December 1999 - Sinister

Sinister: The Morning After....
by ELZober＠aol.com 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

it seems only fitting that the last post, should this one get through and indeed be one of the last, be a thank you to Honey Honey, your late night efforts, your warm words and stern warnings have kept us all in Sinisterland, through the good and the bad, the sick and the well... this has been something like a marriage and a family.... at the very least it was certainly dysfunctional.... :) he he he i hope everyone is warm in their button down cardies.... snuggled up in their beds listening to B&S and reading some Alan Silitoe.... as for me, bel and i have started breeding squirells and will be selling them for cheap on a WWW near you..... good night sinsiter.... hoping that your every wish.... every dream.... every everything.... comes true when you wake up.... elle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Full of memories of my punk years, skip if you've never dived off stafe
by jarkko frantila 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

SPREADING LOVE AND LISTS First: €smack€ That was a kiss for dear ol' (?) Honey for fighting for our well-being. It was only platonic, so don't you smutty people think of anything else in your dirty minds. Honey, fight for our right to be smart-asses. This list has been a big thing for me for over one and a half years now, and I'd like to thank you for that. We ALL would like to thank you for that, I'm sure. Ahh, snow at last. But's it's zero degrees in here now, so it'll be slush by the end of this day. But I don't care, I'm all smiles here. Why? Well let me make up a list for you: -Two weeks and I'm in Brighton. New years eve booze frenzy, here I come. And I'm about to meet (if it all goes like I planned) Sinister people from Philly there who'll be celebrating miluerqweypafreuwguniium there. Archel wrote Liza Mille-nium and I almost choked on my coffee. Archel IS sweet, you now? =) Wehei! -My mum and dad are off to Puerto Rico on xmas eve, but I found a place to eat too much that day: My sister and her boyfriend. -I get to see my sisters kid Jasu open up the presents. The most adorable kid in the world, with the most adorable smile on his face, with the most adorable hairdo ever. -Santa Claus is going to visit my sisters, so I get to see the big beardy guy again. Last year my dad dressed up as Santa... and believe me, he looked SILLY. And he stank of fags too. But Jasu is too young to notice those things. I actully found something rotten in Denmark when I was about 7 years old and Santa sounded and looked exactly like my uncles best friend... It puzzeled me then quite a bit... -Got my paycheck on wednesday. Booze up today. Going to see The Pansies this evening for the 11th (I jsut counted) time in my life. Finnish band, sucks live but meeting a whole bunch of friends there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MEMORIES OF A PUNK ROCKER I just visited the Alternative Tentacles homepage yesterday. For those of you who don't know, AT is a legendary recordcompany founded by Dead Kennedys frontman Jello Biafra. Oh man, that visit brought back some memories from my aggro rollerblading years, when I hang out all day with my skatebording friends. NomeansNo, Dead Kennedys... Punk is not dead, it seems, it's just lurking in the back in my head, bringing sweet memories and tears to my eyes from the days when girls where something you didn't have the chance to touch because you were too shy and love meant hanging out with your friends instead of the love I feel these days, complicated and always getting me into trouble. Got a sudden urge to listen to Dead Kennedys' "Frankenchrist"- tape, but I don't have it anymore. Darn. But "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" IS and WILL BE a great song. And "Too Drunk To Fuck". And... I could go on and on. Oh, memories: getting "Virus 100", Alternative Tentacles compilation for the first time and hearing Faith No More cover "Let's Lynch the Landlord." And, oddly enough, Napalm Death cover "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" on that same compilation. OASIS NEW SONG Bloody great. "Fucking In the Bushes" is the first song from their new album, and we in Finland were the first people in the world to hear it play on our radio. VERY Stone Roses-like... No singing, just this sample... Hard to explain. Hear it for yourselves if you can. Really different compared to the old stuff, I must say. FAREWELL TO ARMS I'm off now for a fag and my fourth cup of coffee this morning. For those about to twee, we salute you. @--->--- A rose, love and other stuff that makes you feel funny in your tummy, Jake. ps: Love is like a trip on a bus: sometimes you fall asleep and drive past the place where you should've gotten off. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: still here
by honey＠missprint.org 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

The list's still functioning but I think (it's not clear, and they didn't see the need to tell anyone) the provider Esosoft has taken away any means of subscribing/unsubscribing for you all, and presumably you can't set nomail etc. If you try, you'll get a mail suggesting you do this through the Topica site - it doesn't work, so don't even try. I also don't think I can do any admin so sorry if you can't post because you have a list problem, or need unsubscribing - I just can't do it. All this was done without my consent, to a service I pay for, and I'm getting no response from Esosoft I'm afraid so far. What this means is, because of Esosoft's exquisite timing, if you forget to unsubscribe before you leave for Christmas there's NOTHING I can do I'm afraid. All I get back is the stock message that the list's been transferred. I'm looking for a new mailing list provider like mad, be assured - click on the top link of the Sinister site for up to date info. In the meantime, keep posting as long as it works, and if you wish to complain, please send something to service(a)esosoft.com, support(a)esosoft.com, and copy to myself at this address, and PLEASE mention that you're writing for the "sinister(a)majordomo.net" list. But please do read the information on the WWW site first to make sure you know the score. And sorry I'm not up to personal replies at the moment, but all will be well soon, I promise. Night, Honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i'm higher than the sun....
by rachel tucker 17 Dec '99

17 Dec '99

.....because primal scream are playing oxford zodiac a month today and i have the tickets clutched in my hot sweaty hand!!! (not all the tickets mind, i mean the zodiac's a small venue and that, but i restrained and only bought two) i'm so excited!! the primals are my absolutely fave band along with b&s (obviously...) and the charlatans. i've only seen them once before when they first toured 'vanishing point' and they were wicked then, despite still having problems with the new stuff. oooohh, i'm going to be so close to them! the wonder that is bobby g singing in the same cramped perspiring room as me....! oh my god...d'you thing my jousting on dogs on wheels with the bobster dream was a premonition? the gig was only announced yesterday....freaky. now i really DO have to have a b&s dream with members of the band in. i'm not bothered which ones, though preferably stuart m.... m is for mmmmm.....btw, this may quite possibly a really dumbass question (doncha just love the word 'dumbass'? it rolls of the tounge spectacularly methinks), but where does stuart mmmmm get the name struan from? this has puzzled me since first time i was on the list, nearly a year ago. and that's a long time to be puzzled. someone *please* explain! oops, it is now tomorrow. well, today for those of you reading this, but it was yesterday when i started it....oh, i know what i mean! i m u s t s l e e p . . . .but i have a timed essay to write for first lesson which is now in 9 hours time. bollocks. but in 13 hours time it is officially the start of the xmas holidays! my sociology teacher is baking us a cake, yay! we spent our double sociology lesson making xmas displays today. i made snowflakes, they weren't as good as honey's, but they were pretty damn fine i can tell you. i think i may be rambling. bed or english essay? hmmm. i don't know if i can write anything that makes sense anymore, especially not on plays set in 19th century ireland... bed it is. sweet dreams lots of love rachel xxx ps. if you get cold in the night try getting in a sleeping bag (preferably a heavy duty arctic one) and then pull your duvet over you. lovely toasty warm!! night night. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: [MLA] Re: Majordomo Upgrade in Progress
by Honey 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

Esosoft, Topica, list administrators, list users -- I think I can honestly say that I've never in my whole life felt so betrayed by a provider of Internet services as I do today by Esosoft having read and re-read with astonishment their mail cheekily entitled "Your Esosoft Mailing Lists now Free!". I expect this mail may well be blocked by Esosoft at least to their own MLA list, but I'm sending it anyway, and I'll send it on to whoever else I feel might have an interest in this, including subscribers to the MLA list, and other internet communities and providers. I'm sending it to my own 1000 subscribers now too, with a covering note to explain what it's about. As a UK subscriber, I received this email message at 5am this morning; by 9pm local time, my list has been "moved", all my local software has become non-functional which relies on Majordomo software responses, and all my WWW subscribe/unsubscribe and list help documentation has been rendered useless. My list subscribers get a confusing Topica mail message which contradicts everything on the WWW sites and the whole list is in complete confusion. This is *completely unacceptable* and I demand a return of my mailing list to the state it was in yesterday, and the state in which I paid for it IMMEDIATELY, pending the further comments below. I've spent literally months of effort tailoring my WWW pages, my instructions to users, automating message handling, automating approval mechanisms, automating the nopost system to my own advantage, writing autoreply messages to users with incorrect email addresses, HTML senders etc etc., all centred around the Majordomo system, and many of which are based on Esosoft's own enhancements. I can see now what a tragic mistake that was, based on a belief in service provision that's been shown to be woefully naive. I expect a provider of services to guarantee those services for a "reasonable" period of time, encourage the goodwill of their own community of paying users, and build up a trust relationship with their own customers. Esosoft seem unconcerned with, aside from the contractual nature of their obligations to us their loyal users, the years of work WE have all put in to make our own lists work with their systems can be thrown aside, without any thought whatsoever to the repercussions to us, and to our own users. Who's going to rewrite all our WWW pages by sometime "in the next few weeks"? Who's going to rehash all the automated handling of subscription mechanisms? Who's going to tell all our users, and handle the hundreds of problems we all get in due course when they send in majordomo commands, use the wrong addresses for the list, the owners, and our own personal esosoft email addresses that are distributed in thousands of users personal addressbooks worldwide? Who's going to tell us how to "approve" messages sent to a closed list from a slightly different email address on Topica? Who's going to go into every one of our users mailboxes distributed all over the world and erase the subscription details that they've all saved over the years of list membership and will inevitably use for years to come? I think the mail they sent out is the final, laughable insult. To make out the dropping of what clearly they now see as an unprofitable business as an "advantage" to us is the final slap in the face. I mean, who do they think we are? Do they think we chose a charged-for Majordomo provider because we were *stupid*? Because we didn't *know* you could get free email lists out there, from a 101 other places? Do they think this oh-so-weak PR exercise will fool *anyone*? "Esosoft has partnered with Topica" looks from my reading to be "we've decided we aren't making enough money from you, so we're throwing you all out in the cold with a week or so's notice, and what's more we're passing or selling on your mailing lists to Topica, which we'll make out as a positive advantage to you, our customers". I bet Topica jumped at it. Oh and: who gives Esosoft the right to pass on all my treasured subscribers addresses to a "free" provider who in fact make their money FROM my users with advertising revenue? Here's what I expect from Esosoft with immediate effect: 1. A halt to this ridiculously short timescale of transition that's been sprung on us all so cruelly over the Christmas period. An "opt IN" option for Topica and a whole rethink on how to handle those of use who still want a more sophisticated Majordomo based system. 2. A cast-iron *timed* guarantee as to when the esosoft mailing list addresses will cease to work. For those who "opt out" of the Topica plan, a timescale of 6 months to allow us to transition to a reputable Majordomo supplier. 3. Another "partnership", but this time with someone of equivalent service to the service we got from them before they dumped us, so we can choose. A Majordomo mailing list supplier of roughly equivalent cost and features. 4. A refund of paid-for months on the part of all list-admins who entrusted them with good money. A transition to a "free" service is not a continuation of Esosoft service, obviously. 5. A guarantee as to how long our OWN email addresses, user(a)majordomo.net or whatever will work for, of at least a year. There's no mention whatsoever of this so far. 6. A large and comprehensive WWW site for our users, available for a year, which will point out the changes in great detail and identify ever minute detail they may face. This should be drawn up for both lists moved to Topica and lists moved to the new supplier in 3. I don't mean the Topica "help" section, I mean specific instructions minutely tailored to Esosoft list users. If they don't do it, we each have to. If not, a compensation plan for the hours of work WE'RE all going to have to put in to make these changes for our tens of thousands of users. Finally thanks to Allen for offering to set up a source for all of us on MLA to continue to exchange information about where on earth we can go for Majordomo services in the light of this staggering course of events. I expect pretty soon the MLA list will be shut down if it hasn't happened already, and I suggest anyone with the slightest interest in coping with this enforced crisis to get in touch with Allen. We desperately need to put our heads together to find a new provider *quickly*, and I know my search lasted weeks last time - if we act together I suspect we'll carry some weight. I await Esosoft's immediate response to points 1-6 above please. Paul -- "At Esosoft, customer satisfaction is our Top Priority! Exceeding the expectations of our customers is what makes us the best." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: don't bother reading this
by honey＠missprint.org 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

I hate "test" messages to mailing lists and I apologise if this one gets through - please don't anyone else send them. The suggestion is that Esosoft have arbitrarily closed the list 4 hours after telling me and I'll need to send one or two tests through to check now and again. I'm steaming mad and intend to extract blood for this. honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: PLEASE READ
by honey＠missprint.org 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

Friends, Real crisis I'm afraid. Esosoft ("majordomo.net"), the people who provide the service to make this list work have done the dirty on us and are pulling the plug in the next week or so, although they won't say when exactly, and offering to move it to a "free" service provider which won't work for us. They've just sent the most insulting email imaginable informing me of their new "partnership" with topica.com, meaning they don't make enough money from selling mailing lists any more and they're giving or selling all your addresses, without your permission to one of these "free" mailing lists providers, which in fact make money from adverts to YOU. The outcome of this "new opportunity" for us all to move to Topica would be far-reaching and I suspect finish us off pretty quickly. Topica is like Onelist, Listbot, and the many other free mailing list providers - they work fine for small or inactive lists, but with over a 1000 subscribers this list comes close to being unmanageable very often even now, and the reams of software I've written to work with Majordomo (the list software) and Esosoft's specific enhancements just tip the scale in the positive direction and allow it to all keep working. Without this there's not a hope I could handle the error-trapping, helping people out with different email address versions who can't post, stopping the tide of junk mail, HTML mail, virus warnings, and all the mailing list handling details on the WWW site. It just, honestly, would be too much to do, with an active vibrant community such as you. It will in any case also mean an end to the nursery (people in the nursery don't yell "yeah!" all at once - you'll see the point when you're a list member and we don't have one!) I'm completely livid at this, and am going to forward a mail to you all I'm sending to Esosoft's own mailing list for list admins, which I fully expect them to block, I'm sad to say. I'm also copying it to some other interested parties, but I expect it's not going to change minds at Esosoft. I'm really sorry to bore you all with this and I promise I won't keep on passing on correspondence: I know lots of you are just here with a passing interest, and as has been said on many occasions "it's not the fucking United Nations supply line". I know, I know, but enough people have told me this list has been important to their own lives for me to want to find a way through this mess so unceremoniously dumped on us, and with such exquisite timing. Finally a few things for now: 1. Please don't send mail to my Esosoft address any more, as I suspect the carpet will be pulled from under my feet. My new email address is "honey(a)missprint.org", PLEASE update all your address books now. 2. Thanks so much for those who want to offer support over this. My email box is a major source of stress to me these days and I'm only just keeping my head above water. Please this time, for sure, understand that messages of support won't get a reply. I'm really sorry for this, and shed a tear everytime I don't reply to someone who took the time to help, and it really does help, but I'm sinking fast here. 3. IF however you KNOW of a good Majordomo (ONLY) mailing list provider who doesn't cost much and has a good reputation please mail me immediately with as many details as you can. It HAS to be Majordomo, so please check first, and offers of the use of someone's work machine, while kind, just wouldn't provide a reliable environment I'm afraid. But anyone who knows of someone good commercially, I'll kiss you all over it if works out. 4. If Esosoft or Topica have the GALL to mail you all telling you of the wonderful new opportunities the transition will bring you, please discount such an email for now. 5. Do any of you feel like writing to them? Hmm. I'll send on my mail which I'm sending to Esosoft in a little while, delete on sight seen if you don't want to read. It's another rant I'm afraid and you don't have to read it - I just want to let them know you all know. Honey (honey(a)missprint.org) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: re: b&s dreams, NYC meetup
by COURTOLY＠aol.com 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

I don't usually look at photos of the band. Sure I've seen one or two, but I don't "picture" the band when I listen to them. So in my dream I was on the bus and there was a question of if we should open the window or not. And I met a gentleman but the name of Stuart M, and I realized "oh, that's the belle and sebby guy", but he looked so old! In my dream he was wearing an orange t-shirt under a coat (brown? olive?) and had greying hair. He wasn't grandparently old, but just a bit younger than my parents (late 30s). Hmmm, as it would probably be in real life I had nothing to say to him on the bus. But it was an appropriate place to see him I suppose. I've been compiling a list of those who e-mailed me about meeting up in NYC for ice skating next week. Tonight I will e-mail the whole bunch so we can vote on a time. Is anyone opposed to me inviting the indiepoplist as well? Love Courtney +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Selfridges. Do they?
by Mark Casarotto 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

Brandt said: "Christ, I just heard an NPR overwriting for Mannheim Steamroller" What the hell does that mean?????? Please tell me it makes sense, I just got upset when I read it, it says nothing to me, it makes me feel stupid. Please explain! Uuurgh (shakes his head in a vain attempt to make it work again). So. How's everyone's day? Mine's not great. There's a party tonight - work related, but lots of ace people - that I've been looking forward to for ages, and I just feel too - too don't know, knackered and (saturated) fat and unwell, I suppose. Last night's sinister chips and lard-fest at Trousers' 21st was just the final straw. And, of course, I want to be sparkling and magnetic tomorrow night at the Po Caff's near-legendary Have I got Trews for You evening. Owen said: "I never said that I fucked her". He's a charmer, that one, eh? I'm not surprised he gets all the booty :-) Ailsa wrote: Well, isn't it enough she wrote? Modest and funny as ever, a big hand (shit, do I have to send a big hand to Miss Honey? I've only got wee hands, and we all know what that means, don't we girls :-() for Ailsa, ladies and gentlemen! Though I should add that when she first told me all those months ago, before we met, that she used to like Ned's Atomic Dustbin, I mentally pictured her with bright orange dreadlocks and floppy shorts. I hope none of you suffer the same image :-) I saw Kate Rusby, so ner all you not-yet-converts. I also bought her first album, but was too embarrassed to listen to it at work as they think my taste is unusual enough without having to bring widdlyfiddly tralalalee stuff into the workplace. She was a bit good, though, especially the song that was, somewhat paradoxically, about Cobblers. /me strokes his chin thoughtfully I thought I was being visited by the Poetry Boson (that's bosoN, smutsters), but it was actually the Haiku Hadron all lost and damp on my doorstep, and therefore of no interest. /me gets his coat Mark xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com www.bobthebuilder.org ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I hate outlook express...
by Jason Andreas 16 Dec '99

16 Dec '99

Hi everyone. These are the final details for the book that my story appears in. I remember a few people asking.... Sorry for the list abuse..... ----------- To: The Writers The above mentioned book has gone to press. By this time in about 3 weeks, you all will be published fiction authors. Naturally, as per the contract, each of you will receive one copy of the book. Pocol Press believes it's a fine collection. There's a little something for everyone inside- fantasy, murder mystery, detective, ghost story, science fiction, romance, revenge, war story, humor, etc. Additional copies of "Unusual Circumstances" will be available for $13.95 each. Two dollars will be added for shipping and handling per book. Four dollars for Priority Mail. Foreign orders extra. ----------- --Jason "And in the rapture and the charm Came the tranquil and the calm" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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