January 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: first mailing in a long while......
by Matt Locke 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

hello again... and a belated happy new year to y'all!!! Like most of you I came back to work and spent the best part of a week trying to catch up on my e-mails... There was a lot of stuff from earlier digests that I though about commenting on, but the spring tide that is the sinister list has whisked the debates onwards, and it would all seem a bit old hat..... Thanks esp. for all the manchester postings, the only time I've managed to see B&S was at the union chapel. All the manc reports wetted my appetite for more (bad or good..) >By the way, does anyone know anything about the Pearlfishers? The review = >I read from TweeKitten sounded fabulous! Classic acoustic pop? Ahhh! the pearlfishers!!! When I lived in Glaosgow I used to work at a restaurant on the Dumbarton Road called two Fat Ladies (run by N.Zealand couple - very very good fish but v.expensive. Now taken iver by a dour bastard who can't cook for toffee...) One of my co-chefs was a woman called rachel who went out with, and later married (at the people's palace) mil from the pearlfishers (His full name is serbian and i can't remeber the spelling.) I don't remeber much about the band except that at the time thay seemed a bit 'rocktastic' (ie more deacon blue than B&S) and mil had a tendency to show off his bum in tight jeans.... All that might have changed tho', so dont take my word for it > 7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) Its by radiohead, off OK Computer, but can't remember the name right now... BTW, doncha just love genevieve's mailings? she is definently on a nuvva planet, but cute as hell.... that's all my tardy brain can cope with just now. laters matlock (too many matts on this list!!) PS wish me luck this friday, as i have an interview for a new job!!! its for the artistic director of a new digital art gallery opening in huddersfield..... (/MATLOCK crosses his fingers...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Re: Pop Quiz
by Nigel Turner 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

>The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 Belle & Sebastian. Obviously. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: A Northern Slip....
by Matt Locke 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

hello again..... Pete <oasis(a)magna.com.au> wrote: >>Maybe I should buy more. But buy what ? I don`t fancy going to seedy >>holiday camps and paying 100 quid for a single (or spinning on my back >>either to be honest !). Anyone have any great insights into the murky >>world of Northern Soul ? > > >A murky dredged darkly majestic like world it is. From what I have read >the band where in the throes of breaking up whlst recording A Northern >Soul. They ended up splitting for a while Lo and behold the title track >which is one of the most mind pummeling songs you're ever likely to hear is >about Noel Gallagher when he left Oasis for a brief period. [snip!] ah... slight misunderstanding here methinks... the original posting referred to Northern Soul as in rare 60's soul records played at clubs that dust the floor with talcum powder in order to let those feet glide....... Not A Northern Soul as in verve's second album... If you want more about Northern Soul, check out the many vinyl/cd re-issues on goldmine, Chess and charley records. I posted something a while ago about an old soul singer hero of mine, Terry Callier, who has recently worked with Beth Orton. T Hopkins mailed me back after a tape, and he seems very up on Northern Soul, so he might be able to help you (I'm more a soul Jazz, funk and brasilian fan myself) Choo-choo mitchell expressed a leaning (oo-err!) as well..... There is a bootleg issue here as well, in that a lot of these rare groove compilations are iffy, and no money gets back to the original artists (although they all got ripped off by their original labels anyway...) BTW to those I promised tapes of Terry Callier, they're on the way. And I still offer to make tapes of Tigermilk as well!! later, matlockxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re:Pop Quiz
by D.J. Frazer 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 - the only duos I can think of are Wham, Simon & Garfunkel, Tears for Fears, Foster & Allen (only joking), Sam & Dave, The Eurythmics, Bros(joking again). Any of these suggestion correct I wonder? Hope this helps in the quest, Daniel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: bootlegs
by Hopkins T 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

> David wrote: > > > > > belle and sebastian may be wavering over the re-issue of tigermilk > but they > > > > have stated publicly that this is something they plan, more a > question of > > > > when. > > > > as such bootlegging would be a serious threat to it's imminent > success and > > > > would threaten to reduce the revenue that the band would receive. > > I am all for the band making as much money from their efforts as > possible, and think that any bootleg which significantly damaged > their > earnings off Tigermilk would be a Very Bad Thing. > But hey, let's be realistic. The reason I hear for the > non-appearance of a reissue is that there is not enough time to > release it > properly. I assume this means that with the current recording and > forthcoming promotion for the new records, the band will not have > time to > promote it 'properly'. > It seems to me that to me that the reissue of Tigermilk is on hold > for commercial reasons, then: it is being delayed so that > (i) the reissue can be promoted in such a way as to maximise sales, > which is a good thing, but also > (ii) to increase the 'great lost album' myth, and to generate an > ever more hysterical demand for it. > > Whilst this is fine, and probably very good business, people who try > to manipulate the tiger of the supply-demand consumer economy should > not be > surprised when the damn thing turns round and bites them. > There are people in this world who make their living from > bootlegging records. My guess is that none of them read this list, > but I may > be wrong. As the fame of Tigermilk spreads, and the price it fetches > rises, > it becomes more likely that it will be systematically bootlegged. > > >the difference between a tape and cd recording is one of quality, > >but not a > >perceivable difference unless you're incredibly fussy. a tape is > >poorer quality > >and as such would not be used to produce bootlegs from, cd's on the > >other hand > >are accepted as a standard for a master recording and can be used > >in > >mass-duplication facilities to produce large runs of bootleg cd's. > >... it must be realised that should a mass production of > >Tigermilk on cd ever originate illegally, it would probably have > >been done by > >someone that we (as the list) know. simply because it is us (the > >fans, friends, > >record company, etc) that own the original vinyl Tigermilk, so it > >is most likely > >that the cd used would have originated from one of us (as it is > >unlikely that a > >cd produced from a tape would be accepted by any but the most > >worthless > >bootleggers). this is one of the most horrible realisations on this > >subject, and > >it is this i would love to prevent. > > Except that the survey a few months ago tracked down just 10% of > total Tigermilkage world-wide. The profits involved in selling, say > 1000 > bootlegs would mean that a copy of the LP on the collectors market > (lets say > ?300 for the sake of argument) would represent a good financial > investment > on the part of our prospective Belle bandit. > I wouldn't worry too much about our friends in this case...though I > might be wrong. > > > we can serve ourselves and protect the band > >we love simply by restricting our own copies to tape format and not > >a digital > >(master) format. > > It's just as likely that the bootlegger would use a vinyl copy, > surely? Giving access to the cover and the credits etc... > I hope all you minidisk users are hanging your heads, with your > master formats.:-) > I'm still in tape-based servitude. > > I am not trying to defend bootlegging of the LP. Neither do I > disagree that Tigermilk owners should exercise some discretion. I > just think > that, if there are worries about bootlegs damaging earnings, they > come as a > direct result of the decision not to reissue earlier. A decision > which has > left a lot of fans (myself included) desperate for a copy of > Tigermilk which > will be a little more permanent than tape. > > Just a thought. > > Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Northern Soul
by D.J. Frazer 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Ive just read a message from someone saying they would like to know more about Northern Soul and a reply all about The Verve!?-Didn't think the two were relate d apart from an LP title. Um...I don't know much about Northern Soul but I do have a double CD called 'Soul Survivors - 40 Northern Soul Anthems' which is absolutely brilliant and is packed with classics like Wade in the Water by Marlena Shaw, Sweet Soul Music by Arthur Conley and Go Go Power by Sugar Pie de Santo. It is in a yellow case and is linked to the Soul Survivors book which came out in '97. I think its on Telstar. Ive not really taken my appreciation of Northern Soul beyond this but I have seen a website with tempting looking rarity compilations for sale-I think the company was called Soul-a-go-go records. Hope this is of some help, Daniel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: a century of elves
by Chris Leonard 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

>> That was great - it had a Citroen DS in it and everyone knows that is the > >>coolest car in the world. Is that the car that has the lights that can see round the corners? Indeed the coolest car in the world! While i'm at it, i need help. You know how "modern rock song" goes "we're four boys..etc" then goes on to name Stevie, Richie and one of the Stuarts? Do the rest of them feel rejected? I trust this will be rectified on the released version. You know how there is a formula to work out Easter (take the first Sunday after the full moon after the March equinox or something, and there's a maths formula as well), so Easter lies on a different day every year? How come Easter Day can change, but Christmas Day is always December 25th? Does God say so? Bit inconsistent. Do i go to hell now? Hey, Can I play with madness? I went to see Starship Troopers last night. I distinctly saw the protaganist Ricco being killed, but the next thing you know he's alive again. How did he do that? Are we supposed to believe the bloke out of Robocop rescued him? Cheery, Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Yawn
by Honey 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Could all the people who are trying to leave/change their membership of the list PLEEEEEEASE read the WWW page for instructions. It's dead easy. You don't mail this address, you mail "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". Please. Really. I just haven't got time to pick up failed subscriptions. Also - for Andrew Dean I've added compressed (.zip and .gz) weekly archives of the mailing list on the WWW - see the site (in the footer). Erm - and no-one's told me how to change my name yet. Deed poll? What's a statutory declaration? There must be some UK lawyers on the list. See, I'm not doing it for the band (they're crap), it's just a perfect opportunity to rid myself of a bad middle name but keep my initials. And I always fancied someone calling me Seb. HoneySeb xxx -- "Smithers, release the hounds" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by jjm＠mblab.gla.ac.uk 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

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Sinister: Name Games
by Adrian Evans 13 Jan '98

13 Jan '98

Bethey wrote : >OK, here's a proposition. >Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all the = >boys to Sebastian. They'll be this sudden rush at the solicitor's = >offices around the world, and eventually this massive phemomenon will = >reach headline news. There'll be loads of questions: How was it = >organised? Why? And then when our epitaphs are written, people will = >say "Ah, the famous 98 B&S Sinister-listee outbreak. I took a degree in = >it. Interesting stuff." and it'll be like plague victims but much = >nicer. >Wouldn't that be fun? Yes, but all of those whose first names are Isobel or Sebastian would look like twats ! -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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