Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:29:11 -0700 From: "Elish Hope" <ehope@nwmls.com> Subject: Sinister: Dreams...
Say what you like about Jeepster, about the Belle's, but don't expect me to sit idly by and listen.
With that, I throw my hat in the ring and wave my white flag. Please no more emails to me about the price of this and the price of that.
oh, that was me. sorry. i was trying to be informative but i came across as someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing...
I don't feel like I owe them anything, or whatever, I just don't see the sense in planning on Jeepster failing us and whatnot.
but a pessimist is never disappointed. that said, i nearly didn't go to bowlie after the less than thrilling london gig back in september. but that sunday night just after stevie had done his best pete townsend windmill arm action guitar playing it made me remember just why i started doing all this in the first place. and yeah, an optimist has a better time waiting...
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 18:21:21 +0100 From: CALLENDAR R <RACALLEN@glam.ac.uk> Subject: Sinister: Shyness is nice and shyness can stop you....
Just a brief note: I was under the impression that it costs under a pound to actually press a CD, and even after publicity costs, artwork e.t.c a CD that is MASS PRODUCED and sold for 1.99 can make money.
but, and it's a big but, with the distributer taking a cut and the record shop taking a cut the bands cut is pretty slim at the end of it all. i have friends in the distribution business and they're always talking about 3 for 1 deals (where a shop buys one copy of the new 1471 single, say, and gets given 2 free) and a piece in the guardian a while back said that woolworths virtually demands a 70% discount on anything they stock. it's a shady business. (andy then goes on to say how he thinks the future belongs to small labels promoting stuff themselves over the internet, selling things cheap and keeping costs down by blowing cdroms to order but it's all very dull so...) (further off topic: alan moore once said that he started his own publishing company (comics rather than records) when he realised that DC got a 90% share of the (enormous) sales of Watchmen for 'editing mistakes in'. i think a lot of record companies are similarly detrimental to a bands output. jeepster, i hear, have a fifty fifty deal with b&s so kudos to them for that) antje:
I bet you won't find "Tigermilk" at any recordshop in the UK for 8 pounds.
no, not anymore, but at the time that's all it cost. (and that was mail order from stow college rather than from a record shop. i did see copy in rough trade at the time for 10 pounds though.) i kept the envelope it came in too. how sad is that?
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:01:42 +0100 From: JJ <johnj@seahouses.u-net.com> Subject: Sinister: probably depends where you bought it
Perhaps. I agree with Dog on Wheels, but I paid 1.99 for the LLPJ eps (bought 3, for friends), 1.99 for 3,6,9 (bought 3, for friends), and MRS was a staggering 1.97 (bought 3, for friends) in Music Zone in the all-new singing and dancing Trafford Centre.
blimey. that'll teach me to live somewhere that lacks a decent independent record shop. couldn't move in the local virgin meagrestore for that new single with chocolate in the title, they must've had 300 copies of it, two entire racks full of the things (almost all of which were still there on thursday when i went in and seem destined for the bargain bin) but can i find the new isan single without having to travel the 35 miles into london? can i bugger.
It won't cost you 8 pounds, it'll cost 10.40 altogether if you work it all out. Mind you that's still better than HMV's smashing 13.99 (sale price, of course) or whatever they'll try and fleece you all for.
sorry, prices again, but the new luna lp is 16 quid in virgin here. i was aghast. and they wonder why mp3s are so popular... um, there's a little thing on channel 4 at the moment, the politically incorrect show i think it's called which brings together various people, half american and half english, that usually wouldn't appear on shows together. theme for the week has pretty much been cultural differences, y'know like that spat we had on the list a while ago. anyway, last night the english and the americans (michael moore, mark lamarr and someone else) came together in a united cause, one that i wholehearted agree with - to attack edwina curry. and it was the funniest thing i'd seen in ages. made me glad i didn't defenestrate the tv like i promised to on some other list... (hi lucy btw, didn't know you were on here too) ok, off to the shops to but a newspaper and a wonka's xploder bar. actually, the last twice i've bought two, one for me and one to send to my girlfriend and have ended up eating both of them. just like all those kinder eggs that 'rolled under the bed' and were never seen again around easter time. 8) irn bru: my girlfriend got her local import shop in LA to order some irn bru for her. it duely arrived but was made in canada rather than scotland. which is odd enough. but the canadian stuff also lacked the caffeine that the scottish version has in it. especially odd when you think of the north americans' obvious love of caffinated drinks (jolt cola anyone? 'only caffeine has more caffeine') andy x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+