December 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Just a thought.
by Gary Done 17 Dec '98

17 Dec '98

Hello all, Quite a few posts on the negative side tonight, some I agree with, one in particular, won't name it to protect the innocent though. I'm disappointed that the Duke has decided not to sack that git True though, no chance of you changing your mind is there ?. I was just wondering why anyone would want to change B&S at all, try asking yourself why you fell in love with their music in the first place. If you don't like Stevie's singing fine, but why stop the chap doing it. Who cares if they don't want to do interviews. It's just publicity after all, it's the music you love not the interviews. You don't form a band so you can sit around all day doing interviews after all. If they don't want to sell their souls to the great god of corporate whores, surely that's a good thing. They're managing to sell a decent amount of records on the strength of the music and a little bit of mystique. And all this banter about whether a certain song is good or not. Come on, you can't expect them to write top notch tracks that everyone is going to like all the time. Every band has it's bad songs. Personally I like The Gate, but there are lots of songs I don't like. It's personal taste that's all and there's a voting booth where you can express how much you rate all the B&S songs. There's no way you're going to love all the songs all the time, or it's very rare. There'll always be one track you like slightly less than the last one. This isn't aimed at anyone in particular, I'm just in a shit mood and all this petty squabbling is getting a bit irritating. Sorry if I offended anyone, it wasn't intentional, I just wanted to have my say as is my right as a member of this list. I still say the Duke should sack Everett True mind you. 87) Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: me and the WHO?
by DMBesPhish＠aol.com 17 Dec '98

17 Dec '98

ahhh sorry for anyone thinking this has any content about the who. you were mistaken. but it sort of just went along with my....alright time to get talking. well first of all about them being famous and all. *recently* i did a speech on b&s and one of the things i said in it was, "one of the reasons i like b&s is because they dont try to be the sort of band that everyone will like. or try and be on some big record label so they can sell as many records as humanly possible. they try and have a close relationship with their fans. and they have showed me that money and fame isnt all that important after all. and i admire b&s for their uniqueness, individuality and their will to do that...thats something not every band you come across is capable of doing, you know." yes, yes, word for word. well i suppose those are just my thoughts on the subject..im off xo, jackie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Not in the face! Not in the face!
by Mick McMick 17 Dec '98

17 Dec '98

Hullo, Jarkko FrXntilX writes... > Ok, on to other stuff now. I've been thinking, all you guys seem to be > quite big fans of you-know-what-band. Well, maybe we should have a > discussion about the WORST songs from B&S. Maybe some kind of a "worst > three songs by B&S" discussion? Hmmm, hard, I know. But I just listened > to "You made me forget my dreams", and I thought it was a bit: > > a) > Dull, musically and > > b) > lyrically a bit daft. > > 'Cause I have a hunch that you guys CAN be objective about music, even > about B&S... Some people have critisized "The gate" in here, but I cant > really say a thing about it since I STILL don't have that new > single/EP/whatever it is. Fooking recordstore, they're slow as hell... The reason no one has done this is because you can't be objective about music, as it is...ta da, a subjective medium, like painting, pottery, performance art, lithography, printmaking, mixtape-making, or e-mailing. Well, all but that last one. You can sometimes find a lot of people who like one song, or a lot of people who don't like a song, but there is usually someone who likes each B&S song, even "You Made Me Forget My Dreams." Just because someone is in the minority on something, it doesn't make them wrong, at least in this case. For instance, I finally got the DJMARSBAR EP and I think that Modern Rock Song is one of the most boring B&S songs ever. Now, as I've noted in people's reviews, I'm not alone in disliking it. I don't feel that just because I don't like it, it's objectively bad, as that's just silly. I just don't happen to like it. To me it sounds like B&S covering themselves, and doing it rather uninspired and long-winded. The lyrics certainly are ace, though. Just a few differences between the studio and the session versions. Okay, and whoever said The Gate was their worst song, it appears to have set out quite a debate. It *does* sound a lot like Go Sailor (Tiger Trap and T. Gosh were too punk to sound like that, most of the time) but in a charmingly B&S way. Yes, the lyrics aren't the wonderfullest, and yes, the chorus is kinda weak, but I still like the song a lot. It reminds me of some solo material my friend did, except I like her voice better than Isobel's (and 99% of the other humans on this planet) and she doesn't have a small orchestra of Glaswegians backing her. Oh, and the organ bits at the end of the song sound like they were nicked from the amazing session version of Sleep the Clock Around. Nice to hear them, finally, a shame they weren't on Sleep the Clock Around though, it might have turned out a bit better. Gotta hurry, so this'll be quicker... I Know Where the Summer Goes, nice surprise there, didn't expect it to sound so good. Live it wasn't really amazing, but recorded it is a relaxing jaunt along the lines of most of TWATTYBUS. And lastly, Slow Graffitti is wonderful, utterly. Somehow it even surpasses the session, probably because you can hear all the parts. I can't say a whole lot about it, and if I do I'll probaly be late for work, so I'll just let that be all about it. I must say that without The Gate to break it up, this EP might grate on me as sounding too similar, and might get me wondering if B&S had gotten in a rut. Well, without the Gate and SLow Graffitti I guess. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995(a)ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Me And The Major
by Mark Cerzinski 17 Dec '98

17 Dec '98

Ok People, Here's the deal. I think it's starting to get plainly obvious that Jeepster just aren't pushing Belle and Sebastian hard enough or far enough. It's ludicrous that they've been getting away without doing any proper interviews and not having their photos in the music press. We're their fans and we deserve better. Would it really have been so difficult to prune a track from the Modern Rock Song EP so that we could at least get excited listening to the new chart rundown? And even dreaming about a slot on "Top of the Pops" for the best band in Britain would be better than nothing, no hope at all. I really think B&S should sign to a major label now, before the potential they have is lost. They would be promoted better, have better tours in proper, established venues and their records would be easier to find and buy. Let's face it, B&S are a Radio 2 band. Grannies listen to Radio 2 and they buy their CDs in Woolies and Asda. They need a major label. Thanks for listening, Love, Mark xxx ***************************** Mark Cerzinsky 78 Victoria Street Headingly Leeds L56 1DR e-mail: MCerzinsky(a)hotmail.com "They've put a man on the moon and they can't even cure the common cold!" ***************************** ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Me And The Major
by David Clewett 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

What i'm wondering is: what on this blue earth do b&s want? are they in this for the money? something tells me no. do they want to be famous and prestigious? the road that b&s need to follow is the road that will please THEM the most. they way i see it the band is about b&s making music that they see as beautiful, the masses can take it or leave it but as long as b&s are quite happy with what they do then their music will show and we will all be a bit more felicitous. i doubt not that everybody here will agree that they are one of the most talented bands around. As far as the worst b&s song list goes, i don't give a rat's arse as to what songs are placed there; they are still all better than the other shite i have heard recently edwin -- > >On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Mark Cerzinski wrote: > >> >> Ok People, >> >> Here's the deal. I think it's starting to get plainly obvious that >> Jeepster just aren't pushing Belle and Sebastian hard enough or far >> enough. It's ludicrous that they've been getting away without doing any >> proper interviews and not having their photos in the music press. We're >> their fans and we deserve better. Would it really have been so difficult >> to prune a track from the Modern Rock Song EP so that we could at least >> get excited listening to the new chart rundown? And even dreaming about >> a slot on "Top of the Pops" for the best band in Britain would be better >> than nothing, no hope at all. I really think B&S should sign to a major >> label now, before the potential they have is lost. They would be >> promoted better, have better tours in proper, established venues and >> their records would be easier to find and buy. Let's face it, B&S are a >> Radio 2 band. Grannies listen to Radio 2 and they buy their CDs in >> Woolies and Asda. They need a major label. >> >> Thanks for listening, >> Love, >> Mark xxx > HotBot - Search smarter. http://www.hotbot.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I LIKE BIS
by Stephanie 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

So does that mean I'll get kicked off the list by Brad and Robbie? Or I am I just banned from Sha Na Na? And to further disagree with people, I LIKE STEVIE JACKSON too. Chickfactor is an okay song. It is not the best one, but not the worst either. What is the worst?...hmmm...I don't know. It took me a while to get into It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career. But it is an ace song now. Still not my favorite, though. Actually I think Chickfactor might be my least favorite Belle & Sebby song. But Seymour Stein is ace. I like Stevie's singing. Um, Stevie rules. Yeah. My friend says I pronounce his name weirdly. After reading posts about the video shoot here in Athens now I really wish I had gone. I used finals as an excuse to not go. Of course I didn't study much and will now proceed to fail all my classes, but hey, why does that matter? A university education is a vastly overrated thing, isn't it? Yeah, I say that while typing this and not studying for my Telecom final tomorrow morning. Also tomorrow my friend is giving me the Sarah 100 compilation and the Elf Power Cd for Christmas and my birthday. Yeay!!! :) Cheers & love, Stephanie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sophie Aldred is GOD. As is Kevin Turvey.
by J Errington 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Hello listies! I wonder what you've been up to since yesterday. I don't know because of the time delay you know. But hey hey I've got plenty to work on here. First of all that Biondello fellow incurred my wrath by spurting these foulnesses, which it pains me to even repeat: > Whether or not list c****s are a good thing is indeed debatable (Sophie > Aldred's a minger, for a start) *splutter* does not even start to describe the shock and the rage. How DARE you slur *my* Sophie that way you..you..you.. CAD! Sophie is a god amongst us and we are blessed with her presence. Such remarks are not only tasteless but blasphemous. This is your last warning, Bio-boy! Did anyone see the last episode of Belle & Sebastian: the early years last night? It was very good - Sarah kicked Chris Evans in the bollocks, Isobel & Stuart M finally got it together and they hired a hypnotist to rid Chris of his rampant libido. Oh, and they got to make an "atmospheric" video for 'the Boy.' My second-favorite list grudge winge'd: > Oh dear. Weej, one of your rabbits has same name as one of my cats, and > you want to deny the special bond that gives us? I can't help thinking > how devastated I'd be if I cared. Oh Tag, I feel your pain, of course. But you know, bygons may be bygons but this isn't a bygone, if you follow me. But don't. Alright, I forgive you for being a waste of space. *Mwa* there, that's better isn't it? Now go play with brad. Which rabbit by the way? Charlotte has got that watery-eye thing, which any rabbit-owner will know as 'trouble'. Ally had some good Castro/CIA anecdotes but he forgot the spy they sent who turned out to be in love with him and the poisoned milkshake in his fridge which went off and was thrown away. And before I go I noticed this in my mailbox: > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 08:45:52 PST > From: "Beth Tilston" <bobbins2000(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Sinister: Rainy people > Hello, I'm new and uninitiated. I need someone to look after me and share > their kitkat with me at breaktimes. I am sitting here in the library with > the smell of rainy people in my nostrils and trying to work out what the > hell some of you are going on about. What is this rabbit/clotted cream > thingy all about? Someone help me please! > Bye Bye > Love Beth T XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Hey hey hey! the replacement Beth I ordered has arrived! Going mad with boredom, WeeJay xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Modern capitalism, organising the reduction of all social life to a spectacle, cannot offer any other spectacle than that of our own alienation" james(a)twopounds.u-net.com (my site kills browsers) http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Cabaret/5523/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: EP stuff
by Suzanne Schroeder 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 03:30:01 EST > From: Ewansknob(a)aol.com > Subject: Sinister: bathing in a sea of lemon jello > > the gate is alright enough. count me in as an isobel defender.. > > stevie thomas jackson, however, is an entirely diffferent matter altogether. > why do they let the man sing, or worse yet, write songs? > i like seymour stein, especially the smiths references, > but the first song on the new ep should be called > "this is just a good song except for the bit when stevie sings"; > and i agree with whoever said that chickfactor is simply appalling: > trite lyrics, poor arrangement, lack of discernible structure or melody or... > i could go on Does anyone also notice his themes to his songs? It;'s always something about stardom! Was anyone ever specifically chasing him through the streets like the Beatles? All I ever heard about was Stuart and some about Isobel. There is a bit of distinctive charm to his voice---it reminds me of Ringo. > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 14:41:29 EET > From: "Jarkko Fräntilä" <frantila(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: Sinister: orgasm > > Some american scientists discovered that a sneeze is 1/1000000 of an > orgasm. Does that mean that if i buy some sneezepowder and invite some > friends to my place we'd have a minor orgy? Hmm.... (looking at the calender and seeing my first major allergy attack of the season is 3 months off) Damn. > Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:41:09 -0000 > From: Adrian Evans <AEvans(a)devon-cc.gov.uk> > Subject: Sinister: TCS Operational Costs > > Declan McDeclan Wrote : > > Just Another... EP: mightily disappointing. will the band ever reach the > = > heights of 3.. 6.. 9.. again?= > > Do you want a regular or large portion of knob-cheese with that sir ? > > Why on earth can't people except that a band might want to move on and > experiment with different sounds. Go out and buy yourself another copy > of 369.. and snowpake the title out and call it what you like. People have got their favorite sound. What can ya do? > I for one think the EP is fuckin excellent, apart from TIGHTJUMPERS > which only gets going after about 4 minutes which therefore in my eyes > makes it a 3 minute gem. Yeah, it always cheeses me. I have to wait for the Dostoeyevsky part before I get into it. Currently, it's my favorite part of any song.....especially the 4 boys in their cuorduroys line. It makes me very impatient to sit through the rest of the song to get to that part. The rest of the ep is good.....I would explain if I could, but the mellowness of the summer song.....which is another thing aboutB&S that could use a bit of tweaking. They seem to find one subject such as summer and go with it a bit too many songs. Even though it's a great melody and everything, it seems like they truly use every lyric they have ever written....as if they will run out of them and have to close up shop due to lack of inventory. s.s. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: my chickfactor two cents...
by Sebastian 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

My nominations for the top two worst BS tracks go to A) Bourgwoozie B) Chickfactor Sinister vs. Arab Strap is witty & uppity vs witty, moody and mature ROCK STAR - - witty (at times) and moody has B&S olded already? to the root, not the fruit! ___________________________________________________________________________ My ski vest has buttons like convenience store mirrors and they help me see That everything in this room right now, is a part of me +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Pooey day
by Pishco＠aol.com 16 Dec '98

16 Dec '98

Hallo bell-end sebastian fans I am new I also like this band very much too .they 'rock' man. Hi to all my buddies from 'the shopping trolleys' list you guys are so cool. anyway I am looking today at all you ugly kids' photos on the site when I say wow! who is this beautiful example of aqualine loveliness 'funkiseb'? He orgasms me big time, and tingles my nose cavetiessohfucKIT. Hi popkids. I just thought I'd pop in and say merrybastardchristmas to you all. (And try and notch up a crush point or two under an assumed name of course.) This is a pooey day. 1) Michael Aspall brought his big red book round to my office, but it wasn't for me. 2) Everyone I work with has gone to get pissed, network, eat a lot, and be on telly, but they wouldn't let me on the bus. 3) The girl I love, who said she loved me,hated me all along. 4) She loves my flatmate 5) I gave up smoking today 6) I have no food 7) I gave up smoking today What a deeply morbid time of year this is. The constant wind steals your breath and whips your skin, the cold gently kills you, limb by limb, and the freezing river shines blacker than ever under every bridge. Just the time for a tea party! Pubs too crowded? Picnics out of the question? Parties just too socially demanding? TEA! CAKE! (FINE) WINES! You know I'm right. No details as yet, but I'm working on it. Funkyseb's Winterval Cakeathon... Rah! All invited. Bring a cake and/or wine. I shall provide tea. Candles! Open fires! Muffins. Crumpets! Hands up who thinks this is a fab idea! And it's all mine, not even slightly Lady P's. Uh huh. My idea. I am the Cake King. Anyway, e mail me if you're interested, kids. Suggest a date. This e mail's poo but I've no idea what you're talking about on the list so I can't join in in any detail. Actually, I'll make a guess: <<...ooh isn't the m****** m***** horrid? david and katrina can you lock up struan in your Kensal Road dungeon so no one can take pictures of him or ask him if he likes cake except us listees?>> <<i hate that sell-out poorag M****** M**** they're just trying to save their jobs by putting a big pop band on the front page.>> <<dear honey, have you seen that MM poo? How's the list going to cope with all the new fans? I mean literally dozens of people must have read that paper last week. See some of you at the xmas party on friday. I hope you've all found presents:-) byebye seb **************P*I*S*H*************** If you enjoyed this e mail feel free to reward the author with packets of cigarettes or little tiny dairy milk bars. Postal address availiable on application +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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