September 1997 - Sinister

Re: Sinister: people at NYC shows
by SecretLP＠aol.com 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

greetings! I too was at the taping on friday and the show sunday night! was everyone on this list there?? seems like a high percentage of us at any rate! at the taping i was sitting behind the guitar amp stage right - between mathew kaplan superstar (you know-helen love's lawyer - they wrote a song about him) and dominique of ny band ivy - ivy has a new record out in usa oct 7 - and it is absolutely fabulous and sure to rate right up there with sinister as best records of 97!! please give it a listen if you get the chance - it features dean wareham and james iha on a couple of tracks... but i digress - i was also the fella who sheepishly pulled out my sinister LP for stuart to read off of - kind of embarrassing but they autographed it with lovely sentiment afterwards... so, well worth the bother of carting it around! As for the performances - nothing short of fantastic! While very nervous at the taping they still gave lovely renditions even with the occaisional goof - they are, after all, human and you can certainly here a few strained moments on the records too - and i feel leaving those moments on the record, rather than overdubbing to perfection is part of the open, honest approach which makes them so appealing. on sunday they were certainly more confident - and since it was technically not a cmj showcase show the pressure was off and they could just play - excellent performance despite the sauna like heat and humidity - a real endurance test at the end of the cmj marathon! i am curious as to what bands others on the list saw during the cmj week - anyone care to share? and for those who don't know - the cmj music marathon is a once a year event where 300 or so bands converge on nyc to play over four days for assembled college radio types and other industry fringe persona from all over the usa- you can never see all you want to! as for myself, i had to drive an hour in and out of the city, work in the shop then do it again for five days - ouch! - so the marathon aspect is certainly close to home - here is what i was able to see: snowpony, wannadies,belle & sebastion, high llamas, doktor kosmos, linoleum, scarfo, magoo, mulu, beth orton & finally belle & sebastion again! imagine if i stayed in new york how many more i could have seen.... well i hope i have not bored anyone - take care all ! chris(a)secretsounds.com ps - i am coming to london oct 1st - 6th - can anyone reccomend any good shows at that time!? - looks like i am already planing to see helen love/yatsura on the 2nd(my birthday- i will be 41!!can anyone on here top that age?) and sukia/stereolab on the 4th ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: more nyc shows babble
by ByTheSea6＠aol.com 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

Firstly, the surprise, ( but not too surprising, for we knew after their Peel Sessions that they were great) of the week was the Delgados at the Merc on Saturday night. This band is sensational and if they continue to develop the flute/strings ideas that they showed off there, their next record is gonna amaze. Of the three B&S shows (PBS and two at the temple), Sunday's set and the PBS show set were quite similar. Saturday's set was shorter than Sunday's, but songs included Judy, State I Am In, Seymour Stein, Get Me Away From Here, and the VU's What Goes On, which included the 30 seconds of magic where Stevie babbled about being in NYC and doing the song for that reason, the Stuart saying, but Stevie, i am the singer, so why are you talking so much, then Stevie calling Stuart a "fuckin' cunt," then the bandgoing into the song full force, Steviesinging, and Stuart taking off his guitar and dancing for the first half of the song. It was brilliant. It was groovy. Stevie play guitar like he's in a 6tees soul band. And finally we caught the Pastels/Autumn Leaves/Delgados/Orange Peels/HoneyBunch show in Boston last night, and though we were close to death for both the drive up and down from NYC, it was well worth it. Delgados were just as thrilling w/out the strings, Autumn Leavesare a unique 6tees pysch-pop foursome from the Twin Cities with total grace and style on stage-new album on Grimsey out in the very near future so look for it-and the Pastels closed it out with a set that included Over my Shoulder and Through Your Heart. B&S review in the NY Times today. yours, bts ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: (BIG!) New York Times show review
by Skreddy56＠aol.com 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

Hello there! Here's the Times review of the B+S show on Sunday. Sorry if this took too long to load up, or if someone else has already sent it to you. Enjoy! --Matt Good music doesn't always come to you. Sometimes you have to find it yourself, without radio, MTV, major record chains and magazines. But somehow, in Manhattan, quality in pop and rock usually doesn't go unheralded. Concerts by two new, promising and little-known British acts, Beth Orton (on Saturday night at the Westbeth Theater) and Belle and Sebastian (on Sunday night at the Angel Orensanz Foundation on the Lower East Side), were filled to capacity with admiring fans, most of whom had discovered these artists via word of mouth. Unlike Oasis, Blur and other bands playing Brit-pop, Ms. Orton and Belle and Sebastian played light, airy Brit-folk characterized more by shyness than brashness. Softness, plainness and sensitivity were not signs of weakness but goals to be pursued in songs chiseled out of delicate arrangements and smart, perceptive lyrics. Self-effacing onstage, both acts seemed embarrassed when the audience applauded at the beginning of a song it recognized. Both also consisted of eight-piece ensembles that weren't afraid to destabilize the folk songs with touches of punk-rock and electronic dance-music. At the same time, each song would have sounded just as good performed by one person on an acoustic guitar. Ms. Orton dedicated "I Wish I Never Saw the Sunshine" to Diana, Princess of Wales, softly intoning such moving lyrics as "If I never saw the sunshine, baby, then maybe I wouldn't mind the rain." As soon as she was finished, she added a punk-rock editorial, exclaiming, "Fascist regime!" a quote from the Sex Pistols' anarchist version of "God Save the Queen." "I'm not a royalist," she explained, "but I am a humanist." On her album, "Trailer Park" (Heavenly), Ms. Orton sounds like Tim Buckley or Nick Drake updated as an experimental trip-hop act. But in concert, Ms. Orton sounded more traditional, like an underground version of Jewel. A child of the 70's with a tender touch on guitar and a beautiful voice fading on this last night of her American tour, she backed her songs with cello, violin, drums, percussion, guitar and bass. In songs like "Galaxy of Emptiness" and "She Cries Your Name," her lyrics examined the whole of the universe and the entire landscape of the mind and found nothing but loneliness. Though just as introverted, the Scottish ensemble Belle and Sebastian was more of an anomaly. Its members appear to be lazy, unambitious bumblers full of private jokes they're too sleepy to share. Members forgot lyrics, fell out of rhythm, lost their place during melodies and took long pauses to switch instruments. During one break, they asked an audience member for help in lowering the microphone stand. But somehow, the songs sounded meticulous and exquisite, with Stuart Murdoch singing in a shy, sweet voice buoyed by a loosely knit cushion of guitars, violin, cello, brass, drums and keyboards. The approach was best summed up in lyrics from one of its albums, "Nobody writes them like they used to/So it may as well be me." Though there is nary a low point on its excellent second album, "If You're Feeling Sinister" (Jeepster/The Enclave), or its even newer singles, Belle and Sebastian performed mostly unreleased songs. Its lyrics looked at characters like a woman modeling the Velvet Underground in clay, a runner who breaks hearts and lots of people in boring jobs with active fantasy lives. Its knack was for simple storytelling, with each lyric thinly veiling a world as lonely as Ms. Orton's. "Could I write a piece about you now that you've made it?" Mr. Murdoch sang in his winsome, genteel voice in the song about the runner. "About the hours spent, the emptiness in your training/You only did it so that you could wear/Your terry underwear/ And feel the city air/Run past your body." After an hour of watching the concert, fans may have loved the band, but they still didn't understand it. "You're so very quiet," Mr. Murdoch told the audience. When the crowd responded by cheering, he raised a hand and meekly tried to stop them. "No," he explained, "we like that." Copyright 1997 The New York Times ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: NYC shows
by leslie.chinea＠emimusic.com 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

Hey, I was at the taping, as well both Angel Orensanz shows! At the taping I was sitting right behind the drummer, Richard. Hey Francisco and you had the best seats in the house!!! Leslie. ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Re: Sinister: NYC shows Author: Francisco Alberto Wong <faw1(a)columbia.edu> at X-MAIL Date: 9/9/97 7:09 PM > Just out of curiosity, how many of us were at the NYC shows? I was at the TV > taping (by the piano) and the Sunday night show... > Anyone else? > Paige Uh, I was there. I was the nerdy asian kid sitting in the very front. Yeah, that was me that the host pointed out as having found out about the taping "from the website". Sigh. it was nice that they played mostly new songs. francisco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from server1.emimusic.com (193.122.8.130) by imailgp.xx.emimusic.com with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 0001B6E6; Wed, 10 Sep 97 00:52:57 +0100 Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk [129.215.72.230]) by server1.emimusic.com with SMTP id AAA24567 for <leslie.chinea(a)emimusic.com> (2.1.1h-8.8.5/3.1.17); Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:45:44 GMT Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA19907 for sinister-outgoing; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:08:50 +0100 Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (cu56193(a)sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.35.136]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id AAA19903 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Wed, 10 Sep 1997 00:08:45 +0100 Received: from localhost (faw1@localhost) by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA07392; Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:09:04 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:09:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Alberto Wong <faw1(a)columbia.edu> To: MPRVixen(a)aol.com cc: sinister(a)majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: NYC shows In-Reply-To: <970908223238_-1802640221(a)emout11.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95L.970909190711.7106A-100000(a)sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Francisco Alberto Wong <faw1(a)columbia.edu>

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by John Stuart 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

>Yes, they're on all this week. Last night there was a new version of >LLPJ, without Monica wailing all over the place, which made a nice >change. There'll be tracks on each of the next three nights, sometime >between 6.30 and 8.30 (last night it was just after 8). AAAAAHHHHH!!!! Has anybody in Edinburgh recorded last nights song? Any chance of droping a copy off to me (in Princes Street) some time? I'd be very grateful and I've got a load of unreleased b&s tracks I could give in return. Cheers, John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Other covers
by Keith Watson 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

Figured perhaps they could record "Candle in the Wind" - this'd be a surefire number 1 in the current climate. Either that or plumb some other shit song about Diana just like Chris de Burgh's done and go for broke - looks like we'll be stuck with this at least well into next year. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by John Stuart 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

>B and S tracks on the Evening Session next week Mon - Thurs Are these still on this week, or have they been moved forward with the release date of the new ep? Was there anything on last night? Cheers, John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: covers
by OLDSCHREC＠aol.com 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

In a message dated 9/9/97 8:12:55 AM, you wrote: <<It started me thinking which songs B&S would (hypothetically) do good cover versions of>> I wouldn't mind hearing B&S cover "The Soul Of My Suit" by T.Rex Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: RE:
by Stuart Gardiner 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

>>B and S tracks on the Evening Session next week Mon - Thurs > >Are these still on this week, or have they been moved forward with the >release date of the new ep? Was there anything on last night? > >Cheers, > > >John S. Yes, they're on all this week. Last night there was a new version of LLPJ, without Monica wailing all over the place, which made a nice change. There'll be tracks on each of the next three nights, sometime between 6.30 and 8.30 (last night it was just after 8). When is the EP coming out now? Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: B&S Enlighten New York
by leslie.chinea＠emimusic.com 09 Sep '97

09 Sep '97

Attenzione! Attenzione! Belle & Sebastian are the tawk of New Yawk this week!!! This precious collective kicked the ass of everyone who got to see them at the PBS Tapings on West 54th Street and the Angel Orensanz Center. Understandably, they were visibly nervous at their first live performance in the States. The audience was seated around the band that consisted of 8 people, the 8th member being Mick the horn player (who looked like he was about 10 years old). Stuart Murdoch leader and lead vocalist is the oldest at 24 years old. He looks like an androgynous, younger Richard Butler. There are 2 girls in the group the violinist and Isobel the cellist (rumored to be Murdoch's girlfriend). The set was very special and intimate. They performed mostly new material and tracks off their import singles. During "Like Dylan In The Movies" Stuart nervously forgot the words and visibly upset shouted "Does anyone have our CD handy?" So who saves the day with the liner notes from the album? Chris the owner of Secret Sounds record shop: (htt;://www.secretsounds.com) Belle & Sebastian was the talk of CMJ all week. Their CMJ performance took place on the Lower East Side at an old synagogue with cathedral architecture. It's the sculpture's Angel Orensanz' studio and performance space. It was very cool. The lights reflected off the disco mirror ball hung where the tabernacle should have been illuminating the high cathedral ceiling. For two nights they performed to a sold out room packed with fans. It was gospel. Belle & Sebastian is what it's all about. Amen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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