November 1997 - Sinister

Sinister: An Ink(?) Polaroid
by Ricky HAGGETT 17 Nov '97

17 Nov '97

Thinking of Sarah's ink polaroid of rain and cars.. A creased photo of Ricky standing at the entrace to Euston Square Tube station as commutors pour around him into their busy lives. He is gazing through the smog and drizzle down Gower Street, towards college and normality, BT's Telecom Tower, well, towering above everything, cutting a swathe of gaudy colour through the hues of mottled grey like nothing else in sight. Ricky wears tatty jeans, the blue cartoon Belle and Sebastian t-shirt (that his girlfriend ordered him for his birthday from the web site at fantastically short notice - cheers), and a somewhat dejected expression. His hair is damp and he looks kinda like the boy on the t-shirt. He turns away from the rush of traffic, and trudges back down the stairs into the tube, turning his walkman up to drown the noise of trains. The intro to Photo Jenny glides effortlessly up into the street. Ricky (who is at college, a bit depressed, and who still thinks seventeen was a better age to be) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Elvis/Fakers
by Keith Watson 17 Nov '97

17 Nov '97

... has anyone else noticed that if you listen VERY VERY carefully to Elvis, you can hear the words to Fakers being sung after the intro and before the spoken word bit begins - as if the mics on the instruments are picking up some of the vocals, despite the fact that they've been dubbed out -- if you see what I mean. [Keith Watson] They've been playing A Century of Fakers for far longer than the concept of ink polaroids has been around - or at least certainly was made public, and certainly long before they ever played A Century of Elvis live. I'd have thought it'd have been Elvis that they would have played had it been the other way around. They were also both recorded at the same time. ps : T.Hopkins - hope you like the fancy formatting in this letter (noticed you're using MS Outlook as your mailer!) Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: freaky B&S occurence
by susannah 16 Nov '97

16 Nov '97

Two people off the mailing list bumped into each other on Friday evening purely by chance and here's the story. Does anyone remember the mail from the guy wanting the screenplay of the loneliness of the long distance runner from Foyles in London? Well, I said I'd have a look for him on my way home from work one day, so just before closing time I spent half an hour browsing through the Drama section, and if you've ever been to Foyles you'd know what a haphard system they have , and compounded with a VERY unhelpful assistant I was having a devil of a job trying to find it. I was just getting ready to give up, when this other customer appeared , passed a piece of paper to the assistant, who then pointed at me and said "we haven't got it , and SHE'S looking for the exact same thing" I looked at him and he looked at me, and I said "did you get it off the mailing list?" to which he replied "Belle and Sebastian?" then he added " I'm Steve (Trouss) and who are you?" As soon as I said my name was Susannah, he said "did you really mock up those covers?" referring to the post I sent earlier this week , and I had visions of him, and everyone else in the shop imagining me doing Tigermilk, so I went really red and couldn't think of anything to say after that. He wouldn't let it lie though, and mentioned it a good two or three times. Well, we got kicked out of the shop, and I was JUST about to ask him if he wanted to go for a quick drink , when I got all flustered and ran all the way to the bus stop. So, Steve, I've mailed you also, but I apologise for seeming so rude. That's all. Susannahxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: some content for once
by J Jackson 16 Nov '97

16 Nov '97

Hullo! I might have asked this once before, can't remember if anyone replied to it though, could have been on the coollist version of this.. the name Belle and Sebastian, I know everyone goes on about that kids tv show from the seventies etc etc But I am sure that when they did a Mark Radcliffe session last year one of them said that the name comes from Beauty and the Beast, the two leading characters in that being Belle (the Beauty) and Sebastian (the Beast, obviously). Anyone else heard this or did I make this up? There, some completely relevant B&S content at last. JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: "It's never too late to have a second childhood"
by mctag＠mcmail.com 16 Nov '97

16 Nov '97

It's funny, this whole pop music/adolescence thing. Obviously there's a world of difference between 'growing up' and 'growing old', and to some extent between 'childish' and 'childlike'. I'll accept growing up, I'll accept having to work, pay bills, keeping the house OK, the whole package of adulthood. What I'll refuse to accept until the day I die, is this idea of certain things being out of bounds once you're 25. Things you're supposed to do - buying state-of-the-art hi-fi, when you only have Chris de Burgh records. I'm not on a trail to recapture my lost youth, I'm still living it, every week brings a whole bunch of new records to hear, to buy, to drown myself in and I don't think that feeling will ever go away. It's the whole death of enthusiasm, I simply can't accept. I don't feel 16, I don't feel 46. I just feel alive. Three little anecdotes leap to mind: 1 My father read 'Catcher in the Rye' when he was 48. He loved it. 2 Talking to my cousin from Perth (aged 18) at my sister's wedding and asking him what sort of music he liked. 'Aww, you won't have heard of them, they're called Belle and Sebastian'. When I said 'Oh I love them', he was astonished 'but you're 30, you should be listening to jazz'. 3 Working away for a week with an ex-Navy captain, going out for a beer with him and him talking about opera, an art form that leaves me cold, frankly, and being enraptured by this middle aged guy's enthusiasm for the music he loved. I don't know why I mention these things, they just seemed relevant. I'm off to see the Pastels, cheerio Love Tag xxx PS And for those who you don't see the link between football and Belle and Sebastian, someone I know, a devoted Port Vale fan, got, for his birthday, a photo of Vale scoring, with the lyrics to 'Like Dylan and the Movies' emblazoned over the top. 'You're worth the trouble and you're worth the pain...I will love you over'. And even though they beat us last week, it is still a beautiful and heartfelt thing.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: [Fwd: Indie Pop Sound Scans]
by Aadam <curator-House Of Precarious Stacks> 15 Nov '97

15 Nov '97

I pulled this off the indiepop list. Surprised? I am. It's a third the amount Stereolab has sold, and they're doing pretty well on their tour with nine people on the bus. I guess it's just a matter of getting label support [and getting them out of the house :) ]. TweeKid(a)aol.com wrote: > > As I have done from time to time, for no reason but to pass on the > information, here are the most recent sound scan numbers on some of our > favorit releases. Sound Scans are based on sales in American only and > generally from major stores like Tower, HMV, Coconuts you get the idea chain > stores and a limited number of small "mom and pops". > (snip) > Belle & Sebastian "If You're Feeling Sinister" 9,769 (slice) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Dog on Wheels
by TFertig3＠aol.com 15 Nov '97

15 Nov '97

I was just visiting my sister in NY and i bought Dog on Wheels at Other Music! It is really good, but no where near as good as Sinister. I like Dog on Wheels the best, and then String Bean Jean. They only had Dog on Wheels and Sinister, though. I thought I would have to decide between 3, 6, 9, lazy Line Painter jane, and Dog on Wheels. Oh well. I'm happy! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER: this is frustrating
by LilWhirl＠aol.com 15 Nov '97

15 Nov '97

In a message dated 97-11-11 06:57:12 EST, it was written: << I heard a conversation in a CD shop recently to the effect that a radio station in Danbury CT, USA had a vinyl copy of Tigermilk -- when this woman went in to tape it, it was missing from where it had been the week before. So we can assume there is a person of dubious honesty with a copy somewhere in Connecticut. >> this is true of a number of stations -- my alma mater also had the exact same theft over the summer. at least i got to tape and play it over the air prior to my departure.... honestly i think this attempt to locate copies of this record by nitpicking is giving me a headache. not that the obsession is unjustifiable... dina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: re: old chaps and their tastes
by Hopkins T 15 Nov '97

15 Nov '97

Andrew wrote: > no, that was alistair > and paul both of whom belong to the list's old people > brigade so you should take what they say with a pinch of > salt if you're one of the youngsters. the older people here, > as i've pointed out before, have strange(r) tastes in music. > i have big theories about this but someone's already had a > go at me for mentioning it so i'll keep them to myself. and > yeah, listening to things more is always helpful. > > And I say: No, no, please tell us what your theory is! I guess I qualify as middle aged in this list's terms (being three years or so short of the duke's venerable tally (dotage? no...), but I guess I qualify as one of the strange(r) musical tastes lot. 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Sinister: Observations2 - The Explanation
by Richard Banner 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

In reference to my last email...... I don't want to dig a hole for myself.... i do feel that a lot of what i said was harsh and looking back i recognise this. The reason i sent 'that' mail to the list was because i was fed up of reading through masses of mail (not just B+S) and finding little of interest. Ok it was a bad day but i recognise that like some have commented i should have got ready with my delete button. I do feel however that some form of 'header' identifying mail content would be useful. Any ideas anyone? I don't just want pure B+S facts(i know that would be painful) but i'm sure some can agree that a lot of the mail is not always for them and this is why i mention maybe the use of headers. Further apologies, don't want to offend but i had a shitty day and shouldn't have taken it out on the list. Rich Oh and by the way i have nothing against Manchester or the North. The question 'Why Manchester?' could have simply been 'Why not Liverpool? or Why not Carlisle? I was just curious. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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