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Sinister: Same same but different
by Stuart Gardiner 25 May '04

25 May '04

So B&S are indie veterans now then? I remember when they were newcomers. I really must have been on here too long. OK, so I send a great long email to sinister about Tibet, get quite a few interesting replies, and don't get anywhere near my email for two weeks. So, sorry everyone... So not everyone agreed with me. And others did. That's fine. To be expected. I did present a bit of a one-sided view - probably more enthusisastic towards the Chinese than I actually believe myself? - but the important thing was to present the other side of the story to what you normally hear. Hope I managed that at least. You're right - things aren't perfect in Tibet, most notably the lack of freedom, as elsewhere in China. I just don't like being constantly told in the West that it's an open-and-shut case whether things are good or bad in Tibet, when really it's a lot more complicated than that. Whatever the Beastie Boys might like us to think... I also don't like the idea that China must be a bad thing for Tibet, because of what their leaders did 40 years ago, when the destruction of monasteries and killing of monks etc actually happened. Let's face it, I wouldn't like it if people started having a go at me because of what the British government did in the days of the Empire before I was even born (and that has happened several times while I've been travelling...) On another note, a few people were asking me to explain a bit about what's going on in Nepal right now, since it's not been reported much in the West. So, if you don't care, skip this bit... About 5 years ago, most of the royal family were murdered. According to the official palace version, the crown prince went mad because he wasn't allowed to marry the woman he loved, so he got an automatic weapon out and massacred all the royals present. And then killed himself. His uncle, who was conveniently absent (along with his son) at another palace in Pokhara, became king. So far, so good. Except, if the crown prince was firing an automatic weapon around the room, how come not one security guard was injured? And how did he manage to shoot himself in the left-hand side of his head, with an automatic weapon, when he's right-handed? And how did the only other member of the royal family not present, the prince's sister, die in a terrible helicopter crash two weeks later in which the pilot was un-injured? The only thing anyone knows for sure is that the official version is a load of rubbish. And the truth? Doesn't really matter really - all that's important is what people believe, especially in a country where news spreads by word of mouth in the absence of TV or radio. So now, the Maoists, who have been violently campaigning since before then for the end of the monarchy and an agrarian state (alarmingly similar in aims and methods to the Khmer Rouge actually) are stronger than ever. They're getting money from somewhere, but no-one is sure where - officially China have disowned them, and they're not getting that much from robbing banks. Some people in Nepal even think the king is giving them money, because as long as the rebellion continues, he has an excuse to maintain absolute power. 18 months ago, the king diosolved parliament for not controlling the Maoists and being corrupt (and they were). So now the politcal parties are also campaigning against both the King and the Maoists. And every week there's a national strike called by one or the other, which paralyses the country and destroys the economy. In the meantime, things keep getting worse. Hundreds have been killed this year on both the Maoist side and in the army and amongst civilians. And the only thing rescuing the country from all-out civil war is that most of the population don't support the King OR the Maoists OR the parties. Nepal is just another example of why democracy isn't always the best answer for a country, no matter what the US government would have us believe... Anyways, enough politics. Wasn't that in the list rules once upon a time, no talk of politics? Oh well, nobody is talking about anything else these days... So, I'll get back to travelling. I love this lifestyle. I've been in four countries since last I wrote. I love the hot, sticky weather. I love the challenge of crossing a road in Saigon, or breathing in Kathmandu, or not freezing to death at Everest Base Camp. I love the people you meet, from all over the world (well apart from one nationality, best not say but anyone who's ever backpacked will know...). I love the challenges of putting up with the touts and con-artists without losing your temper. I love the food, and the sounds and smells (apart from the smell of the Durian fruit, obviously). I love the stamps in my passport. I don't love the fact that on the 3rd of July I've got to fly home... Big Stu _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: The Forgetting of Wisdom
by Krister Bladh 24 May '04

24 May '04

Good evening (or morning (I suppose you got better things than checking your Sinister-mail during Work Hours! (it could be weekend though))) (honestly, I didnt write this just please the god of parentheses) ...now, I always manage to think of things that I should ask you people when Im as far away from a computer as possible, but Ive tried to get a few things together here. First of all I suppose you know as much about Felt as members of a Felt mailing list which CD do I buy to get all the singles? All these Stains On a Decade, Absolute Classic Masterpieces volumes 1 to I dont know just makes me dizzy. And I noticed someone asked for tabs to Wandering Alone. If anyone answered that, could you please send me a copy? You see, Ive got this song with the same chords, but I cant work out which they are. Trust me, its about as infuriating as coming to school at 8 oclock just find out that your lessons in the German language There, Ive done it again! Forgotten it all. Maybe I shouldnt listen to the song in the subject line anymore (by the lucksmiths) (but you knew that). Too bad b&s arent going to same festivals but me. But hey, I get to see Bright Eyes, Tompaulin, Lovejoy, Ladybug Transistor, Boyracer, Bearsuit, the Shins, Go! Team, Electrelane, Franz Ferdinand, Essex Green und so weiter. Dont mean to brag. Now its off to bed/work for you Sleep/work well And dont let those bed bugs/superiors bite Chris, out of work and unable to sleep (the latter because of the former) -- ______________________________________________ Check out the latest SMS services @ http://www.linuxmail.org This allows you to send and receive SMS through your mailbox. Powered by Outblaze +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Cliff and Sebastian
by idleberry 24 May '04

24 May '04

</de-lurk> Well hello my pretties I thought I�d come out of hiding for a moment and make a post. It feels like such a long time since my last one. In fact, it was. About 5 months ago, or so. You�ve not missed much from me. I split up with my boyfriend, and I got a promotion at work, and I�ve been drifting around that place called Bowlie, where I�ve discovered it�s far easier to upset them than it is to upset you. I hate to tell you kids, but you just aren�t twee enough. Must try harder. Go outside and flounce around in the flowers for a bit of revision. Especially you, Mark Casarotto. I think I had a dream about Ken Chu the other night, although I can�t remember what happened. It might have been worthwhile telling you about. Can I just say: CONGRATULATIONS TO PAUL �GINGERFOX� FIELD, WHO GOT MARRIED (I hope?) TODAY. AND TO THE NEW MRS FIELD. So, I presume you�ve all read this from nme.com? it was only a matter of time I suppose. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN's new single will spell an unlikely payday for CLIFF RICHARD . The Scottish indie veterans release the AA single 'Your Cover's Blown' / 'Wrapped Up In Books' on June 21 through Rough Trade. However, the band have owned up to 'Wrapped Up In Books'' similarity to 'In The Country' by Cliff Richard, and handed over 20% of the royalties from the track. http://www.nme.com/news/108587.htm I think Cliff Richard should do a cover of a B&S song. I haven�t actually thought this out properly though, and decided on which song he should cover. Mind you, that�ll teach them not to nick harmonies from an artist who isn�t dead. They should have stuck to Nick Drake. As usual, I�ve got bugger all anything interesting to say. Unusually, I am actually going to use this as a stop point, rather than ramble on forever. Love Idles ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains � Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: Shameless promotion, Sweden and, well, love.
by Ben Lee 21 May '04

21 May '04

1. Spent a day in Malmö two weeks ago. Took a train across Øresund from København. Fantastic place. 2. Saw the trailer for Psalmer från köket. Looks very interesting. Have to wait until the local indie theatres pick it up, which is probably never. Come on, Camera Cinemas, get your act together. -B -----Original Message----- From: owner-sinister(a)missprint.org [mailto:owner-sinister@missprint.org] On Behalf Of Astrid Wiezell Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 3:39 PM To: sinister(a)missprint.org Subject: Sinister: Shameless promotion, Sweden and, well, love. Hey Sinister, A lot of people coming to Sweden it seems, well, ok, only Ian and Olivier, but still. Anyone else? Also, me and Mats watched two good films in two nights. Yesterday we watched The Pianist by Roman Polanski, with Adrien Brody who was really great, the whole movie was great actually. And then today, we watched Kitchen Stories, or Psalmer från Köket as it was called in Swedish, which was a great Norwegian film. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Shameless promotion, Sweden and, well, love.
by Astrid Wiezell 21 May '04

21 May '04

Hey Sinister, Hope you're all doing ok. Wrote a longer post before, which I was actually quite content with, until I pushed unknown button and IT ALL DISAPPEARED. Argh. Makes me a wee bit tired. Anyways. Am with boyfriend Mats in his hometown of Falun, which is three hours by train from Stockholm. His band High Heels is a great acoustic pop band, often leaning towards the melancholy side, and they are really a nice band - i've come up here to watch them play tomorrow on a one-day-festival. In any case, their website is: www.high-heels.xix.nu and you should all go there and download the song "We'll stay the same forever" off the demo with the same name. They sing in harmonies and have the cello and piano and sometimes trumpet, and acoustic guitar and bass and stuff and they RAWK! so, go there and download them. Kat, well, we are going to be on a compilation cd for a swedish website (www.blandband.nu) (translation = www.mixtape.nu) a Swedish nerdo site for music geeks, and there are so many people in bands there that it was decided to compile a cd with some of them. And so, we are going to be on it. And we're trying to record the wee lo-fi demo, it is going quite well, and now i will get the instruction book and it might go even better, ha ha. I have no technical skills what so ever. A lot of people coming to Sweden it seems, well, ok, only Ian and Olivier, but still. Anyone else? Also: Richard is one of the funniest people ever, and i wish he lived here so we could sit in cafés and drink coffee (well he could - i don't) and talk talk talk. He is one cool dude. Now, I'm soon going to go to bed and sleep, I'm just waiting for "my man". I have no idea to approach this people, what to call him when talking to people, or stuff. I don't know, I just go with the flow or whatever, and then I do say the odd thing now and again, but fuck it. He is lovely and amazes me with his talent (makes films, very musical person, takes beautiful pictures AND writes well, HELLO Astrid's low self-esteem, still weird pride about him has arose in me - two quite contradicting feelings but i think i like it) Did you lot know Kat is a drug? I got reminded by someone, but it turned out it was just like this African sort of tobacco or whatever that you chew, so it's not really the most offensive thing... she said until she stood there, waiting to get lynched by crazy right-wing people who claims i am drug liberal and therefore MUST DIE since i am making their kids go crazy for kat (the drug, not us). Hmm. Don't know where that came from. Also, me and Mats watched two good films in two nights. Yesterday we watched The Pianist by Roman Polanski, with Adrien Brody who was really great, the whole movie was great actually. And then today, we watched Kitchen Stories, or Psalmer från Köket as it was called in Swedish, which was a great Norwegian film. Anyways just wanted to say: *Kat's website is still: www.katsite.tk *Having someone to hold you at night was lovelier than I ever imagined it would be. *DOWNLOAD HIGH HEELS! www.high-heels.xix.nu *Richard: I will write you a long letter of reply on Monday! Don't fall asleep grading! *I SCORED BEST IN MY ENTIRE CLASS ON THE NATIONAL TESTS IN ENGLISH - ALL THREE PARTS! YES! AND I'M NOT EVEN A NATIVE SPEAKER LIKE MANY PEOPLE IN MY CLASS ARE! HAHA! Take care, hope to hear from many of you since I am quite positive I might actually love you all, Astrid x _________________________________________________________________ Auktioner: Tjäna en hacka på gamla prylar http://tradera.msn.se +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: exterminate all the brutes
by Dirty Vicar 20 May '04

20 May '04

hello there, I am going to begin with a bit of politics. If you are bored with such things, skip on to the end where my old friend and quaffing partner Mad King Ken tells us how he got on at B&S' recent concert in San Francisco. Like Mr Purple Trousers, I was interested by Big Stu's comments on Tibet. I can't claim to be an expert on the Tibetan situation, but I do think that his conclusions are based on some shaky assumptions: i) that Chinese rule has been good for Tibet This is at best debatable. In any case, my suspicion is that most Tibetans would rather be in charge of their own destiny rather than have to defer to some apparatchik appointed by the Beijing junta. ii) that it's alright to invade countries if they have regimes you find reprehensible. This is what we might call the Bush doctrine. Now, I'm not saying that a theocratic Tibet ruled by monks would be an ideal state, but the idea that mass-murderer Mao Zedong and his heirs are somehow fit to be lecturing other people on how to run their country is not overly convincing. iii) that it's alright to invade countries who have only been independent for forty years or less. My own country had been independent for less than forty years when China invaded Tibet, so I find this view rather objectionable. I do kind of agree, though, that there is a certain so-whatness to being in favour of a Free Tibet. The complicity of the West in Tibet's subjugation is fairly minimal, given that China is one of the few independent countries left outside the Anglo-American orbit. OK, so you could say that by trading with China we are assisting Tibet's occupation, but if you didn't trade with human rights abusing countries then you wouldn't trade with anyone. A comparison with the occupation of Palestine is instructive. The Israeli state is heavily bankrolled by the USA, allowing it to spend American tax dollars to kill Palestinian children. The UK and Germany lend Israel important diplomatic support. The EU generally has cravenly declined to invoke the human rights clauses of its trade treaty with Israel. So if you live in Europe or the USA then, thanks to your government, you (like me) are kind of complicit in the slow mass murder of Palestinians. This is not good. Moving along from politics, I was in London last weekend at Carsmile Steve's birthday and wedding anniversary party, where I had fun. I met MarkH who affected not to recognise me because my hair is a bit shaggy at the moment. I also met other people (like the Finefox) who seemed to know who I was. It's amazing how hot it is in London. Small wonder that Freikorperkultur is so popular, with people loafing around in half nothing. I also like the way you can buy magic mushrooms in shops on Oxford Street. That rocks. I've booked into a hotel or guesthouse or something in Glasgow for the B&S gig thing. Someone asserted to me that the place I am staying in is not very nice in some way, but I can't remember in what way. I hope I am not staying in the Hotel McStinko. OK, that's enough of that. Here is Mad King Ken on his concert: > say them play in the warfield last week. good gig although i was > standing in front of a really annoying 50+ drunk american hick who kept > shouting for the 'Boy with the Arab Strap' or to be precise ' Give us > the Strap' when he wasn't calling out for 'FreeBird'. he then went wild > when they played 'Sleep the clock around' and fell over bring down a > couple of friends who were with me. they need to enforce a higher > quality control of their audiance. This is all a bit "Stooges", if you ask me. bless you all, DV +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: FW: Calling London
by robin stout 20 May '04

20 May '04

Hallo sinipops, It's leafy and green round here, and the flowers have unfurled and tickle my nose in the morning. This particular morning, as I ate breakfast, I found a pink pigeon perched on the apple tree outside my window. He looked exhausted. His feathers were in disarray and his moustache was drooping. I put down the Racing Post and invited him in for a cup of coffee (tea is still too much to bear), and he told me his story. He had flown all the way from Sweden, he said - yes, Sweden! "Well, your English is excellent", I said. "Oh, it's only pigeon English", said he. And, as his moustache began to perk up he told me he had a letter for all of you. "From Simon", he said, "You may remember him, and you should pay attention to what he says. He's a very important person. I've flown a long way for him, and I'd do it again." He dropped the leter on the table, and with a quick tip on Brassy Lad in the 3.30 at Chepstow he hopped, skipped and flew out of the window. I opened the letter; this is what it said: >----------- >The letter. >Subject: Calling London >------------ > >Hello Sinister! Remember me? I've actually been on the list for quite some >time, but the old address with which I once subscribed won't let me send, >only receive... so it's been awfully quiet from me I guess, though someone >might remember the old Sinister Village site (which actually still exists, >but is nowadays hardly visited - maybe it is now a ghost town?) which I >made for you. Oh, it's still at http://move.to/sinistervillage, but the >message board doesn't work :( > >So anywhoo, the point... I know I put it here somewhere... oh yes, I'm >leaving Gothenburg, Sweden for London this summer, for two months starting >sometime in the middle of June, and it would be really super to hook up >with some people. Especially since I don't know anyone in that awfully big >city of yours. I would love to just hang out, get to know the city, the >clubs, have a few too many beers... oh yeah and make some music maybe, and >record some songs, because I'm probably gonna bring the old laptop and some >instruments... > >Please mail me at simon.aurell(a)home.se. I'm really friendly and I won't >bite. > >Hugs everyone, >Simon _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE connection, FREE modem and one month's FREE line rental, plus a US or European flight when you sign up for BT Broadband! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Belle & Sebastian News Message - New Single and Video details!!! (fwd)
by Linda Kerr 19 May '04

19 May '04

No news of Rhoda in this one, sorry, Ken. All this choice is just so confusing! I'll have to buy them all... Linda xx ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:49:41 +0000 From: Belle and Sebastian <mailinglist(a)belleandsebastian.com> Reply-To: "listmanager(a)banchory.net" <listmanager(a)banchory.net> To: "lulou(a)crockery.org" <lulou(a)crockery.org> Subject: Belle & Sebastian News Message - New Single and Video details!!! Hello all, After a hectic weekend finishing things in the studio, we can announce that Belle & Sebastian's new AA-side "Books" is to be released on June 21st in UK and Europe. It'll be available on three formats:- The Enhanced CD single will feature "Your Cover's Blown", "Wrapped Up In Books", "Your Secrets" and "Cover (Version)", as well as the video to "Wrapped Up In Books" and a Books computer game. The DVD single contains "Your Cover's Blown" (with cartoon gallery by Marc Baines), the video to "Wrapped Up In Books", plus "Your Secrets" and "Cover (Version)". Lastly, the 7" single will feature "Your Cover's Blown (edit)" and "Wrapped Up In Books". The video for "Wrapped Up In Books" was co-directed by Stuart and Blair Young, and stars Alex Klobouk (Germany's reknowned Catastrophe Waitress) and Gisela Hans. You can vote to get the video up the NME/MTV2 charts by visiting http://www.mtv2europe.com/mtv2europe.com/nmeChart.jhtml In other news, B&S have confirmed appearances at the Glastonbury and Benicassim festivals in the UK in June and Spain in August respectively. Also, Devendra Banhart has been confirmed as the opener for both the Somerset House shows, with The Shins playing as well. More info on all these shows can be found in the "On Tour" section of the website at http://www.belleandsebastian.com/tour.php We've made some more t-shirts recently: Sarah has a new 6 colour B&S logo which is printed onto navy unisex and light blue girlie tees, plus a cute wee enamel badge with a chicken and egg design on it, by our good friend Marc Baines. We're STILL waiting on the enamel mugs to arrive, but hopefully they, a new "Profiles" shirt, poster and special souvenir surpise item of merchandise will be available in time for the Glasgow Botanics show on June 12th. In any case, you can still purchase items online by visiting http://www.banchoryshop.net and clicking on B&S. That's it for now, get voting on the vid and we'll have more news for you soon! Cheers, Katrina @ Banchory. http://www.belleandsebastian.com http://www.banchoryshop.net http://www.wrappedupinbooks.com To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit http://www.belleandsebastian.com/mailing_list.php +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fw: Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith (+Nick Drake stuff this saturday)
by jim taylor 19 May '04

19 May '04

I couldn't find Ian's E.S. obituary [forwarded at the bottom] in the archive, so I'm not sure if it ever got through last December? I wanted to read it again, having thought of Elliott Smith a bit recently, and thankfully found it in an old sent mail folder. His name keeps appearing in my inbox re: this London tribute to which I don't have time to contribute in the organising... there is a fund to donate to though: The Elliott Smith Memorial Fund - financial support for children who are victims of abuse. http://www.sweetadeline.net/esmf.html 888888888888888888 Since people seem to be interested: more Nick Drake stuff : This Saturday the BBC are really going for it- For those I guess mainly in the UK/able to get the digital TV channel BBC4, a film I've missed at various screenings and festivals for a few years now: NICK DRAKE: A SKIN TOO FEW Saturday 22 May 2004 10.55pm-11.45pm BBC 4 http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/music/features/nick-drake.shtml and on the radio + thus available to all online I presume (SEE I DON'T JUST THINK OF THINGS LONDON + UK :) 21:00-2200 Lost Boy: In Search of Nick Drake (presented by Brad Pitt!) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/r2music/documentaries/nickdrake/nickdrake_about. shtml So erm, set the videos, tape recorders. In fact if you have a DVDR and happen to be not using it and like doing random acts of kindness? Ok, maybe that *is* abusing the list... I probably shouldn't bore you with the fact there is a nick drake single out (yesterday) and album (next monday) worth getting of different stuff and one brand 'new' track. Jim x Ian's words on Elliott Smith follow, and deserve to be archived somewhere *I* think. I hope you don't disagree... (see below) ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim taylor" <> To: <sinister(a)missprint.org> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 1:15 AM Subject: Fw: Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith > So erm, this was quite fresh when Ian wrote it. I eventually asked him if > he'd mind me passing it on to you lot. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian Anscombe" > To: <> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:36 PM > Subject: Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith > > > > Lost and found, and lost again - Elliott Smith, a tribute, of sorts. > > > > > > I never had all your albums. > > > > I never stood, shivering in the cold, outside Wolverhampton Civic, > > desperately hoping I'd be able to get in to meet you. I haven't done > > that in a while, since I met Kirsty Maccoll and it didn't go as planned. > > > > > > I couldn't quote the lyrics to all of your songs. > > > > But I'm sad, today. > > > > I want to turn round to the people in my office and ask them... 'isn't > > it terrible?'...'have you heard the news?'.... but they would look at me > > oddly and say 'who?' and go back to their own worlds, where other things > > matter more. > > > > A friend wrote to me, to talk about it. He said he'd taken you for > > granted while you were around. I had to agree. We'd been to see you, > > both of us, on separate occasions. Mine was at Glastonbury, in the year > > 2000. You were just about to make it big - or big in our terms, those > > strange, precious terms of those of us who like quiet, sensitive, > > beautifully strange music just a little bit too much. > > > > I don't remember what you wore. I assume I wore what I wore all weekend. > > I do remember, though, how the crowd went quiet towards the end as you > > stood, shyly, in front of us, performing slices of your life for our > > entertainment. I remember how the words of loss, loneliness and hope > > moved me and how I encountered unplaceable feelings as the words: > > > > Don't go home Angeline > > Stay with me > > Hanging around > > At the lost and found > > > > Swept out towards me, and into the evening outside, where a festival > > continued and, beyond that, into a world that lived oblivious to us. > > > > I had your albums on my shelf - below the ever-changing list of > > favourites - Mercury Rev, Belle and Sebastian, The Aislers Set, The > > Fieldmice, Galaxie 500 - you were there. If I didn't pay you enough > > attention it was only because the other distractions were so wonderful, > > so simultaneously happy-and-sad and achingly beautiful and warm that I > > couldn't let them go while the love affairs lasted. > > But I knew you were there. Sometimes, I'd come back to you, think I'd > > like to see you more, and then not do anything about it. > > > > > > I was shocked yesterday. You see some things coming - Kurt Cobain made a > > living out of sounding suicidal. Nina Simone had been dying slowly for > > years. It seemed better that she went than shuffled on in the deranged, > > bitter fashion she had adopted. Barry White made me smile, but he never > > moved me like you did, he was never one of 'mine'. Even pretty little > > Zac Foley wasn't such a blow - he'd always belonged to my friend Jo. She > > found him first, and kept him. > > > > But you were a little secret I had to myself. And I realise that's > > preposterous on one level - anyone who ever sat through 'Good Will > > Hunting' would have heard your songs - those and the sight of Matt Damon > > without clothes being the only things that could entice me to sit > > through it again. You were lauded in the music press, though some of > > them set you up to knock you down, but that's their way. You were > > compared to Nick Drake. I saw the comparsion. I didn't know you'd follow > > it through to its logical extreme. > > > > Part of me wants to say you're stupid. Part of me wants to say look at > > all the people who struggled to stay alive. Look at Kirsty Maccoll -who > > gave her life to save her child - who gave it for something important. > > And you threw yours away, or so it seems. > > > > Incidentally, I mentioned you when Kirsty died. It made me sad, she'd > > been a favourite once upon a time, but she'd already slipped away. or I > > had. I mentioned that you were one of my new friends, and I hadn't > > needed her any more. > > > > I can't say the same this time. So, I took you for granted, but that's > > what people do. That's how we live, and get through the days. We have > > too much to think about as it is. > > > > And you never would have noticed if I hadn't. I was just a blip on a > > sales chart. Nothing important. We only met the once, and I had to share > > you with several hundred people. > > We won't meet again, clearly, except when I play those songs, and think > > of how they made me feel, and how they could make me shiver, and bring > > a warm, happy sort of aloneness. > > > > So, I won't call you stupid, because I know that isn't true. You did > > something selfish, but, ultimately, that's your prerogative. I wish it > > hadn't happened this way. You felt different. You were a little boy who > > made it big and so many of us who watched you felt the little boys > > inside us smiling slightly as you grew. > > > > There will be a posthumous album. I'm guessing it will be your biggest > > yet. You should have stuck around, and seen it through. Now, we'll have > > to do it for you. > > > > > > I never had all your albums. > > > > I never stood, in the cold, outside Wolverhampton Civic. Ever since the > > day I embarrassed myself in front of Kirsty MacColl, I've been wary of > > meeting my heroes. > > > > I couldn't quote the lyrics to all of your songs. > > > > I never knew you. > > > > I'll miss you. Good luck, wherever you are. > > > > > > Ian > > > > > > > > It still moves me to read Ian's words now. Not a lot you can say after that > is there? > > The only useful thing I might do is point people in the direction of a > favourite Australian singer-songwriter of mine, TIM OXLEY. If at least one > good thing could come of ES's death it might be it prompting me to bang on > about this guy in Sinister land. I immediately thought ES when I heard one > of TO's songs, and indeed he references ES (as well as Bonnie Prince Billy) > in his songs on the gorgeous 2002 album 'It's All About Love'. Which does > what it says on the label. > > I understand said CD to have received the ginger-fox seal of approval too. > > check the discussion boards through the Sweet Adeline ES website for tribute > events if they haven't already happened in you area. I'll try + post when > the London tribute event finally gets sorted out. > > Jim x > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: TEA CUP OF DOOM
by robin stout 18 May '04

18 May '04

Hullo: I made a cup of tea the other day, and accidentally spooned a heap of salt into it instead of sugar. Now I can't let my lips touch a cup of the life-giving liquid without the memory of the horrible taste running up my tongue and flapping in my brain like a pigeon up a chimney. It's horrible. I really don't know what to do. Possibly I shall die of thirst. Does anyone know what happened to Rhoda in the end? Struan made a competition a while ago for us, the general biscuit nibbling, elbow-patch wearing public to record our own versions, saying the winner would be released as a b-side to a single. Was this just a lie? If not, did Ken win? If not, why not? EH? Whose legs are these? I'm rather tempted to send him a recording of me playing Rhoda on my slide trombone. He would love that. I could do some fancy slides to liven it up a bit when it gets boring, like that verse about cornflakes. Slides on my trombone, I mean, not on a slide projector, although that would liven it up too, especially if they were slides of people's bottoms. I could also do funny noises on my trombone that sound like people blowing off. To accompany the slides of people's bottoms, perhaps? That would make it loads more fun. I reckon Struan would love it. Robin xxx _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE connection, FREE modem and one month's FREE line rental, plus a US or European flight when you sign up for BT Broadband! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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