November 1997 - Sinister

Sinister: Fever Pitch!
by stephen troussé 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

Blimey! There I was going along to Salon online magazine (www.salonmagazine.com) for my weekly fix of Camille Paglia's advice column, when who should I come across raving about our favourite pop-kids, but Nick Hornby! I've attached the full piece for the benefit of those of you without browsers... it's a bit long, and he takes a while to get around to B&S, but it's a lovely review. I might even read one of his books now.. Gosh, but Britain's got loud all of a sudden. You can hardly hear yourself think at the moment, amidst the sounds of crashing and banging and weeping and wailing and self-proclamation and accusation and electric guitars. The noise started on May 1st, when Tony Blair was elected Prime Minister: Blair's landslide victory changed the national mood literally overnight. The raucous celebrations lasted well into the summer, and even Britain's notoriously conservative national press -- somewhat perversely, given how much work they had put in to preserve John Major's exhausted, deeply unpopular and increasingly sleazy party -- started tapping its toes discreetly in the corner, like moms and dads at the end of rock'n'roll films. Blair's approval rating shot through the roof, and Britain suddenly discovered that, contrary to all our suspicions, we were a young country, brimful of talent and vision and energy. Those of us who had got used to the idea that we were an awful, senile country, full of reactionary old farts who hadn't read a novel in 30 years and who still disapproved of the length of Ringo's hair, couldn't take the pace. By July, I felt like I wanted to stop partying and go and have a sit-down. But there was no let-up. Our cricket and football teams began the summer by winning handsomely and unexpectedly, victories for which Tony Blair seemed obscurely responsible -- something to do with young people being better than old people at sports, presumably. The Oasis album came out amidst a great deal of ear-splitting ballyhoo, and Noel Gallagher was one of the first to be invited to 10 Downing Street for one of Blair's occasional artsy parties, another indication of fundamental change: The only rock 'n' roller that the previous administration had been able to invite to parties was Andew Lloyd Webber. (Lloyd Webber, incidentally, made vague threats about leaving the country in the event of a Labour victory, a threat that may well have been responsible for the size of Blair's majority, but scandalously he never went anywhere, as far as we know.) And then, of course, there was the Diana thing, about which there is only one observation I wish to make here: Whatever else it was or wasn't, it was certainly loud. Sometimes you get the impression that we have turned ourselves into one huge braying mob, bursting with nervous energy and Adrenalin, looking for an excuse to make even more noise than we are already making. Recently, as another Salon correspondent noted, it was poor Louise Woodward who got the treatment. I've been listening to Belle and Sebastian, a ramshackle, cute and only occasionally fey folk-pop band who have spent the summer releasing four-track EPs with quirky names and classy sleeves: "Dog On Wheels," "Lazy Line-Painter Jane," "3, 6, 9 Seconds of Light." Belle and Sebastian have not, as far as I am aware, described themselves as "the best fooking (sic) band in the world," unlike the rest of their peers, and nor should they: A recent sold-out show I saw in London was a shambles, and to this member of the audience an irritating, as opposed to adorable, shambles. One of the support acts was a rambling and very drunk poet, and the boys and girls themselves took their own sweet time tuning up and messing about between each number. It took a good five minutes before they deigned to play anything at all. But quirkiness is a much rarer commodity in this new, brash Britain than it was. We used to be rather good at it -- generally, we took the view that if we couldn't compete with the Yanks properly, then we'd refuse to play the game by acting daft. This new Brit feistiness, however, has meant that everyone wants a shot at the mainstream: Self-confidence is in, and self-deprecating charm is out -- almost. Luckily, Belle and Sebastian have charm in glorious abundance, and "A Century of Elvis," the last track on the new "Lazy Line-Painter Jane" EP, is surely the most charmed you'll be all year. "A Century of Elvis" is in effect a short story, spoken in broad Scottish over a gorgeous, aching, jingle-jangle guitar and a couple of tootling organ notes; the story is about a period in the narrator's life when Elvis -- the very famous one -- visited him in his flat every evening. It's one of those rare pieces of work that you love partly because you have no idea where it came from: I haven't heard much recently that describes Elvis poking around a post office van, apparently contemplating whether to drive it away. It's the accumulation of detail that makes the track -- there's actually some deceptively fine writing going on here, although the band probably wouldn't thank me for pointing it out. In one passage the narrator wonders whether it was Elvis' love for squirrels that attracted him to their particular leafy suburb; another concerns the great man's impassive consumption of a video entitled the 'The E-Files," about unlikely Presley sightings. You end up smiling at the simple joy taken in picking up an idea and running with it -- if you can make anything out in the mix, which is, needless to say, pretty crappy. Oh, and if you love the tune but get tired of the story, the jingle-jangle is recycled for "A Century of Fakers," the song that kicks off "3, 6, 9 Seconds of Light." Maybe you have to be living here to appreciate just how welcome this kind of egoless homecooked whimsy is at the moment, but if you've heard the Oasis album, or seen the mass Disteria on TV, you can probably guess. Me, I'm going to sit the New Britain out with a couple of Belle and Sebastian EPs and a good book; it won't be long before we turn back into ourselves again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Tigermilk Spotting
by Matthew A. Neimark 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

While Engineering for London Calling, British music radio show on WMBR Cambridge, one of the pledgers from West Newton MA said he picked up a copy in London last December. Doesn't know shit about when it was released though. Was trying to explain to me how they released it four years ago. Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: People covering B&S
by Paige Rosella 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

I have heard, through the grapevine, that the boy from Holiday who is playing solo does a cover of "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying." My friend, JimB and I think that's scandalous, that singing the line "nobody writes them like they used to/so it might as well be me" is somehow wrong. Maybe that's just my feelings about Holiday (sleep-ING) shining through. Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: People covering B&S
by Angelina.DeGiovanni＠v2music.com 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

I saw him perform the song last winter at The Fez in New York opening up for either The Divine Comedy, Momus, or the Magnetic Fields- I can't remember exactly. It was before IYFS came out domestically on the Enclave, so I think only a few knew the orginial B&S version. It was nowhere near as good as the b&s version, but it was so nice just to hear the song at a show. (Embedded image moved prosella @ grovestocktn.com to file: 11/14/97 09:29 AM PIC24158.PCX) Please respond to prosella(a)grovestocktn.com To: sinister(a)majordomo.net cc: (bcc: Angelina DeGiovanni/New_York/V2 Music) Subject: Sinister: People covering B&S I have heard, through the grapevine, that the boy from Holiday who is playing solo does a cover of "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying." My friend, JimB and I think that's scandalous, that singing the line "nobody writes them like they used to/so it might as well be me" is somehow wrong. Maybe that's just my feelings about Holiday (sleep-ING) shining through. Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. 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RE: Sinister: pop life, sixteen, a little footy and meerkats
by Hopkins T 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

> the duke wrote: > what i do mind is people who will only endlessly > consume the facts of belle and sebastian, that are > concerned with hearing only about product and what > songs they played at such and such a show and what > did stuart say between songs? all interesting > stuff, perhaps (but only perhaps), but for me, > what REALLY makes me smile and gush about the > appeal of belle and sebastian is the way in which > people are here openly displaying to us something > of THEIR lives, of the ways in which this Pop has > touched them, moved them, informed and deformed > the ways in which their moments pass. > [HopkinsT] It's pop's great unsolved paradox. Those amongst us whose lives are tied up and turned inside out by pop, who love it for itself and for what it does on a personal level and who use it as some kind of abstract yardstick to judge what's right and wrong in the wider world (and there are those of us who do), those amongst us know the power of pop. But we also know that we are consumers and customers, that pop is there as a part of, and because of (and also in spite of) what makes the world such a crap place so much of the time. That pop can turn us against what it draws us into. And that it tells us what it's doing. I'm not saying pop can replace politics. Plainly it can't. But my politics are, and have always been, informed by pop. By the rush of freedom and expression which I felt when I was sixteen and which even now Belle and Sebastian give me... >In a pub once Tim suggested that all Great Pop is written from the perspective of being 16. Not that all Great Pop was ABOUT being 16, but rather that it encompassed a certain sense of excitement and tremulous anticipation that the IDEA of being 16 conjures in us. [HopkinsT] Ah, the pub conversation, the highest form of discourse known to humanity, eh duke? One of my hobbies has long been to draw up definitions of what is pop and what is rock. This is one of my favourites. If it doesn't address (in some way) the matter of being, feeling, sixteen, it ain't pop. It's something else. Rock, often, but not always. Because pop opens for us such a sense of possibility, such an opportuntiy for re-inventing and re-understanding ourselves, and sixteen is (arbitrarily) an age when those possibilities are (should be?) there in our lives, before we get tied down too far into personal history and so on. At sixteen, I felt life whistling along at an amazing pace, wanted to catch it in my hands just for a moment, like you want to catch a popsong, when shit's proper. Excuse me, enough confessionals. Anyone travelling further than me to see a game of football this weekend? I'm going 300-350 miles for Exeter vs Northampton. Yep, duke, some early Wolfhounds records were sleeved by the Meerkats (and 'Cruelty' had another cute big-eared beastie on it, didn't it?), and very lovely they were. Cheerio all who've had the endurance to get this far. 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Re: Sinister: swapping......
by Eeyore 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

Eeyore wrote: >> Talking of swapping, I have a (the?) Bis record which I can't seem to get >> rid of in a profitable way. Anyone got anything to offer in return? Rod Begbie wrote: >Which one? AFAIK, the "rare" Transmissions On A Teen-C Tip is fairly easy >to come by. I got mine for three quid. And it's shite. The version of >Kill Yr Boyfriend has Manda Rin trying to sing, instead of just squeaking >like she normally does. I dunno! Just the proper album of Bis (there is only one, isn't there?), I've forgotten what it's called. I've listened to it, what, maybe three times? But I guess if you've got all that stuff you've already got it. Ne'er mind. Oh, and I once saw Manda and Sci-Fi Steve stuffing themselves in a Dutch chippy across the road from the venue where they had played the first night of a two-night festival. All they did that second night was sit in that chippy and eat..... no wonder Manda's so chubby! Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: NB&SC - Ringstaartmaki
by Nigel Turner 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

>Thankyou! I have looked in on the B&S-and-Lemurs page to see what it was like, and although I could not be connected to the B&S part I now know what them beasts are! I've seen them in the zoo! Only here in Holland they are called "Ringstaartmaki". Not that you wanted to know..... Eeyore, is that Dutch for "Ring-tailed-lemur", or just a generic name for lemurs? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: swapping......
by Eeyore 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

Talking of swapping, I have a (the?) Bis record which I can't seem to get rid of in a profitable way. Anyone got anything to offer in return? Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Observations of the obvious kind
by Eeyore 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

At 07:54 PM 11/13/97 +0000, you wrote: >> Remember this list is about BELLE + >> SEBASTIAN!!!! > the duke: >and herein lies the eternal Pop dilemma: for what >purposes do you use Pop? for what purpose do you >use Belle & Sebastian? me, i'm a firm believer in >the concept of Pop as personal life informant, >reflector, enabler, distorter and lover. and >probably a load of other things too. See i don't >think belle & sebastian are about music. i don't >understand music at all. in fact i might go so >far as to say i hate music, and it's here where i >doubtless fall foul of many people, including i >don't doubt all those members of the band who just >love the bloody stuff and who witter on about the >music saying everything it needs to and then >shutting up. actually i don't mind that so much, >what i do mind is people who will only endlessly >consume the facts of belle and sebastian, that are >concerned with hearing only about product and what >songs they played at such and such a show and what >did stuart say between songs? all interesting >stuff, perhaps (but only perhaps), but for me, >what REALLY makes me smile and gush about the >appeal of belle and sebastian is the way in which >people are here openly displaying to us something >of THEIR lives, of the ways in which this Pop has >touched them, moved them, informed and deformed >the ways in which their moments pass. > >long may you prosper. (although a few less posts >about lemurs would be good... oh and who mentioned >meerkats? the wolfhounds production team were >called the meerkats, were they not? Tim?) > >love and slobbering kisses to anyone who deserves >it. Hear, hear! Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Re: Lemurs
by Eeyore 14 Nov '97

14 Nov '97

>> I cannot find the address of this B&S plus lemurs page anymore. >> Could someone give it to me? I am extremely bored at work today. >> >> Sven > >The address you are after is: >*** http://www.reepham.demon.co.uk/index.htm *** > >So there you go! > >Rob Thankyou! I have looked in on the B&S-and-Lemurs page to see what it was like, and although I could not be connected to the B&S part I now know what them beasts are! I've seen them in the zoo! Only here in Holland they are called "Ringstaartmaki". Not that you wanted to know..... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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