September 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Things I like
by Barrett Ronan 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hello peeps, haven't posted in ages, but here are some things I like today: The way TARBYBUM sounds better with every listen. The accent of the girl who says "In A Town So Small....." on DD#2 That Fantasy B&S comp. Thanks Chris, even if my attempts to finish last were cruelly foiled by people even more stupid than me. The current groundswell of opinion that says "Simple Things" is the best song ever. Now if only it was 14 minutes long... That Salako single. That Divine Comedy album. That Keith has cleard up that Sting picture thing. For 3 days there, he didn't rule. Chickfactor. Why so low in the voting booth? I don't like those new t-shirts much though. Bring back the cartoon ones! Finally, David Publishing Person (I think) nominated DublinJoss for Monday's poem. I have a feeling he's about 2000 miles away at present, so he may not be able to make it. So if no-one volunteers over the weekend, you'll be getting a Simon Armitage poem from me on Monday. Byeeeee Ronan

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Sinister: JonG
by Chris 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

JonG only fifteen? And doing A-levels? Come join the sinister mailing list, home of child prodigies. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: group get together
by Gillian McKay 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

>soul weekends are quite sad affairs - the music is awful and bears no >resemblance to B&S - how about meeting at a scootering weekend with Sorry, think i didn't make it very clear! i meant a similar idea with different music! personally, i'm not a big soul fan but the program just happened to be on and it looked a good idea. >I think we should all meet up at a tacky, westworld like Butlins. >Bognor Regis this sounds great, we could take over the place for the weekend gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: jon g. takes a break to return to his computer.
by jon g. 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hey kids! I've just been sooo busy for two weeks, playing at a-levels and things. It was great fun. Finally checked the email yesterday and got swept away by a sea of messages. That was poetic wasn't it? Anyway, I think The Boy is just fab. But then I would. It's just how it happens. No complaints to make. Maybe I'm just a simpleton. Silly music journalists are really getting to me. Like the one in Select, who said that Stevie wrecked Seymour Stein by saying that he wasn't coming to dinner. He does not understand and then LIES! It's all LIES! The NME review of Sheperd's Bush was really stupid as well. That bloke just didn't get it really, did he? They're really getting on my nerves. I'm writing this from school! Does that excite you old people? 'How quaint' they all say. That's also why I'm so funny-sounding. I can't cope. I'm having a bad day. I've dropped my pencil case four times today! Does no-one understand what a terrible effect this has on a young boy? David Kitchen is just so write about indie shops and that. I appreciate being able to go into Fopp and buy the new album for �9.99. The people will smile and they don't have instore radio trying to sell me the latest all saints single. They sell vinyl too and it crackles nicely. I could have gone into HMV or Virgin and paid �13.99 and then get a frown from the till woman. Anyway, with the �4.00 I saved, I went to a nice second hand record shop and bought a lovely Simon & Garfunkl record. So there. I noticed the Virgin advertisement in the NME for The Boy. And, oh, how I laughed. The only thing they could write about was that they had sold 100,00 copies of If You're Feeling Sinister. Nothing else really mattered. This weeks NME reports that a lovely song called 'Floral Graffiti' can be found on The Acid House soundtrack. I hate music journalists more now. LIES! LIES! LIES! tee hee. Oh, I must introduce myself to the new people, as they often seem to introduce themselves to us. Hello. My name is jon g. There was a time when me and my partner in crime bethey could certainly say that we were the youngest on the list, except for Linda's goldfish. But now, I just don't now. Anyone younger than 15? What a contest. Anyway, must dash. It's almost time for.....double maths. Fun. 8) Till next time, jon g. jon.g(a)btinternet.com - http://surf.to/jongandbethey ps. hope honey hasn't started using security features on the list, cos otherwise this won't get through == jon.g(a)btinternet.com or jong_1998(a)yahoo.com http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Trouble and Strife
by Adrian Evans 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

PJ Miller wrote : >"never hurt a woman". Can anyone help? Peter, I am reliably informed that it definitely might not be "Margh...Marga....Whatever that cheese and tomato pizza is called Time". I in no way accept any responsibility for any bets lost, any failed relationships or come to think of it I've never accepted any responsibility in my life. Hope you not too ill and it can't be passed on over the net. Timothy Byker Byker Byker Groves....ooooooooooohed : >I think we should all meet up at a tacky, westworld like Butlins. Bognor Regis is like another planet. Bognor Regis is like another planet !!! Ha ! It's more like a fucking prison with extended fucking visiting hours. Ooooh excuse me, went off on one there...it's just that my Kate is stabled up in Bugger Bognor and I have come in frequent contact with said remand centre and have concerns that some of us might not be seen again. Who knows what goes on in the showers ? In fact Bognor Butlins is so notoriously shit that people pay hundreds of pounds a week to sit in the boot of their cars reading papers and staring at the fuck-off great rocks which now act as a sea-defence. Ooh my language is bad recently. Must dash....Jeeves ! Pass the f***ing olives. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Saucy Prize Post
by Chris Leonard 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Scrubber Miller: >Thirdly, I recently won the right to be saucy and irrelevant without any grumbling >form Honey aka Honey (there are new people on the list). >Here goes: >The curiously attractive cabin boy Christopher Alexander Leonard informs us that >Trousers has got a semi-stiffy at about ear height, but he leaves it at that. "Semi->stiify" is such a vague expression... >... >... It's hard for me. To remember, it was rubbery. Very nice indeed. I didn't look that closely cos I was giggling and jumping foot to foot, pointing at it whilst not really registering where I was or what I was doing.. Oon wasn't impressed. All those naked elephants walking about must taint a girls perception. It was definitely pointing up upwards but a bit flaccid at the end, like a melting submarine. But since he was sitting back it was kind of like the bath effect when it floats upwards with no effort. And without a bath. It's like you get two magnets, and magnetically float a squirming meat train. 6/10 Christopher Alexander Leonard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Athens Athens Athens!
by Steven Jay Goldman 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Heya fellow list people... Seeing how B&S are being so gracious as to hit the South on this whirlwind tour of the States, how about we greet them en masse by meeting up pre-show for a drink? I'm open to suggestions, since there may be some folks not old enough to partake. The Taco Stand is great for those strapped for cash, and Gyland's makes a mean quesadilla; the Bluebird is great vegetarian food, and The Grill...well...the Grill is just da bomb. Burgers and malts at their best. Any ideas? Forward them on to me, as well as letting me know who wants to make a gathering out of all this, and I can serve as the coordinator-of-sorts... On a few side notes, if you've never heard the Squirrel Nut Zippers (which seems a little unlikely by now), from what I hear, their new album blows the pants off of the swing/ska craze going on now with the bands like the Cherry Poppin' Daddies and Big Bad Voodoo Daddy. Apparently, a lot of critics panned it for taking their music in other directions than what fashion is dictating... Ah, well, I don't care, I'll still see them Saturday when they're in town... Also, anyone have a copy of the opening credits song from "The Greatest American Hero"? I've been thinking about that here and there, and it's getting maddening singing it to myself without ever getting to hear it... One last thing...for those of you either in Atlanta, or GOING to be in Atlanta before Halloween, Dad's Garage (a local theater company) is premiering "Cannibal! The Musical!" by Trey Parker and Matt Stone (the creators of South Park). Tickets are $12-$15, and it runs from Sept. 18th until Halloween night. It's a musical COMEDY about the only person to ever be convicted of cannibalism. According to the director, it's a bit like "Friday the 13th, Part II" meets "Oklahoma!", so make of that what you will. Email me for any of the above stuff, and keep it fuzzy, bunnies! --Steve mrswanky(a)hotmail.com http://tswww.cc.emory.edu/~sgold06/ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Squash pigs and music snobs ( and a really bad pun)
by kenny 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Hi ya all, I thought that it was my turn to add something to the arguement of the day, the advert of the day, the anti woolies campaign, and a new eagle/seagull twist; 1. I want to see B&S on TOTP, they want to be on TOTP ( just see the mini interview with Stevie in Select magazine beside the review). It will show everyone that I know, that I was right. I walked into college with IYFS on the day of release and put it on the common room stereo, and then it was promptly taken off and replaced by some "homie" (aka ganster rap) toss. They just didn't get it. Dog on wheels didn't work with them either. However it did convert my Grandparents, who thought it was lovely, and my grandmother then lost the plot a bit when she decided that it was the original music to the tv series. Lazy Jane started to work. They actually heard it on Radio 1, and realised I was a one man cult. And with 369 people really started to listen. La pastie had everyone in the room moving! Even my friends who like only dance music were impressed. And it entered the charts! B&S will always be "my" band, but I'm happy trying to spread the word to the deaf. So please stop being such boring museo snobs, be happy that you were there first, but also be happy that the band are reaching more people 2. On a much lighter note the pig was advertising Colemans mustard. And what is even funnier than this puppet pig singing, is the ending. It gets squashed by a giant jar of the stuff! 3. When are the 4 tracks that Isobel played on the Treehouse going to come out? 4. If Woolies won't take the same discount deals on the album as the other stores then Jeepster and those connected to the distribution of the record are right not to give into them. The only town I know of that Woolies is the only place to sell records, is Bexhill and everyone there is on death's doorstep. If need be, use mail order or the internet. Would you love me as a beagle, Would you love me till I'm dead Or is there someone else instead. (sorry had to try and end with a joke) Jake Ps My 15 year old sister hates all 3 albums so we are safe for now! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: TWATTYBUS review
by c hall 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Lars Ulrich, drummer for Metallica, has to be the crankiest musician alive (at least, he used to be). His trademark in interviews is to rip apart every band in the Western world, including metal ones. In fact, for a while there, I thought the only group he really liked was Diamond Head. (He actually went so far as to moonlight as liner-notes scribe for their Behold The Beginning retrospective.) And I seem to recall him saying that the video for REM's "Shiny Happy People" made him want to smash his television to pieces. Now, for some sick reason, I began to use Mr. Oilrig as a sort of music measuring tool -- as in, "Wow, Lars would really hate this song!" And then I got to thinking that it might be a fun idea to make a tape called "Songs That Would Probably Drive Lars Ulrich Fuckin' Bananas!" The list would include well, yes, "Shiny Happy People," but also Kate Bush's "Wuthering Heights," Madonna's "I'm Going Bananas," Roxanne Shante's "Roxanne's Revenge," DeBarge's "Be My Lady," Suede's "Sleeping Pills" and, most definitely, the Roches' "Ing." The point I'm trying to make here, is that music lovers often conceive of musical irritation or obnoxiousness or drawing lines in the sand as the province of brutish metallers, punkers or sometimes, if they thought hard enough about it, even gangsta rappers. Indeed, those are the very qualities so frequently cited in defense of the value of such music. But I'd like to posit that, while most of the above songs for Lars' tape have listeners that like to feel pretty and witty and gay, we shouldn't downplay their power to irritate the shit out of, say, a world-hating art student or a reality-obsessed Source reader. The shiniest, happiest song can produce as extreme an effect as the loudest, snottiest screed. How this relates to Belle and Sebastian is that I would definitely include "Judy and the Dream of Horses" (the last song off their breakthrough album, If You're Feeling Sinister) on Lars' tape. The title alone is enough to make me laugh out loud at how Lars wouldn't even give it the time of day. In fact, scanning the titles of a Belle and Sebastian album reminds me of paging through those Scholastic Weekly Reader catalogues that sold books like "Freckle Juice" and posters that read something like "Everyone Has Bad Days" and were adorned with pictures of kittens caught up in yarn. Regard: "Spaceboy Dream," "The Boy with the Arab Strap," "Simple Things," "The Rollercoaster Ride" and "Ease Your Feet Into The Sea," all of which are from the new album. If any band could set the silliest book title I've ever heard ("Frosty: A Raccoon To Remember") to music, it would be Belle and Sebastian. Of course, there are also titles like "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career," "Is It Wicked Not To Care" and "Dirty Dream #2," so I don't want to misrepresent the band. In fact, they rarely radiate a childlike cuteness the way Papas Fritas or Shonen Knife sometimes do. But their songs do access the quality of those obnoxious songs about clowns and whatnot with which your niece or nephew (or son or daughter) return from their first few weeks at kindergarten. Not in terms of content, but in their simple humability, their sheer insistence. Apart from a stray Shante or Missy Elliott rap, the songs of Belle and Sebastian are the only ones I teach to my friends who don't listen to music. Teach to sing, that is. I have no idea what Stuart Murdoch and company are singing about, and I'm not all that interested. Besides, my friends are only hip about hair and clothes, so I'd have no one with whom to discuss their content. The primary fascination Belle and Sebastian hold for me is that for all their verse-chorus-verses and rhyming stanzas, these aren't songs, but rather viruses. They're insidious carriers that get under your skin and infect your hum reflex. Symptoms include bobbing your head from side to side to the beat and doing Eddie Murphy's White People Dance. Usually, this menace is achieved by repeating lines with slight variations, making it easier to break down your immune system. From "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career": "Painting pines (vines?) in a school that was too well-known/ Painting pines with a friend that had gone before." From "Sleep The Clock Around": "It takes more than this to make sense of the day/ Yeah, it takes more than milk to get rid of the taste." From "Ease Your Feet Into The Sea": "Stay with us 'til we get old/ Stay with us 'til somebody decides to go." If you have the slightest weakness for their intimate, AM radio-influenced folk-pop, their tunes will barge into your life and paralyze your mouth into a Cheshire grin for the duration. (I happen to be in this deliriously happy category.) But, if all you see around you is ugliness, the catchiness will abrade like Chinese Water Torture. How's your forehead now, Lars? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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RE: Sinister: Boring post, sorry. Well I'm ILL you pooheads!
by PJMiller 18 Sep '98

18 Sep '98

Once, twice, three times a Sinister laydeee wrote: >La caza de amor es de altanería - Gil Vincente. > >Like I know what that means. The hunt of love is the...? Hunting for love is an aspect of falconry, I think, with a hint of arrogant disdain thrown in for good measure. That'll really impress the teacher. Ask him if he wants to see your jesses after class. You could also point out its remarkable similarity to the immortal line: "If I was a seagull, would you love me as an eagle" Stick with that book, it's a good one, well worth the effort. And it's "foretold", not "announced". Also, Steve, thank you for calling me sexy, it's true. But I only combine loads of answers together like that sometimes. For instance, if it weren't for this bit at the bottom, this would be a reply to one message only that only really concerns one person. Perhaps I'd better wait and see if anything else crops up before sending it... Well, nothing has cropped up, so here goes. Title still applies. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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