December 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: US Cultural Imperialism
by Chris Butler 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

Must be the TBlair syndrome. I agree that U.S. does have a certain sort of cultural imperialism going on, but that "imperialism" doesn't do justice to the osmotic nature of the diffused culture. The main problem is that the U.S. dominates the pop entertainment markets and in true capitalist nature propagates the product to get more consumers worldwide. Production quality is high (content not necessarily) in the music/tv/film arenas, distribution is key, and both are barriers to entry for foreign countries, but which are quickly catching up due to reduced production costs w/ tech. Other areas of imperialism include the internet - supposedly 80% of all 1997 internet traffic flowed through California. Mega-mergers are positioning US-based companies to have similar business impact. However, I'd hasten to say that the US isn't interested in culturally taking over the world, just making money off anyone who will buy the products. Capitalism is the motive, distribution is the means. BTW, Britain's Blair is doing his best to encourage more American behaviour as far as I can tell, in my two weeks in the UK recently. And the Spice Girls and Prince Charles? I don't think everything is the US' fault... thus the problem with the term imperialism. note: didn't notice too many UK references in your email either. should have thrown in more labour party propaganda. ;) BTW, there was a great segment on the BBC about this very issue - that show where two people present arguments to the audience? Called something like "The House Believes"? Issue was whether US culture was a good thing. House voted NO. Funny stuff. Almost as funny as "Wordly Wise". senor droolcup At 10:15 AM 12/11/98 -0600, Heather Marie Propes wrote: >On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Ian MacDonald wrote: >> This was intentional as I constantly have to suffer your >> cultural imperialism. > >I don't understand what you are getting at here. Will you please expand >upon this, Ian? "Cultural Imperialism?" > >ciao, > >Heather (a yank) > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Golly gosh it's US "vs" UK tosh (slight return)
by Nick Dastoor 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

For anyone who missed the exciting recent broohahah on this subject, see the 'We are the world we are the children' thread at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/mhonarc/199810/index4.html#00302 and see how cleverly it spoiled the list for a while. Let's get back to talking about how rubbish 'The Gate' is. My idea for what 'skipping acts' means: My guess is it refers to popping out of the Strathcylde Players Theatre for a quick snog with Sebastian when yet another turgid Am Dram production begins to pall. Either that or it's some kind of playground rhyme. It is not my intention to start a playground rhyme thread, but if you would like to weave them magically into your subject lines, that's fine by me. Nicholas xxx _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: is this the british wit?
by keith m 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

ian wrote: >pppps. Americans. I have included many UK references you >may not >understand. This was intentional as I constantly have to >suffer your >cultural imperialism. And you continue to bastardize both >our verbal and >body language with your "Whatevers" and your ever >expanding waistline plot >to absorb the rest of the world. strange, this, especially from an englishman, history is so easily overlooked i suppose. oh well, time for me to unsubscribe, i haven't the pretentiousness within me to continue. keith mcl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Read this and constiipation will be a thing of the past: No shit
by Ian MacDonald 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

I am thoroughly pissed off with peoples attitudes to Belle and Sebastian when I introduce them to the unilateral beauty of B&S. The words that spring to the lips my deflowered B&S virgin friend tend to include wimpy, sad, weak , wank and poofy. Mind you the major circle in my Venn diagram of my deflowered virgins would include more followers of Mr Crowley than fanciers of non red triangled effete French movies. Anyway, being a wee man (thinkTattoo journeying to the centre of the earth ) I take these accusations aimed at B&S as a personal attack. In order to be able to play B&S to these heathens in future, I demand the introduction of steroid/creatine supplements to the B&S Mr Motivator regime. Isobel should also be force fed vegetarian white pudding until she can commuicate fluently with the deaf through the medium of osmatic viola powerchords. Wee Stuart should be made to wear platforms, tank tops and pattern his face with a spiders web tattoo. And all singers must smoke 120 capstan full strength daily for a week prior to recording. I would like to see the whole band take a lead from Norway and start playing with matches in churches as opposed to strumming their holy chords therein, replace their cats with starving PCP fuelled Fangface creatures, pump iron, actually use Arab Strab to brutalise each other anally,orally until the volume of band screams surpass the combined cacophony of 1 million screaming guitars. p.s This is my first post in a year because I I'm shy and your posts are all so great especially from the people that have been on the list for over 5 months and 3 days pps. My List Crush is TAG because he is IT. Was it Sarah that won ? I like the sound of her Fluffy Candarel although I have no idea what they maybe. DUKE: .How are Daisy, Bo, Luke or Uncle Jesse? But serously oh psychedelic educational guru what did you quote from me in your tome to the pertinence of pop in the life of us misunderstood kids? chips and gravy: I would like E-mail pen friends from all over the world to swap pant crust /charming stories with. I would particularly like to receive pictures of lavacious muslim ladies eyes. Speak to you in another year. In fact during the eclipse. pppps. Americans. I have included many UK references you may not understand. This was intentional as I constantly have to suffer your cultural imperialism. And you continue to bastardize both our verbal and body language with your "Whatevers" and your ever expanding waistline plot to absorb the rest of the world. Luv, peace, harmony and neck massages to you all. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: it's dark already!
by Archel 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

darling list, i've been fully converted to The Gate now - i think i annoyed my boyfriend by humming it tunelessly a lot yesterday. and having seen isobel's divine shorn head, lovely coat, and general gorgeousness in Melody Mangler (god, it really is a complete load of toss) i think i want to marry her. okay, i am female and furthermore have a boyfriend, but these things defy logic. the whole EP nursed me through a depressed afternoon when i'd just been made to feel supremely stupid by my horrible tutor, and as others have mentioned the horns on Slow Graffiti are just perfect. mmm. i am not a musician in any sense of the word, by the way, and i feel left out. though i did used to write songs with my best friend when we were about 11, which included immortal lines such as: 'i've tried to forget you but i never succeed/why do you remain in my memory?' genius. now i just write poetry, and i fondly imagine that my lyrical skills have slightly improved. by the way, has the brighton meet-up been finalised yet, does anyone know? as in where we're meeting? only lucid when i'm writing poetry, archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101(a)york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: This is Belle & Sebastian!
by Frank Yang 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

So I was watching This Is Spinal Tap last night, and after laughing myself senseless, it occurred to me that if someone were to make a rockumentary about Belle & Sebastian, it would be so utterly opposite, it'd almost be a satire unto itself. "So, Stuart, tell us about these amps..." "Uh, well, most amps only go to zero, but these go to minus one. That's one quieter, y'know..." I think it'd be a winner. Except none of the band would agree to appear on camera... -- Frank Yang "If celebrities didn't want people pawing through their garbage and saying they're gay, they shouldn't have tried to express themselves creatively." In my CD player: The Verve - Urban Hymns +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Mistletoe
by petula 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

At 01:16 PM 12/11/1998 -0000, Mctaggart, Robert wrote: > >Elisabeth wrote: > >>Perhaps the New Year will turn over a new leaf for the list. >>No more silly acronyms. > >P-W, HITYLTILY? > >Love Tag xx P-W, WR! love elisabeth xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Xmas Lunch
by Adrian Evans 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

The poetry parrot has just turned up on my doorstep absolutely shit-faced, sent home in disgrace from his xmas party after an appauling display of jannerism. Here's what he had to say for himself. twas the night before christmas and shit was it neat. the kids were both gone and my wife was in heat. the doors were all bolted the phone off the hook it was time for some nooky by hook or by crook mom in her teddy and I in the nude had just hit the bedroom and reached for the lube when out on the lawn there arose such a cry that I lost my boner and momma went dry up to the window I sprang like an elf tore back the shade while she played with herself the moon was so bright that it lit up the yard the place was a mess something hit it real hard when what to my wondering eyes should appear but a crooked old sleigh and eight mangy reindeer with a fat little driver half out of his sled a sock in his ear and a bra on his head sure as im speaking he was as high as a kite and he yelled to his team but it didn't sound right whoa shithead whoa asshole whoa stupid whoa putz fuckin slow down this rig or I'll cut off your nuts over the lamp post and don't hit that tree quit shaking the sleigh cause I gotta go pee they cleared the old lamp post the tree got a rub just as santa leaned out and threw up in the shrub and then from the roof came a hell of a splatter as each little reindeer now emptied his bladder I was donning my jacket to cover my ass when down through the chimney he came with a crash his suit was all soaking with perfume galore he looked like a bum and smelled like a whore that was some cathouse he said with a smile the reindeer are pooped so I'll hang for awhile he walked to the kitchen and poured up a drink then whipped out his pecker and pissed in the sink I started to laugh my wife smiled with glee the old boy was hung nearly down to his knee back in the den santa reached in his sack but his toys were all gone and some new things were packed the first thing he found was a black leather whip next were some x-rated video clips a box full of condoms was Santas next find and a six pack of panties 'the edible kind' a bra without nipples a penis extension and boxes of goodies I won't even mention a cock ring a g-string and all types of oil and a dildo so long that it lay in a coil. this stuff ain't for kids mrs.santa would shit if you don't mind I'll leave it all here when I split he filled every stocking and then took his leave with one tiny butt plug tucked under his sleeve he sprang to his sleigh but his feet were like lead and he fell on his buttocks and broke wind instead he cursed and got up and climbed into his hitch lets go ya varmits the nights been a bitch the shuddering lurch slammed him back in his chair and he let out a belch as they took to the air bending the lamp post and raking the tree he bounced off a rooftop and finally got free im comin home woman! he sang with a smirk so grab both your ankles and pull up you skirt!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Mistletoe
by Mctaggart, Robert 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

Elisabeth wrote: >Perhaps the New Year will turn over a new leaf for the list. >No more silly acronyms. P-W, HITYLTILY? Love Tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Let the ridicule commence!
by WeeJay 11 Dec '98

11 Dec '98

Right, this is my last message to the list before I temporarily unsubscribe to go home. Therefore between now and tomorrow night you have free reign to say anything about me and I'll be none the wiser. Oh, and don't mail me here, anyone who was planning to - I wont read it until January. Talking of mailings, I'm getting a good response to the story game thing (called "exquisite corpse" Rachael assures me) but you've all got plenty of time to apply yet - to james(a)twopounds.u-net.com remember! I've had a little look at the photo site listed on the main page and I'd advise evryone else to aswell - it's very informative. Stu really is a VERY tall git and, disapointingly, Sarah isn't particularly fluffy at all (*awaits slap*). What else... Hmmmn (plays with imaginary goatee)... Oh, yes, Tara posed us a dilemma: > Time to go back to work... here's a predicament: there's a new > guy who started here, and well, we didn't really get along at first. > And twice now I've accidentally discovered him looking at > <whispers> "rude" photos on the internet. Seems the poor fellow > is completely oblivious to the fact that our employer monitors all > internet usage. Should I bury the hatchet, tell him and save him > from a potentially embarrassing situation before it's too late? or > just continue in my current mode of doing nothing but thinking, > "well, DUH, doesn't he realize they'll find out???" Doesn't your employer have one of those little programmes that stops you being able to access such sites? I'm reliably told we have one here (by someone who has a stack of 'razzle' magazines in his bedroom). Anyway, what I would do is tell him, but in an amusing / humiliating way. Like perhaps in front of a female coleague he's taken a shine to. Not that I'm a man to hold a grudge, gosh no;) As for le mystery bus, well I can see how stevie, mick and richard can fit in. How about stevie could be the mysterious, sinister looking and obviously innocent butler, mick could be the owner of the 'haunted' house who's trying to attract tourists or something, and richard could be the 'old friend' of theirs who's invited them there to investigate it. Mick could dress up in a sheet and frrrighten chris and patchy-boo. I'm glad to see there's no scrappy-doo involved. I see that kelly 'raygun' was born in 197X. Me too! was anyone else born in 197X around here? Talking of X, I visited Belle lettres for the first time the other day *sigh* that is good. Well, that's all I've got to say really... next time you hear from me I'll be on the digest and only able to send/recieve mail once a day. And remember, game people, don't mail me here, WeeeeeeeeeeeJay xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx James(a)twopounds.u-net.com Go on, what are you frightened of? (and remember - stick it in sideways) http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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