August 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: two cents on Eyes Wide Shut debate (no B&S content!:))
by Kin WOO 21 Aug '99

21 Aug '99

Hey there Sinisterinies! Now's the time to put in my two cents on the "Eyes Wide Shut" debate, having just seen it here in Australia. And the conclusion is way overhyped and that if it came from any other director other than Stanley Kubrick would be dismissed as self-indulgent and wanky, which of course it is. Though the film definitely has strong merits. Nicole Kidman puts in a mesmerising performance, and I liked Vinessa Shaw's (and her cool name!) sweet prostitute, a beacon of warmth relative to the cold depravity of most of the characters. I thought the film was filmed in a very lavish and rich way with warm baroque colours, appropriate contrast to the clinical coldness of most of the characters. As for the music, the first time the plinking piano sound was used, it was fine. But when it re-appeared for the fifth time, everyone in the audience was tearing their hair out. It seemed like it was put in to inject some needed tension, but failed in its monotony. I thought the themes of the novel were unique and original, and I wish more focus was put on the whole dreams/reality aspect of it, instead of oh! Look another breast! Nicole's speech at the end nicely wrapped up the themes of the film- that of dreaming, temptation and sexual frustration (I think!) and how they were now awake to the realities of their love for each other. The film also had interesting things to say about how wealth and ennui with life can lead to terrifying loss of morals and self. But the damage was already done, mostly from the slow pace and of course the infamous orgy scene, which was not only disgustingly inappropriate but hilarious in the way only porn films can be. All I could keep thinking, was whether these people were actors or porn stars. I also thought how weird this must be for Tom Cruise to be placed in the middle of. There were some terrible performances in the film, notably the girl whose father just died, who says she loves Tom. She couldn't even convey her sadness or anxiety-coming across like a constipated fit! Tom, unfortunately suffered the same, playacting a lot of the time, and all I could see was his frustration at not being able to even put across frustration. He's the Ryan Philippe (handsome, questionable acting skills) to Nicole's Reese Witherspoon (beautiful, can act her husband off the screen). He also seemed stilted and mechanical at times. As for Marie Richardson who plays the hooker who intervenes to save Tom, I couldn't imagine how Jennifer Jason Leigh (originally slated for the part) would have been in the role. After all, all it required for her to be naked for all her screen time and speak behind a mask. Jennifer is much too good for that. I also thought it was so hypocritical that all we see is female nudity and lesbian sex, and so little nudity from men. The whole movie seemed like a product of a misogynist, indulging his adolescent fantasies. I thought women were mostly objectified in the movie, either being hookers or flirting with men. Even poor Nicole seems to have been used as an object in those imagined sex scenes with the naval officer. I bet she would have flat out refused to do those scenes, if it had been anyone other than Kubrick. There was a genuine creepiness and eerieness about the whole masked business, undermined of course by the gratuitous and totally unnecessary sex. I read that in America they digitally obscured it and even cut out a minute, something I normally disapprove of. But I think I would have enjoyed the film a lot more if it had. Basically to conclude, if you want to see a film about bored, rich, oversexed beautiful people, go see the far superior "Cruel Intentions". At least that film was shorter and way more enjoyable. Well that's my two cents, hope this encourages some more debate (didn't want to read other reviews of it others have posted till I saw it)- and sorry there's no B&S content Seeya Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: so give me give me give me the power
by Blake E. Hamilton 21 Aug '99

21 Aug '99

yea yea yea! yay i'm back, though i've never really left, you see? my stupid college had shut down my computer, phone and tv for over a week, but now i'm back, and ready to be arsed. so much has happened since i've returned to school that i am not sure if i can fit it into one large and generally unassuming post. i've been reading a bit and writing, whoa, yes! so far i've got around 8 pages of a first person narrative of a man reflecting upon his childhood in which many doctors misdiagnosed him being insane. though he knew he wasn't crazy, as a 16 year old he acted the way he thought he should have acted--therefore making himself nuts, trying to pretend he was in the first place. i like the idea, yet i'm not sure how to document such a downfall. oh oh oh so many crushes have passed during this first week. one ended horribly, though. a sorority sister of one of my good friends had caught my eyes all of last term, and then when i arrived last week, i saw her, she's an RA too! i made it my duty to speak with her. so after many many sleepless nights and forgotten meals that just sat upon their plates, i decided to act. honestly, it was such a simple crush, but i felt trapped in a marquez novel. faraway love is a virus, don't let anyone tell you any differently. i had never spoken with her, nor knew who she was, but she captured my every thought, and truly possessed all that i wished i was. well, after a few odd coincidences (her birthday was a day after mine, the 12th of august, just a week ago, almost) i struck up a conversation with her. my boyish charms were no match for her. it was obvious i was way out of my league. well during an RA leadership session we both made remarks about our classmates and teachers, but it was nothing deep. i quietly said, 'i'm blake'. and then she introduced herself, but after that, she got really quiet. as soon as the class ended, i was about to say something very sweetly, but she was already gone. i suppose i could have run after her and forced something, but sometimes a little is enough. i could go on, but my troubles are enough. b&s content: you all turned me on to the tindersticks. and i love everyone on this list for that. gracious kisses blake the nerdy shy eyed pacifist ~~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials." - Jarvis Cocker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You are all so...
by E. A. Hostetter 21 Aug '99

21 Aug '99

sweet - intelligent - fun! I love love love all the emails you've sent - especially the one from Japan (I'm terrible with names.) MR. J's DEN OF DISCONTENT Not sure if he's still on the list but Jason D.S. is a fine boy. Leave him in peace. He is a kind soul (believe it or not!) JOB I'm feeling a little down because I didn't get the job I was after...they said my writing style was too technical...duh, that's all that's in my portfolio. No flair. Oh well. LISTEE COINCIDENCE A funny coincidence occurred on the list today. It turns out fellow listee Elisabeth in Manchester (formerly of Toronto) knows my friend Elizabeth in Los Angeles, and E#1 wrote to ask me. Doesn't help that my name is also Elizabeth. B&S CONTENT I was buying groceries this afternoon and singing "Like Dylan in the Movies" a little louder than I should have been amid the hasidic jews and grandmas. Have a warm, wonderful weekend! E.A. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hello, i'm new!
by Craig Podd 21 Aug '99

21 Aug '99

Hello everyone! After returning from a weeks holiday, i find my inbox is very busy, but there in the middle of the barrage of emails is the one saying i have been given a voice!Oh what joy! it made catching up on a weeks worth of sinister goings on a whole lot more worthwhile! Anyway, my name is Craig and im from Shropshire in England (any other Belle and Sebastian fans around here?) I also spend time in Derby where i am studying graphic design and tried to join the sinister mailing list previously but the crappy macintosh email program we use at uni couldn't cope. To the Northampton fan who mentioned meeting up for a drink before football matches this season, it sounds like a good idea - im a Shrewsbury fan,so a bit of third division rivalry could be on! Ive got to go because my brother needs the computer and is getting annoyed with me, so thats all for now! Craig ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ????
by Sarah Drayton 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

Hi sinisterines I will probably embarrass myself here(as per usual!) so I will be quick. I've been listening to friend's copy of Tigermilk(yay Lisa!) and I keep on mishearing lyrics. The main one is in "Expectations", where I thought that Stuart was singing "Making models of the Velvet Underground in pain"?! I know people have experienced these problems with other B+S songs but has anyone else thought he was singing this too? Maybe I just find the idea of Lou Reed in pain amusing...whatever! Later Sarah ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Fox Hunting
by Jason Andreas 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

Colin said: >>this is why I don't mind fox >>hunting coz thats like the shoe on the other foot well, I don't know about that, after all the foxes may not have eaten the rabbit as they were scared of the humans so closeby. Also, foxes hunting rabbits is natural, humans hunting foxes is different as they use advantages such as horses, huge packs of dogs and guns. The rabbit had far more chance of escape than the average fox. The foxes are driven out of their natural habitat as it's destroyed to make homes for humans, they have to go through our rubbish (and even attack out beloved pets) in order to scrape some sort of survival. I'm of course sorry that your rabbit was killed, but I'll bet that if you'd left it, the foxes would have indeed eaten it. And ask yourself this, was the fox (who was acting on a natural hunting instinct) really evil, compared to, say, a bunch of toffs who marvel at a fox being torn from limb to limb by a bloodthirsty pack of dogs? A fox killed my guinea pig once, but although I was upset, I could accept it as part of the natural order of things, I mean, we kill cows and pigs and many other animals, don't we. Oh, and I'm not an animal rights campaigner, vegetarian or anything like that, I just try to see the picture from all points of view, that's all. -- Jason Andreas -- Anyone Can Play Air Guitar -- /-----------------------\ | Drop The Debt | \-----------------------/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: you're so pretty
by Kimberly Rehak 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

HEY! yeah, you...hi! well, i've got nothing to say, really, but after reading the likes of the other posts recently, i shall say this baby will fit quite nicely. so....last day of work here <happy sigh> and after tonight and tomorrow night in the shoe store, my four jobs of the summer are complete! i stole some energy tablets at job#4 my last night there and have been running around the office for the past two days. physically running. this prompts excessive teasing from my coworkers. "you'd better quit it with this energy shit, kim" they say to me. {insert transition} have you ever realized how pretty the belleandsebby cds are? the actual disks, i mean...silly me, for the past two+ years, i've just been appreciating the sound that escapes from it. i haven't been appreciating all of the work that has gone into making anything besides music! hm, i'd say the prettiest disk is the dog on wheels one. the curly handscript is quite fab and the thick black border is tops. IYFS comes in at second because it's *red* and has the little fox picture on it. who doesn't like a fox? (even if it does piss on your leg) speaking of which, the little neighbor brat got a new puppy yesterday and when he brought it over to show my little siblings, it pissed on his leg. haha reading marcus o's post about stomach trouble brought horrible memories of a particular night flying into my head. a word of advice: never drink 13 mugs of diet coke in an hour. you'll only end up losing to your friend who drank 14 and then feeling queasy for the rest of the night. if anyone thinks of more "you know you are a b&s fan when..." send them my way! <lifeinpink(a)yahoo.com> ok, now, i must run (physically, that's right=yikes!) tschus, KIMberly xx === ***************************************************************************** "i love my kitten. she washes her paws and face in such a grown-up-cat way." - _i love my kitten_ ***************************************************************************** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by Colin Campbell 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

Bastards, all those evil little bitches with bad shoes phoning in to get tickets for top of the pops in edinburgh before me so i couldn't get one, they will die, they will die, they will die; but we all have to die sometime and for them death is a release, freeing tham from a lifetime of bad shoes, unplanned pregnancy and abbusive partners. But how great it would have been to have stormed the stage during some shite, baring my arse to the nation bearing the legend- steps must die! (could I fit all that on my arse) Nevermind, I shall console myself in the knowledge that today I walked past comedian Phil Jupitus , who appeared to be talking to himself, they are all crazy you know, these celebrity types. Could someone please get me some help colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: um, well, i can't think of anything clever to put here
by kerry 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

good morning sinisterines. actually, it's 2 pm where i am, but i just woke up. so it counts as morning. i don't post very frequently, although i've been on this list for over a year. you all intimidate me quite a bit with your clever and eloquent postings. Anyway, today i woke up and immediately put on "slow graffiti" and thought i would write. the other night my boyfriend and i sort of broke up (we're "on a break" now, whatever that means). the process of breaking up spanned a 2 hour walk from boston's Massachusetts General Hospital to cambridge's harvard square. the entire time all i wanted to do was listen to slow graffiti. i tried playing it for myself in my head, which i'm usually pretty good at, but i got stuck after "there's a portrait in a back room which i keep for days upon". eventually i remembered the rest, but that wasn't until we were almost at harvard square, where we promptly got on the subway and went to his house so i could pick up my things and go home. so this morning i slept late because i turned my alarm clock off. i don't like sleeping late, although i do really like sleeping. i would go to bed earlier, but i find it just impossible to go to sleep if i've been awake for fewer than 15 hours. if it was up to me i'd sleep all day. hm. so instead of knowing i was losing it in the first moment of waking up this morning, i thought of slow graffiti. and that made me decide to write to you. and i guess that's all i have to say. -kerry "people look so much better alone." -taxi driver wisdom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: did anybody go to bigchil/cropredy/have an amazing egg lips experience (AKA what i did with my summer holls) + Free Marine Research/london picnic/hefner/the other hefner/etc
by Taylor JM 20 Aug '99

20 Aug '99

+advanced apologies for length & at the overdue-ness of this ..ermmm things were hectic then i wasn't here..... + i started waffling a few days ago and have only just had chance to finish.in fact this is three sessions worth. sorry. PICNIC FOOTBALL SHOCKER first off sincere apologies to all i managed to axe (notably trousers & mark casserole) during the last pic-nic footy (unless i've just missed more recent picnics that is). too many beers makes jim a bad late + crap tackler. top fun though. as long as i didn't (accidentally) deck you. and mark i'm sure i never touched you as i ran past you that one time, either that or i almost didn't touch you and award you my old footie nickname for when i was very small....butterman. i kinda fell in a dollop quite easily. oh yeah and if martin, i am jim "the next david james" taylor, does that mean i'm shit or not? i'm not currently addicted to computer games, perhaps more fine beers and cheese exported back form la france. well villa do have the only 100 % record in the premiership, at least for a few more minutes at time of typing (and it was only for those minutes too :( IT WASN'T THAT BAD WAS IT?(loose club@Hqs camden lock)(post london picnic) Speaking of the same day, i trust at least some of you had at least half as good a time as i had at that club i dragged everyone along to....my mate actually took me up on the suggestion of calling the info tel # on the flier to suggest they sorted the PA out so it didn't deafen the punters quite so much...which they didn't take to too kindly. think i'll do the same....i guess this deems i'm starting a campaign for quiet music (no i'm not getting old honest) but maybe just quiet-er, so your ears don't hurt isn't too much to ask. i on;y noticed it near the end, when i also noticed all but a couple of sinisterines had left - trust this wasn't too much of a bad reflection on the place, and more that you were all as pissed as i was. i had the headache before the club, but perked up with chocolate, cola + not overly excessive drinking. won't say no more about that night - hope all survived reasonably intact in all ways. (just read that ailsa actually has recovered form the hangover which was good news. a night to tell the sinister grandchildren about i'm sure. . . . shit what a prospect!) HEFNER HEFNER HEFNER @ the jazz cafe. i was glad martin needed to hug too, cos, well it was that good. well nuff said. TIGERMILKING ...nah - I'M a folky old bastard. ermmm apparently you could (according to the very coherent and relevant alisdair ginola at said soiree) "Pick out Jim's authentic purple trousers from a line up including mauve and maroon ones and win your own weight in used condoms." aaah what a lovely thing. reading alsidairs fine posts rather than that actual prize obviously. SEE i do read a bit of the list once in a while! anyway i'm so much of a born again virgin these days anyway you wouldn't have got the prize off me. ermmm yeah anyway . well unless, mmm. so nice weather innit. anyway, for the minutes, apologies from my purple trousers and i. next one is?????? well hope it was a fantastic evening. i was around that time standing in a field in oxfordshire in torrential rain, balancing my waterproof's hood just behind my ears so as not to impair the sound of one of our nations finest singy/songy/guitarry type geezers, Richard Thompson. i even dried my glasses so i could hear "1952 Vincent Black Lightning" better. If any sinisterine ever fancies joining me to make a pilgrimage to the National Motorcycle Museum near my parents house in Birmingham (oh alright, solihull) to view the bike which caused? this song let me know. i'll also fight anyone (or at least blow football at dawn) who dares challenge me on the suggestion that this is a qunitessential modern folk classic, in the traditionalish sense. obviously you have your pub singalongs, i mean i think oasis constitute folk from their existence in the nations consciousness etc) (oh yeah i was at CROPREDY the Fairport Convention festival, and apart from fantastic beards, the wonderful world of Wadworth's Ales, (i stared the 'Old Timer' right in the eyes) i also saw ralph "so much more than the streets of london" mctell, (very well respected in folk circles dontcha' know..), plus steve gibbons & his dylan project do a better dylan than i've seen dylan usually do, plus i slept through most of the paul mitchell band (the old timer taking effect again see), so i don't think you missed much trousers, (though i can't be sure quite what i missed - but basically this bloke can't get signed, and the general consensus of my posse was that this wasn't the greatest travesty ever. It better bloody not be honey anyway now! i did hear a bit, but i forget which isn't best sign. Oh yeah i also saw Fairport Convention which was good. (it would be fun to get some anti-folk cracks back but i know you're all too damn nice!) before craprody was THE BIG CHILL a delightful little festy in the wiltshire/dorset borders, held in victorian pleasure gardens built by General Pitt Rivers in 18something or other. best bits include on site peacocks, macaws and the main stage being and outdoor victorian theatre with delightful painted backdrop and 2 f-off stacks dropped either side of it. Plus the gardens are very pleasant, its an english heritage sight. this year was a bit bigger twice as many bods (2,000), plus slightly less chilled due to "occasional rain" (well frequent torrentials actually but i managed to reference terry callier so ha) and the odd mad raver type demanding serious beats during an ambient roger eno/lol hammond performance. also bj"he gets everywhere"cole with luke vibert, fridge (supported godspeed on tour in london anyway) Plaid, the other HEFNER (inertia records) who i didn't watch loads of- i think it was raining, but wasn;t damascus stylee converted like i was when i saw OUR hefner for the first time;Instrumental (who have been doing six piece string covers of electro/dance classics for a few years now) without my drum'n'bassy mates MAO this year (see them, they rock. or dance or something) Mixmaster Morris and rounded off by the bollywood brass band. and rain.plus lots more, it was a festival obviously) stan/john/DJ was in Spain that weekend (i think) playing a festival in Spain with Marine Research (formerly Marine Salvage & Research Limited as a spanish fanzine reminded me) as were our Hefner and the usual big money festival suspects + good stuff too. Manics pulled out - obviously no armitage shanks flown in especially). the sinisterbowliefooty-damon accompanied me down to the 'enchanted garden' festy as it is known and helped me drink lots of red wine. we also blew air into the silver bag in the wine box to make a fantastic camping pillow. surely a viz top tip if ever there was.plus the chill festy has a late night installation art trail which makes a bit of a change to late night pushing overs of chemical loos etc. Anybody taking in Damon & Naomi upstairs @ garage in a week or twos time? i like lots and lots. oh yeah blame any bad spelling on a crap spell checker or the fact i have to push off to watch west ham vs villa. naturally i will be supporting the northern and far superior claret and blue contingent. and i know half the list won't have a clue what i'm on about so (....snip) [and that was now 4 days ago.] MC SOLAR'S RING Inbetween festies was celestial hot action. who saw the money shot???? Well i saw it good and proud in the sky above Neufchatel en Brey (sp?) where we cycled from dieppe. Utterly recommend cycling through french countryside..well that bit anyway. amazing beer/baguette/patiserie stops. i can still smell the camembert :) I'd ask if anybody else had amazing eclipse experiences, but i'm sure i know how to use the search tool. MARGARINE RESEARCH ok - here we go: Rough Trade GIG tomorrow (RT NOTTING HILL) has been shifted cos the old bag upstairs has taken out an injunction against gigs at the shop or something, so is now at 6.30 at some arts club down the road, but if you get to the shop at 6pm anyway i think the plan is to shepherd everyone there together.tomorrow being sat 20/8/99. (free) MR @ 1st day at reading fest Fri & Leeds Sat., teeny stage i think. MR gig 2/9/99 at Water Rats with mmmm i think i was told American + very good ???, anyway is: sarah dougher..... 7/9/99 DJ (of MR) will be errr DJing at the Brassy gig @ borderline (+probably at the John Jervis Where Its Is At Where You Are Scalafest same night of london mogwai gig 16/10/99 quickspace/cometgain/rosita (i think)) 11/9/99 Aston Villa give arsenal a good hiding at highbury (mmmm) 17/18/19 /9 we all/some go to ATPs ???? :) :) :) OK so sorry for witterings, perhaps its good that i don't post too often. and check dates/existence of gigs before travelling etc. too much already jim +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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