September 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: I'm abusing the list
by Janine Papp 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

hey darling sinsisterines I'm sorry to abuse the list like this, but I need some help for my zine and I thought, who better to turn to? There's going to be a really funny advice column in the next issue. Surely some of you need some advice??? You can ask Belle and Sebastian related questions, in fact I encourage it. So please read on. Hello there Temple of Sting needs your letters ASAP for ASK SCHAP, the first T.O.S. advice column! You can ASK SCHAP about ANYTHING from why your car won't run to why is the sky blue, to what's this itchy spot on my leg, to why does Satan pick on me? so, please submit your questions! You can send e-mail to Temple of Sting at beesting(a)popstar.com, e-mail Schap at schap(a)mute.com, or write to TOS at Po Box 357, Murray Hill Station, New York, NY 10156. All letters will remain anonymous! For more information, visit the Temple of Sting website at http://members.tripod.com/~JanineBee Janine Papp Queen Bee of the Temple of Sting +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: nottingham
by James 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

hello I'm on the digest and as people on the digest probably know it's not been very well and we've all been getting little parcels of nothingness instead of mail for some time now. So since the nottingham gig I've had no mail at all, and thus have not been able to play my part in the post gig joyousness. I've just received all the digests I missed as one huge bulging sackful, but it's going to take me hours to wade through it all, and I want to talk NOW NOW NOW or my limbs'll fall off or something. So anyhows, my point is this, I'm going to tell you my nottingham experiences, and you've probably heard it all before, because you've been nattering for ages, but I'm going to tell you anyway. So, erm, sorry...and all that. Well, during the course of my quick flick through I've noticed that a lot of you have been complaining about the heat and such like, and I kind of noticed that (it was hard not to), but to be honest, with a performance like that it sooo didn't bother me. I would have felt positively greedy asking to be able to breathe as WELL.... But OK, I see your point, if that sort of thing gets to you. And I could hear them perfectly well (and I wasn't right at the front), so I don't really understand all this stuff about sound problems. The only problem as far as I could see was people talking too loudly, and too often and over the top of songs. But then you get that everywhere. And I cried during two of the songs. Prize to anyone who can guess which two. And oh my god, oh my god, Isobel looked so beautiful. I'm praying to god my photos come out. And her cello, and her voice were both spot on. And Stuart's voice was on top form. And Stevie sounded fantastic too. And thay just sound so much like a band now rather than loads of separate little things. And they were so smooth and so lush and so competent. Manchester seems light years away. It was magic. And we took some white wine with us called Tigermilk. And on the way home there was a full moon, and the best fog EVER, and we saw a BAT! A bloody bat. It flickered right over our car on the M42. A really big one too. Oh you're all so beautiful. Molly xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Can anyone in US burn me a Tigermilk CD?
by Funkyseb＠aol.com 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

Right, I'm big and grown up now, I think it's my turn to answer this one. Look, Jeepster and the band are very sweet in turning a blind eye to the exchange of *tape* copies of Tigermilk, as long as it's not for profit. But, as we all know, it is illegal to bootleg albums, even if they are as life affirming as that album is. And the point is, a cd-r of the LP is a bit too professional, and bit too easily reproducable for Jeepster to ignore. So, to all newbies, please don't shout about making CD-Rs on the list, if you must do it, 'cause things get uncomfortable, and David + Katrina have to stop being lovely bunnies, and get serious. Which no-body wants. It's happened too many times before. It's going to come out again sooner or later, on CD, so please be patient, and put up with your scratchy old tape dub for a bit longer, like everyone else :-) God, that was a but sensible. seb (who's nearly finished that review. just a bit of polishing left, some nfinitives to stick back together, etc.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Ink polaroid
by Suzanne Schroeder 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

There's me at work at the TV station running episodes of Charlie's Angels. The woman next to me running the programming for the Fox affiliate discovers she has a screwed up tape of Sally. She barks "fuck fuck fuck" over and over again. Sometimes I wonder if she does that not because a huge boo boo happened. I think she does it actually asking someone to......well, never mind. At that point, I was nearly drifting off to sleep, but then remembered it's only a few more hours until I get out and get my Belle and Sebastian album. There's me in my car. I had just bought the Belle and Sebastian album and am listening to it in the CD player. I have plenty of time since I'm battling the evil rush hour traffic. I realize later on that afternoon that my CD player is in "random" mode and not playing things in album order. It is during a later playing that I notice the band does their usual or signature intro (depending on what word you want to use, and how big and important you think they are) of starting with acapella singing then quickly building. Nevertheless, this is the present and I immediately like "Is it Wicked Not to care." I can't say why. Let's just leave it at that. I'm sick of trying to put in my own words why I like anything because it comes out with some critical bull crap......I know I'll change my mind later on this stance, so I don't know why I'm writing it here. My favorite is the title song, but I realized something eerie....a few months ago, I had almost written a song with the same melodic line. I kept thinking "this sounds familiar, where have I heard this before?" It happened that it was one of those songs where I envisioned a different melody line than the one that came out. I don't know what to make of Seymore Stein. This one worries me. Is this the point in their song that they turn into Morrissey by adopting the philosophy "I'm not going to talk to someone and deal with them on a human level, I'm just going to publish a song about them on albums for the world to see." ? I remember reading once during the height of Moz's war with the media back around 92 that he would only deal with the media "through his songs" and now fans have to listen to great songs like Speedway ruined by the self pity of a rock star. I know most big stars have that special song or album dedicated to how they were shat apon by the record industry, but for the most part, fandom doesn't want to hear it. It's much easier for people to get excited about "Get me away from here I'm dying" where everyone has dreams about escaping. Maybe it's why most bands last only a few years losing their relavancy to the masses. Maybe it's why poetry in general has lost any chance of mass appeal and is only left for dank coffee houses. It's just words for a few people. I happen to catch the tail end of a local slam and noticed that there are more poems about what it's like to be on stage or how they stretch words beyond the realms of meaning than there is actually any poems on anything useful. They forget who their audience should be and only work to please the same people they see everyday. Afterall, at this point, good criticism from their peers means something because their peers "are poets" and can hook them up with better events and book deals while everyone else is a Zombie who just doesn't get it. Thumbs up anyway....it proves that they are able to overcome many people's expectation of stagnation. s.s. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Here's to hoping
by Julie_Smith＠iacnet.com 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

Hi all, I was wondering if there was anyone on the list who might know how I could get a taped copy of Tigermilk (to hold me over.) If someone could tape it for me (!!) I'd definitely get you back in terms of postage and all that jazz. I live in the San Francisco bay area, so logistically the closer to me the better. Or perhaps somebody could tell me where I might find one . . . I feel a bit strange addressing so many people at once so forgive me for rambling, but basically, I'm interested in Tigermilk info. Thanks everybody, Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Business Proposal
by Rod Begbie 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

(please ignore the headers -- It's just so that people noseying at my Outbox don't get suspicious) Some more stuff rattling around my brain: 1. No offence to the officials on this list, but I thought that the T-shirts on sale were kind of dull. When I saw someone in a IYFS shirt before hand, I assumed it was a bootleg. The bus and dancing shirts were funky, original and imaginative. But just putting the record sleeve on a shirt isn't. (Although I did pay £3 for a bootleg shirt outside the gig, because I thought that they were just the funniest things ever. A massive number 7 on the back, for no apparent reason. Any suggestions as to what it stood for?) 2. Doing a DejaNews search for "Belle and Sebastian" gets you a few adverts for live bootlegs. "People" may be interested. 3. I only realised last week that "I Don't Love Anyone" doesn't promote the use of concealment tactics. "If there's one thing that I learned when I was still a child, it was too take up hiding." Not funny, but it is true. 4. Gig review in Grauniad today. 5. Two nuns driving along, when Dracula jumps onto their windscreen. "Quick, show him your cross", says Nun One. So Nun Two goes "Fuck off Dracula - I'm not in the mood." 6. Someone I know is a stand-up comedian, who has been trying quite hard to "get it on" with a young lady friend. So I forwarded him that wee bit out of DirtyDream#2. He didn't find it funny. 7. So who's going to be the first to post their 10 biggest wanks? Rod. -- Rod Begbie Work: rbegbi(a)sapient.com Play: rod(a)begbie.com There's no such thing as "young". They just treat us wrong. I had a friend who died. I had another friend who stayed alive. -- Urusei Yatsura, "Amber" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: cover star
by Gillian McKay 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

did anyone else notice the very last line on the back cover of the new album.... "The title of this record in no way refers to the cover star, by the way" made me laugh!! Anyone know who the guy on the cover is? Every time i look at it, it reminds me of L**m G***acher from that shitty "britpop" group. Who were they again? thats all folks gillian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Ease your feet
by Michael 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

>2) Seeing that Sean Hughes still likes every band >I've ever liked..or is that the other way round ? >And me just hours earlier having bought his debut >novel...freaky. Claim to fame - I stood on his toes whilst he was waiting at the bar on Monday. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Liverpool Girls Beat All the Rest
by MWaggner＠aol.com 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

In a message dated 98-09-10 09:04:42 EDT, you write: > > usual, I've been trying really hard to mishear things on TWATTYBUS, but the > best I've come up with is "Has he ever seen Gandhi?" from Seymour Stein. Before I got the booklet with the lyrics, I thought the EXACT same thing!! Thank you!! Then, I read the lyrics, which are different, and sat trying to figure out what I heard -- and suddenly a lightbulb went on in my head and I thought "Dundee!!" Quite an accomplishment, as I am fairly geographically challenged. People have been wondering about the Supper Club. It's a nice venue in many ways, and certainly not so big as the synagogue they played in last year in NY, I don't think. Maybe the same capacity overall, no? The Supper Club is really not so "showynice" as the photos on its website, unless they've done it over in the last few months -- but I thought when it was first mentioned that it was a good choice. It does have stars on the ceiling. People crowd in around the railing. The main room is on a couple of levels: the floor area where everyone crowds in to hear the band, then a step or two up to the bar area in the back and little curtained cubicles with tables along each side where the "important" people can sit. I'm always surprised that there are SO MANY important people -- and yet I am never on the list. It's all overlooked by a balcony area, with tables. I guess that's where you can get supper, but I've never seen anyone eating there. You've had to be important to get up there as well, at least at the shows I've attended. Except for the candy you can buy in the restrooms -- which are the nicest of any venue I've been at, with one of those women who hands you a towel, in the ladies' room at least. So bring some money to tip her if you have to use the loo. It looks like lots of people from all over will be at the NY picnic on Sept. 20th -- it will be great to put faces to names. --michele/simone +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Duuuuuh!
by Sarah Wheeler 10 Sep '98

10 Sep '98

Sister Disco wrote: >As usual, I've been trying really hard to mishear things on TWATTYBUS, but the >best I've come up with is "Has he ever seen Gandhi?" from Seymour Stein. At very first listen I thought there was a line in 'It could've been a brilliant career' that went "Eating pies in a school that was too well-known"....not as good as the seagull/eagle ingenuity, but...... Oh and should I be honoured that Stuart M sang 'Century of Fakers' just for me....yes I did fill my fat face with every kind of cake...at a retirement do on Saturday.....and promptly threw them all back up again!!! I think I'm turning lardy. Funny how this seems to be all about food Going now to step on the scales Byeee Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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