October 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Nick Drake (five leaves left)
by SpaceboyUK＠aol.com 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

hi there. does anyone know where i could purchase NICK DRAKE- FIVE LEAVES LEFT on VINYL? because i've looked and i just can't find it. thanks . -a.james +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Tiger milk LP
by SHIRLEY DERRICK 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

hello I have a friend who is selling his copy of Belle & Sebastian "Tigermilk" original LP, excellent condition. He knows that it's rare but not it's exact value so it will go to the highest bidder provided that the offer received is acceptable. My friend doesn't have e-mail access so I'm advertising for him, all offers should be addressed to me and I'll pass them onto him. I'm using my e-mail at work and I don't work at weekends so any replies will be answered on Monday. Thanks Shirley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: bourgeoisie, working-class, botched capitalism
by A Nonnymouse 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

>"Bourgeoisie" is the word used by Marx and Engels to speak about the >dominant class in the capitalist mode of production. I guess "upper >class would be a more appropriate word, but I've read Fuck right off with this shit. Since when was this list a political lecture? Through in a two line opinion by all means, but don't start spouting pages of condescending shite. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Kerr-Plunk!
by PJMiller 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

I was pleasantly surprised to find the phrase "fuck right off with this shit" in today's little load of messages. It's been quite a while since we heard that kind of direct language on the list, and funnily enough it appeared in connection with the selfsame argument. Repitition, repitition. Repitition, repitition. I've got that Fall song "L.A.", I think it's on a b-side, possibly "Cruiser's Creek", possibly not. I recently claimed to only ever get nostalgic about before I was born, but mention of that song has made me come over all dewey-eyed about The Fall. (sigh). And 7" singles. I wish Tim was here to take the piss out of me. Ooooooooooon tells me that she's gone to the beach, but neglected to specify her chosen form of transport. The smart money's on outrigger canoe. The Lucksmiths got a glowing report in Record Collector a few months ago, all you Londoners should go. If FunkySeb is there, please tell him how much I enjoyed his most recent pub polaroid. It's a shame he's gone, he was just beginning to blossom. Fluffy, I've done your Northern Soul and Reggae for Lovers tape, all I need now is your address. Andrew Dean, I've done your B&S on the radio tape, all I need now is your address. I'm been very productive, thanks to a knackered back. I won't be able to make love to you all for quite a while, I'm afraid. I like it when Linda writes to us. Peter PS: Turkey 1 - Finland 3. Just when you least expect it, just what you least expect...bugger! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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None
by Neil Dewhurst 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

Julien wrote... a society such as the one John Lennon sings about in "Imagine" : a brother/sistehood of men/women that would share the world together in love, peace and harmony (which are the common goal, whatever Morrissey can say). ...although I think Locke (or it may be Hobbes) would disagree. According to Locke, man's natural state is war and conflict. His socio-political model is roughly, give or take a few interpretations and a bit of memory loss, as follows. Before a society is formed, you have a disparate collection of people or peoples all or some of whom are in ownership of distinct territories. The extent of the territory is not important - it could be a small circle carved round where you sit, but basically what is important is that they feel that it is theirs. When another person arrives on the horizon, they are a potential threat to your territory. You don't welcome them with open arms because they may cross you, perhaps by killing you, and thus claim ownership of your territory. By being nice, you have been deprived of your territory, and possibly killed. Your victor now owns more land etc, etc. This expands into a political model, where people in a society appreciate that they need rules to stop this kind of barbarity, so they club together and elect in some way an individual to rule them. Given the potentially evil nature of their leader they give him / her limited powers within which they can rule, so if their leader oversteps they get to oust them. I think in the Hobbes model everyone is so loving and kind and naïve that they just elect someone and decide that they're so trustworthy they give them unlimited power, probably because they weren't around when Lord Acton told the world that "power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Apologies to esteemed political students and academics on the list if I've lied, pretended I know things I don't, or just get everything the wrong way round. B&S content?...erm, if you play B&S music to people they won't invade your territory? Love neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: misheard lyrics
by azriel 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

so you guys know the song "rock me like a hurricane," right? well, i forgot who it was by. *but* my friend ethan heard it for the first time about a year ago and thought it was "raunchy like a hurricane." this same kid heard "root down" by the beastie boys and thought it was "roof down," a song about a convertible: "i put my foot down, i put the roof down." ha! -kerry "so is this what it's come to? am i cold or just a little bit warm? give me an easy life and a peaceful death." -the sundays +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: misery, hope and middle names.
by Matt Hayes 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

dear all. last night was dead nice: i stayed in because i was skint and went to bed early. i put on tigermilk and started reading little ink movies which is just lovely. then i decided to read belle letters which is also lovely. i was really enjoying it until i remembered that my girlfriend is a thousand miles away so i got dead miserable..... however, she will be in sweden next monday evening which just happens to be the day that belle and sebastian's stockholm gig is broadcast on swedish radio. so things aren't so bad. anyway, i was just wondering if anybody knows and of the band members middle names. i really hope stuart murdoch's begins with a p because then his initials will be spm. the same as, well, someone else with those initials. anyway, my week is over. sorry for the crap at the beginning. love, matthew ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Oops, forgot that one
by Keith Watson 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

Well, forgot that one about Le Pastie de la Boulangerie, we've had that discussion before plenty a time too, so I've stuck that one in the FAQ too, I guess I'm posting this loads right at the moment. Never mind, this one is a special "Peter Miller remix version" cause he was pissed off not to be amongst the credited people at the end. Megan, the Kid Loco album is ace, when I first bought it I thought it was a bag of shite, just kind of like Air, but not as good, and less tunes, however, since then I've really got into it and I can't figure out why I didn't like it in the first place. It's got some completely great tracks on it, especially the aforementioned track with the Captain Beefheart sample on it, it also has some sexy groaning noises too, like in French Kiss, and Je t'aime moi non plus. I got some of the singles too, the Love me sweet one featuring a couple of remixes, unfortunately they're a bit cack, and I wouldn't recommend it much - apart from the picture on the sleeve, which is nice. I am at this very moment listening to Mr. Teddy "Teddy" Pendergrass, and his Love TKO, although I'm afraid I know very little about the great Teddy himself, so I'm a bit stuck there. Hey I'm gonna go down the shops after work though to try and attain a copy of "Young and Foolish". Duke - I hope you realise that me and Peter are bloody well pissed off that we don't get a mention in it - bear that in mind for your next book - or maybe you could quickly release an updated version, which includes us. A friend of mine pointed out the other night that there's a serious similarity between the Bellenders' Mary Jo, and David Essex's "A Winters Tale", sing it along, it's quite noticable. OK then, here comes that pesky FAQ again... Cheers, Keith. Belle and Sebastian : Frequently asked Questions 1. What is Tigermilk, where can I get a copy? Tigermilk is the bands first album and was released around about May 1996. It was released as part of a Stow College course whereby Alan Rankine (of the Associates) fronts up the cash to record a single every year, although with Belle and Sebastian they decided that there was enough material for an album, hence Tigermilk. There were only 1000 copies pressed and so the record is worth a lot of money now. The band have always mantained that Tigermilk will be re-released at some point, and this will definitely be the case, currently likely that about March 1999, although this may change. 2. Who is the guest singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane? The female singer on Lazy Line Painter Jane is Monica Queen, formerly of countryish Glasgow band Thrum. Thrum released a record a few years ago, about 1994 I think. Last I heard she was recording with her own band which is called "Monica", or at least that's what it was called in February 1997. Here's a list of releases. "Purify" 7", "Thrum" / "Here I am" / "So glad" 12"/CDs and the "Rifferama" LP/CD 3. What is "Elvis" in A Century of Elvis. No-one knows bar the author really, but it's probably a cat, perhaps a tortoise, maybe actually Elvis, maybe it's Tortelvis from Dread Zeppelin who knows, and to be quite honest, who cares. 4. Who is in the band... Stuart Murdoch - singing guitar, trumpet apparently now, for the twin lead trumpet effect. Isobel Campbell - singing, cello, various Sarah Martin - violin, weird things Stevie Jackson - Guitar, piano, singing. Stuart David - Bass Mick Cooke - Trumpet, various Chris Geddes - keyboards Richard Colburn - Drums Neil Robertson has been known to play bass on Stuart David's "Spaceboy Dream", which brings me on to... 5. What other bands have members of Belle and Sebastian involved in? There's quite a number of things here. I'm sure it's not complete either, it's just what I can remember off hand. Chris Geddes : currently V-Twin and Golden Rodeo (think that's what they're called). Has played on Arab Strap records. V-Twin have released two singles (to my knowledge), Gifted, and a 12", In the land of the Pharoes. Mick Cooke : Used to play with Hardbody, who released two singles on Epic (On your own, Hazel's hob). Now plays with the Karelia and the Amphetameanies. Has also played on releases by Mojave 3, Ex-Cathedra. Probably others too. Stuart Murdoch : Played on releases by Polarbear and Arab Strap. Previously : (Early) Digger$, Lisa Helps The Blind, Rhode Island. Richard Colburn : Has played with Polarbear/Snowpatrol Isobel Campbell : Has played on Arab Strap records, also played on the Snowpatrol record. Stuart David : Stuart David has a side project called "Looper". There has been one single released on Sub-pop singles club called "Impossible things" and there is an album planned. 6. What records have been released? Tigermilk (LP) May 1996 If you're feeling sinister (LP) November 1996 Dog on Wheels (EP) April 1997 Lazy Line Painter Jane (EP) June 1997 3,6,9 Seconds of Light (EP) October 1997 The Boy with the Arab Strap (LP) September 1998 7. What's that song at the end of the 3,6,9 seconds of light EP called. It's called "Songs for Children". 8. What about all these unreleased songs that people keep belting on about in order to make themselves look smart? Pocketbook Angel London has let me down Hurley's having dreams These are little demos of old songs that will as far as we know, never ever be released as Belle and Sebastian. Loneliness of the middle distance runner Modern Rock song Rhoda People around the place have tapes of various different versions of these, they've been kicking around for a while and they may well be released reasonably soon, there are numerous different versions of the Loneliness of the middle distance runner. I Know where the summer goes The Gate These two will probably be a part of the next single Here's another piece by Peter Miller : One of the rarest Belle and Sebastian related recordings is a home produced demo of "To Sir With Love", the Lulu song from the film of the same name. The recording features the plaintive voice of Stuart Murdoch alone with his Casiotone keyboard, and is rumoured to be heartbreakingly beautiful. From the same recording session comes one of Murdoch's earliest attempts at songwriting, but no one can remember what it's called. It mentions "She Made Me Realise" by My Bloody Valentine. Efforts to locate these recordings have proved unsuccesful so far. 9. What sessions have they done on the radio? The first session was around about September 1996 here Mark Lamarr sat in for Mark and Lard at night... They played Judy and the dream of horses Like Dylan in the movies The State that I am in The stars of track and field The second was about February 1997 on Mark + Lard's program again and they played : I could be dreaming Seeing other people (slow version) We rule the school Modern Rock song The third was on Steve Lamacq's evening session and they played : Lazy Line Painter Jane Sleep the clock around Slow Graffiti Seymour Stein They did one of Stevie Jackson's tracks "Wrong Love" one night when the evening session was live from Glasgow. Apparently this is now called "Wrong Girl", will it be called "Wrong Sheep" at some point in the future? The fourth less well known session was on Peter Easton's Radio Scotland music program where he played : The Loneliness of the middle distance runner Slow Graffiti Modern Rock song. 10. Who is Tigermilk dedicated to? Tigermilk is dedicated to Lawrence Bradby, who's a friend of Stuart's. I dunno how frequently asked this question is, but it certainly was asked frequently recently as regards a competition on French radio. 11. Are Belle and Sebastian twee? No, they rock. 12. Dog on Wheels, what's the story there then? Well it's not really Belle and Sebastian on that EP, as you'll see if you have a look at who played on it. Here's the story: All the songs on the EP were recorded some time, either at the end of '95, or start of '96, at Beat Box studios, which is where Stuarts Murdoch and David were doing a doley sound engineering course at the time. Pretty much everyone who plays on it were on the course as well, apart from Mick. One of the guys who ran the studio was Alan Rankine, of Stow College, and Electric Honey Records, which is where he came in. So hopefully that'll put an end to the word of loads of hoary old session musicians playing on it, just kids who were on the course. Makes the recording of that EP sounds less like an episode of Rock School doesn't it. 13. Le Pastie de la Bourgeousie - what does it translate as? Apparently, what it's supposed to translate as is "The Apathy of the Upper Class", however it doesn't, so we're told by reliable French people... Doh! And yes it was sprayed on the wall at Charing Cross for a while, it's in the video for Dog on Wheels, there was another graffiti of the same thing done by a bloke from the Yummyfur next to Greggs the Bakers on Byres road. 14. Who's on the covers of the records? Tigermilk : Joanne Kenney If you're feeling sinister : Ciara MacLaverty Dog on Wheels : Joanne Kenney Lazy Line Painter Jane : I dunno 3,6,9 Seconds of Light : Victoria Morton The Boy with the Arab Strap : Chris Geddes Many thanks to Andreas Hering, Mick Cooke, Chris Leonard, Philippe Garnier and Peter Miller for help with this. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: You Made Me Forget My Thighs
by larry＠interlog.com 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

Corporatio Arachnoida wrote: >And seriously, at the first party I threw at my house I was talking >about how the historical scale is now reversed, and those with money can >afford to be thin while the poorer have to settle for fast food and tv >dinners and wind up being horridly overweight, when my friend Jerry from >400 miles away strode in, plopped down on the couch, and yelled (in >front of all my paraprofessional, uh, colleagues) "BITCH, BRING ME A >CHICKEN POT PIE!" It was funny how every single one of them got up and >said they really had to go all within a minute of each other. I mean, >there was a queue to leave. I had to return a keg 95 percent full. Well, that's the problem with paraprofessional colleagues - they tend not to have seen The Breakfast Club, ever. "Eh, smoke up, Johnny!" -L- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: wooha.ha.
by IsItRite＠aol.com 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

Hi :) I've only been lurking for a few days and already I'm going insane with the amount of emails I'm getting. All of you are charming yes ;) but it fills up the mailbox. So...what I'm asking is how to I get you all bundled up into digest form? Thanks, Jenny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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