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Sinister: Belfast Live
by Neil Robertson 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

Yes, the Belfast show is on the radio. No, it's not tonight. It's next Monday, despite what it says in the papers and the BBC website. Sorry about the conflicting information. Their mistake. Nobody could take their mouths off So Solid Crew's knob for long enough to tell us it had been moved. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ken that mean that I'm getting boring? Chu tell me...
by Rachel fruitloop 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

HELLOOOOOO SINISTER!!!!! Since so many of you kind lovely people out there have said some nice things to me personally, or posted nice things, I thought it was high time that I write one of my MEGA-POSTS! The first for 2002! Yay! *****CEREAL KILLERS***** Assman Walton wrote: "Ms Fruitloop's been quite quiet of late - I suppose she's got the boy Apps to deal with, but still, one of her huge recollective-post efforts wouldn't go amiss at chilly times as these." this post is especially for you, Stud Muffin. And also for Chris Pez who wrote: "whoever said that rachel frootloop hadn't posted a huge summary post for ages was right, she must have accumulated enough now. rachel, post again, i need to increase my 'i've been mentioned in a frootloop post' score. its at 4 at the moment and i'm sure others have more. ben apps must be in double figures by now." CHRIS PEZ, You are grate!!! hmmm... I dunno that I have mentioned Benny all too much before my last couple of posts. It's hard to remember! All I know is that I *talk* about him ALL THE TIME! But in any case, there's 2 mentions for you right there, just from quoting other people's posts! And there are more mentions of sweet Apps to come! Rachel Grapenut wrote: "I am so very happy for Rachel Fruitloop and Ben. Isn't everyone, though? Please feel free to be as candy-coated as you want to, rachel, it cheers me up." Thank you Rachel! Although I am not sure everyone is happy about this. Unfortunately, since my Reporting Back, Laura Llew has deemed me a traitor for being lured to "the dark side" and has threatened to kick my arse if ever I refer to Ben as "Sweetie" in public. Fortunately, Miss Llew can save her plane fare because that won't EVER happen. (I call him "Bunny" not "Sweetie.") Archel Toast, I hope your move went smoothly. I also hope I provided enough commentary on my version of the Sinister transatlantic shenanigans! *****WELCOME!!!***** I would like to say welcome to Becky Wright. And welcome back to Bre. And welcome to Toy Stephen, I am honored to be mentioned in your first post, especially in the same sentence as the Dirty Vicar! And welcome to Andrew Barton--your story of discovering B&S was lovely! AND welcome to Eliza Grae... I'll take cake over death any day! *****BIRTHDAYS!!!***** Happy belated birthday to Matt Henderson! Sorry about your Clash record getting broken! Happy Belated Birthday also to our Bond Girl, Ola. Happy Belated Birthday to Belle the year old dog, and also a Happy Belated Birthday to Kara Jean! *****U-B ILLIN'***** I hope that you are feeling better now, JenOwl. Also Ken, Pamela and Kirsten, I hope that you are well now, too. *****GENDER***** Astrid announced that she is in fact a girl. Stine also announced that she is in fact of the female gender. *****ASTRID***** I like Astrid's posts because she would have been my best friend if I were ten years younger and lived in her town. You can tell she's something special just in the way that she expresses herself. And I remember the first time I realized that I had gained weight and I had previously been "the girl who can eat anything" and I think I was around 18 or so... Astrid makes me feel like I am really young again, and in the best possible way. Astrid said that she is no longer smitten with a 13 year old boy. Also, she gets "super cool" points for mentioning Pippi Longstocking whilst being Swedish. *****STACEY DAHLING***** Stacey Dahling wrote: "We actually thought we had lost Coral and the sheep - how this is possible I do not know - when we saw a little sheep head pop out from behind a kiosk and look in our direction. I almost peed my pants." I went to the photo link to see this sheep myself and it looked like a very good time! I think that is something that my friends and I would definitely do. And actually, it reminded me of a story in Marilyn Manson's autobiography about he and his girlfriend going around his hometown in Florida around Christmastime and replacing the baby Jesuses in people's nativity scenes with hams. and now I am using the Jedi mind trick to make you all forget that I just mentioned Marilyn Manson's autobiography! eeek! Stacey Dahling also wrote about a club called Kitcherella: "Then the lights dimmed and three screens came down from the ceiling and the opening of Dynasty was projected. Lordy. Everyone hooted and screamed in glee." No fair! I wanna go to this club!! Why can't I hang out in Greece with you guys!? *****NEW YEARS***** Needless to say, I was highly amused by Stacey Dahling's ghetto holiday in Greece with miss Velocity Girl. I also liked the idea of Stacey sitting in her black knickers and racy black bra with black and white striped socks and Florence Henderson hair on New Year's Eve. I tried to picture what I was doing while she wrote that post. Stacey Dahling also wrote: "I took note of everyone�s chosen way to herald in the new year as if they were deciding how they wanted to die. Wow, Coral wanted to go out in a strip club. Seemed apt. Me, I just wanted to make sure I wasn�t alone. Many others decided to spend it in bed." Me, I suppose I want to die with all of my closest friends. Completely drunk and in the beautiful arms of Ben Apps. *sigh* Will Salt wrote: "Tonight I am going to go out, and tomorrow I am going to rest. The day after, I want to go out and buy a notebook, so I can start writing things down. If I start writing things down, I will get better at putting things into words. If I start putting things into words, I might be able to explain things a little better. If I can do that, I will be able to do anything. Maybe even have plaited hair in public a bit more often." Yes, Will, you should have plaited hair in public more often! And writing is grate. I don't write in my journal very often. Just when exciting things happen or if I'm in distress. I was looking over what I wrote last year and I can see how much my life has improved and how many of my goals I've met and that makes me happy. Maybe it will make you happy, too. Madeliene had the best year ever and has resolved to get pissed and eat toast this year. Becky Wright's new years resoulution is to learn more constellations by sight: "I also look up at the night sky a lot nowadays but that's just to find the seven sisters which is the only constellation I can recognise." Becky, I think that is the most romantic constellation ever. I like the name "seven sisters" because it makes me think of being in London and it makes me think of the song "By The Sea" by Suede. Andy Williams wrote: "I got a dart board, and it is now my new years resolution to score 180 in open play, hopefully against Matt Powell. My other resolutions are to have a song I write played on the radio, continue to stop smoking and write two books (one fiction, one non-fiction)." Wow, you are ambitious Andrew! I wish you luck! (darts is a hard game!) Andrew also transcribed this from Stuart Murdoch: "I resolve to become immortal. And then die." Big Stu wrote: "I made two New Year's Resolutions. The first was to do 50 sit-ups every day to get rid of the effects of the Christmas alcohol, which has a tendency to turn your six-pack into a keg. This resolution lasted, erm, about 0 minutes,since I haven't done a single sit-up yet. The second resolution was to travel to Guatemala, Belize and Honduras in May / June. Which should be a bit easier to stick to." I'd rather travel than excercise any day. Unfortunately, I made the resolution to lose weight, too. How cliche, eh? Rich.Gil. wrote: "I don't remember so much more. alasdair trying to make me dance. kirsten trying to make me dance. ken trying to make me dance. me not dancing. at twelve o'clock. I KISSED THEM ALL. I don't think I missed anyone out. if I did, I apologise. or. you were too quick." Awww, what a lovable huggable snuggable cuddleable glow worm you are, Rich! Now Ken can't complain about not getting kissed! Cola Cube Cay wrote: "And there my dears lies the crux of my New Year's Resolution. To be a happier Miss Cola-Cube. I may fall down at times, but I'll keep dancing." That's a good resolution Cay! I think that we all should dance more this year. It will cure what ails anyone (except if your problem is that you're missing legs; even then you can roll around on the dance floor. Either ON the floor itself or in a wheelchair on the dance floor--your choice!) *****IAN***** Ian posted a story which in it's bizarre darkness, I found it to be brilliant. It reminded me of a dream I had on Tuesday night that the sky was full of teeny-tiny 6 week old orange baby kittens in parachutes. Also my dream from Wednesday night that an A-Bomb was dropped. I'm not really questioning why I dreamed these things, but why I *remembered* that I dreamed these things. And then Ian wrote a grate story about Saint Peter and the heavenly gates, prefaced by this: "zac foley, bass player with emf, died yesterday. the cause of his death has not been released, and it seems to have been more-or-less ignored by the News. i'm afraid this is another obituary. the man deserves one for oh-so-many reasons" I hadn't heard of his death at all, just what Ian posted. My friend Vicky LOVED emf. Oddly enough, so did my mother. They are saddened by his passing. But the smarmy follow-up tale of Saint Peter coming round to look at porn websites and running off to find the perfect Isobel Campbell was really entertaining, and I could hardly wait for the next installment! And then Saint Peter himself posted to this blessed list and I laughed so hard I nearly fell out of my chair! And your suggestion that Saint Peter disguise himself as a Hello Kitty pencil case impressed me. That is, I WOULD be impressed if he were trying to "woo" me! The lyrics to "the Armageddon" that Ian posted were most clever. It hit on a lot of my beliefs about the war. Well done, Ian! *****DVD/VCD***** So Neil Robertson revealed that there is a B&S VCD in the works and added: "There are other TV things you haven't mentioned, but I'm not going to mention them because if we don't use them I'll end up getting chinned about it." Oh no! Now we're all going to wonder what *could have* been on it! Why why why must you torure us like this, Neil!!! Lawrence Mikkelsen wrote: "A few days ago I got a copy of Suede's "Lost in TV" DVD. It's great, for a number of reasons." Ohhhh, another mention of Suede in this post. My old threads are showing! I am excited about this dvd because I used to live and breathe and stalk Suede. I am wondering if they used any live footage from their tour of America in 1997 that I shot with Simon the drummer's video camera. That would be pretty cool. But I haven't seen the dvd yet! :( Is there much live footage, Lawrence? *****SINISTER MINCE MEET***** Melmoz should wrangle up whoever she can for a Sinister meetup in the Dallas area... from what I remember in my Suede stalking days there was quite an anglophile crowd out that way and I wonder if it's still like that. Crap! I mentioned Suede again! Sorry! Archel Toast wrote: "yesterday i foisted the idea of a brighton meet-up on the folks at #sinister, promising sex (well, SSX snowboarding on the playstation 2),drugs (well, alcohol), and rock and roll (well, DDR). what i'll do now is keep mentioning it here until you all think it's as inevitable as death and taxes and can't remember a time when you weren't going to come to brighton on <actually i haven't picked a date yet>." I think you all should meet up whenever Archel says because she's lovely and she will show you a good time!!!! Joe "Rachel Pancake" Vester wrote: "I also wondered if the sinister world would like to take part in a sunflower growing competition." I'm up for it, that sounds like a good idea. But of course my plants usually die. But maybe this won't end in disaster! :) Danny my little cutie pie Farrell wrote: "i met the adorable kirsten marie kenyon who it seemed was just as much the fun queen in the flesh as she is on our very own wee sinister,although this was only from five minutes as the poor wee soul was shattered from travelling et al. she gave me saltine crackers from someone,not someone random,someone in particular.my baker.bakers usually make bread not crackers,this baker is special." Awwwwwww! I wanna meet Kirsten! I am happy that she got to meet so many of you kids in her travels. And I am glad you got your special crackers, cutie pie! Madeleine wrote: "Laura, I hope you realise this means I am forced to kidnap you, drive you to the Mexican border and marry you. Neither of us have any choice in the matter, I'm afraid." Where should we send the wedding pressies!? *****MAKING IT***** Rob Lorenson made Lame-o trade stickers and I think I may want to get my hands on some! He said: "Note: Lame-o does not necessarily mean crappy. Well, maybe a little bit. OK, most of the time, lame-o means crappy. But, maybe not in this case." Archel Toast wrote: "i begin to think that if you're passionate about music, the last thing you should do is write about it, because you will inevitably disappear up your own arse before you can say 'i hate starsailor, me'." I think it might be that way in any creative field. I'm finding that if I get too comfortable in any job, that's sort of the way my designing goes, too! Lord knows I haven't painted anything decent in a couple of years, but I can design a nifty magazine ad for shampoo! sheesh! *****REALITY CHECK***** Rachel Sunnyside-up wrote: "Accidentally sitting on the same ferry as a band is good too. Watching people, who write the songs that have sort of become my own, do normal things, made me happy. At the same time it could have made me a little sad. Feeling guilty that was too much of an intrusion, knowing that songs don't really belong to me. A reality check." But don't forget Rachel, Stuart said "every song I ever wrote was written for you..." and as long as they make their albums available to us for purchasing, I firmly believe he's singing to every single one of us! What a happy thought! Amy "Rachel Applejacks" wrote about her brother Dan who is autistic: "he's never had a friend. never been kissed." and it sounds to me, Amy, that he has a friend in you. That is something special. Jules Markham wrote: "I know I should be helpful and honest, but I feel like a freakshow. Just laid open and bare to be picked over by people who mean well but curiosity makes them rude. Still, I encourage the questions, more open-mindedness, and please dont burn me." My mother went through that for a long time when she first began telling her friends and family that she is Wiccan, but after a while her closest circle accepted it as if she were always a witch and the rest of the population usually don't need to know that she's a witch and so she started feeling less like a freakshow and more at peace with her own traditions and ceremonies. I hope that people don't give you too much trouble about your beliefs. Gordon wrote: "I find it magnificent to be upset and for life to take one by surprise... " That's inspiring. I never look at things that way. I like to feel that everything is under control and even. But maybe life WOULD be more magnificent with more upsets and surprises. That idea scares me, though. Kieran Devaney wrote: "at which point does experience lose its lustre twixt mind and paper, between keyboard and computer screen? will anything i tell you register in the way i want it? " That's a good question. I find it hard to write things down on paper now. Even when I want to write poetry, I find it easier to compose on a computer screen and the only time I really write things on paper is when I write retarded things to Ben. And beyond that, so much about conveying an idea is in the mind of the reader, not so much in what you write. It helps if you are a descriptive writer, but so much of what you describe could be perceived in such a different manner. Besides that, it's hard to write about feelings and why an incident strikes you the way that it does. Who will ever get inside every fold of your brain tissue? Will you ever really know all of the inner workings of your own mind? *****LOVIN'***** Danny Farrell wrote: "i have never known anyone to be quite like her and she is unique in ways that can bring me to tears.so i'm scared in case there is a repeat performance of my whole life." That's part of the risk you take in loving, I think. I bet we are all scared that we will be hurt in the same ways that we were once hurt before. Sometimes you just have to throw caution to the wind and go for it. Kara Jean wrote: "I like the Rachel Fruitloop and Ben story because it reminds me of Peter and I. It will be our one year anniversary very soon. Throughout this year I have missed him alot, bawled like a baby when we've had to part, sometimes bawled just because I miss him so much, but I remind myself that he loves me and it's better. So Rachel, March, or whichever month you have to wait for, does come even when it seems it won't." I never would have thought in a million years that I would be involved in something that could possibly rival the "Peter & Kara" love story. Congratulations on your year anniversary! That is very sweet! I hope you're right about March coming even when it seems that it won't. Elise J. Spry wrote: "So those of you who know me as somewhat of a wanton vibrator-happy, party girl sex goddess will be either pleased or disappointed to hear that I've officially Settled Down. The purple buzzy thing has been put away in my bottom drawer (NOT the bottom of my drawers), and James G and I have set up house." Whoo-hoo Lisey and Jimmy G! I am SO HAPPY for you! (where's my picture? And thanks for the pressie--I LOVE IT!) Ben Apps wrote: "I think she's waiting till I'm outta here to tell you all what a dumb, lame slacker I am. " You guys, now that he's really gone, I have to tell you what a dumb, lame slacker Ben Apps is. He is so dumb that he gets all of my jokes and he's so lame that he wants me to be his girl and such a slacker that he came all the way to California to be with me! Sooner or later we will melt together and draw rings around the world... Ken Chu wrote: "I got out a copy of Street Fighter II the other day just to check again - and yes, Ken and Ryu still say "Adore Ken" when they shoot out fireballs.. maybe I just love myself too much. Can you blame me though?" No, I can't blame you Ken. I think when Laura Llew comes over here to kick my arse (which I'm sure she's about to do if she's read this post!), we're going to be yelling "Adore Ken" as we shoot fireballs at eachother! Pamela wrote: "Lovebites: good or bad? Discuss...." hmmm. bad. they're ugly purple marks. but good. I *so* love to have my neck nibbled! *****INTERNATIONAL BOWLING***** Carsmile Steve wrote: "KEN is the london bowling champion, despite having been run a close second by BEN apps, who actually took the first game by a whisker. " yeah, the modest Ken, you sure took long enough to declare yourself champion! Thanks for clarifying that, Carsmile! Robin Stout wrote: "The Kidderminster Sinister Bowling Extravaganza was a cracking success. Actually, it was only me who went. And I didn't go bowling; I went to a pub and ate a pie." I think you should get a prize just for being so hilarious! Jenn PB wrote: "encoded message: SGSYOUARETHEBEST! and also a pleasant hello to Ms. Edna Welthorpe. I think I owe you a drink." I am happy to hear that you all had so much fun! And whenever I read about Mrs. Edna Welthorpe it makes me 'Prick Up My Ears'! *****A FFAIR***** Robster wrote: "Anyway, if you live in America and you've been to/in a parade/county fair/monster truck rally - email me and tell me about it so I can have some vicarious experiences to match the images. Mmmm..." It's not so great to be in a parade actually. I used to be in marching band in high school (she banged the drums!) and it was usually a living hell because of the outfits-- my high school mascot was the Highlander and so the drumline wore kilts and I usually had to march in the competition portion of the parade which entailed changing my costume out on the street into the polyester trouser outfit and big furry hat and it was always *hot* and awkward and I HATED it and little kids would throw stuff at us and try to hit our drums and during the competition portion, you couldn't break formation so if a pile of horse shit was in your way, you had to just step in it! Ecchhh! Not to mention the blisters and heat stroke! *****SASSY LASSIES***** Dirty Vicar wrote: "I've been listening to Kate Bush's first album "The Kick Inside" a lot lately. It's a big bag of fun. We always do expressive dances to the opening bars of the first track, which shows how artistic we are. Does anyone know what other Kate Bush albums are worth listening to?" OOOH, I LOVE KATE BUSH! I can just imagine the dances you must do! "The Kick Inside" is my favorite, I used to think that she was my mom on the cover of that album, because my mom looked very much like that in 1977. I can play an acoustic version of "Moving", but not very well. Other grate Kate Bush albums are 'The Dreaming' and 'Hounds of Love'... Go get them NOW!! Alyson wrote: "by the way, i've finished the quiz, and my music muse is... fiona apple?" Ok, I have to admit... I like her. I have the album 'When The Pawn' and I like listening to it during spring rainstorms. It just *happened* I couldn't help it! *****POETRY & PURRING***** Pamela wrote of needing a name for her stray cat... I love the name Agent Cooper for a cat because I also have a *wee* obsession with Twin Peaks. In fact, my brother Tony and his wife Tiffany have a cat named Diane after Agent Cooper's "Secretary" tape recorder he's always speaking memos into! So your stray could have his counterpart all the way here in Canoga Park, CA! Awwww, how cute! I hope your kitty is ok! Johnny Shred then enlightened us with a T.S. Eliot poem about cat's names which was grate! Archel posted a very timely poem by Raymond Carver... about fear. *****STUART'S CAR***** Michelle Ruiz wrote: "I also think Struan has NASCAR aspirations with his driving gloves. I'd like to see that racing car. It'd probably be painted plaid with sponsorship from Fruit of the Loom t-shirts." Yeah, but I'd love to see it with *Fruit of the Loop* sponsorship! ;) Ken Chu wrote: "Stuart Murdoch's car: so is he a boy racer then? Does he have twin exhaust pipes (with a hole drilled in for extra noise) and big fuckoff spoilers and air vents on the bonnet cover and a "go-faster" strip and under chassis neon lighting and a big KENWOOD sticker at the back window? Does he pump out "I love my car" through his KENWOOD speakers? or does he have a special DRUM n BASS version for his car?" KEN!!!!! I was lauging already when I got to the part about "fuckoff spoilers" and then you just had to go even further by making me picture the window sticker and the drum n bass version of "I Love My Car"! Damn! My stomach is going to burst!!! *****!VIVA RACHELS!***** The Mixtape battle continues! The last I heard, the tape was in the hands of Caleb Ben AKA RAW, and where has Mr. Caleb Ben been lately anyway? I miss him! The tape is about to make it's way overseas next! James the Dancin'Hatchback wrote: "If you've read this FAr you're clearly a raving fruitcake." I would like to say that if you've read this FAR you're clearly a raving fruitloop! and now for the moment you've all been waiting for: *****FAVORITE QUOTES***** "But these kids are not even back woods. They give being a redneck a bad name." -- Mr. Willitron300 "It is hard to write e-mails whilst a horse is giving you the "come any closer and I'll jump over the fence and trample all over you alright? Punk." look, especially without a computer."--Kenneth PY Chu "I don't mind when friends smoke but when my car takes up the habit it gets personal"--Laura Llew "I don't have any fucking sins, I'm an angel"--Saint Peter of Heaven "well, only 363 more days to mess up..."--Archel Toast Take care everybody, and love to you all! love, Rachel fruitloop __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The ramblings of a new girl
by Eliza Grae 14 Jan '02

14 Jan '02

Hello to everyone, This is my first. Firsts can always be a little frightening. Nervous? Yes. No. Maybe. Perhaps. Who knows? What shall I speak of? Since this is my first, I think I will just ramble. I doubt you mind, and if you do you can always delete this message. Sorry. I enjoy reading all the posts. Some are extremely wonderful. I won't give any names at the moment, but I become very giddy when a few certain people post and I have to wiggle my toes. I recently bought The Magnetic Fields 69 Love Songs. I finally broke down. I'm such a cheap person. But, I suppose there are times when you just have forget everything and splurge. I'm surprised that I've been able to hold myself back from going vinyl crazy. I would never have any money then. I'd starve to death. "Eat? Who cares. I'm going to go get Dream Academy on vinyl!" So.......yeah. I've been doing some reading lately. Not Much Fun. I'm a girl who wears glasses. It seems to be a favorite among all of you. I'm quite fond of it too. I'm also reading some Truman Capote. Oh, how I wish I had something more to say! Something witty and fun. Perhaps something to tug at your heart strings. But, I don't. Oh, well. You won't hold my lack of interesting topics against me will you? Of course not. I did say you could delete this message. I know you will. "How 'bout them bears?" Now that's truly sad. I'll make a note. For future reference I shall stick to two topics: my health and the weather. "Is it safe?" If you actually made it this far, I'm sure you are ready to go and hang yourself. I don't blame you. I am sorry. I shall try to do better in the future. I may never write again! How sad. But, before I end this terrible excuse for a post, I have one question left to ask. "Cake or Death?" my most sincere apologies, Eliza P.S. I really do like Belle and Sebastian. Honest. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the long, dark teatime of the soul
by ian 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

(i hear we won a war. against people we don't know. they hurt us. well, not them exactly, one of their friends. but we can't find him, so we'll hurt them instead. they asked for it, simply by being starving and desperate. i hate everything the taliban were said to have stood for, but let's not pretend this was a humanitarian mission. you don't show your support for human rights by committing murder. whatever side you're on) everybody's playing a brand new game, now (come on baby, do the armageddon) stockpiling their weapons, apportioning blame, now (come on baby, do the armageddon) using racist rhetoric, fuelling unease its easier than learning your ABCs so come on, come on do the armageddon for me you gotta arm them ships, now c'mon georgie kabul iraq well you'll never bring them ba-ack woah oh woah oh now that you have started, events make a chain, now (cmon baby, do the armageddon) stigmatise the brown folk, call them insane, now (cmon baby, do the armageddon) pick a starving country, a nice sitting duck it'll make it easier to bomb it to fuck c'mon, c'mon do the armageddon for me just blow that mosque to bits, now cmon baby fly out fly back and destroy that peasant's sha-ack move around the floor in the armageddon (cmon baby, do the armageddon) there's not a muslim country we haven't dropped lead on (c'mon baby, do the armageddon) play it nice and easy now, don't lose control where once there was a city there's a gaping hole cmon cmon watch the armageddon with me. ----------------------------------------------- we don't talk about the war any more. it simply isn't newsworthy. a sad man lost a baby, and i could have cried for him. a prince smoked a special cigarette. a man who fell asleep woke up in prison. and we never found the Killer. right now, he hides and plots his revenge for their revenge for our revenge for his revenge (don't try and figure that out, it isn't meant to make sense) James Thorniley said spoke of ribena: >Also I think the >company that makes it is cruel to animals or something* so we should be >boycotting them anyway. that'd be smithkline-beecham, the drugs company. yes, they test on animals, but show me any medical supplier that hasn't done so and i'll show you someone who's just better at hiding it than everybody else. personally, i use their products because nobody else makes the pharmaceuticals it takes to fix my brain (yes, joe vester, that's a Chemical Imbalance, but i've never listened to system of a down in my life. not by choice, anyway) but there's no reason to buy their nasty syruppy sugar-filled crap. not when there's so much more corporate syruppy shit on the market. if you're really interested in boycotting products, you might find information on www.adbusters.org who i believe link to a list of such things. or they used to. failing that, there's lots of useful information and ideas there. beware of boycotting too many things, though. you'll either end up working on an organic farm or starving to death. archel said something interesting but i can't remember what it was. a boy talked of Time. i think his name was jules. he said time was syrupy. it isn't. i have licked Time, and can personally confirm that it tastes of coconut. but i like your style, kid.. i got a phone call from Saint Peter this morning. he said something about adopting a disguise to charm isobel campbell. i told him he should try and look like a hello kitty pencil-case. he didn't seem all that impressed by my suggestion. DILDOS! i have just watched vh1's 100 best albums of all time, and have to concurr with kieran's assessment of all such polls. they are EVIL. top 3 (in ascending order) oasis, michael jackson, u2. how anybody could compile such a list without mention of "so tough" is beyond me. i wanted to talk to you more, but its time i got away from you. vic reeves is singing about lesbians have nice nights ian _________________________ Tomorrow will bring happiness Or at least, another day Phil Ochs _________________________ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: April is a good month
by Jordi Trenzano 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Helloooooooo sinista !!! It´s been ages since I last posted. Don´t make me say when.........ummmm...... Lots of things happened since then. I think I didn´t comment the Benicassim festival, with the football match with a couple of crappy thin scot players included. One of them appeared on his white t-shirt on a pic on the spanish edition of "Rolling Stone", with me appearing blurry on it. The best part of it was finding Mariah Carey on the sleeve. "IWUTS" (it sounds like some kind of african spell, doesn´t it ?) is the best B&S single in ages. I truly believe it. No gigs in Europe yet.......oh.....you lucky Londoners, I know it has no relation, but don´t miss the Yann Tiersen gig at the Royal Albert Hall on february the 5th. In his world, vinyl records are made like crêpes. Bloody exams that would prevent me from going there. But they won´t stop me from seeing Godspeed you Black Emperor! on saturday the 2nd. in Barcelona. Has anyone seen them live on this same tour ? I owe some apologies: to Helen and Rachel, I still have to send you your sinister christmas presents. Being almost broke at the end of the year took me to this long delay. But I truly promise that i´ll send them tomorrow or in wednesday. I hope Miss Laura Llew doesn´t kick me as a punish. Well, now I have some euros. I think they´re ugly. And I think they´ll become uglier now that miss Stacey Dahling is no longer using them :( Spain, Greece, the whole euro zone and the whole Europe should miss her terribly. Specially at #sinister The subject line. Designing a calendar is one of the GRATEST things I´ve done lately ;) I got an autograph from Andrew Weatherall. He says he´ll produce pop/rock bands again.´But i´m not making suggestions ! Love, truly Red Bulls (not those crappy energy drinks that some bars have here) and best wishes to all the sinister land. Jordiet +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: domestic bliss
by elise j. spry 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Hello Everyone!! Long time, no post. But I suppose that's the same for almost everyone, what with the holidays and the foreign-boy romancin' and the kiss kiss kiss. I heard a funny song. It's called (something like) "I'm spending Christmas with the Daleks" and it's adorable. I'm going to rent a Doctor Who this very afternoon - starring Tom Baker, OF COURSE. So those of you who know me as somewhat of a wanton vibrator-happy, party girl sex goddess will be either pleased or disappointed to hear that I've officially Settled Down. The purple buzzy thing has been put away in my bottom drawer (NOT the bottom of my drawers), and James G and I have set up house. We've even gone so far as to purchase furniture together and create nooks round the apartment. We're nooking! Jimmy is cooking some turkey bacon at the moment, and come next week, he'll even be bringing it home - he's gone and got himself a job here in Madison!! That bacon smells heavenly! Are there Old Navy stores in the UK? (or elsewhere on the continent - but you guys have H&M, I'm terribly jealous!) They're like The Gap, only less expensive and the clothes are cuter (in my opinion). We went there yesterday to get Jimmy some "business casual" (he's got the casual part down pat, it's the business end he's got to work on) and there's a big ol' sale going on. I got a silk shirt for $1.99!! And some green shimmery eyeshadow for forty-nine cents. Whoo-hoo!! My point is - get thee to an Old Navy store and maketh thyself lovely in new garments. Rachie - did you get you pressie yet? I do so hope you like it!! Kirsten - email me!! I'm dying to hear from you darlin'. Ken Chu. Likes Japanese candy. And so do I. Sean - is moving to his very own apartment soon: wish the boy luck. And send him housewarming gifts or cards. Address on request (from me). I'll stop rambling on soon, but I'd like to finish by wishing everyone a wonderful 2002 - I hope you all get what you want this year. Love to everyone, kisses to Jimmy. Yours, Lisey __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: warlords of mars
by Dirty Vicar 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

hello everyone, it's me again with the latest news from the Vicarage. I've been listening to Kate Bush's first album "The Kick Inside" a lot lately. It's a big bag of fun. We always do expressive dances to the opening bars of the first track, which shows how artistic we are. Does anyone know what other Kate Bush albums are worth listening to? I don't know if any of you frequent the Jeepster messageboards (er, they're not officially called the Jeepster messageboards anymore but the official names don't trip off the tongue so readily). Lately all out war has broken out there as it turned out that almost all of the registered users were pseudonyms for two people. It makes any Sinister flamewar look very tame by comparison. Once again friendly Sinister triumphs. I've been reading one of the books I got for Christmas, "Dance of Days" about the Washington DC punk scene. An amusing thing is I don't know the music of that city at all, and have the vague idea it's all a bit turgid. But the scene is interesting to read about. The people in it all sound incredibly earnest... with their hardline straight-edge anti-drink anti-drugs and anti-sex ideology they sound like they would be no fun at all to hang out with. And they all take themselves incredibly seriously, and don't allow any room for, well, *entertainment* in their music - it all has to be about communicating some serious political message. Like, yawn. And they hate disco music. The Dirty Vicar likes disco music. There's nothing he likes more than organising discos for the young people to shake their stuff at in the vicarage. He likes when the young people shake their stuff. I don't know if any of you live vaguely in the Dublin metropolitan area, but a possible date for your calendar is March 23rd when there is going to a be a Northern soul all-nighter in the TCD rowing club on Coyningham Road. Northern Soul all-nighters sound like my cup of tea. That "Careless Talks Costs Lives" magazine has been mentioned a few times. I'll say one thing for it, it has a snappy title and that's going to help it in destroying the traditional music press. Someone else mentioned that Everett True writes for it (and possibly edits it, and stuff). They even claimed that True was one of the best writers of the old Melody Maker before it became rubbish. Marxist Science and true exegesis of the Book of Tobit do not support this proposition. Mr True tended to write about good bands, but he tended to write about them in an annoying self-glorifying manner where his articles where all about him, how great he was, and how people in popular bands were his best friends. You would never pick up any useful information of or impressions about the bands he wrote about, just the vague impression that if True was writing about them they were probably good. I never worked out whether True's journalism was all some kind of complicated unfunny joke or whether he actually was a sad self-aggrandizing loser who hasn't registered that music journos are less interesting than musicians. But nevertheless, credit where it's due, he did write about some good bands, and his "turn the train around" article about The Dirty Three was one of the most (possibly unintentionally) funny things I have ever read. The actually good writers from the Melody Maker - Chris Roberts, Simon Reynolds etc. are mostly writing for Uncut these days. Reynolds also writes boring articles for The Wire. In final news, I think the Church of Tobit is spreading its wings. A recent issue of popular comic "Promethea" mentioned the Book of Tobit, and only the other day I saw a novel in Waterstones based on Tobist themes. Sadly I don't remember its title. Or author. But trust me, I'm not making it up. It's set in Venice. So I say unto ye - cleave unto Tobit and beware women beloved of demons. Your pal, The Dirty Vicar PS oh and welcome to new friend Toy Stephen. The Dirty Vicar approves of those who namecheck him. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Drunk on the streets of Chicago
by Jennifer Phillips-Bacher 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Mes fleurs! I greet you! It's been ages since I last posted, perhaps even last millennium. Hello to all the new kids, hello to the old. This post, as my posts have typically been in the past, is double-fold (and don't even get me started on that Nicholson Baker book of that title). In the lingo of the Modern Work-place, I like to "multitask". In fact, right now, not only am I typing away at my keyboard, I am also washing up and doing elaborate beadwork on a bodice. Bodice! As very few of you know, I was in Olde London Towne between Christmas and New Year's. It was a great pleasure to bowl amongst the Great Enzymes on Lane 4 during the Great Sinister Bowlathon. I was pleasantly surprised by the finesse with which my teammates lobbed the ball. My meager 87 point game only slightly contributed to the lead earned by Ken, Ben, and Sarah Garrett Sonner (and two boys I didn't officially meet...bah!), and it was a great honor to play with such luminaries. My hostess during the holiday was the aforementioned SGS, whose company I have cherished in Chicago in the past. We sampled many carrot cakes of the UK, especially in museum cafes, with the British Library ranking tops. Or perhaps it was just the atmosphere? In my case, anything tastes good sitting in the company of rare books. Thus concludes my first task: to give mad props to those of you I met, and to those of you I did not, I extend my regrets. Parte secondo: I will be in Seattle from Feb.9-14 for some work training hoo-ha, and if anyone would care to meet me for coffee or drinks, please let me know! My nights are free, and I'm always eager to meet Sinisterians in distant locales. Maybe we could even bowl? Wasn't there a song about that, something like "Take the Sinisterians Bowling"? It's good to be back in your loving arms, o Sinister. It's been too long. as always, Jenn P-B encoded message: SGSYOUARETHEBEST! and also a pleasant hello to Ms. Edna Welthorpe. I think I owe you a drink. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Lamacq Live - Monday
by David Moore 13 Jan '02

13 Jan '02

Hi All, Excuse me. According to Steve Lamacq's page http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/lamacq.shtml the headline set on BBC Radio 1's Lamacq Live on Monday 14 Jan - 20:00-00:00 (GMT) will be from Belle & Sebastian. You can listen er, live, from http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/realaudio/index.html I think I will be going to a gig on Monday evening (support Sinisterines! http://www.skratt.net/jinx/flyers/2001-01-14.html) & will have to get son James to tape it for me. Anyone know roughly what time they will be on, please? MTIA. Some people may find their loyalties tested. On the same evening BBC Radio Scotland will broadcast a session from Camera Obscura. The next bit nicked from the very quiet andmoresound mailing list: "Camera Obscura will be live on BBC Radio Scotland's Air this coming Monday. The programme is on from 7-9pm, hosted by DJ Vic Galloway. The band will play 3 songs and might have a wee chat with Vic in between records. If you would like to find out more, visit the show's web site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/air/ If you can't tune in, check the web site later in the week, because they often post MP3 from the sessions" /me looks at last couple of days' Sinister posts. I like poetry. That'll be it then. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Hello from an American kid in London
by Andrew Barton 12 Jan '02

12 Jan '02

Hello, I am that American kid in London, and my name is Andrew Barton. This is my first post, as I only joined the list a month ago. I have to say that I don't know what the hell I'm doing here and writing this, but alas, here I am. As you can imagine, being an American high school student, there aren't many B & S fans around. My best friend and I are rather alone on this front, so it's quite nice to see this many people who love the same music. I got into Belle & Sebastian quite late I'm afraid. Carey, my best friend, picked up "Fold you hands child..." by chance because he had recently become a Donovan fanatic, and had read something about B&S. He called me imediately after getting home and had listened to the album. "I Fought In A War" came over the phone. During the first 30 seconds of Stuart singing with the faint guitar in the background, my mouth dropped open. When he took away the phone I asked him to put it back again. So I listened the the rest of the song, and spent the next days, weeks, and months listening to the other albums and e.p.'s. I didn't have a favorite band before then, and it came along at just the right time. We drove from Southern Oregon to Olypia Washington to see the gig this September, and it was one of the best days I've had. I remeber on the way back I was listening to "If You're Feeling Sinister" on my walkman, falling in and out of sleep. When "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying" came on I woke up and bobbed my head to it looking out the window at the moon. When it was over I drifted off to sleep again, hearing the songs played that night over and over in my head as I slept. All of my memories of Belle & Sebastian songs are like that. Hazy but also clear. I can never get sick of those songs, and don't think I ever will. I feel like a twit for asking this- but I'll ask it anyway. I have a theatre engagment on Monday that was planned months ago. As you all know, Monday the 14th is the day Radio 1 is broadcasting the Belfast gig. Obviously, I won't be there to tape it. If anyone could possibly dub an extra tape or burn an extra cd for me, I would be exceedingly greatful. I don't have anything special to offer in return, other than a tape of the radio broadcast of Bowlie, if someone doesn't have that. And of course money for the tape and other expenses rendered. If this is possible for anyone, please contact me personally. I really didn't want to include something like this in my introduction to everyone, asking a favor of people I don't even know. But I would have given anything to have been there. Please don't think I posted just to ask for the above, I didn't. I wanted to introduce myself to everyone, and say something about why I like the band. So, in conclusion- I love Belle & Sebastian (as if all of you didn't), and I love reading your posts. I look forward to the clever thoughts and stories every day. After blabbering for this long, I will say thank you for your time. All the best, Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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