December 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: A guide for Belle and Sebastian no-good-niks
by Reid Dossinger 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Hello, all. I know you've been worried sick about me, but I've been okay. For some reason (I won't go accusing people of writing in to get me off the list, even though we all know that's what happened and they're after me again because I know too much, etc.), I just simply stopped getting those lovely digests. At first I thought maybe things had just died down a bit for silent appreciation of the horns in "Slow Graffiti", but then I realized, "Surely *someone* must have something to say about nothing of interest." Sure enough, I'd gotten the boot for what was mostly likely just a mechanical glitch. Strangely enough, I manged to do without pretty damn well, considering. I was exiled to the strange land of "Winston-Salem", where I watched TV and was hungry at no point for two whole days. I saw a documentary about Metallica and watched Maryland lose to Kentucky. One of those things made me sad. What brings me here is a guide to liking those B&S songs you don't like. I normally wouldn't touch this topic with a disinfected baseball bat, but the best thing about B&S to me is...well, I'm picky. Very, very picky. I drive my friends nuts when we discuss music, because nothing is good enough for me. And I don't think B&S have set a single foot wrong. Sure, they've made a few weird, possibly ill-advised decisions, but none of their songs are "appalling" or even bad. The only thing is, it's sometimes a challenge to find the treat inside the cracker-jack box that is every B&S song. So, a little help on some of the more difficult ones: * Fox in the Snow: Turn the volume up to a ludicrous level, sit somewhere where you won't be disturbed, and if the first 20 seconds don't make you swoon...well, there's really nothing that anyone can do for you. You may as well just end it all right now. * This is Just a Modern Sock Bong: This one you have to put in the "60's folk-pop" category. It's got that old folky verse-after-verse arrangement to it, but then it's got these oblique '90's lyrics. And if you think Stevie sounds anything less than angelic, then you need to be re-examined, because "subject is able to function in normal society" was obviously a mis-diagnosis. Plus, you can at least appreciate it for one of the best closing lines EVER since "Frank Mills". If this doesn't help, give up on music. Sell your collection back and buy knitting supplies. * The Boy Done Wrong Again: Sure, it isn't the most *exciting* song they've ever done, but if you use the same technique that you've already used to appreciate Fox In the Snow, you should be well on your way to appreciating it as simply "pretty". If the concept of appreciating things simply because they're pretty bothers you, then you're obviously very ugly and bitter about it. Join the Korn email list. They probably *love* talking about stuff they think sucks. * You Made Me Forget My Dreams: "You Made Some People Forget to Have Good Taste" more like! Do I have to come over there and shake you?! Look: a) the ending, b) the lyrics (try reading the booklet this time), c) "There was blood on the sheets again". Have you actually *listened* to this song or are you just trying to be popular and go along with what the kids at the back of the bus are saying? They don't really like you anyway. They're just pretending to be your friend so they can swim in your pool. Sucker. * "Chickfactor": Of ferchristsakes! It's the music, not the lyrics. This one...I can see the problems with it, but Isobel said in her interview in Chickfactor (ooh, how appropriate!) that she considers her cello part in it to be the best part she's ever come up with, and if you have a problem with that, then keep looking over your shoulder, because Lesley has a crowbar she calls "Friend of Izzy" that helps her 'fix' Ms. Cambell's critics. Oh, never mind...you can dislike this song if you want. I'll give you permission *and* a laminated Hate pass. * The Gate: remember that '60's song that goes "I think it's so groovy now that people are finally getting together"? They played it before they came on in Athens. This song is like that one. Don't try to compare it to Stars of Track and Field or State That I Am In or anything else. It is, like Chickfactor, totally unique. And it's still a good song. What's my point? Oh, I don't know. I get to go home now and make Christmas cookies. Oodles of sarcastic love, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: It's already Thursday, and soon it'll be Friday night
by poetryplace2 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Sorry I've been away, boys and girls, but I'm currently on the run. You might remember that last time I was here, I threatened to spill the beans on the mysterious cabal that is Sha La La. I shoulda known they wouldn't let me get away with it.... When I got home that night I was horrified to discover the severed head of a My Little Pony in my bed. The next day I received a threatening letter, composed with individual letters cut out of old copies of Bunty magazine. And then the men in the black anoraks started appearing... So I'll make this quick. As Mr Miller helpfully informed you the other day, this Friday at 7.30pm is the Sinister Xmas party at the Poetry Cafe on Betterton Street in Covent Garden, London. Everyone is welcome. It's gonna be a fiver to get in, which is a bit more than usual, but there will be plentiful food provided. Contrary to Petula Pumpkin-Wumpkin's suggestion, this will not consist of beans on toast, but will be a grand affair arranged by my friend Edward the Italian Chef. As if this wasn't enticing enough, I can reveal that we will have a guest of honour.... The other day I received a message from a certain student of Bangor University, confirming that he would attend. Yes, Richard North himself will there. The very thought of the young knight Northy finally meeting his Jedi Master, Tag, gets me all a-quiver. It will surely match the moment Keith met Roddddd at Shepherd's Bush for poignancy. For full details see the noticeboard on the jeepster page or email me privately. Avanti! Stevie Trousers +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Rollercoaster Debate
by Trevor T Treadmill 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

I think that Rollercoasteride is overlong and dull, but that Chickfactor is a thing of beauty (it's those drumrolls, I reckon). Plus, I'm built like a shit brickhouse, and will take on anyone who disagrees. C'mon then! C'mon. === Nobody knows I'm a lesbian _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: experimentation? pah!
by Declan McGurk 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

the 'settee' guru once wrote: >>Why on earth can't people except that a band might want to move on and >>experiment with different sounds. i dont recall saying the new ep was different. well yeah i did but i used a word like 'disappointing'. i hadn't considered it to be an experimentation. it just sounded a tad crap. and if that's what doing experiments does to you then why do people do it? the mighty Ash changed their fantastic sound for the last album and ended with something a long way from the magic of 1977. i like bands for what they are. leave other bands to change 'their' sound. saying that though Korn have got better. and no knob-cheese please. and shuttup with this subjective, objective stuff. music IS either good or bad. but not all people realize this due to oppression or lack of opinionating themselves. i'm probably talking b*llocks meself anyway. what i am saying is: here is the definite list of the worst belle and sebastian songs - 1 The Boy Done Wrong Again (wah wah wah). what the f*** is that?!! 2 Chickfactor. yes please keep the bloke from vocals. 3 Seymour Stein. see above. can i continue? cool. Isobel has got a sorted voice. IWISHIWASACAR is one of the bands best songs. OTHER STUFF: my grammar's fine. i'm flawed, but leave my writing alone. i've got to do a mock art exam based on depiction of animals on Thursday. i'm doing 'sly as a fox'. but wait here's the genius bit. i'm drawing a fox in Rambo gear. SLY as a fox. eh? i think its well good. so there ya go. love you all later, Dec

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Sinister: Rollercoaster Debate
by David Clewett 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

It seems as though all are engaging in a debate which could continue eternally, While Chickfactor isn't all that, I have to admit it still beats any song from most other bands by astronmical units.. The Rollercoaster Ride, however, is definately a top tune. It takes a subject, that EVERYBODY can relate to: human emotions, and takes a "bird's eye" perspective, if you will. Not only do B&S take such a broad subject but they personify it and place it in different settings, as they do so well; veritably, B&S are the modern Bob Dylan, only better, but we won't touch that. Furthermore, they turn the subject into a very whimsical song. How many people do you know need pharmaceutical to fix their brains? I know more people than not with this predicament. And how can anybody overlook the musical beauty of the masterpiece? Isobel... harmonizing, need I say more? Isobel...I coooo for yooouuuu... Eddie HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: May Lah Kah
by Kevan Cooke 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Hi folks, First and foremost hugs and kisses to the New York listees I met on Saturday, and I *really* hope that none of you picked up the nasty cold that had reduced me to a croaking wheezing wreck. The up side of being ill whilst on holiday is that you get to spend a lot of your time watching adverts in your hotel room. There was one in particular that I just have to repeat here for your delectation: Small girl runs grinning into shot. Girl: "Mummy! Daddy! Come see!" Parents follow girl to living room and discover that it is full of christmas gifts, electrical appliances, a car, etc. Father: "Those must have been some cookies you left Santa!" Girl: "I didn't leave him cookies... I left him cheese" Cuts to picture of various cheeses. Voiceover: "Behold the power of cheese!" Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I think I may die for this one.
by Gary Done 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Hello all... Mr Miller wrote... "I'm surprised to see that Everett True is such a hey fatty bum bum! I thought he would be lean and mean and prowl the streets like a pop tiger. I should sack him if I were you Duke. " Yes please do, I hate Everett True, he's such a brown nosing tosser. Speaking of tossers, Fluffy wrote... "GIRLS! We're forming a girl group now, no boys allowed. WANKERS!!! You're all WANKERS!!! Oh well, apart from a few who are alright. You can't help being MALE OPPRESSORS MAN! I like JJ though, JJ's cool. Mmm, nice. Honeys nice too. Garys nice. WHo else is nice. Whoever. I don't care.....I don't care...thats a HMHB song that i've forgotten.... Sorry." It's Running Order Squabble Fest. "I don't care, I don't care, hello boys there's a change of plan, YOU'RE GOING ON AFTER CRISPY AMBULANCE...repeat in a football terrace chant style a few times". Anyway, how come I'm only third on your list of nice blokes and I didn't get an Mmm nice. Right you're dumped for that. 87) "Then I was told to come along to se Tony Hadley at Squires tonight by Frankie. I jest not, Tony Hadley from T'Ballet is playing a top (hehe) preston Niteklub. " PAH!, Tony Hadley, I'd rather have gone to see Beppe from Eastenders at Tokes, or Les Battersby at least. "English tomorrow!! Lessons Thursday! Ross's house and alky-hol on Friday, then someone elses house, then another pub, and then more alky-hol, then me probably dying from drink poisoning or something" What you mean like being sick all night or something ?. 87) That's all Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: BIS
by Jonathan 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Oooooh, Sorry i pissed you off your high horse, Is there actually anything wrong with that post or do you care so much for the mighty BIS. Tar +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: BIS
by Jonathan 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Just a thought, BIS ARE SHITE. Thank you. Jon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: everyone thought it was a shame
by r. h. 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

>ps: brad and robbie are clearly the spawn of satan and shouldn't be >allowed to corrupt dear cardie-wearing poppets with their evil >programme of indoctrination. sha na na want your soul. resist! ouch baby that hurt. let me clear for the record that noone wants your soul although their is some weird alein floating around the list now that might want to give you an anal probe. and i don't even know brad i don't know where anyone got that. well not personally at least. we met one night in a sex chat line. but we do want to make you laugh or should i say you make us laugh. and apparently girl you got the goods. an attempt like that to make fun of someone could make you queen of the sha na na. but we do have straight conversations like just yesterday courtney blessed us all with great stock tips. now girl give big daddy a hug and be on your way. as far as belle and sebby go whoever said that "you made me for get my dreams" was shit is.........well, intitled to their own opinion. and that is a good thing right? but for whoever said that stevie didn't sound good on TIGGERJAMMIES should be taken out and beaten. and remember kiddies, it's hard to read sarcasm. robbie. > >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Rachel Playforth >rap101(a)york.ac.uk >http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm >------------------------------------------------------------------- > >"Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon." > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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