February 1999 - Sinister

Sinister: B&S in Basingstoke library!
by Kevan Cooke 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

The Tagliest of Tags spoke thus: > I'm in London, and tonight I'm going to meet the > Fluffy one cos she's in London too. Ooh, I think I might go too, but I don't know if I can be bothered because I'm on holiday this week, and it's a lazing around at home doing nothing type of holiday. I was lucky enough to enjoy the company of the most crushable fluffy star yesterday though, and we investigated the drinking holes of Guildford. The Mambo Bar sounded promising, and had bright colourful swirly lights and tropical trees inside, but the music turned out to be Celine Dion instead of cheesy loungecore. Bah! And while I was out I got an email from the Helen Shapiro fanclub! In fact I got about twenty emails from them! All to help with the John Schroeder website that I am inexpertly working on. What lovely people, I'm so glad that no-one else has heard of John Schroeder, apart from me and the Helen Shapiro fanclub. He wrote "Walkin' back to Happiness" you know. What perfect pop song that is. I just went to the library and there was a big display in there with all the Brits nominee's names and little accompanying biographies. I guess once you get your name pinned to the wall everywhere from the Basingstoke library to a New York launderette you do qualify as being a pretty well known band. I don't think that Megan was being precious though, in fact I agree with what she said, I do want B&S to be hugely successful and for as many people as possible to get a chance to enjoy their music, but there's still a little part of me somewhere inside that feels kind of... I guess a suitably twee analogy would be releasing a fox cub you'd rescued back into the wild. You know it's got to happen, and it's the right thing to do and everything, but part of you still wants to keep it just for you, and cuddle it, and kiss it, and I'd better stop there hadn't I? Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Story Generator
by Sleeka Sounds 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

Dear squirrels, hello it's me, Chris. For those of you who weren't aware, I used to write stories about Belle and Sebastian. These have recently ground to halt basically due to lack of time and motivation. Literary Expert Anne Ward suggested I write a computer program to generate them, so I set about it. Here is the output from my intelligent MISSY computer, like the one in War Games. Login: CLEONARD Password: *************** Welcome to the Corporation Network, Mr. Chris. What shall we do today? >MISSY GENERATE STORY Certainly, Mr. Chris. Who will be the main character in the story? >MISSY STRUAN MURDOCH As always, Mr. Chris. Shall this be a happy or a sad story? >MISSY HAPPY Would you like any adult content in this story? >MISSY NO That's all I need to know, Mr. Chris. Press enter to continue... <MISSY GENERATE STORY> <CHARACTER = "STRUAN MURDOCH" TYPE = "HAPPY" SWEARY = "NO"> <GENERATE LOCATION . . . . . GROVESNER CAFE> <GENERATE TIME . . . . . . . VALENTINES DAY> <CALCULATING . . . .> Here is your story, Mr. Chris. STRUAN'S BEST DAY ================= Struan Murdoch sat by himself in the Grovesnor Cafe, looking at his all day breakfast. He wasn't looking at his breakfast because it was lovely (even though it was), he was looking at it because he didn't want to raise his head. You see, the rest of the Cafe was full of couples in love - it was Valentines day. And Struan didn't have a Valentine, only a sausage and two eggs left. "Oh, it's not fair!", he said to himself "when will someone fall in wove with me!". "But everyone loves you Struan", said a little voice from below. Struan looked at his plate - his two eggs and sausage had taken on the shape of an all day breakfast face. It was talking to him! "Can't you see Struan, everyone loves you because you're great!". "Weally, all day bweakfast face? Then why wont anyone sit down beside me? Why Why Why?". "Look again, Struan". Struan looked beside him to see a very pretty girl who handed him a daffodil. "Will you be my valentine, Struan?" "No", he said. The girl ran away crying. Another girl, even prettier sat down beside him and gave him a love heart balloon. "Struan, will you be my valentine?". "No" he said. She ran away crying too. Yet another girl came and sat down beside him. This girl was rather plain, with lank hair and spots, and she smelled bad. "Will you be my valentine, Struan?". "Yes I will! Let's go for a walk in the park!", shouted Struan. He was delighted. Just as they were leaving the all day breakfast face grabbed Struan with his fork hand - "I have to know", he said, "why did you knock back those two beauties for this boiler?". "Simple", said Struan, she's the chef here, and I like all day breakfast more than I like girls! They both had a laugh, then Struan scoffed the rest of his meal before leaving. END >Logout Hmm, needs a bit of work but getting there, God bless you and keep you, Christopher ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: pantos, lacrosse, red ties
by Arantxa Sanz 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

Dear list : I have spent these last six monts trying to find some connection between B&S songs and my daily events, and when working hard, I nearly managed to do it every day, so I could post some message to the list assuring a high B&S content, at least to fulfil most listees expectations and not to become one of the dearest-diary line addicts... But the lesson such a practise has taught me is the possibility to relate any event in my life to some topic apparently totally disconnected if I try,and I have discovered some...mmmm, intellectual pleasure in such a mental exercise. Lately I have been playing to find some Malory Towers content in everything and it is incredingbly succesful... Let's me explain : Malory Towers was one of my obsessions when being aged 9 / 12.And one of the motivations to work at my English lessons at school, I am afraid.I wanted to become one of them, and Nottingham University is the closest I have been to my dream . There is even a Lacrosse team! So, in the last few days, (not Enid Blyton readers, don't read the following lines!)I have found someone pretending to be ill to death to avoid exams, as evil Gwendoline always tried; a pretty girl too careful about her appearance discovering how rewarding sport teams are, in spite of broken nails, undone hair and sweating clothes,and long conversations about how interesting teachers can inspire and convert their pupils ( have you read 'Last year in St Claire' with the English teacher and the girl called Anne Marie ? Really unavoidable stuff about influencing teenagers...) Anyhow, there is some connection with B&S, everything is connected, that's my prophecy! What about Isobel with her pleated grey skirt,white blouse and red tie arriving at Malory and becoming that year's fairy in the Christmas panto? I want a film about it! Let's do it! And Stuart could do a shy girl with problems at home and missing her pets and manage to hide and breed a squirrel at the Lacrosse courts dressing rooms, skipping the rules.We already have 'We rule the school' as perfect soundtrack Pleading forgiveness for such a pack of nonsenses. I am in a funny mood because my glasses will be ready today! L-O-V-E Arantxita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: 10, Roddington Place
by mctag＠bigfoot.com 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

Hello Losers, Make your bloody minds up - one minute you're wittering on about your knickers, and the next you go all awkward and shy, kicking your heels and looking at the floor. I'm in London, and tonight I'm going to meet the Fluffy one cos she's in London too. I want Tim to come along, does anyone know his number? Anyway we're going to talk about us whippets and eccles cakes and drink ale wi'bits in it, and scare the big Southern Jessies, and then we're going up the East End to kick the crap out of Millwall fans. I'm not really, I'm just a fake Northerner, just like I'm a fake Scotsman. In fact, I went to public school with Nick Drake. Well, he went to public school and I went to the comprehensive up the road. About 15 years later. But it's the thought that counts. If in doubt, talk about Rodd. His return was quite enigmatic and low-key, I thought. I hope he's OK. I've been worried ever since the Roddcam watchers reported him looking sad. Makes me want to pop him on me knee and say "Rodders, what ails you child? What tales have you to tell since I saw you rosy of cheek and seductive of wiggle at Heathrow Airport last year?" Still, Mr Mrs Warrender John says he wants to get a Roddd tattoo because Mrs Warrander John already has a "Millwall - Kick to Kill" tattoo, and he doesn't want to feel left out. For newbies, the subject line is a nod to the golden age of Sinister before all you crap Johnny-come-latelies turned up, when "Espadrille" and "Debbie" thrilled us all several times a day with their one word replies. Happy, happy times. Love Tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: laudry room etiquitte and jewish boys that my 'rents want me to marry
by The Trainspotter 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

Paul Rudd is a doll and oh so sweet. I've played with him on the phone. you probably do know him but don't remember, he was the brother of cher in clueless and the gay boy in object of my affection with jennifer aniston. He tried to convince me that I should go see every movie with tony randall , erm, I mean tony curtis. - I think. it's really late. and to have some belle and seb more content - it's interesting to see what people compare other artists to, for instance, on Momus' little red song book, there is a little sticker, saying if you like this artist, try: and they have belle and sebastian on there, as well, hefner have been compared to belle and sebastian mixed with pavement (I decree they're more like neutral milk hotel's half-sibling but I digress). and oh, I got into a fight on the uk-indie list about belle and sebastian. ooh, kitty fell. ciao! -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp -----Original Message----- From: **Megan Lehar** <mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu> To: sinister(a)majordomo.net <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Date: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 2:28 AM Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian in the laundry room > >so on sunday i was doing my laundry, after a fairly prolonged absence due >to business and a lack of desire to hang out in the laundry room. which i >ended up doing. so while i was leaning against the washer, waiting another >washer which i could pounce on, i looked around. the decaying condom >machine (now honestly, who wants to get their birth control from a machine >that looks like it was put up around the '50s and has survived numerous >floods, but only just barely) to the bulletin board, sponsored by interview >magazine. next to a sexy photo of an actor named paul rudd, who i don't >think i know, but may as he was looking so sexy he managed to cover his >face, there was a quote wherein he said something along the lines of, "you >can be masculine if you watch john wayne movies or masculine if you listen >to belle and sebastian. and i do both." aside from the lack of proper >grammar or anything, i was surprised. i mean, the magazien chose to quote >this line, assuming college students would recognize b&s almost as easily >as john wayne. then i was in a bookstore today, looking at a copy of the >acid house. as i was reading the back, where they had the credits and >whatnot, some of the bands from the album were named. belle and sebastian >were named fourth, before primal scream. at first i was glad, but is it >wrong to feel a little sad? i loved having something beautiful for myself, >something that i could share with a few people and wonder about. the band >certainly haven't been corrupted or anything, but there's something >wonderful about stuart murdoch coming to mailing list picnics, and having a >group of people who know a band and can share it's name amongst themselves >like a secret handshake. i don't mean to offend the new people, you all >are probably quite easily as lovely as any other listees i've met. but >something about the first few is the sort of thing that probably won't >happen again. do i make sense? maybe it's all the work and the grey day, >i don't know. time for bed. > >xoxo >megan > >mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu > >visit the NEWLY UPDATEDmagnetic fields web page at: >http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp

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Sinister: in defense of myself
by mkl206＠is8.nyu.edu 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

hi again i don't normally consider myself the sort of person who's at all controversial, so i was a little surprised when i received both positive and negative responses about my last post. i didn't mean for anyone to take what i said as some dogma, or in fact a statement that b&s have sold out or anything, in fact i specifically said that they *haven't* changed. or that the fan base hasn't, other than the fact that it's larger now. i dind't say that i felt the list had changed, except that it's grown larger. nor did i say that's bad. but the truth is, humans generally are reluctant to change. i haven't left the list, i still love it. but there's a difference between the heady days of discovery. i've known belle and sebastian for over two years now, and the truth of the matter is that they can't excite *me* as much as they did in my initial days of discovery, if only because i nkow the songs now, they're expected. they aren't the beautiful surprise they once were. this is muddled i'm sure. but it's the nature of life. when i hear a new ep, a new song, i get that same beautiful thrill that i once did when i first fell in love with judy or jane. but... don't you understand? things change for better or worse, and it's not wrong to share. and if i miss that, it doesn't mean that i'm elitist. at least, not by my definition of the word. i'm not going to cry and i don't think that i'm better than anyone else. it's just that the joy of discovery is gone. does that muddle it more or explain it? if you still don't understand, that's ok. with 900 people, it's ridiculous to think that everyone will. but i never said that i wasn't ridiculous. ;) xoxoxox megan mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu visit the NEWLY UPDATEDmagnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B&S Everywhere
by Mick McMick * Sandcastle Records 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

Hello... Well, I think Belle & Sebastian are now officially everywhere. Or at least they were today. Firstly, while returning from lunch, I detected a familiar sound emanating from the battered old speaker which thrust itself proudly out onto the street from "Outer Limits." Outer Limits, by the way, is a record store, and that familiar noise was, yes, Belle & Sebastian, playing "Sleep the Clock Around." I found it a bit surprising, as I usually only hear either A) Garage rock B) Various cool 60's records or C) Punk rawk coming from said speaker. The guy who works there is mighty cool, though, and Magnetic Megan found an Orange Juice 7" there, so nyah. Then I had bought my flatmates "Christmas" presents, to make up for the fact that I had forgotten when it was actually Christmastime, and better 2 months late than never. One of them was a copy of Sinister, which my flatmate loved, and actually said she was thinking about buying it. Hm, I guess I've already done half the conversion work. I am inclined to agree with the school of thought which says the more B&S fans, the merrier. I kind of like that, and I like that at least one of the bands I like best is one that other people like too. I guess I shouldn't complain, it's not as if New Order had a shortage of fans. Having said all that, no one's stopped me and said they liked B&S when I've worn my shirt, though a B&S fan from Athens did come into the chat the other night. However, I can also see that it is nice when you can see a band you like 10 feet in front of you, talk to them and tell them you like their music, and not see their eyes glass over, and even ask them to do a song on a compilation you're doing without immediately getting turned down. Or better yet, ask them a question about their band and they offer to send you two 7"S and a flexi ;) That's just a lovely feeling, and I don't think anyone could say that wanting that feeling is wrong. Having said that, I never felt that way about B&S, who have always seemed to be a band that a lot of people liked, and somewhat unreachable, though not entirely so. As a consequence, I never felt my heart harden as they graced the pages of CMJ, who reported in this week's issue about Tigermilk and the upcoming side-projects. And even if one of the virtually unknown bands I liked became a big thing, it would only make me happier. There's always someone unknown doing something interesting and new, after all. Incidentally, I was just at my office hours today, and I perused said new issue of CMJ. Indeed, Spiritualized are nowhere to be found on the charts (though you won't find me lamenting) and I believe Ani Difranco is at the top. I'm pleased to note the Mojave 3 album is number 3 though. B&S are still in the top 50 somewhere, after I believe 21 weeks. And on the subject of how the next album will sound... B&S have never seemed like a band which reinvents themselves to me. I expect the 4th album to be a very similar record in sound to previous ones, with perhaps a slightly differing tone to all the songs. Perhaps this is because they put all the most different-sounding songs on their EPs? Certainly with 3...6...9 and Lazy Line Painter Jane in hand you could claim this, but you might have to hide TINKERTOYS behind your back and cross your fingers when you said "Yeah, *all* of the EPs." fweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep (that's the sound a button makes when you play it) /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick/Sandcastle Records <<->> bp224996(a)ohiou.edu \ / Sandcastle Records Homepage: ICQ#5056758 | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | -Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Me too miss
by Pamela Hutchinson 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

Ailsa Ross wrote I am sorry, I really don't want to be all moany, and I could have done this privately, or run off crying to Honey, but I wondered what you all think, am I the only one who actually wants people to like Belle and Sebastian? I do, I don't want my friends to think they're sensitive cos they listen to Placebo or cool cos they listen to their dad's David Bowie records... blah blah blah I would love B+S to be dead dead popular because their songs are that good. It's as simple as that, they deserve to be well-liked. And of course we voted for them at the Brit awards, they are far and away the best band nominated. You don't have to get political. whoooops! I nearly ranted love late at night pamela xxxx -- xx xx ------------------------------------------------------------ x x x glampam says - 'thank-you for your time' - Look!! The sun's x x shining, turn the computer off and have some fun!! x ------------------------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: CMJ Review and Charts
by turk 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

The March issue of CMJ New Music, College Music Journal's magazine, has a review of "This Is Just A Modern Rock Song." Gives it a generally favorable review, raving about "Slow Graffiti" - saying its "another of the band's high points to date" - and praising the title track, while saying that "The Gate" and "I Know Where The Summer Goes" aren't up to the usual B & S standards. CMJ's top 75 radio airplay chart has "The Boy With The Arab Strap" checking in at number 43. At number 4 is Stereolab's "Aluminum Tunes" and number 1 is Spiritualized's "Live At The Albert Hall" turk ___________ "All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure." - Mark Twain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: I saw a Tigermilk for sale
by simon barr 11 Feb '99

11 Feb '99

>On the rec.vinyl newsgroup list someone in the UK was selling an original for >325 pounds. I saw a tigermilk at the weekend for £120. I assumed it wasn't in very good condition but when I looked, the record and cover were absolutely mint. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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