January 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

RE: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S)
by Hopkins T 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

> -----Original Message----- > From: plaird [SMTP:plaird@ndirect.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 1:01 AM > To: sweet sinister souls > Subject: Re: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) > > WARNING: NO B&S CONTENT > Plaird wrote: > > Northern Soul as in Mod revivalists spinning on their > >head > > Are you sure they were mod revivalists? there was me thinking they were > soul boys:-) > They may have (partly) grown out of the mod scene but the soul boys were > in no sense mod revivalists (in my view). > > > Some singles are equally as good as the all > >time Motown greats but relatively unknown. > > The best northen is better than the best Motown, having the kind of > intensity that the saccharine Motown 'all-time greats' (with a very small > number of honourable exceptions) never got near. > > >buying Northern Soul records, like most other genres, involves wading > >through loads of crap. There are loads of vinyl or CD compilations on > >loads of labels, the best being the likes of Kent or Goldmine/Soul > Supply. > > There's never been a better time (at least since the heydays of the early > seventies) for buying good quality northern soul records. The quality of > the Kent compilations is pretty consistent and most Kent stuff is worth a > dice buy. Beware Goldmine/Soul Supply though. While some of their stuff is > fine, there ais way too much weak material and there seem to be too many > rehashes of obvious old track listings. Also, they seem to have less luck > in locating good quality master tapes than Kent, so the sound sometimes > suffers. My advice is always to listen before you buy... > And talking of buying, i you do fancy Goldmine discs, Polar Bear records > in Leeds used to have a seemingly endless supply of their CDs at very > reasonable prices. > > > >aving only around 20 or so Northern Soul comp LPs/CDs means I'm only > > small fan, and I prefer Sixties Soul. I'd recommend you look out > >or anything by Mary Love, Jackie Day or Vernon Garrett. > >he earlier Kent compilations ("For Dancers Only" and the like) are a > >good bet and there are good budget CDs about. Look out for a CD called > >18 Northern Soul Floorshakers' which you might even be able to pick > >up in those nasty 2.99 racks in your local Newsagent/petrol station! > > That's excellent advice. And the bit that follows is better: > > >avoid anything > >which says 'some tracks may be re-recorded etc.' > > ah, sage words. > > For my part, my favourite soul section is the deep stuff, slower and more > emotional, just beautiful. Buy 'Dave Godin's Deep Soul Treasures' (Kent), > kill for a copy of the Betty Lavette Lp on Charly, and go from there. > That's my tip. > > Sorry about the lack of B&S. > > Cheerio > > tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Modern Rock Song Release date?
by Keith Watson 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

>There is no official release dat yet, but hopefully once the band have >finished in the studio (first week of feb.) then they'll put together >the tracks for the EP and 3rd LP, and decide on some release dates. > >it's trying to be patient ... > >cheers, >Katrina. Strange, my friend Christine who works in Avalanche in Ediburgh told me last week they had a promo of Modern Rock Song delivered last week! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: names#2
by Bramleys 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Firstly, people who are already blessed with the names Sebastian or Isabelle are very lucky, but for the rest of us this is a must. Anyone know a really nice lawyer who could get us a bulk deal - kind of 400 for the price of 50?? I've already changed my name from Elizabeth to Beth, so this might not please my parents too much. post some inspiration bethey**

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Re: Sinister: Re: Pop Quiz
by Sandy Blair 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

> And there were three of 'em in Bros (don't forget Craig the >drummer!) for most of their 'career'. Drummer?? Drummer????? HAH! {Please note you have been expelled from the pop elite, hand in your Dollar records at the door.) Attempt at B&S content. erm, he was from Kirkcaldy which is in Scotland, and so are B&S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl
by Sandy Blair 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

>Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not? It is the disc pressing / burning method that is weaker, not the playback. >slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I don't know where >this sort of stuff comes from The 'Orange book' whatever that is. Pressed CD: Total Harmonic Distortion 65db, S/N ratio 82 dB Recordable CD: THD 55dB, S/N 80dB Recordable CDs follow a different recording algorithm called Absolute Time in Pre-groove (ATIP) which uses a lower quality recording known as 1 time over sampling, normal audio CDs use 4 time oversampling. (note it is the RECORDING that is noisier!). And this would be from a perfect digital information source, add onto the above, the sampling noise (I have a AWE64 for instance, not nearly professional level) and you have something that it pretty much matching an average tape dub. Oh and I only have one Bert Janch CD (the compilation on Demon) which I will not copy on CD or tape as I just wouldn't sleep an nights if I did so ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: B&S Dreams
by Nicole Elger 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

I could be dreaming .. oh wait, I WAS dreaming! I overslept this morning, after a B&S dream. In the dream there was some radio call-in contest and the prize was a bag full of B&S merchandise (records, the ink polaroid books, shirts, etc.) The part I was most excited about was that the records included the new, unreleased songs (i know, that doesn't make sense!) that I haven't heard, stuck here in the U.S. :-( SO here's the weird bit: to win the prize I had to answer 12 questions about .. not pop music, but POTATOES!!! Anyone who can figure that out (no, i hadn't had potatoes for dinner) gets to be the happy bunny of the day (Honey Honey Paul Dorothy Belle Sebastian ChooChoo Chile Mitchell will crown you, to make it official.) After I won the prize the dream turned into one of those cliche run-from-the-bad-guys scenes and just when we were about to escape with squealing tires .. my cat woke me up demanding his breakfast. I looked around under the covers for my prize but it was nowhere to be found. :-( THis wasn't the first time I've had a B&S dream, but the others have always just been that someone tells me that the band is coming here (Seattle) and then .. I wake up. Boo. ("life is never dull in your dreams / A pity that it never seems to work the way you see it ..") Hey, I think someone mentioned the Puncture article on B&S written by Jenny Toomey of Tsunami. It's too long (5 pages) to post here, but it is the most in-depth and interesting read on B&S that I've ever found. She goes beyond mentioning that B&S are the VU of our time, and spends 6 long paragraphs exploring the connection, as she sees it. If any of you doing the B&S web sites wants a copy to put on the web I could snail mail it to you. (Note to D&K: Toomey refers to you as "the ultra-cool UK indie Jeepster" so add that to your compliment file.) OK, i've rambled enough, back to this pseudo-working thing now .. until the next Sinister digest arrives. - Dreaming Nicole ------ nicolina(a)drizzle.com ------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: other sounds(no B&S)
by Nrbqlover 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

i've enjoyed reading other's lists-so i thought i'd pass on a few bands from an anglophile in LA: GBV, Olivia Tremor Control, Neutral Milk Hotel, Melt, Magoo, The Male Nurse, David Wrench, Father, Pink Kross and Palace would be a current top ten. Velvet Underground, Modern Lovers, Wedding Present, Orange Juice, Brilliant Corners, June Brides, Lemonheads, Pavement, Patti Smith, Replacements would make me happy on a desert island as long as i could bring my B&S collection. Ornette Coleman, Tipsy, Miles Davis, Tortoise, John Coltrane, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Steve Reich, Sonny Sharrock and Sun Ra would pass the time if i couldn't play any pop music. as my good friend iggy pop once said: "Thank you for your kind indulgence!" clem lane nrbqlover(a)aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Tonight let's all make love in London
by mctag＠mcmail.com 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Hello, Just a little note to say that some of us are meeting at 8 o'clock (p.m.) on Thursday at the Good Mixer, so anyone who fancies meeting up for a drink and/or going to see Libido afterwards (Norwegian group - I've never heard them, but Elisabeth Z speaks highly) should be there then. Love Tag, a cockney sparrer for a week Miss Hoover, my face is on fire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: what goes on in iceland
by OMUser=Olafia Svansdottir 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

---------- From: Olafia Svansdottir To: 'Belle and Sebastian' Subject: what goes on in iceland Date: Monday, 12 January, 1998 2:33PM At long last Belle & Sebastian have arrived to Iceland, So all of you Icelandic fans can stop worrying (all two of us:me and my boyfriend).We heard them on a radioshow this weekend and one of their album(yes only one copy) i saw in a store ( i made my friend buy the other one!). On this radioshow they played Seymour Stein, Sleep around the clock and slow graffiti Something all of you have probably heard thousand times, but it was the first time for us. And you know what? The dj even mentioned you guys-he said that people on the internet were talking about how they cried their eyes out every time they listened to B&S, which is kind of true-right? There was a spy among us!!! This has helped us pass the time while we're waiting for our 8-369seconds,8-dog on wheels order from David which should arrive anyminuite now(was that the doorbell?) (a little story- not a very interesting one,but what the hell) We first heard B&S on alternative nation this summer, and when we went to London we ( i'm using this" we" an awfull lot aint i)bought IYFS and LLPJ- that evening we(here i go again) came tired to our b&b only to read in london time out magazine that B&S were having a consert that same night in the Union chapel- which we had absolutly no idea where was and saw no chance of getting there, then for the sake of comfort we decided that it was sold out. We spent that night in Sega world. p.s.Pam: Orvar wants to tell you that he is sorry he hasnt sent you the tape yet but it's on the way.Ok Olla...and a little bit Orvar begin 777 WINMAIL.DAT :>)\^(@```0N``0`)````,S="0SA"138`Y`$O ` end ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Manchester review
by Hopkins T 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

This is my review of the Sunday night Manchester gigs, which will be published in the SU newspaper here later this week. It's a little old and stale now but I thought you might like to see it. > Belle and Sebastian, Manchester Town Hall, 28/12/97 > > "Take a second of the day and think of all the things which we have done > this year..." > > I know you've heard twice as many end-of-year summaries than a sane person > could reasonably stomach by now, but this was, simply, the coolest thing. > Belle and Sebastian, the pop group whose music has wrapped itself around > my year like fine bacon around a Christmas sausage, winding up 1997 with a > Classic Pop Event. > Among the many and various reasons I love Belle and Sebastian is the fact > that they are scrupulous in their insistence on doing things differently. > They seem to be able to exist effortlessly outside the tedious > restrictions of established pop method, to be completely different to > their crass contemporaries. > So there are three concerts in two days, including a matinee performance. > The gigs are held in the Victorian gothic splendour of Manchester Town > Hall (the most unusual venue I've seen since Belle and Sebastian played in > an octagonal church in London this summer...). The stage, bizarrely, is > C-shaped, meaning that at no point could any individual see the whole > band, who swapped places for each song. And I had no chance of inspecting > keyboard player Wee Chris's reported penchant for outrageous flared loons. > Most unusual of all, this is no slick pop spectacular. There are gaps > between the songs as a result of the stage layout or technical problems, > (one very lengthy one was due to some unspecified cello catastrophe), > filled with embarrassed comments or ad-hoc songs. Stevie demonstrated how > the guitar figure in the classic 'La Pastie De La Bourgeoisie' bore a > shocking resemblance to the theme from 'Emmerdale', and treated us to a > special rendition of Manchester's most famous contribution to pop history: > 'Matchstalk Men And Matchstalk Cats And Dogs'. Some of the above > displeased some of the capacity crowd, unhappy that the unwritten rules of > rock and roll were being so blatantly flouted. > I loved it. > I love them for the fact they don't feel the need to put on a bland > standard show. I love them for the fact that they put themselves in > unusual and difficult situations, as much to see what happens as anything. > I love them because they seem to be standing alone in consistently taking > chances in a way that none of the nominees for Brat awards could ever > understand. > And I love them because, as someone wise once said, they sound fucking > brilliant. Song after beautiful song, they reminded me why I adore their > records and made me all excited because the new songs sounded fresher, > more exciting, better still. Belle and Sebastian have a new LP out in the > springtime. If songs like 'Seymour Stein' and 'Loneliness Of The Middle > Distance Runner' are anything to go by, it's going to be fantastic. > Really. No pop band of the moment has such a fine grasp of pop perfection, > even down to the immaculate choice of cover versions. 'Reel Around The > Fountain' in March, this time 'In A Nutshell' the best song from the first > Orange Juice LP, a copper bottomed classic rendered, if anything, more > beautiful, shimmering and fragile than the original. > Of course, a professional journalist would be compelled to tell you of > weak points and faults (indeed, one well-known and far-too-old inky scribe > was reported to be ostentatiously parading his contempt for the band > during the matinee). I could, and can, see none. For the first time in > ages, I am too far gone, head over heels to have any kind of rational > perspective. Isn't that great? > Ordinarily, I would be warning you to catch up with Belle And Sebastian > before it is too late. True to form, they confound the ordinary. They seem > to be continuing upwards and onwards, each new song a new way to wring > emotional reactions from me and god knows how many others in a rainy > Manchester. > A fantastic night. Lots of good friends and me, all together for the > pleasure of seeing the best pop group in the whole world. And the pleasure > of dreaming of the new LP, as good a reason for looking forward to 1998 as > any. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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