January 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: B & S Video?
by Sami Keinanen 03 Jan '98

03 Jan '98

Last summer I saw Belle and Sebastian video on MTV. I´m not sure about what song it was, could it be Le Pastie de la Bourgousie? Can anyone tell me? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Holy Dog On Wheels
by PKHINTZ 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

In response to the question of whether Stuart M. is balding in the "Dog On Wheels", perhaps it is really a monk's tonsure. Oh, that would explain so much--he is really a fallen monk forced to write melancholy songs for eternity. Truly not such a horrible divine punishment. Awaiting further important discoveries in 1998, Love Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Joy Division and Tindersticks
by Sam Khater 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

speaking of joy division, is the new box set worth it? i love peter saville's artwork... on an unrelated note, does anyone know how to copyright a body of work? toodles! samiam 'moves on reaction then slumps in despair' - joy division > I bought Tindersticks latest album ("Curtains" I believe) just before = > Chrimbo, because I thought Mr Staples sounded just like Ian Curtis - Joy = > Division. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Tweenet Charts
by Matthew A. Neimark 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

Hey Belle and Sebastian Fans: In case you are interested, the Tweenet charts have in their annual year-end poll Belle and Sebastian kicking everyone's ass in virtually every category from "Bands you could not live without" to "Best EP of the Year" (of which B&S got first, second, and third place). Even this email list won an award for being "Best Mailing List (other than indiepop)". I've never seen a band dominate a tweenet poll so heavily. Not even the Smiths or the Field Mice did. Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: B&S sweeps Indie-pop poll
by Nicole Elger 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

Hi, Are all of you on already on the Indie-Pop list? If not, here are the B&S-relevant results. B&S won nearly every applicable category and the Sinister list was voted "the coolest mailing list or newsgroup besides indie-pop." (We all know Sinister's the coolest of them all, of course. ;-) Congrats to HoneyPaul on that.) I regret to report that none of the B&S gang won "Most Fancied Indiepop Personality". Judging from all the recent gushing about the glittering goddess Isobel, she'll get some votes in that one next year! Ciao now .. - Nicole Indiepop Poll 1997 Results ========================== Cool mailing list or newsgroup besides indiepop: 1. Sinister (Belle and Sebastian List) The bands you couldn't live without: 1. Belle & Sebastian Most listened to longplay records: 1. Belle & Sebastian - If You Are Feeling Sinister 10. Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk Pop songs your new boyfriend should really know about: 1. Belle & Sebastian - A Century Of Fakers 2. Belle & Sebastian - Photo Jenny Most promising new acts: 1. Belle & Sebastian (tied with Shoestrings) Most amazing live experiences: 1. Belle & Sebastian Best EP or mini-LP: 1. Belle & Sebastian - 3..6..9 Seconds of light 2. Belle & Sebastian - Dog On Wheels Belle & Sebastian - Lazy Line-Painter Jane ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs)
by Johnston, John CT 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

I wasn't there on the Saturday and a lot of people do seem a bit miffed by the proceedings but I have to say again that the sound quality on Sunday afternoon was fantastic; the clearest most perfect noise I've ever heard at a gig. Was it different machines? or just plugged in properly? I think the points made about safety are also very significant. But on a lighter note - 2 things. 1. For the first time in my life I picked up a bargain in the new year sales today. I bought this black corduroy outfit for 50% off! So if anyody's having a party and they need someone to lend a certain insouciant glamour then let me know (and I'll ask around...). 2. Also bought Wu-Tang Forever. FANTASTIC. Anybody with the slightest hip in their hop should get it at their earliest. xxxxx John No snogging at new year :( >---------- >From: Mark[SMTP:mark@avnet.co.uk] >Sent: 02 January 1998 13:55 >To: sinister(a)majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) > >This post is critical of B&S and technical. Read at your peril! > >Congratulations to Paul Clarke for daring to make 90% of the listees cry by >saying that Saturday was shit. He is right - they were so bad I almost >couldn't be arsed to go to the Sunday gig. >He is also correct to say that if they're only going to play a handful of >shows a year, the very least they could do is rehearse properly for them. > >I'm a concert promoter for a living and a lot of things worried me about >the gigs.... > >The PA was shit. As was the company that supplied it and also the FOH >engineer. >On the Sunday, two people were sitting on a 100Amp 3 phase cable near to >the C-Form / Camlock connectors. Not only is this highly dangerous, it also >breaches Health and Safety regulations. As a rule, mains cables should be >flown, but if they are laid across the floor, they need to be covered with >a carpet or something similar. Someone, could easily have been killed by an >electric shock the way the PA crew had left it. > >The idea of a circular stack is interesting but not very practical, >especially with the hopeless engineers the band had employed. There were >'hotspots' all over the room which meant you had to walk around to find a >good spot where you could see AND hear. Delay stacks in all four corners >would have improved things as B&S are a very quiet band. Also, one stack >doesn't allow for a stereo separation which might have helped relieve the >tinny 'vocal PA' style sound. > >The PA boxes, aside from being underpowered, were useless for the type of >music B&S play. Also, given that Stuart Murdoch has an unusual mic >technique (ie. he stands about 4 inches away as though he is scared of it), >I don't think a bog standard SM58 was the right choice. It made his voice >sound thin and tinny. > >The sign of a good Front of House engineer is one who is constantly >tweaking things. In a live situation, it is nigh on impossible to attain a >'perfect' sound as the variables are changing all the time. Belle and >Sebastian's engineer seemed more concerned with taking photos and chatting >to mates. They should have sacked him on the Saturday. > >All of this could be overcome by employing a reputable production manager >and doing some proper pre-production rehearsals. It's not as if the band's >schedule is killing them - they hardly do any promotional work at all - so >they've got plenty of time to sort out the live situation. A production >manager would ensure the PA is suitable for the band's sound, locate a >decent FOH engineer, assist Stuart with his mic problems (the records are >great so he obviously doesn't have a problem in the studio), get them some >instrument techs to avoid a repetition of the cello debacle and basically >shake them up. > >I don't want to see them running on stage shouting 'Hey Manchester - we're >here to rock you' and playing a polished set with scripted intros to each >song. That wouldn't be Belle And Sebastian. Hell, I don't even mind Stuart >forgetting the words, that is all part of the appeal. What I do object to >is paying twenty quid for two gigs where no thought has been given to the >production of the show and someone is pocketing the cash from cutting >corners. > >Maybe they should think about this and employ some professionals before >they next venture out. If they don't, the live audiences will dwindle and >they'll be back to playing libraries and cafes where no-one minds if it's >shit because they've only paid three quid to get in. > > >Mark > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . 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Sinister: happy new year
by u01cjtc 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

Happy new year everybody, hope you all had a great hogmanay, if you were in edinburgh you may have seen me wandering around: kilt,wooly hat with very large bobble. Iwas glad to hear saturday wasn't up to much, it makes me feel so much better for missing it, but it's also lovely to hear how much you all enjoyed the gigs anyway. On a tindersticks note, I was listening to curtains the other day and came to the conclusion that if B&S were locked in a brothel with nothing to live on but Gaulois and Courvoisier they would end up sounding just like the tindersticks,who I also adore. Hope you all have an amazing 1998. Colin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: tourniquet
by Richard North 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

has anyone heard that brilliant song that is played constantly on X-fm It is by Headswim I think and it is called Tourniquet Well anyway it is absolutely brilliant Did anyone out there hear the X-fm top 100 alternative tunes? I got up to the Roses - I wanna be adored but I had to go out. Who got number one. At a guess I'd say Paranoid Android got it. I don't think a Beatles/U2/R.E.M/Oasis/Blur song would've got it 'cause there brilliance is spread between songs. There is no stand out track. Not saying that the other Radiohead stuff is shite cause it is brilliant but PA is just an amazing song. Is the top 100 listed on the NET Where did B&S come? *<<<< content* who is Mr Shankley? bye and a cool 1998 for everyone on the list Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Tindersticks
by Adrian Evans 02 Jan '98

02 Jan '98

In response to James Morton ..... I bought Tindersticks latest album ("Curtains" I believe) just before Chrimbo, because I thought Mr Staples sounded just like Ian Curtis - Joy Division. Having now played the CD repeatedly for 2 weeks and totally fallen in love with it, I thought it high-time I introduced it to a couple of my more discerning friends. Shock Horror !! I was appalled - they both thought it sound just like Vic Reeves' club singing malarky on Shooting Stars...Bastards! -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Varous ramblings about the gigs
by Acrylica 01 Jan '98

01 Jan '98

> Some people I noticed - anyone recognise themselves? : >- A boy in black with worrying maroon slip-on shoes complete with gold buckle >and a perfectly accessorised gold carrier bag. He sat just behind me on the >floor near the front whilst waiting for the band to appear, and seemed as on >his own as me. >- A girl with big red hair sitting on a podium stage right. ... Dear me, my third posting - I'm getting addicted! Anyway, the boy you describe sounds like Suedebloke, who was on my left. And the girl - c'est moi! Thankyou for mentioning the bigness of my hair - it's usually very lank, so I go thru hell backcombing it (it's agony in the morning!) in order to reach the desired effect, so its very rewarding when someone mentions the largeness of it! And thankyou for saying red, 'cos it's washing out a bit now and veering towards orange! >After a bit of milling around in the bar area, Future Pilot aka began their >set. Erm, did anyone else find them a bit strange?? I really didn't get >what they were all about at all! Maybe I just wasn't being receptive >enough, but still... They were like Sukia, only without any actual tunes involved. They were art school wank and anyone who wants to flame me for that do so - I love a good argument! Lots of love and (red) iguanas... Acrylica sallydoll(a)lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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