November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Ding Dong is Merry and High
by PJMiller 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Tag wrote: Why don't we all do it? The label can fly us out to Don Pedro Miller's castle in Spain, and armed with cameras and "booms", Yes, yes, that's all very well, but you can sod off, I'm doing it by myself. It's going to be a "claymation" affair, a bit like Wallace and Gromit, only I'm not going to use normal plasticine. The wee figures, who'll get up to all kinds of pop-related high jinks will be called THE JOBBYMEN. How's that for a dirty dream, missus? And I'm going to get one of those Sooty and Sweep pop group machines that you put 2p in and they jerk into action and play a tune and Butch is on drums and suddenly it's the Seventies again and Linda's being bossy and it's FUCKING GREAT! I don't believe that was Mad Dog Murdoch either. Far too low key. The least he could have done was tell us all about the News of the World coming round. What happened to the great tour diary tradition? Is it just too sordid? That was a nail mail, and no mistake. Oh and while I'm in a bad mood, who said that Stout Robin's poem wasn't B&S enough? Eh? I'm waiting....It was very B&S, you can't get much more B&S than silver trousers. Speaking of trousers, where's the mother of all poetry parrots got to? Bloody Sha-La-La, I betcha by golly wow. Tag also said: Oh and Peter, you were in my dream the other night, you looked like Hungry Hippos Hamilton, only mutated somehow, and you were a right grumpy old bastard. Is it true? The second part is true. Paul "Honey" Mitchell wrote: As far as list content recently has been discussed: I won't send on the very nasty mail I composed last night now, but it's kept in reserve under my mattress, if bad 'uns on the list still don't seem to care enough to put some thought before they hit send. It seems a shame to waste it, Paul. Send it to me. Go on. Otherwise I won't let you be the chief JOBBYMAN in my video. They all work in a Jobby Mine, mining for jobbies, and they only get Sundays off. Jordi, perched at the top of an enormous human tower, wrote: Oh, I?m really feared about what I wrote. I think that you, dear listees, know that my english level is not wonderful, and what I did was basically taken from the dictionaries. No need to be feared, Jordi. Most of it is fine anyway, apart from "MAJOR" is a military man of some sort, not the head of the town council, that's "MAYOR", unfortunately. Perhaps the others can help with another problem.....what does "seeing other people" mean? It's not quite going out with, is it? Shagging other people? Is that the same? And to see eye to eye with someon is like to share the same views, to agree with them, something like that. And terry underwear is more than just soft, it's kind of towel material. I think it must be for perverts. Feel free to contribute, it's more fun than grammar. There, that's enough to be going on with. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Welcome Home Mr Duke, Welcome Home
by Warrander John - FML 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Ahhh, Mr Duke returneth like the messiah and speaketh the following words: >oh well. It's lovely to be back, but don't expect it to last long, >especially if you're not going to instantly vote me number one >in the list crush stakes. Fucking Hell!!! He's real. Mr Duke is real. I'm very, very happy that you've returned Mr Duke. You haven't been around since I joined Sinister and I thought you were maybe just some made-up focus for all the wonderfully inane banter that goes on round these parts. You're my hero Mr Duke. So, can I come and visit you? Can I stay at your house? Will you introduce me to some of the nice girl pupils? I'll tell you what everyone's been saying about you. I'm a right sneaky little sod. And I love you Mr Duke. You can have my list crush any day of the week. Then there was another fine prediction from Mystic MIller: >Right, I'm off to watch the football, it should be quite exciting >tonight. And bloody hell, it was exciting. We had to set up segregation in our living room. We were all going to pile round Tag's house and give him a kicking if it ended up a draw, but then we didn't want to go out in the rain. Just as well. Reading his message from last night I suspect the little fella was in a foul mood. He'd have probably used karate on us. Anyway to brighten up the list I suggest Mr Tag tells us some interesting historical railway facts. I'll start though. Mr Charles Dickens survived a fatal rail collision five years to the day before he died. Imagine the consequences for English literature had he been killed??? Spooky, huh? Well not really. As far as I can tell he wrote fuck all of consequence in the last five years of his life. But see, I knew nothing about this pillar of English literature a few days ago. Now I've expanded my knowledge. This is what's known as "bettering yourself" and I hope we're all agreed that this is a good thing. Er, is that another nail in the coffin of Sinister? Sorry folks. The NME Rock 'n' Roll Years book's got some interesting facts in it though. Like one about Mr Keith Moon who used to dress up as policeman before Who shows and search the audience for drugs. Presumably he "confiscated" any he found, but this was only implied. That was really for the benefit of Watson and Miller but I suspect they knew this fact already. Oh, and having spent the first eighteen years of my life in a council house on one of these so called "rough" estates, I'd just like to say they're brilliant. When I was very small (about Tag size) me and my other little friends used to envy the people who got to live in the tower blocks. Dreamy forgotten days when throwing a milk crate full of empty bottles from the fourteenth floor was the most excitement anyone could have anywhere in the whole world ever. And that'll do from me. Farewell, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: NEW WWW ARCHIVES AND SEARCH
by Honey 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

There's a completely new format to the archives and searching on the WWW site: I've just made it live, so please go off and take a look and let me know. It's all been done from scratch, and is my sole achievement of the last two months, so at least smile politely, give me a lolly and pat me on the head, even if you think it's not much of a testament to a recently inside-the-house life. You should take this effort on my part as notice that a failure to use the Search and Archives now, on the grounds of laziness, isn't funny anymore. I've spent some time on this, and I really hope it's useful to you all. There have been too many questions asked recently that have been answered 30 times already, and it just leads to the list skating downhill fast, and recently me getting sad enough to not want to bother running this anymore. The WWW site should be your first port of call before your email program, and if it doesn't appear that way from what you post, beware the almighty unsubscribe message from the sky, and a permanent ban. And I'm too tired to deal with appeals. And that Stuart Murdoch can watch it too. Crikey he isn't even subscribed :) Go to the "Archive" and "Search" links from the main page, http://www.majordomo.net/sinister, and expect to see the following: o the monthly archives now split into pages, 100 mails per page, to make them quicker to download; o indexes sorted by subject, date and authors; o custom imitation rolled-gold bathroom taps and lavatory handle; o a vastly speedier search tool, so quick that I believe there's black magic afoot, and am checking the house for funny smells; o lots of different ways to run complex searches, so you too can find out "what that French song Isobel sang was". The Search is pretty customisable now, and if you're ingenious you can find just about anything you want, quickly, that's ever been posted to the list. If you're *not*, well, you can still have some fun putting in rude words and seeing what you find. If you don't want to use the options, just enter the word or phrase you want and hit return. Bear in mind it will only by default match *complete* words. If it all goes wrong, you'll find me blubbing in a corner somewhere, but it looks OK so far. As far as list content recently has been discussed: I won't send on the very nasty mail I composed last night now, but it's kept in reserve under my mattress, if bad 'uns on the list still don't seem to care enough to put some thought before they hit send. It's sort of like the big red button on Homer's control panel in Sector 7G, and when it's pushed down it doesn't come up again. I'm honestly pretty convinced, after putting some time into my appeals for sanity and seeing them ignored, that some of you don't give a damn at keeping this list alive and you're ruining it for the rest of it. So you will be removed. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: 6 Degrees of Omar Sharif
by Frank Yang 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Okay, I'm needing a bit of help here from the more worldly of the listees - I'm playing electronic 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon, and have been challanged with Omar Sharif. I have never seen Dr Zhivago or any of Omar's movies, so I'm at a loss. I refuse to give up, and am humbly requesting help from anyone who can connect Omar Sharif to some more recent movies (preferably ensemble casts, but not necessarily). This contest is key to retaining my title of Receptacle of The Most Useless Trivia in The World amongst my immediate group of friends. Sorry for abusing the list. We now return you to your regularly scheduled smut discussions... -- Frank Yang "Mmmm...Sacrelicious!" In my CD player: Emm Gryner - Public +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: judy i don't know you & questions...
by Bill Moss 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

hello, has anyone noticed if you listen closely you can hear two stu's singing 'judy i don't know you if you gonna show me everythin?' i guess it could just leakage during the reording but i think it's cool especially in my headphones. what istrument is playing in the the begining of 'if you're feeling sinister?' it's the one that fades in and out - is that a pedal steel, slide or cello? and who are those kids? also has anyone had a look at b & s's instruments, amplifiers, etc? i'm curious to know what they use and if it's different when they come to the states or if they use voltage adapters? just got back from a glasgow visit where i was able to meet a wee local sinisterine, go to safeway, get all 3 ep's on cd (at john smith's), walk through the park (during the day) and eat loads of bourgeoise pasties and irn-bru (at gregg's bakery - yum :). cheese, bill http://www.geocities.com/~billmoss/main.html ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ooh, wot a lot of email, missus
by Elizabeth Daplyn 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Hallo peeps, 'ow ya doin'? You're entirely too verbose, the lot of youse. I wander insouciantly into the computer room at college, shriek mildly at the queue for email access, wait for ages, finally get on a pooter, shriek rather less mildly at the amount of mail I have, and end up having to delete loads of it in deference to more pressing matters. Like in ten minutes or so I have to go and ride my bike into town (narrowly avoiding death by Bastard Bus Driver on the Plain roundabout as usual) in order to draw a nekkid bloke. The trials of art-studentery, eh? Anyhoo, what I wanted to talk about: I had a dream the other night. Not the most astounding morceau d'information, but wait! I was playing hockey with the Lucksmiths on the village green equivalent of some small Italian town. Or it might have been Belgium. After we'd been playing for a while (myself violating the shoulder rule frequently) there was one of those weird segues you get in dreams and it all went a bit pearshaped. And Mark (darling bassist) cut his hand on something quite badly. But that was about it. I've got another cold! How nice it is to be continually snotty and on the verge of coughing up a lung, to be sure. So I got this cough medicine, right, and it's made from lemon, glycerin and HONEY. Something suspicious about that, right off, mate. Perhaps this explains why there has been little from Measter Mitchell of late. He has been minced, pureed and otherwise processed in order to form part of a soothing linctus for dying students. And there were loads of bottles left on the shelf too. Perhaps it's just cloned body parts... Ah well, the naked man is calling me. I must away and fetch my bike lights. Toodleoo, popkids! Liz :x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Milk Bottle Recycling
by Adrian Evans 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

John Warrender wrote : >Dreamy forgotten days when throwing a milk crate full of >empty bottles from the fourteenth floor was the most excitement >anyone could have anywhere in the whole world ever. ~ Or, If you lived in a much more upper class place like me, you would tie cotton round the necks of milk bottles and the other ends to a door knocker. Putting the milk bottles on the roof of this particular houses porch (cos posh places have porches), ring the door bell and stand back and admire you're handy work. Not quite as naughty as John, and not nearly as exciting, but the level of personal injuries was quite high. and then...... >Fucking Hell!!! He's real. Mr Duke is real. >So, can I come and visit >you? Can I stay at your house? Will you introduce me to some >of the nice girl pupils? You can come and stay with me John and then stalk the Duke, I feel this would be much more in keeping with the list. I know someone who lives just round the corner from him, who's front bedroom might just overlook the Dukes. We may be able to rent it out and take some binoculars round for some real fun :) Love Groover Miller wrote some misty water coloured memories including : 1) Adrian Evans claiming that 2 million Scots are permanently pissed Smashing, If there's something to be stepped in, you can guarantee I've got a willing foot. Another favourite of mine was my "Twelve Dead Animals of Xmas" carol in the days when I actually did some fucking work. Sure went down a treat with all you fox lovers :) 6) Mad Dog's shiny apple seduction technique I also remember Struans bar/biscuit problem. I feel the lists needs some more direction from the young pretender. Mummy Linda wrote : >Can I be Chris Leonard? Bloody hell I thought Chris was real. Turns out he's something akin to the poetry Parrot. No Linda, you have to be nominated. And then the Mad Dog himself wrote : >ps anyone want to make a video for dirty dream number two ? The French >label's screaming for one. They'll pay you to do it! >pss hello Chris Leonard Something you're not telling us Chris ? I think that those of us who are already list porn stars should get first refusal. Though I'm not doing anything with onions. Lucy Croxford.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The art of translating....
by Jordi Trenzano Vilar 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Mr. Peter Miller wrote: "PS: Jordi, I've had a look at your translations, they look OK to me, just one or two problems, which I'll point out to you tomorrow, probably on the list so that everyone can have a good laugh, if you don't mind." Oh, I?m really feared about what I wrote. I think that you, dear listees, know that my english level is not wonderful, and what I did was basically taken from the dictionaries. I went to the PJ Harvey + Gomez gig last tuesday. Maybe I expected more, but for four or five times the Zeleste club became a frightening place. Chris Leonard wrote: "Teenage Fanclub were ace, it was a very pleasant evening." I saw them at the (one thousand times mentioned) Benicassim Festival, and I agree completely. Before their show, Norman Blake went to a Karts circuit with some bottles of wine behind him. Then, he asked to the press if this was convicted. Nobody answered me why B&S didn?t came to that festival, when they were announced some weeks before the festival dates (8-10 august). I suppose that they had to finish completely "The boy with....", but I?m not sure. Does anybody know if the forthcoming Looper album will be available in Europe (excluding UK) ? Bye. Jordi. 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Re: Sinister: Belel & Sebastian for the heartbroken?
by alan.holding 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

-----Message d'origine----- De : Alexandra Duric <ajduric(a)hotmail.com> À : sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Date : jeudi 26 novembre 1998 15:30 Objet : Sinister: Belel & Sebastian for the heartbroken? > >hello listees, > >Right then, this is one of those delicate subjects.... i'd suggest an Ac/Dc record instead. Maybe "for those about to rock (we salute you)" Always works for me. alan PS: sorry you know who, only joking. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian for the heartbroken?
by Iangstl＠aol.com 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Alexandra wrote > I've noticed listees casually mentioning finding solace in the music of Belle & Sebastian and I'm wondering if I give her one of the albums, IYFS or TBWTAS, if maybe I'll be pulling her down even further, a fate I don't wish to tempt (believe me, this is the worst I've ever seen, and "suicidal" flickered into my head). Other than "wise" words, and an open ear, music is the only other thing I've turned to. Unfortunately, or fortunately, all my B+S listening experiences have been rather happy, so I cannot tell if I'll be doing the right thing.< As someone who has almost completely recovered from a life-threatening illness which has caused me to be housebound and on oxygen for over 4 months, I can attest to the healing power of B&S. Since smut is low for a girl with tubes in her nose and because words and song last longer than the typical tumble, music is my sanctuary. Also, I find B&S especially appealing for their ability to convey with ease the awkwardness that has plagued me in all my years. I think your coworker will appreciate the honesty and sincerity within the music and not feel so alone being alone. Finally, the sounds of a 30 year old still grappling with awkward innocence shines in a music world grown weary by 20 year old nihilists singing about their wasted years. I highly recommend you give your friend a tape today! About the Mullets..... In my Midwestern world, they are known as bilevels and guys usually got them because its short and "respectable" in the front and long and "rockin" in the back. I guess its their way of being able to hold down that bank job while saying boo to the business world too. So many of you seem so concerned as to the whys of it; thought you might like to know one reason. mwah, Dawn in my cd player: wire's ideal copy in my shoe: my kittens little mousy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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