September 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Cover scans of "Tigermilk" - anyone?
by CHRISTIAN AAMODT 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

Hello there B&S-fans! Does anybody know where to find a scan of the original Tigermilk cover artwork? I would like to make a cover for my tape copy. Any help appreciated... -Christian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Aaah, Falkirk
by Sarah Wheeler 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

>When I lived in Falkirk, Woolworths was the only place I was really able to buy >records - apart from Sleeves, which was an "indie" record shop. I didn't like >that shop, the guy once laughed at me for buying "Remain in Light" by Talking >Heads. That'll be the Sleeves that Aidan Moffat [The Boy From (The) Arab Strap] worked in for countless numbers of years, and my flatmate's uncle Roy manages. Bye bye Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Angelic indie stores versus the evil big stores
by Keith Watson 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

>umm.... I take sort of serious issue with the following.... >I mean, supporting indie stores and all is great, yes, but the >unfortunate truth is that most Mom + Pop record stores don't exist >outside of major urban centers around the world anymore. Yes I'd agree with this one, it certainly seems unfair - plus Indie stores are just as into making money as major store, they simply each cater for their own market. Everyone I know who's worked in one of these shops has wound up hating it cause they thought they'd be into the music, and they're essentially into making money. Fopp and Missing certainly don't hide their Sting(*) albums in a corner somewhere, they're always there, smacking you in the face as soon as you enter the place. When I lived in Falkirk, Woolworths was the only place I was really able to buy records - apart from Sleeves, which was an "indie" record shop. I didn't like that shop, the guy once laughed at me for buying "Remain in Light" by Talking Heads. Another point is that by confining B+S records to purely indie stores, you are somewhat just preaching to the converted aren't you? I realise the intentions are good, but surely it'd be better if there was a B+S album in woolies rather than just another Colour me Badd album. Fopp for one have often forced me to go to HMV to buy albums. Last year I decided to upgrade my copy of Remain in Light (for the second time. 10 years ago in Sleeves I bought it on tape, 5 years ago I bought it from the great Professor Plastic second hand for 4 quid) to CD. It was like 14.99 in Fopp, and 11.99 in HMV. Bastards! I've now bought "Remain in Light" 3 times and the only time I got laughed at was in the indie shop! Evil bastards! Cheers, Keith. * One of my favourite ever album sleeve pictures is in one of Sting's recent albums, I think it's called "10 Summoner's Tales", and inside the booklet, Sting is picture riding a horse playing a Lute, whilst posing in a "thoughtful" manner +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: further RS revelations
by Corpora Arenacea 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

I hate to keep posting about this retarded book, but I thought this was relevant, sort of - the Average White Band were, in fact, Scottish. I'll have you know that that was a secret to me. And they named their second album 'AWB' a 'perfect album' (5*). Was there ever a secret scene of funky boogie in Scotland, of which the Average White Band was the proverbial shark's fin? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I could be relay-ing
by Sarah Wheeler 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

>I have another entry for a product that Jeepster can prepare for the day >when Belle and Sebastian are wholeheartedly ready to sell out. "Stars >of Track and Field" for the Playstation. Kids of all ages can pick >their favorite B&S band member and go head-to-head in a themed >decathalon..."Throw the Clock Around" (discus), "I Could Be Vaulting", >etc. Maybe a few other sports could be added, too: "We Rule the Pool", >"The Skate that I Am In", "Skeeting Other People", etc. Maybe I'll >start my own company. You'll find "Stars..." in the catalog in between >the stuffed, snow-covered foxes and B&S logo arab straps. Hahaha. I just hope it doesn't knacker the control pads the way Daley Thompson's Decathlon knackered my Commodore 64 joystick!! And my arm got dead sore as well! mmmm, if I reassure you that I am definitely a girl, does this remove the phallic nature of this mail?? Ok bye bye Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Flower Power
by Adrian Evans 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

Just bought NME. News In Brief : Belle & Sebastian, Primal Scream, The Chemical Brothers, Arab Strap and The Verve are among artists featured on the soundtrack of The Acid House...blah blah blah The soundtrack....features four previously unreleased songs from.......Belle and Sebastian (Floral Graffitti).....Que ???? Heinitz wrote : >pedal pushers are indeed the worst item of clothing ever, they look SO bad. >whoever it was suggested isobel was wearing them to fit in with the natives, >GRRRRRR. though not exactly an inhabitant of leeds, i'm not far away so i have >to feel slighted by that remark. I'm sorry, but if you want me to apologise properly you'll have to dress up in wellington boots with a Barbour and a flat cap and sing your frustrations in the style of the Wurzels. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Woolies' chart position
by Corpora Arenacea 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

umm.... I take sort of serious issue with the following.... I mean, supporting indie stores and all is great, yes, but the unfortunate truth is that most Mom + Pop record stores don't exist outside of major urban centers around the world anymore. In my hometown, in the United States, your only option to get any music AT ALL was to drive for an hour and a half to get to a Woolies-style establishment. Driving to an indie store takes anywhere between six and twelve hours round trip. In other words, not an option. Point being, Belle and Sebastian have made records that could not only conquer the world but bring a measure of unvarnished goodness into it, and I think the merchandising department's hobbling them is not only a sin but a darn shame. If love of music was what really drove your department you'd be selling your CD's at the price it cost you to manufacture them.... no? Of course not. I think that it would be wise to jump on every chance to get their music out there now, before their talent dries up and goes away and they become an embarrassment to their former selves like the Average White Band or something. Driving back to my hometown (nine hours each way) I put in "If You're Feeling Sinister" and my PearlJam/Dave Matthews-obsessed traveling partner was nearly in tears at having a whole new, better world revealed to him, joyous and unbelieving. This is no shit, brothers and sisters. With a "Fox In The Snow" He Was Healed. Anyhow. Nuff tirade. Get the word out. >> I needed some little plastic things that only Woolies sells, so I >> popped over there this lunchtime. <snip> I went >> over to the record section - <snip> to look at the Woolworth's Top 75 >> to find TW*TTYBUS at number...ermmm...it wasn't there at all! ><snip> > >when we were shipping out the pre-orders of the album a strange thing >came over us, a weird desire came over us to help the little indie >stores and to not give a shit about the big chains who hadn't stocked >b&s before and were now doing so just to make the moeny and not because >they cared for the music. > >so when woolies asked the distribution company for a similiarly >ludicrous discount that they get from EMI and Sony, (i.e. cheap and >include the album in a buy 2 get 38 free type offer!), we just told them >to go get screwed and pay the dealer price without whinging. > >we gave what discount we could afford to places like 'rough trade', >'fopp' and 'missing' who are all lovely stores and actually love the >music. > >woolies should've gone back on their decision to not buy any since we >hadn't given them discount, since we had got into the official charts. >but who cares if woolies have it or not - if you've yet to buy it or >need to buy more in the run up to christmas, then give your money to an >indie. go to 'rough trade' even if it means an extra bus ride or >something. > >when you buy an 'indie' record you help to support new music and a label >that trys to bring new music to you. but if you buy from a major store >then you're only helping them to dictate what you'll buy next through >supporting their policies - so buy through an 'indie' store too and help >support the outlets for the new music that's created. > >you know it's the right thing to do :) > >david kitchen > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: My god, I'm a fraud
by Mark Casarotto 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

David K said: "so buy through an 'indie' store too and help support the outlets for the new music that's created." You would say that now you've got into the charts...;-) I'm also concerned about my New York trip now. I go and buy the bloody tickets, then Peter reveals all about the hundreds of monsters roaming the streets! Belle and Sebastian are a band who must have literally dozens of fans unwilling to be eaten by dinosaurs - you'd have thought they would have been thoughtful enough to play somewhere where this wasn't an issue. Bugger me - I've just noticed that there are an extra 100 or so of you on the list who I'm sure weren't there last week - Paul, are you going to be able to keep everything shipshape and (indeed) Bristol fashion? And Rory, I just can't believe you had the nerve to ask Katrina round your place for a bit of "grouting" (I'm hip to the young person's lingo, too right I am); and in such a public manner too! She's a nice girl, and I'm sure is blushing furiously under her Audrey Hepburn-esque outfit (see previous posting on pedal pushers), just like she does if you say the word "bosoms" in her presence... Before I go, I'd like to point out that I don't actually own a cardie of any sort. I'll get me coat... Biondino xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: unreleased, unpopular, unfunny
by Reid 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

Adding to the "unreleased songs" list: > 1. London Has Let Me Down Again. > 2. Hurleys Having Dreams. > 3. Pocket-Book Angel. > 4. The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner. > 5. Tigermilk (instrumental). > 6. Modern Rock Song. > 7. Slow Graffiti. > 8. Rhoda. > 9. Wrong Love. > 10. I Know Where The Summer Goes. Thank's to Stuart M.'s post (btw., I can't think of many other lists where the main songwriter pipes in with a few thoughts), we can now add "Paper Boat" to this list. Or can we? None of us have heard it...Stuart singing? Should I be frightened? So that makes 11 unreleased songs, 6 of which I've heard. Putting my genius math skills to work, that's more than half. An exercise in futility, but here goes: If anyone could tape Loneliness, Rhoda and Summer for me, I'd truly appreciate it. Maybe that Stuart Murdoch can tape them for me since he's a newbie and therefore easily taken advantage of. One "Jess" said: > b&s are not as big as they should be here in the states. > Don't say that! If it comes true you'll be really sorry. Think of all the people you hate and imagine them saying, "Dude! Let's get drunk and listen to Aerosmith and Belle and Sebastian!" Is that really what you want? Is it? IS IT?! I have another entry for a product that Jeepster can prepare for the day when Belle and Sebastian are wholeheartedly ready to sell out. "Stars of Track and Field" for the Playstation. Kids of all ages can pick their favorite B&S band member and go head-to-head in a themed decathalon..."Throw the Clock Around" (discus), "I Could Be Vaulting", etc. Maybe a few other sports could be added, too: "We Rule the Pool", "The Skate that I Am In", "Skeeting Other People", etc. Maybe I'll start my own company. You'll find "Stars..." in the catalog in between the stuffed, snow-covered foxes and B&S logo arab straps. ~Reid -- "I told myself I'd head to someplace exotic, Portland maybe or Tacoma, Washington, but deep down I knew that once my bags were packed, I'd return to North Carolina." -David Sedaris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Drum-machine
by SpaceboyUK＠aol.com 16 Sep '98

16 Sep '98

on the pre-tigermilk demos and electronic renaisannce -those songs have drum machines or at least some sort of drum programming thing. im not sure about Sleep The Clock Around-that sounds like machines too. but no matter-man or machine- it still comes out as good -a.james. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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