baby chris sputters the following: GOTHS ARE PRICKS - I honestly believe this - they thing that by waering black and loving the devil that they are being individuals - the hell they yeah but--i have to interject here and say, though i'm not a goth (kinda like vegetarians, i wish i was, but i have to admit i'm not), all goths do not worship satan. the ones who do--well that's the pseudo-goth marilyn manson (MANSON IS NOT FUCKING GOTH!!!) or the really scary ones, and woh cares about them. some goths are just cool. i mean black looks good on ANYONE. it's a fabulous and spiritual color--comforting even. black is not evil, it's lovely and absolute. and yeah--some of the goth chicks are just too cute witht heir fishnets and silver jewelry and black lipstick. *ahhhh* some wisdom from the blessed twee defender, ian, follows::
i'll say nothing about isobel being covered in a thin coating of gelatin and put in a plastic container with a piece of cotton wool. --cor blimey, that's a good idea. you just supplied me with ample fantasy fodder for tonight's dream session. oh my dear god. that was funny.
no, i don't think they're reactionary. the insistence on a melody shouldn't be labelled as reactionary. or if it is, only in the sense that writing books in a recognisable language is reactionary. although they don't widen
and furthermore, on my new romantics suggestion: the scope of what can be defined as "music", and they aren't pushing back generic barriers (which frankly is a load of bollocks anyway i think you're correct. at some point it must be repeated--hell, shakespeare knew it way back then--nothing new under the sun. you can package it differently, but essentially you got rhythm, harmoney and melody. without that, it's not really "music". i thought about this before, like why do we have chords and scales and 4-count measures? you can go to 5 or 11 or 19 counts, but ultimately--it's repetition and structure that makes music. you can make random noise, but that's been done before too. you can't really re-invent the wheel as they say. and for what it's worth--i'm a sentimental bastard. i could give a damn if it's innovative. a Francoise Hardy tune is nothing revolutionary, but it can still make me cry like a baby. because it's emotion distilled into a little capsule, purely. which reminds me== the girl who mentioned the book about music bein gthe highest art form-- that's exactly the way i believe in. music is so vast and open in its associations. music can make you think a picture, a story, a dance, an emotion. it's rare that a picture can bring forth music. as much as i love pictures. but i think music is something even more primal. i dont know much about the "newromantics" proper, i mean duran duran, i have no clue about that. which says something in itself. are people worshiping Spandau Ballet anymore really? that reminds me, was Ultravox a new romantic band? i dont' know. i was more referring to romanticism in art. but thank you ian for the lovely conversation, it's nice to discuss these things, and yes, vanish up our own arses. that's the one thing in life i'm really really good at. There is nothign revolutionary. people look for something new. there's nothign new. peopel still make the same mistakes they made back in 2000 B.C. or before that. this is my point on the millenium. (by the way, the millenium does not even happen technically*?* until 2001 so tell your friends to stop fucking going crazy already) we're at the point that we have all this history behind us to go over, and so much to learn from that has gone before us. the only revolutionary calamity that the millenium will bring is the challenge to put all this knowledge together into something that finally works better. y2k is a joke. computers are garbage. dont' let them run your life. there is no fucking explosion and no Antichrist(sic). BOYCOTT THE MILLENIUM!!! i'm serious. it's getting on my nerves big time. we have LIVES to live. there's more to it than all that. it's a total sham. yes and i'll have my anti-milennial manifesto published in the new york times very soon. and remember, US kids, to set your vcrs tonight for politically incorrect starring Jarvis "superman" Cocker. it should be really amusing. i suppose all you brits are sick of seeing him on TV, but here in america we dont' get much of that. i didn't knwo there were so many gay boys on sinister. (alright rainbow power y'all!!) where are the big lesbo dykes?? i know there are at least two of us. maybe we can start the lambda sinister union association of gay belle and sebastian fans. hahahahaa LATERS LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange The boat that brings us here will crack beneath your weight. This is territory you cannot invade. "I'll go and play with words and pictures" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+