November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Sean!! with flatmates!!! (at the V-Twin show)
by Karen David 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

hello list I'd just like to say I saw V-Twin in Glasgow last night and they were fantastic. They manage to play pretty much an entirely new set everytime they play. They were great, and the Fanclub were the best I've seen them for ages as well. David Kitchen sent us a load of e-mails from about the time we were in Philadelphia. It almost seems like a dream... I'm really sorry about the consequences of what happened. When I got back I also read a lot of really sweet mail that was sent before we made it over to the States. I'll try to get back to everyone, but I mean, if you were at the Philly gig, and maybe travelled a long way there, or to Toronto, and you're ever in Glasgow, then come and say hello, and we'll buy you breakfast at the cafe. It's the least we can do. Lots of love Stuart Murdoch ps anyone want to make a video for dirty dream number two ? The French label's screaming for one. They'll pay you to do it! pss hello Chris Leonard, I saw you last night but didn't get the chance to say hello psss I'm sure there was something else...oh yeah last time I posted something I didn't send it right and Neil sent it again for me and to wind me up he wrote The band speaks for a title, so if it says The band speaks or The band speaks up again! then you'll know that I haven't sent it properly again and that he is trying to get the rise again. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Arab Strap Interpretations
by Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Hi again! Katerina Karlsson (is your name right?) asked if anyone had any idea about what 'The Boy with...' meant. I was just about to ask exactly the same when I read her posting, and have been thinking about the issue these two latter days without achieving any results, must be said. All those references about 'prison', 'smoke and squalor is not your style' ..etc are enough to feel inmersed in a sordid underworld from our heroine struggles to escape .But in the end, she is lying in bed with this non scrupled , filthy guy again, because she gives up and regards there is no anyone different for her.But the lines about speaking out what troubles your mind make me strayed, and I am afraid my trying is totally useless. Sorry K.K. ! your dream about the doll was lovely, I would like to have dreams like that... However I believe I had some B&S dream tonight, and I could remember it when opened my eyes, but now I just have the impression.It's quite likely as I was too excited and nervous, couldn't sleep, though my eyes were so tired of reading 'Birthday Letters' by Ted Hughes, and I was listening to Tigermilk (that I had just been given yesterday evening by our own laureate poet Robin Stout) and the Radio Sessions like four times. By the way, there is a poem in 'Birthday Letters' about a fox, which was offered by some travelling seller to the Hugheses in a London tube station. Sylvia wanted to get it and Ted, always playing the sensible role of they two, refused, thinking of how much of a hassle it would be to bring up a fox cub in a flat in London ,with two kids, and Sylvia was hugely dissappointed. The fox cub is transfigured in a metaphora of their so different ideas about life, and Hughes reflects upon the fact if he could have saved her if he had handed over a little, if he had bought her the beautiful fox with hazel, smirky eyes, everything could have still changed So, yes, probably foxes work well as symbol of harassed, isolated people in trouble with themselves and because of that bringing trouble to another ones. Sorry for this long and melancholic message. I would like to do something pretty, but I wonder if I still can Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Christian Rock
by Linda Kerr 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Hi guys and gals Robert McTaggert wrote: >Personally, I think this is the result of Linda's EEVL project. >She's trying to swap our personalities around. I think I'm turning >into Keith. Unfortunately I did leave my work signature on one mail, thus giving away the day job, the EEVL project, which is the Sinister mailing list, funnily enough. You are all part of an experiment, funded by The Devil himself, and the evil Baby Jesus clone.. Belle and Sebastian were specially chosen as the focus for this hellish experiment, to pay back wee Struan for his advancement of Christian rock. Next we round you all onto an island on the Caribbean, on the promise of B&S live and naked and playing Lord Anthony, and Struan coaxes you to drink a sleepy drink and pass to the world beyond. You know he wants to. He is too pretty to be good. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Damn Can I be Chris Leonard? Linda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: tell him what we said 'bout "paint it black"
by brad 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

ah yes i remember the good ol' days, too, i do. hell, i remember when i used to only get about thirty mails a day and 75% of them would make me bust a nut with laughter. it didn't used to be thirty mails about grammar. shit, i even enjoyed the whole top ten list that went around. the best one was whoever did top ten numbers. hey, remember that time tag admitted to everyone that he quite thoroughly enjoyed the idea of prison sex and everyone gave him the silent treatment for two weeks......well, except for that ex-con guy from west virginia. whatever happened to him? and, hoo boy, remember when duke went mental and started extolling the virtues of stryper. he was even thinking of naming his book "to hell with the devil" 'til pjmiller talked him out of it. and speaking of pjmiller, remember that time he sent in a picture of a 12 inch turd that he had just laid and he had molded it into a perfect likeness of northy. and then honey kicked him off the list for not making a sculpture of him. here, i saved a copy of honey's pink slip to pjmiller: > dearest pj, > you sack of dick! i would've loved to have had my likeness carved in > crap, but noooooo, you had to go and carve that neo-nazi, northy! i > would've gladly donated various textures, sizes, and colors of shit. > so until i get a nice bust of myself in the mail made entirely of > human droppings, i hereby kick you off this list. be gone! ah! those were the days. now, i just end up deleting forty messages with the word "grammar" in the subject before i even read them. and tag rarely posts anymore (except for that welcome tirade earlier). and duke never taunts us with bands we've never heard of anymore. and pjmiller lost his fascination with fecal matter. and i don't give a fuck about whatever happened to northy. it's just not the same. go tell it round the mountain, brad p.s. someone invite me to the sha-na-na list. yes, i know it's sha-la-la, but it would be much better if it was a list about sha-na-na. any damn way, someone tell me how to get on and i promise to remain smut free. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i see you've met my faithful handyman
by Chris Leonard 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

yeeeiip morning it's cowboy chris in disguise as email, last night me and miss julia attended the 'grand ole opry' near GOVAN to see teenage fanclub, and it was tops in an achy breaky kinda way. Support was provided by the v-twin who were better than last time but still pretty damn awful, mostly cos the singers PISH. Teenage Fanclub were ace, it was a very pleasant evening. There was a high Belle and Sebastian presence. Wee chris and stevie (on a few tunes with the moothie) were playing with v-twin and sarah joined teenage fanclub on stage for the big finale which was purty. Struan Murdoch was there too, yelling "TURN IT UP FOR FUCKS SAKE" and "ENCORE!". How I smirked. But what impressed me most all evening was this: There was a man dancing like mad, with a beer mat on his head. I thought, that's a bit strange, to dance with a beer mat on one's head. He danced and danced till eventually he collapsed onto the stage. Meanwhile a fella standing behind him had not been dancing, just bopping a bit. On seeing that the first man had collapsed, the second fella cagily approached and stole the beer mat. He slowly put it on his own head and instantly started dancing like a maddie. You see it had magical properties, this beer mat. Speaking of which, welcome back duke. The building next door to my work burnt down yesterday, did any of you see it on the news? There were 219 fireman involved and the smoke was billowing and belching and we were all coughing and rubbing our red eyes. But would they evacuate the building? No. It was fucking scary, man. But it did made me think of a fiendish mind bender thus: You are in the school playground. You have a ropeswing, which swings between two platforms. One platform is labeled gay pop, the other christian rock. You can swing on the ropeswing with one arm whilst carrying one person (no more) under the other. You are standing on the Fay pop platform with stuart murdoch, isobel and sarah. What you have to do is get them all on the christian rock platform, before the end of playtime. But it's more complicated. Stuart and Isobel can't be left alone on a platform because they will 'snog' and get expelled. And Sarah and Isobel cannot be left alone on the platform because they will play their recorders, and recorders are banned at this school. You know the score. Don't send me answers, it's just for fun. spit nolan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: mmm...entrails
by Tjonrr＠aol.com 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

in Scotland we dont need thanksgiving- early next year we get to celebrate Burns night when we all get to dress up in skirts and eat sheeps stomachs filled with guts and stuff. jealous? you should be. sorry to waste your time. from tjohn. PS can i just recommend 'The Shoe' by Gordon Legge to anyone who hasnt read it? it reads sort of like one of them wee storys on the inside of B+S records.but longer. obviously. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Wa-hey We Were!
by PJMiller 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Let's talk about the good old days.....y'know, y'know...back when da hip was hop and de bunnies was a-hummin'....let's go back, way back...at times like these what the world needs most is another top ten sinister moments...so let's take that trip down memory lane...ain't no grammar lesson...ain't no birthday list...sure ain't about snoggin'...it's the sinister list, back when Sha-La-La was just a twinkle in Tim's discarded underpants.... 1) Adrian Evans claiming that 2 million Scots are permanently pissed 2) Trousers threatening to "dandle" us all on his knee 3) Keith's mistaken message to the Van Halen list 4) Brad's subtle reference to a recent pop illness: "Isobel shat in my ice cube tray" 5) Reid Dossinger and friend frightening Mad Dog and Ding Dong on the street at night 6) Mad Dog's shiny apple seduction technique 7) Lady Penelope's in-depth analysis of the Irish music scene, especially the Gavin Friday bit 8) Tag bumping into Rodd at the airport. It's a small but sinister world 9) Fluffy Sarah calling me a stale bucket of wee 10) Paul "Honey" Mitchell's behind the scene negotiations to get Augusto Pinochet subscribed during his stay in London "to impose a bit of fucking discipline on the list". Thank you for your time, Nostalgic Sister Disco In my way: a gaggle of angry owls (in my dream last night) PS: I was right about the football, wasn't I? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: MICK COOKE GOT LOVELY ARMS...
by Nikolas Montaldi 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

GOOD MORNING EVERYONE I know there is an ongoing obsession with Stuarts "Arms of Sex" on the list.I'm not really sure if I can share this and turn other peoples limbs into some sort of sexual fetish...Having said that I would just like to point out that Mick Cookes arms ar'nt bad as well. Im not 100% sure if they are arms of sex though;someone else will probably be able to tell us. I happen to know that that they are not bad because I had a look at them from close up some months ago in Leeds.Mick was standing extremely close to a table I was having lunch at;although I didn't really want to stare I couldn't fail to notice those very white arms with a great big blue vein. Now who was "Simple Things" all about?? But maybe Isobels' got nice big blue veins on her arms as well...I don't know.I just thought we should shift our attention from Stuart;nobody ever writes something about Mick or Sarah...whats wrong with them?I think Sarah seems to be extremely nice and talented...she might even have erotic ankles - you never know;don't underestimate girls with violins... Just a silly thought...Hope you are all well; NIK ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: its nice to meet you... (have a nice turkey!)
by L2raViolet＠aol.com 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

hallo...im another shy saggie daydreamer whos been peeping at your posts for the last couple a months, but could never quite muster up the guts to say: Hallo Everyone!...im branwyne. its nice to meet you! *sigh* i havent found any other sweetnsinisterines in my neighborhood (anyone 'round pasadena?) so ive started converting people one by one. its easy...my dad took to belle and sebby right off. sometimes i find him whistling *put the book back* whilst fixing dinner. my dog on paws, however, is still a bit puzzled by *if youre feeling sinister.* when it gets to the bits with the children laughing and shouting, his ears go up and he puts his snout up to the speaker and cocks his head to one side...and then the other. then he looks at me quizzically. tis really, sweetly amusing...(try it with someone furry and see!) well...happy un/birthday to everyone and i hope things work out with the (Very Naughty!) tongue kissing. have a nice turkey! love, ultraviolet- branwyne p.s. oh alright...i guess ill ask...would anyone be willing to send me a copy of the black sessions/tigermilk/Anything!...if i provide a tape, postage, $? i dont really have much in the way of tradables so i know this isnt a very enticing offer ...but if you have some excess x-mas spirit that you would like to shed...or are a pastels completist that wouldnt mind a sort-of-shoddy recording of a recent l.a. radio interview/live performance in which stephen(awww!) talks a little about b&s...well... let me know and i will love you till the end of my days. (thought id just give it a shot...) p.p.s someone once mentioned thier addiction to p.b. clif bars...mmm...carrottcake is very tasty too! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Julian Koster
by JonnyKat＠aol.com 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

Someone whose name is also my lucky number "3" wrote: "Sub-pop seems to be carving out a niche releasing off shoots and side projects of interesting bands, as they will tentatively also be releasing a full length by Music Tapes which is Julian's Neutral Milk Hotel off shoot. If anyone on the list hasn't checked out Neutral Milk Hotel's records yet, they are worth your while." Since Neutral Milk has been mentioned several times on the list recently, I thought I would add my thoughts here. Julian Koster is one of my dearest friends on this entire planet. His music is incredible, as is the music of Neutral Milk Hotel, Olivia Tremor Control, and all those lovely Elephant Six folks. For lovers of Belle and Sebastian, this stuff is very much in the same spirit, but in a different style. In fact, Julian and I (with the ones we love) spent much of this past Halloween together (drunkenly) listening to Belle and Sebastian at a volume that can only be described as LOUD. And we talked quite a bit about all of YOU -- so there! All good things, naturally. : ) Weren't there other list members there? Oh, it's all such a blur. Anyway, watch for The Music Tapes. It's a little slice of fuzzy P!O!O! genius that took Julian about three years to make. Direct your browsers to: http://www.pitt.edu/~jwfst11/elephant6/ for more info on the Elephant Six collective. Fare thee well my little sinisterines, and happy listening. Love and Kisses, Jonny Meow +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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