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Sinister: B & S PLAY DUBLIN....
by trish delish 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

i hope! ooh, that's just plain naughty, isn't it? in fact, i may just deserve a good spanking (oo-er!) my reason for posting today is to do with the fact that i was out last night, and to the type of place/people that were there. it was in fact the 2nd birthday of dublin's "best" indie club, on thursdays, called screamdelica. what a strange night... i may be 21, and think myself young and not too out of things (spot the wishful thinking!) but i really had my eyes opened last night. since when is hairy back in style?? last night i saw people with the hairiest faces (think sideburns-goatee-tash combo, wouldn't recommend it) and as for the hairdo's themselves....i seem to have entirely missed the resurrection of the mullet, but dublin's cool-as-fuck indie kids are obviously showing the way forward. me and my 3 mates seemed to be the only twee-as-fuck people present, i don't think we went down very well mind you, for all their hair and stylee stuff, they let themselves down on the dancefloor, that's for sure. the music in TBMC can be fairly dodgy, with muso dj's playing the most obscure bsides to the most obscure tracks from the last 10 years, so i am accustomed to some fairly dodgy tunes. but i had to be picked up off the floor when, mid rock out set, the floor went crazy to the sound of.... meatloaf. MEATLOAF??!!! AND THEY LOVED IT!!! a pure rock out moment, and when it finished they screamed out for more. i thought maybe i had wandered through a time/taste warp, but apparently not so, i guess the moral of the story is, just because you have a mullet, doesn't make you cool (though i think i knew that anyway) i'm off to grow my own 80's do, wish me luck! trish delish ps apologies to any members of the list who strive to keep the mullet alive +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: was she scared, was she bored?
by R.Playforth＠sussex.ac.uk 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

well, the internet is bust here and since that's what usually gets me through the day (that and the odd appearance of a gorgeous guy/girl or some erupting row amongst my bosses), i have to post to sinister instead. which is bad in a way because i don't have much content/gossip/smut/scintillating wit to share today. last weekend's shenanigans made me feel young and crazy again, and subsequently i've been pondering the elusive concept of adulthood. i can never seem to get a real handle on 'growing up'. am i grown up now? now? next year? when? sometimes it hits me like a lightning bolt that, yes, this must be it. letting myself into my own flat (well, rented) with my own key, going into my own kitchen and unpacking my own shopping, preparing dinner for my own parents as i did on tuesday - just these minor things can stop me in my tracks - woah, i'm an adult. and it can be a good or a bad feeling. on tuesday i was overwhelmed with a) relief and b) surprise. relief, because i don't have to suffer all the trials of being a teenager any more (and, however unique a teenager you are, some of those trials *are* universally teenage), and surprise because i can't remember at what point i stopped suffering them, and acquired a job, a bank account, a flat, contents insurance, a boyfriend, a credit card, and the ability to use them all appropriately while not having to tell mum what time i'll be home. but then sometimes i don't feel like an adult at all, but like a little girl who gets nervous talking on the phone*, doesn't understand inflation or interest rates or the situation in the middle east, expects a stocking at christmas, and is too scared to try for a proper job where she actually has to take responsibilty. and yet... it's all relative. my sister (aged 20) turned up at my flat that same tuesday night at around 11pm, complaining drunkenly that her friends had called her a 'Loser' for leaving the pub early, accompanied by american-style L-shaped gestures. 'they're so immature', she said, 'i mean, i did this <makes double L-shape with first fingers and thumbs> back to them, obviously, but they still think i'm the sad one.' (no hint of irony.) then: 'does that mean lesbian?' asked my mum. 'well, in MY culture it means Loser', said my sister. the whole thing about different cultures is strange, because my sister is only 3 years younger than me, and yet she identifies herself COMPLETELY differently. just as 17-year-olds have a totally different frame of reference even to her. matt pointed out that in 10 or 20 years time we could be in a pub and overhear adults who don't seem that much younger than us talking nostalgically about pokemon. did i have a point? not really. i wonder if belle & sebastian are a particularly regressive sort of band? i mean, nu-metal is more obviously juvenile, but maybe it's just a different side of the same coin. limp bizkit and offspring glorify the shouty, sulky, toilet humour side of adolescence, whereas b&s give us the tormented, misunderstood, bullied side. do those of us who like b&s (those of us, that is, who AREN'T still teenagers) secretly feel that we haven't properly grown up yet, that we'll never rule the school, that the world is still not made for us? do we feel bullied by real life? are we just scared to grow up, godammit? well, maybe i'm just talking to/for myself here. i should mention other people's posts, but a) i can never remember later what, at the time, made me laugh/sigh/think/well up and b) just thinking about other people's posts makes me feel inadequate. oh, ally cook posted. that was nice. and if i could write half as well as lindsey lou i'd pack in my job right now and write a novel. given the self-referential nature of sinister, does it count as content to refer to other listees? i'm never sure. the lights are on, but there's no-one home. luv archel xxx ps. peter carter asked about brighton photos on the web - as for mine, i haven't developed the film yet and may not get to a scanner for a while anyway. but hopefully others will be more efficient? pps. i am eating frisps. they claim 'it's not a crisp - it's a frisp', but it might as well be a crisp as far as i can see. i mean, 'crisp' covers quite a lot, doesn't it? could they be done for false advertising? * i think i actually have a medical condition. when i have to phone a stranger, whether a publisher or a bookshop or my insurance company, i have to remove layers of clothing to minimise the sweating and write down what i'm going to say beforehand. is this totally weird? ****************** Visit www.buzzwords.ndo.co.uk for the best new writing on the web. 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Sinister: Potatoes
by robin stout 15 Feb '02

15 Feb '02

Hello! While we were waiting at the traffic lights this morning I looked over at the driver of the car beside us and saw that instead of having his hands on the steering wheel he was hitting the wheel with a couple of drumsticks. Either he was getting a bit of practice in before his drum lessons that afternoon or he was driving a drum powered car. Steering wheel - snare drum. Indicators - hi hat! There^Òs an interesting piece on the Matador website http://www.matadorrecords.com/news/index.html about the new album, as well as a hint it might be released in May. Amazon seem to think so too. So, that^Òs Early Spring, then. I^Òve been away for a while, as you might have seen, and I was a bit annoyed not to be able to make it to Brighton, but you see I had to go to my Birthday Party! I thought it would be a bit rude if I didn^Òt turn up for that. Then I went home for a few days to see my family but the only presents ones I got were; 1) A Mr Friendly (http://www.mrfriendly.co.jp ) exercise book from my sister, with the quite honestly disturbing slogan - ^ÓMr Friendly - he steals into your mind to help you to a good situation^Ô. 2) A sack of potatoes, a book on how to grow potatoes, a garden fork and a trowel from my mum and dad so I can ^Ógrow some potatoes^Ô. When I was nine I got a new bike for my birthday, who^Òd have thought it would come to this? And that was it. Oh well. We went to see my grandad too and had the traditional pleasure of watching telly with subtitles. They^Òre really funny sometimes and make even the most boring programmes seem exciting. The news is the best, cos there^Òs someone somewhere typing really quickly to get the words onto the screen in time. So they always miss out the big words and spell lots of thing wrong. For a local news item about an old woman whose house had fallen down an old mine shaft the subtitle was simply; ^ÓIt was me savings!^Ô Hmm. Brake - bass pedal! I^Òm going to spend the weekend buying a new record player, to finally replace the one I accidentally melted in the oven, and digging up the back garden so I can plant my potatoes. There^Òs an alsatian buried in there somewhere. I^Òll have to be careful. Oh my god! Mr Friendly has stolen into my mind!! Robin x _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: American tour dates.
by Richard Gassan 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Hello, all --- I've never posted here before ... and I'm insomniac at the moment, so this should be a good time to ramble about myself, but I'm feeling a bit shy to do so. So, instead, I'll talk about some Very Cool Stuff Indeed. Yes, B&S concerts in America. Bliss, bliss: I have two tickets to the Boston show on May 4th (*one day before my birthday!) ... Ticketmaster lists tickets for sale: (http://www.ticketmaster.com/cgi/artist1.idc?actname=BELLE_AND_SEBASTIAN&Maj…) May 4, Boston, Orpheum Theater May 10, Detroit, State Theater And then there's this band, "Belle and Sabastian," that's playing in Upper Darby, PA: http://www.ticketmaster.com/cgi/artist1.idc?actname=BELLE___SABASTIAN&Major… ... but tickets for that are not on sale yet. Probably because they can't spell the damn thing. Oh, and the tickets I got in Boston last night are in the orchestra section right next to the stage! so I can get up and walk five steps to gaze worshipfully up at Our Heroes. Blissfully (albeit $25+$7.40 "convenience fee" each lighter), Richard. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You can't turn a pig into a racehorse, but you can make a very fast pig...
by ArtsyDeco＠aol.com 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Hello people who have a tendency to be somewhat better than others, I have just rescued baby triplet jelly beans from my bag. How underripe jelly beans made it into my bag, I know not. I am letting them live in my drawer and I have named the Maude, Esther and Paul. I hope no one eats them. I was quite excited by the mention and playing of B&S on Gilmore Girls. I watch it every tuesday with Katie and Jody and they have crappy musical taste. I nearly fell off the bed. Then I felt like a bad fan because I don't have the new single yet. But I'm so very poor. And I have to save money for my trip to England. That's right, I'm coming again. I must seem old hat to the british now. I think it's something like 17 days until I get on the plane... I will get paid for the first time tomorrow after three weeks at my new job. I work in a library now, though unfortunately I cannot truly say that I am a librarian. I only file and shelve, and it's only a law library. Still, leather and cloth bound books make for excellent company, as does the wee portable radio my little frenchwoman of a boss gave to me. She's incredibly nice. I think she misses france. Anyway, they're paying me. It pleases me to know that some of the time I'm getting paid for is spent secretively dancing amidst the bookshelves. That's all really, after all that time of silence from me. Something interesting is bound to happen soon. Kara +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Who's lurking now?? Twice in a week!!
by Stewie-Louie Ratatouille 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

When I got to campus this morning (at the ass crack of dawn I may add) I ran into this guy who apparently works in the office above mine. He wished me a happy Singles Awareness Day. (I have been randomly chuckling about that all day, much to the amusement and bewilderment of my office mates.) The next person I saw wished me a happy Comomdify Your Love-Life Day. I just want to say that I am in full support of this trend of open hostility to manufactured holidays. There, that bit makes this post relevant (it's still St. Val. Day where I am). But ... oh dear... I'm afraid this next bit may be a little dated. And besides, I've already posted once this week. See, I have written it several times since realizing I needed to do it but none of them have come out right. I'll just try it this way. (not so) Recently there was a post about how it is hypocritical for people who have bad jobs to get mad at bands that sell their songs to adverts. I agree with the spirit of this but not the tone or the direction of the anger. For me, music is much more than what someone does for a living (while I am aware that there are people who can do it full time). There are songs that once had great personal significance that have now been given corporate significance (and in my world, the later cancels out the former). But I rarely blame the band for this. Fairly often, I assume, these business decisions are beyond the bands control (particularly true for bands that no longer exist: poor, poor CCR). However, I have no problem raising an eyebrow (and perhaps an angry fist) at record executives and advertising agents (and all the other players) who sustain a system so powerful that it can turn deeply sincere expression into a sales pitch for potato chips. I know that even I become one of those players when I buy the album, or the chips or whatever but don't think I don't look for alternatives and take them when I can. I apologize if that is excessively dramatic or romantic but isn't excessive interest in music - particularly the kind that you can still get close to - the reason we all got together in the first place? Damn, that still seems a bit more aggressive than I wanted. Is it possible to sincerely state a deeply held belief without compromising your twee-ness? I'll leave that up to you all ... I must be off to class. Stewie Louie [Amour Fou is always illegal, whether it's disguised as a marriage or a boyscout troop--always drunk, whether on the wine of its own secretions or the smoke of its own polymorphous virtues. It is not the derangement of the senses but rather their apotheosis--not the result of freedom but rather its precondition. - Hakim Bey] _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A time to mourn, and a time to dance...
by Sillylorna＠aol.com 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

hey everyone. I've just been sitting here with lots of thoughts in my head so thought i'd write them down. ignore all the typos. i'm tired. it's the 14th feb 2002, valentines day. grandmas in hospital at the moment. mum and dad went to see her today and she didn't want any visitors. dad thinks (and i agree) that she wants to go to sleep and wake up in heaven, therefore gets annoyed when she wakes up and is still in hospital. she's like a baby, with her cup always by her side, if not, in her hand. i went to see her day before yesterday. I'm glad i did because she seemed quite content, although she did say she wanted to go to heaven. mum also said that grandma had said she was lookng forward to seeing her wee boy, michael (my brother). and how she can argue with grandad on the way up.. that made her laugh.. lol My poor wee grandma. i just want her to be back to normal. i've always just thought of grandma being there all my life. this obviously isn't to be. mum said tonight that she's going to pass away any day. just really waiting for it now. i look in the fridge and her liver pate, and trifles are there. that makes me smile. i have the flu right now and i feel kinda bad, in comparison to what grandma's going through. you know i missed her at christmas, i'm just glad our family, and me aren't that petty over things like that. she knows i love her, and i know she loves me. what more could i want? christmas is just a day. she's a lovely woman. except when she's nasty.. lol thats down to that thing in her head.. erm.. senaile demenshia, spelt so wrong. they say she takes it out on family first. i feel for mum. it's as if she's trying so hard to get grandma to say something to her, like 'i love you val' but when mum says i love you mum, she just says i love you all. i wish she'd say something for mum. and mum only. she went in on thursday, a week ago today. i was at paul's, then college in the afternoon, i went to get glasses from salmonies and when i got back into the car, dad said ot me, 'you know grandmas in hospital dont you?' i just thought, as did everyone else, that it was just a bug, and she'd get over it. it was an infection, which i think has cleard up but grandmas just ran out of life. i dont like having regrets. i dont belive in them. i think some of my other relatives will have them though, grandma thought the world of them all and she hadn't seen the kids in 3 years. since her 80th birthday party, norma and vic came up for mums 50th though., hey thats something. we've got the video of grandma at the party! thats a funny one. thats got paul in too. like an era in my life. Its scary how much things can change within the space of a week. a few weeks ago i was dodging the house cause grandma was here,. me and paul stayed with each other in dundee, because we wouldn't be able to sleep in the same room if she was here. cause ya know paul sleeps in stevens old room.. *wink wink* but when she got the cold, i didn't mind her being here, i even offered her my telly in her room! i knew something was going ot happen. i remember sitting on her steps outside her house. i couldn't bare it. i thought to myself this was going to be the last time she was in there, with me. i felt something in all the rooms. maybe it was god, watching over her. i'm glad she has faith, something to grasp onto in her time of need. she's more excited to see michael and grandmad than the fear of where she's going., she knows where shes going. to heaven. i feel like going to church and praying for grandma but i'm scared incase all the people come up to me and ask why i'm there. i'll ask paul if he'll go with me on sunday. 'to everything there is a season, a time for purpose under heaven: a time to be born, a time to die... a time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance... a time to gain, and a time to lose...' that's my favourite piece of the bible. I'm not really a religious person. i just belive that there's something there, call it anything you want. whatever you belive in, i also think the bible was stories passed down generations and generations, all exaggerated to give the stories more morals and purpose, a sort of guide to life. which is fine, i'm not saying thats bad. i think it's the best thing ever happened to the world. i have a friend that knows what i'm going through, that helps greatly. her gran passed away. it's good to talk to her, not even about our grans, but about concerts, gossip, just to know that life does move on. and athough her gran has gone. she still has love for her. this is the first sort of mourning i'm ever going to have to go through, well apart from my cat fluffy. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ken put me on the ground with Chu-do
by Rachel fruitloop 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Helloooooooo Sinister! I was going through my mailbox that was bursting at the seams with love notes and Sinister posts and guess what I found? The rest of JANUARY'S POSTS!!!! So, I have picked out my favorite bits to chew up and feed back to you like some doting mother bird! Only the best for you, babies! 'specially Rachel Grapenut and Jason The Cat's PJ's (this one's dedicated to the 2 of you!) I don't think I've mentioned it lately, but that hannah girl really is such an intelligent and witty young thing! On Friday night, I got a message on my mobile phone. It had the comedic stylings of my favorite Sinister dream team on it, and they were *drunk* and giggling. To protect their identity, we'll call one B. Apps. No that's too obvious, Ben A. And Ken C. was speaking in a Scottish accent on his bit. I laughed really hard... it was so funny! It got my weekend off to such a nice start! *****WELCOME***** Welcome to Aruni, and Baker, Baker and Stewie-Louie Ratatouille and Lazy Line David, and Craig Rowson and Chris Mahoney and Steven Rhodes and BusStopper Sara... I know there were more of you who have posted for the first time in the last few weeks!! Welcome to you lot, too! Hello Elsa Chiao! *****GIGS***** So, I suppose Carsmile Steve and Cola Cube Cay had their gigs in Oxford... I hope that it went well for both of you, and that someone (hint hint) tells me more about it! Grainne wrote about the Belfast gig: "I have photos of the gig which will hopefully end up on the web sometime next week, if you're interested." I'm interested! Me! Me! Did you put any pics up yet? Hey... remember when they announced that B&S would go to Sweden and Astrid posted all giddy and excited about it? Awwww, I want to hug her and dance around with her! *****SOME STUFF WE MADE UP***** Michael Grant wrote: "i had the mental image of stuart murdoch sitting on a branch ('Up A Tree', if you will!) with a dictaphone trying to record the birds himself." When I read this, I pictured Crispin Glover up a tree in Back To The Future, spying on Lea Thompson undressing. 'cept our Stu wouldn't do anything as smarmy as that! He's too twee(t), recording birdy chirps instead!! I'm smiley! Robin Stout wrote: "Belle and Sebastian could play Lego instruments and wear Lego hair and Struan could smash up his Lego guitar then put it back together again. They'd all ride onto the stage in a big Lego car, playing I Love my mecCarno I love my meccano I love my lego my technic and my duplo I could even find it in my heart to love K'Nex" This one made me laugh out loud at my desk!! SO CLEVER! I want a Belle & Seb Lego playset! And a Lego jet to take them to their Lego tourbus and a Lego boat for Isobel! And MailBen wrote:"Lego gives us well established boundaries to our imagination, but real dreamers use fuzzy felt (with scissors if anarchy is your bag)!" This one just reminds me of my favorite pick up line!! heh! Mark C. rewrote the lyrics to "Creeque Alley" to fit Belle & Seb, and it was sooooooooo fuckin' cute (that's right Mark, I'm swearing just for you!) Alan Whyte wrote a tale of Aunt Sadie's day out and worked in a whole bunch of people's nicknames from Sinister!!! So clever! I got all excited when I read "fruitloop"! Yay! And then, Mark C, Lord of SMUT wrote: "Hannah, use your polaroid to take pictures of fucking. That's what they're for, you know." I think i am going to move to london and live with hannah, she seems like so much fun! Liz Daplyn wrote: "A tip for lads: when a girl discusses her hair with you, she either likes the way you use your walk or thinks you�re gay, or frequently both in my case, which is yet one more reason it�s difficult to find boyfriends." *ahem* I am guilty of discussing my hair with boys for both reasons frequently, well, in the past, anyway. Now it would just be for reason number two. Matt Henderson wrote: "There hasn't been any talk about haircuts of recent." Not that I think you're all gay, but my hair is looking GOOD lately! I'm sad to report, Ken, that I no longer have a "red bowl" haircut, but a nifty purple and black bowl haircut (Laura Llew might be pleased to know that the style is referred to as an "Isadora"). But I am happy to report that I love my hair! See, for those of you who may not know/don't care and have forgotten, I work at a professional haircare product company and therefore am practically a professional guinnea pig (dare I say it, the perfect profession for me!) Sophia Katrina wrote: "I'm fundamentally a lazy perfectionist. Can other lazy-no-more perfectionists share the solution to this problem?" My solution comes via procrastination and then "binge working" and the results are usually good, plus you get to enjoy the "frenzy" of it all! I like to work on projects throughout the night and revel in the thoughts that just magically appear in my mind like "hannah really does rule the school!" but that could just be the sleep deprivation talking! Speaking of sleep, Robyn Fadden wrote: "anyone who has ever had a proper duvet cannot go back to 'blankets' and 'comforters' or 'sleeping bags opened up in imitation of a blanket'. i implore you: duvet today." I agree. They are the best thing since sliced bed! ****LOVE AND UNLIKE AND UNLIKELY LOVE***** David Stankin' Cooter wrote: "I�ve been back home for a little over a week, with loads of things to talk about for once, and found myself quite lost for words, and for the first time with you lot worrying that I�ll say too much." I am *SO* happy that your trip was fun and that you shared your story with us! I felt that same overwhelming feeling after Ben Apps came to stay. It seemed like anything I would say about it would be too much to too little and so it left me quite speechless! I think Kirsten Kenyon might have experienced it a bit herself after her trip, although she claims that it isn't coyness, it's discretion. I have no discretion, however, so I quite like it when I can read other people's tales of travels and/or love. LindseyLou wrote: "i realized that people are just people, and we meet and pass. and if we are lucky, we catch the hands of a few passers-by for a while, and hang on long enough to realize that we don't need the hands to hold us up." Woah, that is so true and so beautiful, I thought I'd just post it again here for y'all to read! I think... I meet certain people in my life that I just *know* will be in it forever. Like my best friend Vicky. Or my best friend Annie. I didn't talk to Annie for 3 years and then one day I went to see her at work and it was like we'd never been apart. And Ben definitely fits into that category, too. And then there are the middle people that I know will be important in my life but how long they sustain that role is questionable, for varying reasons, such as coworkers or people I know through other friends. Or some boys. Because things have a way of getting too screwed up with all of that sexual attraction and behavior to surpass the bounds of here and now. Kyla wrote a beautiful post about being mystified by her grandfather or great uncle's (sorry I can't remember specifically!) stories and way of life: "how do you say please tell me every story you have about being a cowboy cinematographer." Ohhhh, that was such a lovely post!! It reminded me of talking to my Great Grandmother Leona about thngs she used to do in the '20's (cos I'm obsessed by "Flappers" you know!) and I wish that I had been a bit older before she died (I was 13 or 14) so I could have really asked all of the questions that I have about that era now. I think it is so wonderful that you appreciate the stories that your cowboy cinematographer has to share with you, and the story of hearing his stories made a grate post! Robyn Fadden wrote: "it's a sad love, kyla's. like when you fall in love with a character in a book. and you dream about them and generally walk around in a daze for a while until you realize the futility of it all. but for some awful reason you still want to read the book again and again." The first book I remember reading and feeling that way about was when I was about 8 or so... the book was 'The Great Brain'. Anyone remember that one? Baker, Baker wrote: "i'm really happiest when i'm alone with your love letters, you see -- i love the torn spiral edge of the paper and your handwriting on the blue and pink lines. i love how the letters smell as they get old in my drawer. i think, too, that i would love being alone with your body and your voice... the torn edges of your syllables, the blue and pink veins running beneath the skin of your arms and your neck. it's when i'm actually around you -- around any people at all -- and you or those people are not allowing me to be alone... i'm too hungry for your like and your love." This post was another one that *killed* me! It's too beautiful! How perfectly that describes being in love WITH LOVE more than being in love. I think that love is a weird thing. I honestly believe that people don't find love until they are in a place in their life that allows room for it. You kitties know how messed up I've been and how I've struggled on the medication, etc. but somewhere along the line I got better and stopped seeing every failed attempt in love as being due to the fact that I'm fat or ugly or weird. As soon as I felt better about myself then I didn't crave love as much and I guess I must seem more loveable now. I even got a Valentine in the mail from a very special Sinister girl! (You know who you are! Kisses to you! And watch your mailbox!) Amy Rachel Applejacks Longcore wrote: "Anywhere you go, even yr own bedroom, you've got a lot to live up to. Take all the good and wrap it up and hold it,just keep the bad past arm length. That's my cryptic way of telling some of you to keep a chin up." I second that emotion! It's sooooo amazing how positive thinking will improve things (this coming from the most pessimistic person I know--myself!) I hope things are going better for you now, Marianna! Matt Henderson wrote: "I have nothing to think about, nothing to fight for, nothing cry about, nothing to pine for. I just feel empty. This must be the worst kind of depression. Not even music can pull me out of this." yuck. This is familiar to me, Matt. I didn't listen to music for a good 8 months. I felt flat and empty, too. I was afraid that if I listened to music in the state that I was in, it would just drive that thrill I used to feel whilst listening further and further down until I would never be able to even REMEMBER what it felt like to shiver when I heard a certain part of a particular song. That sort of depression is the worst because even hate is a form of passion but when you just don't care there is nothing. I guess this happens to people sometimes because of a gap. I see life as being a series of scenes in a movie and maybe the union rules say that your crew has to take a break now, or something along those lines... I hope things pick up for you soon, though. Will Salt wrote: "If I get drunk and start referring to myself as a girl, that's because that's what's written in my brain somewhere. Don't take photographs, because I don't look like this on the inside." That got me thinking about what it would be like to feel like a boy... and how hard it would be to feel alright if your outside appearance didn't match who you are inside. It made me love Will's post even more because, sheesh, I freak out if I have a spot or a bad hair day and people try to take my picture but what if every day was a bad gender day? That's got to be tough! *****WAKING UP TO US***** Sara BusStopper wrote: "reading the posts is like looking at someone's eyes." I would have to agree, on most levels. Because a lot of posts include words that may remain unspoken, but if you were to look in a person's eyes, you sometimes could see what they feel... Danny the cutiepie Farrell wrote: "everyone should go,everyone on the whole planet.well planet sinister anyway.sometimes i wished i lived on planet sinister,but then i remember.i don't." I think that I live on planet Sinister most of the time... well, "am I playing in your movie? you're in my magazine..." Kieran wrote: "Sinister is becoming a kind of tawdry autobiography for me at the moment." and he wrote a story about working at a newspaper and taking a call about a story that he never wrote up or tried to get in the paper. I liked the story. It revealed something about Kieran that I can really identify with regarding my job. At the end of the day, it's just shampoo bottles, you know. This was a brilliant post, though. But then, I always love Kieran's posts. Dimitra wrote 4 giant diary posts about her travels that were amazing! Here's one of my favorite bits: "part of what Sinister is to me is taking a train to a city, meeting someone you haven't met before and spending the day with them -almost all the days end in pubs somehow! And I am each time a little surprised of how I can have a good time with all those different people, who I haven't even met before. And how it is really more than just having a good time, how each of these days has something great in it. And what is the glue that binds us. Whatever makes us so gosh-darned compatible, as Stacey said once." I have noticed this as well, although I have only met a handful of you! BUT... I will be in London with Mr. Ben Apps around March 14th - 23 so I expect you kitties to meet up with me!!! The Feather Boa wrote: "i met a lot of people in the summer, so it's kind of weird, because sinister changes when you *actually* know people who are on it, instead of just knowing them via email, it is really weird, knowing people off sinister...." Hmmm, I can see what you mean FB. But I guess my experience is a bit different because I met people off of Sinister pretty much right when I joined. And the people who have met me can tell you that I am a fairly good likeness of myself in my posts: what you read is what you get! Zoe wrote: "Dimitra's post made me think of how being in Sinister it's all about who you know, like in real life. It is real life I suppose. I think I will regret writing all this but hey, you won't notice will you?" and she also said that she had started to write about the elitist nature of Sinister... Zoe also said "i was really sad and i didn't want to hurt anybody ..just ignore it..." I can't ignore this Zoe, it really made me sad when I read it. I think because I don't know what it's like to be far away from everyone, I can't really say I understand. There are a lot of Sinister people in L.A., but I don't meet up with them all that often, although we could (like walking to Sara's house for some "exercise!" hee!) I like seeing everyone in person. But there is something about reading what everyone writes that I LOVE more than meeting up. I like the romanticism of the written word. I read every single post, you know. I feel a real connection with all of you. I understand that so many of us are living paycheck to paycheck or are too young to travel. But I have to say that making a sacrifice to follow Suede across America *twice* between the ages of 19-22 was the best thing I have ever done and probably will ever do. I met a lot of my pen pals on those trips and saw SO many things, including the humanity behind this band that I worshipped so intensely, and it changed everything. I used to hear all the time "you're so lucky" and I'll tell you, it had nothing to do with luck. I wanted the adventure and it was scary and difficult and risky as hell, but I was so focused and driven to get out there and live the dream that I wasn't going to let anything stop me. So, my point is, if you want to travel, try to make a plan. Sacrifice. Do it. If this town's your sinking ship, then you know where to jump. A public service announcement brought to you by Rachel fruitloop and B&S! Miss Maple wrote about her pot-head knomes and said this: "anyways, i figure no one reads my emails cus u know...well if i was u i'd delete them." The knome thing made me laugh soooo hard! I want some knomes for my front yard!! I think your post was grate and I'm glad I read it! Then Jeff Arrived and wrote: "I also often think that no one reads my emails. but i know for a fact that at least one person on this list reads them (and she rocks the hiz-house). and that's good enough for me." YEAH! I don't know who you meant, Jeffy, but if you post it, I'll read it, too!! I'm not fibbing when I say I read every single one! Melmoz wrote: "Just want to announce that there will be a Sinister Round-Up in Texas coming up very soon!!!!!" YAY!!! And Belle & Sebastian are playing in AUSTIN!!!!! Austin is such a *grate* town!!! We're having a LOS ANGELES MEETUP on Saturday February 23rd!! E-mail me for more info! *****RACHELISMS***** Ken Chu wrote: ""BEN APPS ARE YOU SURE YOU BE AWAKE AT 8AM TOMORROW FOR BREAKFAST?" and receiving an affirmative reply, therefore after seeing Mr Tweedle (pronounced Twed-dle) off to work I phoned up Apps Ben (Mr. B) a few times and to my surprise there was no replies." HAHAHAHAH! I have converted Ben over to my ways of sleeping in! And Although I am a LAZY HORRIBLE girlfriend, just for the record, Ben will receive his Valentine presents in about 4 days! Oh, the public humiliation! Cola Cube Cay wrote: "After Mr. "I'm a supervisor at work now and therefore older and wiser (no honest) than you two wee scallywags and so I'm not going to sit around and get drunk but go home and read a training manual instead" Apps returned to his little palace known as "The Bappsy Trotwood" (Thank you Ken Chu!)me and Hatchback sat around drinking yummy Tia Maria, listening to John Peel and forming out own little theory about life and Sinister." I have a secret: Ben didn't go home and read his training manual, he went home and talked to me on the phone for several hours instead! And that Ken Chu sure is clever!! I am anxious to hear your theory on life and Sinister, Ms. Cola Cube and Mr. Dancin' Hatchback! Stine signed a post like this: "rachel ~stine **im not really a rachel of course, but i sometimes feel as though i am the only non-rachel on the list :o) ta" Awwww, Stine! You can be an honourary Rachel, too! Perhaps Stine "Rachel Doughnut" or "Rachel Sausage" would be a good name for ya! Stewie Louie wrote: "I guess I should have expected this as the one thing we all have in common is a band with not one but two Stuarts (though I don't think they spell it right). Does this ever happen to people called Rachel?" Yeah, I always think people are talking about me, though. I'm so vain, I'll bet I think this post is about me! I almost thought that Max loved me when he posted "I love you Rachel", and even though he meant Grapenut, I still got a little thrill from seeing it in writing! That's why the breakfast nicknames are helpful. I figure, the more honourary and real Rachels, the better! You know, I never really knew many other Rachels before... it's funny that there are so many of us on Sinister! And Stewie, I'll bet you have "arms of sex" just like Mr. Murdoch does! Well, I think I have dug up enough stuff from the Sinister past for now. Sorry for talking about mesself so much!! I hope you all have/ had a good VD and remember that I, for one, love you all! (extra hugs and kisses for Benny Apps!) love, Rachel (the fruity looper) *****FAVORITE QUOTES***** "Ahoy there landlubbers"--Carsmile Steve "My heroine doesn't need a 21st century prince, she only needs her guitar. And her record player."--Idleberry "sometimes it's just as difficult being in love as falling in it in the first place."--Archel Toast "sometimes i wish i could stop caring but i'm too caring to stop."--Danny Farrell "i don't mind fear... what i cannot forgive is cowardness..."--Velocity Girl "don't forget the victory dance"--Paisley Tie "I heart symbol Gneissy."--Dirty Vicar "I don't, like, think: everything is about me. I don't. but that I DO kinda think: why ISN'T IT? y'know."--Richard Gillanders "Enough of this tomfoolery, i think i'm going to puke"--Teeny Tiny Hannah Brown __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! 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by dafyd strange 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

Hello there, This is my first post in blinkin ages so excuse me if its bad.I've been out of the sinister circle for too long lately & am trying my best to get back in so i think this is a pretty decent start,ummm posting. I've finally got some direction back to my life,nooo not by rejoining sinister even though thats pretty good too,im going back to college in september to study,im doing journalism or was that to do journalist i forget now but it should be a whole lot of hard work and the rest. But its what i've allways wanted to do so im chasing my dream,im going to be sinister's very own peter parker type reporter,except i cant climb buildings but im working on it honest.This is turning out to be a very long boring and unromatic post especially on V.day,i never even got a card which doesnt really bother me anymore,well it does but im being mature & not showing it. *mwah* Daf xx P.s thanks to Ms H.Brown for making me post again,im sorry if it was an anticlimax. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: More confirmed Belle & Sebastian USA and Canada dates ...
by * carla * 14 Feb '02

14 Feb '02

oh i am so excited b&s are comign to new york! one question tho - i bought tix on an internet pre-sale for another concert recently and you needed a password. is there a password for the b&s one?? anyone know? the ny listing isnt coming up on ticketmaster.. carla >From: "Katrina House" <shop(a)banchory.net> >Reply-To: "Katrina House" <shop(a)banchory.net> >To: "sinister" <sinister(a)missprint.org> >Subject: Sinister: More confirmed Belle & Sebastian USA and Canada dates >... >Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:06:22 -0000 > >... are online NOW at http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home > >cheers, >katrina. > >banchory >press - management - merchandising >po box 25074 glasgow g2 6ld scotland >email: shop(a)banchory.net > >http://www.banchory.net >http://www.belleandsebastian.co.uk/home > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister > +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ > +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ > +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ > +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ > +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ > +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ > +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ >+-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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