November 1998 - Sinister

Re: Sinister: You know what I don't understand?
by Alan.Holding 13 Nov '98

13 Nov '98

Is it too late for the list crush votes? Alan -----Message d'origine----- De : Sandra Duric <SANDRAD(a)accu-staff.com> À : 'Carmen' <Carmen(a)provincetown.k12.ma.us>; sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Cc : 'cmarcoux(a)mcgill.com' <cmarcoux(a)mcgill.com> Date : jeudi 12 novembre 1998 19:39 Objet : RE: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Without sounding too evil, what exactly is the topic, as you refer to it? Could it be Belle and Sebastian and the people behind it and the music that inspired them and the music that inspires us to share dreams and stories of buses and little things like that that bring people from numerous countries together, relating and possibly getting a more real picture of the world beyond MTV, BBC or CBC? It's always about the music, even the tangents. This is a gentle Canadian chill for you. I suggest you trash what you don't like and let everyone be silly once in a while. That's what I've been doing for months now. Alexandra +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S fashion wear -Reply
by Arthur Chan 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

I can't wait 'till I get my "Stow" t-Shirt :) >>> Jessica Gockley <jgockley(a)beacon.eastern.edu> 11/12/98 02:54pm >>> the sad tomato suggested: >let's make a deal where every time you see someone in a B&S >shirt you walk up and introduce yourself. If i ever saw someone wearing a Belle and Sebastian t-shirt, i would probably cover them with hugs and kisses just out of the excitement of finally chancing upon someone who found Belle and Sebastian fashionable. Actually, i'd probably be too shy, but i'd for SURE say hello and compliment them on their shirt. Maybe if they sent properly reassuring signals, i'd cover them with hugs and kisses after i finished my awkward introduction. Every time i wear my Study at Stow t-shirt (which, in fact, Goon, is a little bit too big for me, so it's a good thing i got that M and not a L!), i feel this overwhelming sense of potentiality. At any minute my ordinary day could turn extraordinary as someone stops me on the street and covers me with hugs and kisses. Unfortunately, though, it never happens, and i keep having people ask me, "Study at Stow, what's that?" One friend of mine who is acquainted with B&S thought "Study at Stow With Belle And Sebastian" was a tour shirt and that B&S was supposed to have opened for a band called Study at Stow in Philadelphia. Then i feel somewhat obsessive when i have to give the history of Tigermilk and Electric Honey Records in order to explain what, up until then, had been an excitingly cute shirt. That didn't stop me from wearing my Study at Stow shirt three days in a row the other weekend. (Don't look at me like that! I wore it on top of a different long-sleeved shirt each time, and i always smelled it to make sure it was clean! Oh pish, you'd do the same thing if YOU had a brand-new baby-blue Study at Stow t-shirt, too, admit it.) Love, Jessica Foxinasnow "The world is a wonderful place to be born into if you don't mind happiness not always being so very much fun, if you don't mind a touch of hell now and then just when everything is fine" - Lawrence Ferlinghetti Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: Hi Heather
by Heather Marie Propes 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Thanks Martin! I said that I didn't want a reply, but I guess I was sort of secretly hoping for one. Yeah, I'm truly enamoured by Roxy Music, and it's not a sex symbol thing, I just think they're extremely talented and evocative. As for Scott Walker, I have heard that he was one of the single most influential artists for Bryan Ferry, but Jarvis too, wow - I will try your suggestions. I think I saw the "Best of" CD you mention, is it gray? I'm with you, if I see a "best of" collection, I'm all over it. More music for the money! Actually, lately I've been married to my MP3 player, there's some really good stuff out there. Thanks for welcoming me. Ciao, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch(a)midway.uchicago.edu On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Martin Horsfield wrote: > Firstly I just thought I'd welcome you, because I was so pleased when > someone said 'hello' to me after joining the list. Pleased to see you've > bought '...Sinister'. It's the best of the two B&S albums I'be heard > (you might have gathered that their first 'Tigermilk' is a mite dificult > to get hold of, though someone on the list is meant to be taping me > one). > > Good to see you like Roxy Music too - a damned underrated band, at least > here in Britain. I've only got a realy old 'Best Of'. My favourite songs > are 'Editions of You' (great to dance to) and 'Mother of Pearl' (a > massive influence on Suede, I'd say), along with the old classics. > > As for Scott Walker, it's reckoned that 'Scott 4' is his best (hence the > British band of the same name). I think it's the one with 'Boychild' on > it - all very camp and flamboyant and much loved by a certain J. Cocker. > Myself, I've just got 'No Regrets: The Best of Scott Walker and The > Walker Brothers'. It is absolutely amazing, especially 'Montague Terrace > In Blue'. I'm not a musical snob. If a band's best songs are on their > 'best of', then buy the best of, I say. > > Anyway, enjoy life on the list > > > "All we've done since we got here is drink wine and screw," > "What do you suggest?" > "Tomorrow let's pray for beer!" > > Martin Horsfield > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ooh, watch it
by Alix Campbell 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

darling listy wisty i am not easily offended, but what upsets me is people telling others what to write, or not to write. Carmen's post wasn't very nice, and inaccurate. It's not as if the topic is so far removed from B&S that we continually talk about australasian sheep farming techniques, or the like. if we talked exclusively about b&S, where would we be? discussions concerned solely with the middle eight of mary jo?, the merits of the slow version of seeing other people?. interesting - yes, but not forever. The point is, the lives and opinions of the listees are frequently more interesting and funny than staying on topic. And who's to say that this isn't the topic anyway? Tear me apart and boil my bones, but being patronising is no way to win friends. But perhaps she doesn't want to. If so, i'd assume that maybe she expects something different from a list. So, my apologies, Carmen, i'm glad you like B&S, but you don't seem interested in the other people who like them too, and surely that is an integral part to this list?. But anyway, chances are she won't read this; there's no b&s content. this is the last time i'm going to be so horrid. alix. c *****yes I KNOW i've been just as patronising, and opinionated. "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' wot carmen sed......... You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. Kindly, ...CARMEN... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: In Love
by Blur245＠aol.com 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Hi Fellow Listees. Well I know you are probably all sick of hearing stories of the shows but I had to share mine.I saw B&S in Athens after driving 7hours from Orlando,FL.We stayed in the Scottish Inns outside of Athens(How unusal).We got to the 40 Watt around 5pm to meet some friends at The Engine Room.Instead we met Richard and Neil from B&S and sat down and talked with them.They shared stories about the tour and upcoming singles and The Acid House movie and the scene in which their song is used.They also said they wanted to move to Athens as they loved it there.We ended the conversation discussing about drinking before the show and having a few pints with them,even coning them to stay the night and wait till the next day for D.C. Anyway we went to Wuxtry where I got a cool Sarah records comp and the first Adorable CD.We went back to bar and had a few more pints(I start to slur).We make a pact to kidnap the band for a drinking spree before the show,only to see Isoand Stuart wisked by other indviduals.We then decide to go buy are shirts before they sell out(I bought the Tigermilk one).We go back to the car and put the shirts in and go have one more drink before B&S hit the stage. The 40 watt is a pretty cool venue and packed to capacity.We mingle are way up front and secure are positions,tension was in the air.Out comes Isobell and the crowd erupts.The set was really good the new stuff especially.I had problems with the idiot who screamed "Lazy Line"over and over again(Set list do not allow requests) and the girl who requested "Beautiful" only to have it played and talk all the way through it.The show ended apbruptly after 65 minute set,which left many unhappy. We waited around outside with me losing my ride only to find out they went back in.In I go and there standing in front of me a beautiful sight Isobell(love).I walked up and said hello she looked at me and said hello back.I asked her how her health was and she told me about her flight over here and all about school(15 minute conversation)I even started to call her Izzy as she seemed to like it.She signed my shirt and got Stuart and Chris to sign,telling each of the will you sign this for Simon.After a 30 minute backstage experience they were of I walked her to the bus wishing her good luck.I then said to Richard and said we were on our way(The bars close at 2am it was 2.30am)So on our way back to our rooms for an evening of rest. I was wandering did anyone take some good photos at the show? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Nick Drake
by Iangstl＠aol.com 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

I would definitely recommend Five Leaves Left for an intro. Even Time of No Reply is great, well all of drake is great, but was posthumously released stuff. I am suffering through the Drake bio right now. I say suffering since it seems to have taken me close to 70 pages to get through the tales of the happy Nick that was into athletics at posh boys schools to his black clothing clad, hash smoking Cambridge skipping days that seem to have inspired his music more. I understand the book is a very good read; I just have to get beyond the british boys school stuff that I have never understood. I have no bus stories since the only time I have spent away from the Motor City, where everyone drives their living, I had to rely on my own two feet for transport in college. However, once I was pulled over by the cops after drinking many rusty nails. My friend and I was walking at the time, or was that stumbling. The gentle policemen even put on their sirens and lights to impress us as they blocked our path. I had to tell them the directions to my destination and assume responsibility for my friend that was propped on my arm, before he would let us stumble away. So much for cops being there to protect and serve; he could have at least offered us a ride home. - dawn (who is fairly certain I am the only one with the following in her player) NP - Can's Monster Movie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Life is boring.
by Ivo A P Escossia 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

I worked all day. After that i went to a record shop called Verso I saw 4 "The boy with the Arab Strap" Cds there. [B&S connection 1] A friend of mine bought Rialto and Divine Comedy album. I bought Divine Comedy, but i need to listen to "Fin de Siecle" more times cause did not like it. Poor Neil Hannon. [I did not like Rialto album..After Belle and Sebastian ALL the bands are crap..but i will give Rialto a chance sameday because i am a good guy] A WONDERFUL girl was looking for a My Bloody Valentine Cd. [shoes connection 1] And she knows Belle And Sebastian. [B&S connection 2] WOW !!!! Boring Day... Boring Divine Comedy's Cd. Boring mail Wonderful B&S list [B&S connection 3] Beautiful "My Bloddy Valentine girl" [shoes connection 2] Hey.. I know OUR David K. He has a NICE Suede T-shirt. :o) Ivo A P Escossia escossia(a)electus.com.br Sonar E-zine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1389/ Think about it http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1389/Matthew.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the big boys.... are in the butchers
by Joss Moorkens 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

...CARMEN..."Kindly" wrote >Try keeping on the topic, please. And the topic was incidents with buses wasn't it? I'm afraid that my incident didn't actually happen on a bus though. Hope that's okay. Anyways, there I was sitting in work last week, gazing blankly at my computer screen when I suddenly remembered getting hit by a car. The previous saturday I had been stumbling drunkenly towards my house with my anorak hood up when somebody shouted to watch out for a car. Noticing that I was right in the middle of the road, I aimed pathwards, but that canny ol' car had been swerving to avoid me. The car hit me and I rolled off the bonnet and tried to walk on as if nothing had happened. The driver asked if I was okay and I said 'yes, thankyou' while my friends all laughed. For some reason I had forgotten all of this until reading the first 'incident with a bus' story, when it all came flooding back. Pathetic yet amusing, I felt. So anyways, Belle and Sebastian were marvellous in Brussels and a local magazine called Bulletin wrote of how "their trainspotter fans hide in well-worn anoraks and massive sideburns". They meant me! Fame at last. *And* three list crush votes. A 200% improvement on last time. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Almost as warm and fuzzy as when I thought Rollercoaster Ride had a line about me in it that went: "you're happy cos your cosy anorak goes 'round your head." But it does not. Turt wrote: >Kool and the Gang. Doesn't the piano bit at the end of Seymour Stein sound like the one from Diana by Kool & the Gang? I thought so. Time I was off, isn't it? Play friendly. love joss xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: E's makin' it up as 'e goes along!
by Mark Crutch 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Well, it looks like I was a bit too late with my master plan to change my name by deed poll to Phillipe (2 Ls, 1 P) in order to get some crush votes from people that can't spell. Maybe next time. A bus story: I was on the top deck of a double decker in Manchester with my ex a few years back, when it approached the bus stop under the bridge by the BBC (the exact location is irrelevant, but I thought anyone familiar with Manc would appreciate the attention to detail). Anyway, sitting in the gutter was a plump, speckled pigeon. Guess where this is heading. "Fly!" we thought, hoping that our brainwaves would cut through the ether and prompt the little boid. As the bus neared, we lost sight of the creature, owing to the fact that we were on the top deck of the bus and the floor was less than transparent. Nevertheless, it seemed that everything was fine: we hadn't felt the bump of pigeon under wheel, nor heard the screams of little-old-lady-spattered0with-pigeon-blood. The bus began to pull away. There was a slight breeze. A flurry of feathers wafted out over Oxford road. We were sad (at least, until we got to Holland & Barrett in the Arndale, and I treated myself to some fine Panda liquorice comfits, mmmmm). In accordance with honey's wishes, no bands listed without good reason: I would therefore like to suggest that you all buy stuff by British indie combo "The Sweeney". Very upbeat, indie-pop in a good way. Great lyrics - more than a little cynical (songs like "Shut Up!" and "Fish Face" - the latter about David Mellor and his ilk). Here's the crunch though; if they got a good festival gig, they'd become big (in the same way Dodgy managed it). ATM they're relatively small fish, despite two great albums (especially the first, "Pop Gun" - high in my top ten of all time greats). A friend of mine spoke to the drummer the other day, and was told that they're thinking of calling it a day if the next EP doesn't sell well. They're a great band (a 3 piece) and this would be a tragic loss to the pop world. So I implore you: check out "Pop Gun" if you can (though you won't find it in most shops), then buy it, then see them live, then tell your chums. Their record company is at www.rotator.com (or maybe .co.uk) if you want to know more. Finally, some smut: I occasionally fantasise about finding a woman who will let me construct a little bastion of Pez bricks around each nipple, only to nibble them off again. Actually I've never fantasised about that, but I think I might start. B&S Content? I sincerely hope they are. Xav -- xav(a)compsoc.man.ac.uk http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A San Francisco Bus Story
by Julie_Smith＠iacnet.com 12 Nov '98

12 Nov '98

Hello children. I have a bus story for you. Anyone who's lived in San Francisco for a period of time has experienced how horrible our mass transit (called MUNI) is. After commuting to work for three years, I have many many stories, some funny and some frustrating. But I'll just tell you an old favorite. One night I was waiting for a bus which is supposed to come every 15 minutes, but typically takes twice as long. On this particular night, I (and about ten other people) waited 45 minutes before the bus finally pulled up. During our wait, we had formed what is called a "MUNI mob"-- a group of strangers that become bonded in collective anger at how poorly the bus system is run. We shared bus horror stories and fantasies about blowing up MUNI's central office and were basically having a grand old time bashing the system. By the time we got on the tardy bus, we were all friends and amused ourselves by talking loudly about how things would have to change, how inconvenienced we all were etc. About fifteen minutes into the journey there was a loud crackle and a shower of sparks and the bus grounded to a halt. My MUNI mob friends and I stared at each other in disbelief, realizing that our trip was once again going to be delayed. But then, one of our number caught sight of another connecting bus pulling up across the street. "Let's go!" he shouted. We all ran off our bus and across the street towards the new bus which we now saw was so packed that people were scrunched together in the aisles. As we got closer, we realized that the driver was singing into his microphone, in kind of a bluesy way. He sang, " Get on the bus...get on the bus....get on the bus." And then he'd interchange it with, "You don't need money, you don't need money, you don't need money." Once my MUNI mob and I had piled on to the bus which was probably illegally crowded at this point, the bus driver continued his performance. As the bus lurched along and we tried to stay on our feet and out of other people's laps he sang, "This is a San Francisco bus, this is a friendly bus, this is a musical bus, this is a BUS I tell you, this is a LOVE bus," at which point someone at the back yells, "If you pack anymore **&%&^& people in here it really WILL be a love bus." The bus driver pauses and then sings, "There's no need to be dirty, there's no need to be dirty. . . it's a friendly bus . . . . ." The End. Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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