September 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: b&s & d.a.f.
by Janine Papp 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

You're crazy! No way... B&S like D.A.F.? you're not going to believe this, but I happened to have that song by D.A.F. sitting right next to me as I read this so I put it on. As to why I had it handy that must remain a secret for now... queen bee janine >Talking of Spaceboy Dream, has anyone noticed the similarity between that >and the D.A.F. classic >'Kebab Traume'? It's uncanny. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: re: the acid house
by andrew dean 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

>Sinister: the acid house speaking of the acid house trilogy, which somebody was, i read on teletext this morning that the soundtrack lp is due out on 2nd november but of the 4 or 5 acts it listed as being included it didn't mention 'slow grafitti' which i find strange given that the teletext bod is a bit of a b&s nut (kudos to stephen eastwood btw for having a review of the london gig on there *before* 8am the morning after. i have it written down and will send it here (or more probably to the web site) along with the two from the guardian whan i remember) there's also a peel session pencilled in for october but, like the last twice, they will probably schedule it when i'm out of the country. 8( and yep, i WOULD love you as an eagle... andy 8) == andrew dean (koogydelbbog(a)yahoo.com) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I've just wet myself
by Funkyseb＠aol.com 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

FUCK!!!!! Dirty Dream #2 is the best song I have heard in my whole life! I'm trying to type and not scream all at the same time! Now I know what Teenyboppers feel like! I hadn't heard it before, except in London, and all I could hear then was Fred and Stuart G's 'version' of it in my left ear. This would be the best single in pop history. It has Top of the pops running through it like a stick of rock! What! a! lot! of! exclamation! marks! Impatient for my promised cd of TWATYBUS, and desperate to get B&S in the top 5 even if I have to buy every copy myself, I got the Heavy-duty hugeo-bastardo vinyl today, and god, this really is a great album. I no longer have any doubts. Except for Chickfactor which is still p!i!s!h! but even that's growing on me. Katrina wrote: <<basically, when you play the empire you HAVE to use the concessions company they employ to sell any merchandise the band have and then they take 25% of the gross profits for themselves>> Ahh.'cause when I went to the stall to return the extra flyers, and later to buy a (fairly lovely) T-shirt, the people there seemed to be complete bastards, who didn't know their arse from an Ink Polaroid, and who didn't seem very excited by the prospect of seeing God's own house band. At all. I did wonder what relation these oiks had to the very civilized regular staff :-) God, sorry about the naughty word at the beginning. I got a bit carried away. But then that's my honest reaction to the song, and I stand by it. TWATYBUS is an outstandingly good album, and if B&S split up today, I doubt we'll hear anything better ever again. It's only an opinion. But I have to admit, it's one I hold rather strongly. seb <who still finds it funny to play records at 78.Rollercoaster Ride too long? Not anymore!> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the acid house
by barzy＠networkmags.com 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

>i think there may be at least another EP before the release of "slow >graffiti" from the acid house soundtrack, but again none of this is >confirmed and it may just all be ideas in my head! Oh wow! A friend of mine here in LA just got an advance film of this and is transfering it over to America friendly viddie tape..Ewan Bremner plays the lead role (Spud in Trainspotting) and i'd also heard the Trashcan Sinatras have a song on the soundtrack..but I didn't know about "Slow Graffiti" bit! YAY! On a sad Graffiti note...my mate from Glasgow who was just over said they finally painted over the "le pastie" graffiti....:( He also said that Stuart borrowed that idea from his pal Lawrence who spray-painted it outside of a doughnut shop or something like that.. oh bla bla bla x's and o's 2 8) *sigh* beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Chicago listees
by Sandra Duric 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

Hello Chicago listees! What are the chances that someone can help me circumvent the outrageous ticketmaster surcharges by picking up a pair of tickets at your friendly local indie record shop in Chicago? I'd do it myself, but I'm 5 hours away... Please email me privately. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: That is SO true!
by Reid 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

Tim H!O!P!kins wrote: > I can't believe that no-one has noticed that the recorder solo on 'The Boy With The Arab Strap' > is a dead ringer for part of the banjo line in Flatt and Scruggs' "Salty Dog Blues", only slowed > down. > Also that the story read out on "Spaceboy Dream" is a direct lift from chapter twenty of "The > Brothers Karamazov", only with the words changed. > Talking of Spaceboy Dream, has anyone noticed the similarity between that and the D.A.F. classic > 'Kebab Traume'? It's uncanny. > I'm so glad someone finally said it! Those bastards in B&S! Plagarists! And everyone seems to be completely content with letting them get away with it. "Spaceboy Dream" is a complete rip-off of a) all spoken word songs and b) anything with a funky beat. "It Could Have Been A Brilliant Career" is just "Mrs. Robinson" with different words, melodies and music. A wicked wanky bagpipe solo? That's been done before. "A Summer Wasting"? It's just "Sweet Home Alabama" with a few twists. "Chickfactor" is pratically a remake of "Fuck Tha Police" and it's only a matter of time before Alice Cooper sues for what they did to "Schools Out" on Tigermilk. Seriously...Yes, a lot of B&S's bits sound like other songs, but this has always been one of the appealing things about the band...that they sound like re-discovering a song that you hadn't heard in years. And I can even see why people think the beginning of The Boy...does sound a bit like "Spirit In the Sky". But...If anything on the new album sounds like anything else, it sounds like (gasp!) Belle and Sebastian. The melody to the title track sounds like the melody on "Electronic Renaissance" and "...Brilliant Career" is fairly similar to "...Track and Field". But I think we can forgive B&S for sounding like themselves, hm? ~Reid, who is perfectly aware that Tim was joking. -- "I try to be nice to at least one person a day. Today isn't your day. Tomorrow isn't looking very good either." -chalkboard in the window of Pepper's Pizza +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Happy days are here again!
by Ed Kubisa 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

Well I scraped the money together to buy....... well you can guess! All I can say is that it is as expected - it's FAB!, very B&S. But have you heard the Manson LP... absolutely bonkers, I LOVE IT! I have a feeling a few of you might not though..... ;) oohh.. also bought tickets to see B&S in Munich on Oct 3rd, which will be heaven..... anyone here going? (This gig follows on from the October Beer Festival.... the largest Beer Fest. in the world... can you imagine what would happen if the London crowd were to go...!!! Messy comes to mind.. ;) Edd

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Sinister: Help!!
by Anna J 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

Hello everybody! I'm not sure if anybody remembers me (but I hope so); I used to be around this spring, before I left to spend the summer in France, and now I'm back, but it's not quite the return I was hoping for. See, for the last week, since getting back to uni, me and a friend have been trying to find out if B&S would be playing in Copenhagen aswell as Stockholm, since this would be a lot closer and cheaper for us (we're in Lund), and finally today I found out they're not coming to Copenhagen, so I rushed off to my friend's flat so that we could order tickets for Stockholm, but they were all sold out!! Now we're both completely heart-broken and we're doing out best to see if there's any way to find tickets for Stockholm at all, and this is why I'm writing now. Is there anybody who just happens to have two tickets for the concert lying around and would be happy to sell them or who knows anybody that could help us? I'd appreciate help even a tiny bit beyond possibility! Best regards from the girl who doesn't understand why she always has to do everything at the last moment... P.S. I hope you all had a nice summer :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: live taping at athens
by Andras Zalan Szolnoki 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

........but there are B&S-songs you canŽt get in the shops (or at least not here) or from the record company.......... >From owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net Fri Sep 11 07:01:26 1998 >Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA02962; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:35:10 +0100 >Received: by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (bulk_mailer v1.9); Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:35:00 +0100 >Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA02918 for sinister-outgoing; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:34:55 +0100 >Received: from mushroom.totalweb.net.uk (mushroom.totalweb.net.uk [195.206.160.4]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA02880 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:34:40 +0100 >Received: from jeepster.co.uk (p46-portman-car.tch.virgin.net [194.168.18.166]) > by mushroom.totalweb.net.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA17548; > Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:34:04 +0100 (BST) >Message-ID: <35F91733.14F7ADFF(a)jeepster.co.uk> >Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 13:27:31 +0100 >From: david kitchen <shop(a)jeepster.co.uk> >Organization: jeepster (http://www.jeepster.co.uk/) >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Tim Groves <tim.groves(a)interfocus.co.uk> >CC: lphernan(a)edisto.cofc.edu, sinister(a)majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: live taping at athens >References: <Megw.120135(a)polson.fabrik.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Reply-To: david kitchen <shop(a)jeepster.co.uk> >X-List: Sinister > > >Tim Groves wrote: >> >> as far as I know live taping is legalish in Italy - >> If ANYONE has a boot of Mondays gig at the shepherds bush empire please let me >> know. I'll pay or swap for whatever >> tim > >actually it is illegal everywhere. >jeepster hold a WORLD-WIDE exclusive copyright of all the artowrk, >recorded works, sound and the songs themselves. the enforcers of this >copyright are various companies but include: virgin france, sony (uk >publishing thingy), matador and capitol. which i assure you is far more >power tahn we know what to do with. > >as regards home-taping i'll just set the record straight before it rears >it's ugly head again. > >the label will tolerate all non-profit dubs providing we don't know >about it! that simple. we will ignore tape requests - but please don't >put us in any position we don't want to be in - keep requests for >everything else out of our view (off the list) and we won't say >anything. > >:) > >david kitchen > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records > > http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ > http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ > > mailto:shop@jeepster.co.uk > > jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn > > to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo(a)jeepster.co.uk > with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message > there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Quote: "About B&S" bit in "the List" (biggish)
by Shearer, Calumn 11 Sep '98

11 Sep '98

>From "The List" 10-24 Sep 1998 (Issue 342) with Kelly McDonald on the Cover And very nice she looks too.... b&s get a cover mention too.... (ooh, publicity!) and I'm typing this in by hand, so excuse the typos, their probably mine I'll do the Concert review later (not that they haven't been done to death, it's just refreshing to see an "outside" view - as much as there can be one with b&s - it's either "They're GREAT!" or "who?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------ Page 14 Belle and Sebastian The American music Bible _Spin_ named them as one of the twenty most important bands working today. Their last EP made the Top Forty. Their concerts sell out in hours. Yet it's only now, on the release of their third album, that they have released this photograph of themselves. Just who are BELLE AND SEBASTIAN? Words: Fiona Shepherd BASHFUL STREET KIDS Some bands will do anything to grab the media's attention. Take Stuart Murdoch of rampant self-publicists Belle and Sebastian. Only a few weeks ago he was standing outside _The List's_ Glasgow office throwing bits of paper bearing the traditional greeting "hello" through the window, as part of his efforts to make us listen to his new CD, _The Boy With The Arab Strap_, which he delivered personally on being admitted to out writers' garret. This story - true apart from the 'rampant self-publicists' bit - is only one of many delicious ironies about Glaswegian troubadours Belle and Sebastian. The singer, who is prepared to deliver all his groups albums by hand to this publication and presumably other interested local parties, hasn't conducted an interview in eons, a potentially frustrating state of affairs for the ardent breed of fan his group attracts. The rest of this affable bunch are hardly hermits, frequenting many fine West End hostelries on a regular basis, yet they won't readily pose for group photos. This tendency to play their cards close to their chest has led to accusations of preciousness from a snubbed press; but has this, or the infrequency of their live appearances, stunted their appeal? It seems not. What their wilfully unco-operative approach to promotion has done is throw all the attention onto their lilting, wistful, graceful, pastoral, huggable songs - three albums and various EPs (the most recent of which made the Top 40) which have carved an idiosyncratic niche for a group whose music may echo the past, but has no peer in the present. Stuart Murdoch's baby took a variety of forms before becoming Belle and Sebastian. He first honed his fey 60's-inspired soundtrack pop in a 'group' and one-off club night called La Pastie De La Bourgeoise. Later he recorded a demo under the equally pretentious name Lisa Helps The Blind and accompanied it with a note saying: 'You may lambast me for not being "rock" enough. But I've always preferred baby animals and cake to rock. La Pastie was such a flop that I had to write a song of the same name to redeem the evocation.' The song - an 'Alone Again Or' for the 90s, if you will, pop-pickers - finally surfaced on Belle and Sebastian's '3...6...9 Seconds Of Light' EP. Belle and Sebastian, as they now appear, started to take shape under the moniker Rhode Island, but it wasn't until they named themselves after Cecile Aubrey's children's book about the friendship between a boy and his dog - later a TV series - that the current line-up was assembled in it's entirety. I first saw, or rather heard, them perform at a party in Garnethill. They played in the bedroom, and I listened through the door because the room was full. Even in the early days, it was difficult to gain entry to their gigs. In 1996, the debut album _Tigermilk_ was released to general delight and felicity on Stow College's Electric Honey label, and a recor company bidding war would have ensued if the group hadn't already signed to their current home, Jeepster Records, from where they have waged a mischievous campaign against music industry norms. At first, interviews would only be conducted - if at all - when all members of the band (six at the time) could be present. Posed band photographs were definitely out, so their press shots consisted of various tableaux featuring friends and cuddly toys, including a Last Supper homage. This has proved a great wheeze, and one which did elusive groups like The Residents no harm. Gigs have been relatively sparing, compared to the prevailing 'gig yourself into an early grave' philosophy of some bands, and in unusual venus where possible. All of which seems just about right for a sublime, talented and perpetually in-demand group propelled by a man who prefers animals and cake to rock. And one who, for all his aversion to the fame game, fulfils the showbiz adage od always leaving 'em wanting more. _The Boy With The Arab Strap_ is out now on Jeepster Records. See page 42 for concert review. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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