another day another dollar From: "ian" <ian@dimensionflip.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Sinister: muttering kites a musical version of saint john's wort? ugh. i had some of that once and it gave me stomach ache. you say isobel does the same thing? well, that's all i need to know. NO you silly monkey. isobel does not give you stomach ache. i've never taken st johns wort. all i know is it's sposedta make you fuzzy and happy. it probably doestn', but it's the thought that counts. and i CLEARLY said "or whatever" which, in that gen-x hipster moronic fashion, grants automatic er, flexibility to whatever it qualifies, leaving you free to withdraw anything stupid you may have said or anything you have doubts about, or if you're just too SOFT to make a flat statement boldly. anyway. isobel does not make sick. it makes you feel fuzzy, like sitting out on a grassy hill and making daisy chains and drawing pictures of horses. OR getting down to kinky love in a mirrored chevy van. either one. someone said Hesse should be read. i've only read uh DEMIAN, on recommendation of a pseudo-lady love of mine, but it was bloody amazing. bollocks. it's totally fabulous. that should be on our sinister reading club too. it will blow your mind. i hear Hesse is lumped witht he beat(off) generation, but i found nothing in common with bukowski or kerouac. very spiritual. or maybe he's supposed to have inspired the beats? well fuck the beats. i'm sorry, but really. the gatefold photo is angelic. we salute you elle*** for years of joy to come. lastly. i was remembering someone a while back in the olden days was asking what were the characteristics of b/s, or "tweepop" or indie fluff or something. i was thiking about b&s in conjunction with my art history class. i mean istn' it a bit like the Romantics reaction to Realism? all ovver again--which i think seems to be a natural cycle repeating--but a revolution against apparent materialism, concerns with economics, politics, brute realism and popular culture as it stands. the romantics and symbolists found emotion and esthetic more important than giving a moral message, or depicting in photographic/scientific reality--they preferred to draw from mythology, and simply make things that were exotic, splendid and beautiful to look at. someone might say it's morally empty---i dont 'see it like that at all. it's art for the sake of itself. a CREATED reality in the artiist's mind, rather than a copying of the material world---the meaning is created by the creation itself. (foreshadowing err, psychoanalysis etc??) Well i'm not saying belle and sebby are vapid. but these days--so much emphasis on cmoputers, and having messages, and conveying the brutality and nature of society. there's comment in their music certainly, but overall it just throws aside any seeking to be "modern" or avant-garde, or shocking. reactionary? i dont know. they're totally unselfconscious in sentimentality, and a lovely arrangement and melody for its own sense. without being too saccharine or rococo about it. maybe this makes no sense at all. i'm sorry i'm just rambling here. i have seomthign really funny to say(*!*) but it will wait till later. in more importatn news, i hear the aging hipster Jarvisssss is going to be on the TV program "politically incorrect" tomorrow late night on ABC in the US. can anyone er confirm this for me, or did i hear wrong? that should be a bash. take care my pretties LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange The boat that brings us here will crack beneath your weight. This is territory you cannot invade. "I'll go and play with words and pictures" SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+