November 1998 - Sinister

Re: Re: Sinister: tongue kissing
by GaoBest＠aol.com 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

You know... it's interesting that with all this hoopla over J&A, most people have either condemned Jessica or condemned Jessica & Ahren, but no one's actually said anything negative solely with Ahren. If Ahren didnt want to shift Jessica because of "loyalty" to his girlfriend (who I'd say is more of a sex partner and not a girlfriend) then he could have just fended her off - instead, he welcomed her advance. If people really want to condemn someone over this (rather than minding their own business!) then I'd suggest blaming the person who already has the girlfriend/boyfriend - after all, regardless of the advance, it's really not that difficult to say "no" to a peer. mike ps - btw i loooved the "property" comment, I must You Go Girl to Tragedienne, that's a very witty B&Sism there :-) In a message dated 11/24/98 07:30:27 AM, tragedienne(a)yahoo.com wrote: <<"okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping." Normally, I would say "You go girl!!", but Ahren's got a girlfriend, so this makes the two of you partners in mischief. If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get a swift ass-whooping! Aren't there plenty of single men to seduce? God, some women just have no respect for other women's property!>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: SNOB=NO B&S?
by 3 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

---------- >From: Heather Marie Propes <asbuch(a)midway.uchicago.edu> >And yet, the whole subject of mullets, white trash, and bad taste in >general brings a larger problem to the surface for me, that is, who is in >charge of defining bad taste? why do you seek or need someone in charge of defining standards of taste for you? I ask this as someone who was indoctrinated >into the study of art history during its flirtation with >"poststructuralism," when you were taught to feel guilty if you asserted >that you actually liked a Flemish painting better than a work by an >untaught American folk artist, or a work depicting dogs playing pool on a >piece of velvet (excuse the kitschy, trendy examples) because, after all, >the divisions between "high" and "low" culture, have supposedly been >obscured in the postmodern era. why do you pay people to indoctinate you or teach you guilt? And yet, when you dare to assert that >something reveals bad taste, you get a whole host of people calling you a >snob and suddenly you don't feel so liberal anymore. This is a true >dilemma for me, because I like to think of myself as a liberal and a >fairly open, cosmopolitan person. Yet, I believe that there are certain >distinctions. How can these be justified? How can you not sound like a >snob? > >Heather > Hmmmmmm.....perhaps one could start by not throwing around pejurative classist snob put downs like "white trash" while snickering and giggling at haircuts you don't find hip enough. Sorry, but it's one thing to simply wander off topic, and another when that thread devolves into a bunch of squishily privileged student types ridiculing those that don't have the leisure to coast through life getting makeovers and new hairstyles every three months while collecting Pulp b-sides. So the haircut looks foolish to you. Great. Hopefully they are in turn laughing along at the realm of chumps buying magazines, heading into salons, replacing last years "Friends" hair cut with this year's "Ally McBeal." Hey, I know. Let's hear something about Belle and Sebastian...... The band made their recent American tour laminates out of black and white stills from "Leningrad Cowboys Go America", the hilarious film about the Finnish (?) bands misadventures across the U.S. Sarah designed them, with the title "Belle and Sebastian Go America." Looper are releasing a full length album/cd on Sub-Pop next spring. Sub-pop seems to be carving out a niche releasing off shoots and side projects of interesting bands, as they will tentatively also be releasing a full length by Music Tapes which is Julian's Neutral Milk Hotel off shoot. If anyone on the list hasn't checked out Neutral Milk Hotel's records yet, they are worth your while. "On Avery Island" from 96 is mostly 4 track fuzz folk, this year's "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" is cleaner and yet still an entire world to get lost inside. Merge puts them out here in the States while the recently collapsed Blue Rose label in England issued them in the UK. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: mullet in your head
by Martin Horsfield 26 Nov '98

26 Nov '98

I've thoroughly enjoyed the mullet conversation myself. About two years back, I was discussing ith some friends whether it would ever be possible for anyone to make moustaches fashionable again. Sure enough, some weeks later, there was Shaun Ryder on the front cover of the NME with a full-blown muzzie. So, it's down to you Shaun. Have you got what it takes to squeeze into a pair of acid wash jeans and a cap sleeved T- shirt and make the mullet rock again? Personally I reckon everything's poosible in the self-referential world of pop. I saw Hugh Pooh Stick wearing a Boston T-shirt at a festival once and he looked immediately like the coolest person on earth. Of course, a mullet revival really would be irony gone mad... Unfortunately, the bus stories seem to have petered out just lately. But if anyone wants to read a good book written by a bus driver, no less, let me reccommend Magnus Mills' 'The Pursuit Of Beasts'. It's a really deadpan, whimsical short story; the kind of thing that Will Self used to write (without his relentless pseudery). Lastly, did any listees see Velocette last week? Though their pop suss is sometimes undermined by rampant effects pedal abuse, their singer has the shiniest hair in pop. A Timotei endorsement must surely follow. PS/ To Fluffy Candarel: I know all about the horrors of Preston, it's the town of my birth, but lay off Chorley; it's the land of 1,000 pubs, you know. Fair enough, if you want to drink among the over 16s, you have to look further afield but, hey, that's a matter of taste. As for Elephant & Castle, though I enjoy living here, its psychedelic pink shopping centre makes your Fishergate and St George's look like Vegas. Martin Horsfield, pisces +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts?
by Andras Zalan Szolnoki 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

>>A mullet cut is short on top and sides and long at the back. I thought that this was called the Rudi Voller haircut (after the famous german footballer) , and usually its accompanied by a large mustache (and only a mustache , nada mas). From what I've learned at school this hair cut became very popular on the eastern side of the iron-curtain , as they belived this to a symbol of democracy and prosperity. As far as I know the R.V. haircut is still popular amongst icehockey players , footballers from the former communist states and Def Leppardzz fans. I saw a painting of a fox in the snow at work today ..... it looked hungry....and a bit sad. Anybody here who wants to take part in a little debate?????? yes????? If a piece of cheese , letssay a piece of cheddar , would take on a sofa in a game of curling who would come out on top???? And why wasn't the rhino invited??? Ciao Szola ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: thanksgrubbing
by milla |razorkandy| 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

i also feel sorry for all the brits who don't celeb. thanksgiving as i am a brit who does. any listees in the region of cambridge, uk who are on for Stuff on thurs 26th evening should mail me privately. Iss always nice to see people yoo haven't yet met. there will be turkey tinsel music friends and film (+ serendipity). My party is called trash and glory. what's yours called? i wear a duffel coat. Ive had it since I was 9. does that make me twee? what if I wear it with stack boots and dungarees worn down (pants showing)and a brownies tshirt? and big headphones and a lip stud? this goes out to all yoo social deconstructors out dere....teehehe ................milla... **boo to the business world** ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: ....canadian west coast?
by ECHODEK1＠aol.com 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

Mark great taste.....mogwai is amazing michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ....canadian west coast?
by ECHODEK1＠aol.com 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

hello... Anyone here from the Canadian west coast?....... Whats in my stereo?.....Mogwai - Young Team +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Someone tell me it's all a bad dream
by mctag＠bigfoot.com 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

Some questions: How much imagination does it take to say "I can't believe no-one has a crush on me" when ten people have already said the same thing? How many people really care when your birthday is? While the kisses in the stock room between two people most of us have never met are very sweet, does it honestly merit an ongoing discussion? Is it me, or is quibbling over grammar really fucking boring? How come I've just had more digests in 24 hours than ever before and yet the only thing I feel inspired to write is "unsubscribe sinister-digest"? I know at least three people whose have entertained and amused over the past twelve months who have either unsubscribed or are not posting, because of certain people who seem to think that the minutae of their lives is so fascinating to total strangers. I used to wonder why people complained about posts that weren't interesting to them, "there's always the delete key", I thought. I wonder no longer. I know I don't always (often) write on-topic, and I'm all for people sharing little anecdotes about themselves, so long as they're done with wit or intelligence or imagination, but if you're going to write something that's of interest to half a couple people, mail it to them not to me. I know it's Paul's job to tell people off, and some of you are probably asking who the hell I think I am, but I like this list, it's been good to me, and I feel a certain loyalty to it. But I'm actually embarrassed by some of the crap I've been reading lately, and I know there's a few others who feel the same. That's all, I'll try and be funny next time. Tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Happy Happy Happy Harringay!
by PJMiller 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

Welcome back, Duke of Harringay! I hope you will be a sobering presence in these troubled times. It certainly wasn't me that was so exuberantly rude to you, it was a Carmen Miranda's hat of rudeness, you know. I'd be inclined to give the guilty person a bunch of fives. After all, you've got your reputation to think about. Queen Bee Janine appears to share her birthday with one of our list uncles, Augusto Pinochet. I hope you both have a lovely day. You don't fool me, Ethelreddy. Despite your nice farewell message, I know you're just going round the corner to the Sha-La-La list, like all the other turncoats. Mark my words, you'll be back. Just like Duke. Right, I'm off to watch the football, it should be quite exciting tonight. Last night I successssssssfully predicted the exact moment at which Phil Babbs would tuck his shirt in. Whoops, that was a dull as fuck in joke. keep the faith Peter PS: Jordi, I've had a look at your translations, they look OK to me, just one or two problems, which I'll point out to you tomorrow, probably on the list so that everyone can have a good laugh, if you don't mind. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: yumm... grammar
by Bluvelour＠aol.com 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

okay, so i didn't mean *always*. usually. okay? i think what i meant was that in a situation like that, if there's a preposition, than it's always followed by "whom" or "whomever". am i right in saying that? 'cause i can;t think of a single situation in which one would say "to who". i should would on wording such things a bit better, no? xo cindycola +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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