August 1999 - Sinister - missprint.org

Re: Sinister: "I AM SO SCARED!!!"
by Heatrexo＠aol.com 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

In a message dated 8/3/99 9:58:02 AM Central Daylight Time, Scott.Turner(a)marshmc.com writes: > > Has hollywood conditioned your emotions so much, that you couldn't > emerse yourself into this movie and be petrified???!!! I am SO > SCARED!!!! Really I am. Actually for one thing, I don't think Hollywood has conditioned my emotions to feel anything. Since, First of all, everyone (i.e. hollywood) said it's the "scariest movie since the exorcist" and blah blah blah...i didn't feel it during the movie. probably because the person next to Alex bursted out in the middle of a "scary" part that he "couldn't believe this fucking shit" which made me laugh..someone else made a loud fart noise. I'm not trying to decredit your fear by anymeans. I'm the one who wouldn't go to the bathroom the rest of the night because I saw Arachnophobia. I think if i saw it under different circumstances the effect would be different. I would be terrified. >>What on earth is scary to you then? where do i begin... In highschool, my creative writing teacher called me "the poet who's afraid of everything" I also don't think it was much that the people who said they weren't scared were desensitized. it's just that I went into the movie with thoughts of people actually walking out because it was so scary and all the hype that's put around Blair Witch Project. I'm also the same person who has to watch Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in fear of the oompa loopas. also the powder man in Lost Highway gives me nightmares... But alas, that's not the same kind of fear as Blair Witch..fear you can't see. >>The film technique was truly inventive and forceful. I agree with you I have to admit I don't think i'll ever look at the large woods that are a few houses down from me in the same light again.. I'll leave you with a story... When i was about fourteen, I went up north with my family and my aunt and uncle. my uncle is notorious for trying to scare people and i'm definitely easy prey. One night I was lying in bed unable to sleep, and my uncle went outside below the window and started making noises. I didn't know it was my uncle, so i started to scream and cry and kick.. so anyways, i'm now unable to go upnorth and sleep properly without sleeping pills because whenever i hear any kind of noise i freak out.. yes, i childish story..but at least i can admit it i haven't been up there in years though. you probably all think i'm pyscho...eek love and sparkles, Heatherxoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: The Blair Shit Project
by .gibby. 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

One thing that I noticed about the stick tree people is that they were all made of sticks, but above them all was a LARGE one made of PINE branches, pine needles all over, which I took as representing the witch, as she was supposed to be hairy. -gibby. >important. and what was up with the stick people in the trees? Where those >there on purpose or did they just come across them and what the hell were >they supposed to mean?? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Baa Ram Ewe
by Chris Jones 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

chris.jones(a)saqnet.co.uk Hmmmm, Haven't posted in ages, so I thought I'd give it a try. I'm a bit out of practice, but I should get the hang of it pretty quickly. Unfortunately, In my hasty excitement to post to the list once more, I have forgotten one crucial element - decent content. I can use headings though, a tactic not previously used. PICNIC Missed both of them. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN Very good aren't they. OVERUSE OF ~#P(U<?N\|C=T$%U"A,.TION TYPE THINGIES Fine by me. OTHER LIST SUBJECTS Have an opinion on all of them, but wish to keep them to myself. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: In Defense of invention
by Scott Turner 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Sorry for the double post- and sorry for insighting a negative thread and getting people peaved, but i wanted to give a proper defense of Blair without cheap shots at people who didn't like it. (Intimations of B&S content at the end.) Please don't read if you haven't seen Blair Witch. I think I understand where the Witch hunt is coming from but I still fervently disagree with it because it is not dealing with the movie on its own terms. Ask the question: Why was there no character development? - the movie is a fake. What's it faking. Its supposed to be actual 16mm film reels that a bunch of wankers were shooting for a documentary. There is no real character development, because the footage they are filming has absolutely no interest with the lives of the filmakers. The footage is not supposed to be about heather, mike and josh- its supposed to be enough film and DAT that heather can go into the editing room, do a voice over and put together a documentary for her class. Personally, I liked the non-character development in the sense that you learned about these three people, very similarly in how they would have learned about each other. Heather became more and more annoying as the film went on, so annoying that you just end up hating the dumb-bitch. Same with Mike- you want to chop his head off when you find out the dumb-fuck threw away the map. And josh?- caught some where between redneck and Marilyn Manson. Are any of them likeable? I sure don't think so. which leads, i think to the interesting ethical dimension of the film. We are the forth person along on the hike, and the most disabled of the lot. We see through the limitations of a shitty cameras eye, and hear through a DAT that hasn't been set up very well. We're like some fucked up tag along beast that can't say or do anything but is put through the torment of being at the whimsy of their fucked up decisions. The ethical dimension- I not only felt scared for my own mutant camera/dat body, but I felt really bad for them. I mean I did not like them, but I felt really bad for them. I mean do you really want all those kids like them to die horrible deaths. Really. It was a peversely empathetic experience. Their dialogue- do most people like them speak as if a professional writer were scripting their everyword. of course not. They say fuck way too much. Don't believe, go outside and listen. Which leads me to the point of emersing yourself in the movie and the jaded comments. This movie is very emersable, so much so, that lots of people puke in the theatre because their senses are so disoriented. The movie fucks with the forth-persons (the viewers) ability to form knowledge. Not to go off on a Kant tangent, but, we form knowledge by synthesizing our multiple sensations of an object or experience through time into our intellect so we clearly "understand" an object or experinece. This film incessantly inhibited our ability to "know" things in the movie. Our visuals were almost always poor (so poor that the close up of the bundle couldn't make out whether they were josh's fingers or his intestines) and the sound was constantly inhibited, not being able to decipher sounds and was many times disjoined from the visuals themselves (ie. the last scene, mike gets knocked down, the edit cuts to heathers reel, but the DAT is still with mike in the basement. We see Heathers visuals, but only faintly hear her screams because the recorder is all the way in the basement. As she approaches the basement we hear her screams startlingly louder and louder until she is in the same room with the DAT, sees mike and gets clubbed. It was absolutely brilliant- hitchcock would have loved that sequence more than anybody!). Which is where for me the fright was- not simply in the unknown, but the fact that I was trying so hard to know things in the film with my senses, but the film wouldn't let me, like I was a cripple in some fucked up dream. That for me was petrifying. Back to hitchcock- hitchcock was brilliant and scary. But that was before most of us were born. He set the standard for the horror flick, and his movies were truly great. He made the rules of the genre- and for over thirty years we've been subjected to below average films following these rules like they came from Moses. Can their be another Hitchcock? The genre has become so cliche that in my opinion the best horror movie of recent years was gus van sant's shot-by-shot remake of psycho- weird, yes- postmodern, yes- a final comment on the genre, yes. What I love about the Blair Witch Project is that it was trying to do something new with the emotion "fear". It is inventive. Instead of ripping everything off from the father hitchcock, it set its sight on creating something different. Untimely, yes. Different, yes, Emotive, imo, yes. Sounds a bit like Belle and Sebastian in that slant, doesn't it. .scott Memo from Lana622 on 3 August 1999, 11:36 Tuesday To: sinister cc: (bcc: Scott Turner) Subject: Sinister: In Defense of the Non-Jaded People Hello everybody, I don't get mad very often, but I'm slightly, um, peeved now. If it wasn't for the extremely supportive show of anti-Blair Witch sentiments--we're going to start a club, you know--I wouldn't send this to the list, but I feel the need to defend all the others on the list who didn't like this movie. Sorry if it offends anyone who liked the film, just remember how bad I'll feel tomorrow for sending this, if that makes you feel better. Scott Turner writes: >>Not just that most of the criticisms completely didn't know how to deal with the movie on its own terms ("uh, the character development was a bit shakey",... "uh, the dialogue left alot to be desired, I think hemmingway could have done a better job with it"),<< Okay, here's what I have a problem with. Besides the fact that there was NO character development, the dialogue sucked! I hate Hemingway, but at least he wrote sentences that didn't always contain the word "fuck." How can you accept that as decent dialogue? Those actors were obviously running out of things to say, and it was painfully obvious. They'd sort of look around after a while, say, "Um, FUCK!" and then look very pleased with themselves. >>I mean people should do psychology experiments on you. What on earth is scary to you then?<< I can tell you what's NOT scary...obnoxious people running around in the woods. I was rooting for the Blair Witch, especially in the case of that Heather chick. She should have been the first to go, she reminded me of too many people I went to school with. >>A confessional ending that ties up all the loose ends for you, puts your emotions in a tidy little package until the sequel???!!!! I am really interested to find out what you'all think is frightening.<< I do enjoy it when the movie is CLEAR as to what's going on, but oh god, that's probably just me being dumb, huh? Have you ever seen an Alfred Hitchcock? He manages to be scary and clear at the same time. >>In Blair Witch, there were no suprises, no sexual exploitation, no special effects, at all, yet if you emersed yourself into the experience, it was absolutely frightening. The film technique was truly inventive and forceful. See it without prejudice. Shed the emotive programming and feel something fresh for a change. Leave your insulation of jade and irony at home, and expose yourself to something new.<< Heather, you can be honest...we know it's you, darling!! Okay, that's enough of me being bitchy for the day, and now I'm feeling bad and sorry for being mean. Now I'll think of nice things to put me in a better mood. Spunky Flowers (thanx paul) She's Losing It (who needs boys...la la la) Sunny Days Puppies and kittens Mick Cooke Love, Lana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: blair witch/eric weisbard
by Ciflux＠aol.com 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

...and I delurk for a quick second to chime in on a couple of topics. BLAIR WITCH: I'm going to have to go along with the naysayers on this one. I wanted to feel real horror, really I did. For two weeks, I made a concerted effort to avoid ANY discussion of this film so I could go in fresh -- and believe me, that wasn't easy if you spend any time on the internet. What can I say? Good idea, OK execution, and an ending that gets more chilling as I piece it together...but scary? Terrifying? Sorry, I can't say that I felt anything more than the mildest case of jitters. Scott wrote: << To me, the best of what is frightening ("Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer," "Repulsion," even "Taxi Driver" or "Night of the Hunter" and many more) is so because it is based, in part or whole, in a world that any of us could inhabit or stumble into. >> True. I find myself far more terrified by certain news stories than any obviously-fictitious film (which was another problem I had with Blair Witch -- it was impossible to suspend reality, so obvious it was that "it's only a movie"). Here in America, it is currently a fad to shoot up schools, office buildings, post offices. The Columbine shootings left me shaken for days afterward PRECISELY because, let's face it, there's not a whole lot of difference between the shooters and any other bitter outcasts in American schools. In my most alienated high school moments, I could almost imagine doing the same thing myself. In comparison, a made-up film about witches failed to do much for me. ERIC WEISBARD/B&S So he was condescending toward B&S, the Bowlie Weekender, and everything else that doesn't obviously "rock" a la such trailblazers as Eminem and Kid Rock. Is any regular reader of his work surprised? I'm offended that it's somehow "upper-middle-class" or "highbrow" to turn away from rock & roll for more challenging/subtle pop music forms. But this is the guy who, five years ago, blamed the alternative rock scene for not letting Kurt Cobain be happy as a rock star, thus precipitating his death. (Funny, Billie Joe and Billy Corgan somehow managed to survive...) This is also the guy who, in a fanzine interview, suggested that he judges his personal tastes by the masses -- if lots of people don't share his viewpoints, there must be something suspect. It's not as if Weisbard doesn't know a lot about music -- he and I used to work at the same college radio station in the 1980s, and I know that he once was on the ball. It's a shame he's turned into just another clueless rock critic. I'm just happy seeing B&S in a major newspaper myself... mike ciflux(a)aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: freelancer needs job
by alex tobin 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Does anyone on the list work for IPC, EMAP or any other... erm... 'media mogul' based in Britain? I've recently parted company with MusikExpress (Germany-based) and am looking to write for an English-language mag. Please get in touch, and I will be able to fill you in on any details, aside from a few nosy questions of my own... Cheers a bunch, Alex +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The 'Great' Blair Witch Debate =) (or: Lick Me Mommy, Lick Me)
by Brian Pennington (Mick McMick) 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Hm... I think I already made my sentiments on the movie clear when I initially posted about seeing it some weeks ago. But I wanted to express a few responses to some things Lana said... Firstly she accused those of us who were scared of the Blair Witch of being citified. Well, without using the word 'citified,' anyway. I myself was a boy scout, went camping innumerable times, and was born & raised in Charleston, 'West-by-god-Virginia' which is about as far from a major center of population as a minor center of population can get. I was quite scared....although that bit about following the creek did indeed occur to me as well, my 'citified' compatriots thought this was ingenious ;) Evidently they did not get the Orienteering merit badge. Also, the thing that struck me as the most bizarre was that the Blair Witch project was put down and compared wistfully to the Exorcist, the only horror movie I have ever laughed at before. Perhaps it was karma. Anyway, the idea that some girl saying "Lick Me Mommy, Lick Me" is scarier than the Blair Witch is as funny to me as I found the Exorcist to be. Not that I'm saying anyone is wrong to disagree with me, but I still find the comparison odd. The Exorcist 3, now, that was scary, I'll admit. I think the thing that made the Blair Witch scary for me was that the directors grasped what is in my opinion the fundamental concept of horror movies. That is that the greatest fear humans have is the fear of the unknown. I first heard it mentioned in conjunction with Jacob's Ladder, which was the scariest movie I thought I'd seen until the Blair Witch Project. The idea is, they provide you with a hint of the possibilities, and your own imagination runs rampant on you, creating things more horriffic than any special effects budget or head-spinning girl. Perhaps those of us not impressed were those who could hold their imagination in check. Mick McMick @ work +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: blair witch AND B&S
by Scott Plagenhoef 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Greetings to all. I am making a Harry Lime-esque emergence from the shadows of lurkersville to add my two cents (or 3.2 pence) to the blair witch debate -- and follow that with (gasp) actual B&S content. First, I would like to thank the brave sinister folk who first stepped forward to slow down the runaway train of hype and cause celébre that is "Blair Witch." My roomate and I always suspected that some day we would become the two most jaded peeps on planet earth, but I never expected it would happen at age 26, and when we feared we were the only people not leaving the big witch film with our pants proverbially scared off we wondered if there was something profoundly off about us. Now we have company. Scott Parker wrote: Has Hollywood conditioned your emotions so much, that you couldn't emerse yourself into this movie and be petrified???!!! I would ask the same question, only in slight reverse: Has a constant stream of Hollywood dreck made anything that a bit different -- especially something whose success rests so much on concept (immediacy of poor film stock, suspension of disbelief, etc.) -- seem grander than it really is through comparison? Or, Have people's ability to judge a work on its execution rather than its concept (which frankly in these box-office scorecard times is what Hollywood usually sells us: Concept over execution) been impaired? Or, Is "Blair Witch" being championed for being different -- especially because the horror genre has run the Scream/"ironic horror" bit so far into the ground that it has probably reached China by now -- or do people really find it a well-done film? I would doubt (and sincerely hope) that any Sinister folk -- or anyone else -- who did NOT like the film had such a reaction because of a lack of emotion-producing soundtrack or stock horror film goobledygook (e.g. amatuer filmmaker has wits scared out of them in a tense moment from small animal running across their path). If that is the case, well then, that's really too bad. I agree with most of the previous criticism, so I won't regurgitate them. I simply did not find the film effective in its execution. The concept was great, but after that I actually think that the much lauded improvisational nature of the film betrayed the work. To me, there is very little development of anything psychological outside of -- again -- the concept. How does the audience know that Joel is losing his mind? Because another character tells us. Boo, that's cheating. Even the best of scenes (Heather's confessional) is undercut by the fact that the actor has no idea what is going on and doesn't know who she should be confessing/apologizing to. To me, the best of what is frightening ("Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer," "Repulsion," even "Taxi Driver" or "Night of the Hunter" and many more) is so because it is based, in part or whole, in a world that any of us could inhabit or stumble into. That would be true of "Blair Witch" were it not undermined -- again -- by the ridculous assertion that this is true. In America, much of the hype and word-of-mouth has been generated by the Web site and the post-film (READ: marketing) claims that the film is true. So, the scariest bit of all to me is that -- in the entertainment/news/soap opera hybrid that is the US of A (encompassing all from JFK to Jon Benet) -- that large portions of the American public actually believe that if three filmakers were lost in the woods and the footage was found years later that an appropriate forum for airing their final days is in a theatrical, commercial film -- and that many are disappointed when they find out it is fiction or refuse to believe this altogether. Now, of course not everyone thinks that, but either way the film is being trumpeted by everyone from reputed critics/magazines/newspapers to the teenagers who drone on and on about the so-called theories on the internet for its marketing technique, which baffles me. I have had multiple conversatoins with people who urge me to consult the film's Web site for further input, and don't seem to understand that the Web site should be independant of the product on the screen. It's almost like saying that a really kick-ass happy meal toy should be allowed to raise one's enjoyment of "Tarzan." (OK, it's not exactly like that; happy meals are ancillary money-making products, but the point is, please let's seperate the marketing and mythmaking from the actual film, OK?) I think simply people are so desperate for anything that smacks of originality that a concept film such as "Blair Witch" receives masterbutary praise for what it is not, both as art and a marketing vehicle. *WHEW* I am *so* incredibly sorry for that dull, rambling missive. Anyway, as promised (I feel like I just pulled a local television news-style scam in anticipation of B& S content -- "Wedding bells may be ringing for a 'Friends' star; after the break, we'll tell you which one!" OK: BELLE AND/OR SEBASTIAN The paper of record -- the New York Times -- managed to mention our favorite scottish pop stars (and spell Stu M.'s name wrong in a caption!) in this Sunday's paper. An essay by Eric Weisbard (Spin/Village Voice scribe) on how rock music no longer RAWKS (unless it is clownish Woodstock 99 buffonery), but rather draws inspiration from the world of electronica (sorry, his word, not mine), French and Brazilian pop, and minimalist pop and sits nicely and intelligently alongside jazz and cabaret instead of rebellling against these less visceral musical forms. Well, B&S were tossed in with Lucinda Williams, Moby, and the Flaming Lips as examples of such and, interestingly, had a taped TV performance on "Sessions" (a US public broadcasted show with eclectic, usually 30-minute musical sets, hosted by David Byrne) turned down for being "too unprofessional." Good for them; as Weisbard points out, it probably is a bit of a compliment. Bad for U.S. viewers, however. GRRR. Again, sorry, sorry, sorry for drawing out the "blair witch" debate; possibly, my droning will make everyone so sick of the subject that it will be forever banished. You're all the bee's knees *and* the cat's pajamas. scott. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I WANT YOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUU!!!!
by Claire Timmins 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Good afternooooon my sweets, Anyone want a chocolate eclair? After many months of hard done deliberation, the memories of the Queen Vic's Bloody marys (urrrgghhhhhh) and homelessness I decided to throw caution to the south coastal winds and go to ATP therefore myself and some other good fellows of the sinistereen (whom you all know but wouldnt really want to spend too much time with)would love to find out all the little personality traits of those going dahn to ATP this autumn, well the names would just suffice. I cant promise the organisational supremacy of Splats page but if you all send your name to this address then I can supply anyone who gives a damn the much exciting list. Anyone got a copy of Baccarat's 'yes sir I can boogie'?? Swap you Ally McCoist for it. cheery bye, Claire*** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: In Defense of the Non-Jaded People
by Lana622＠aol.com 03 Aug '99

03 Aug '99

Hello everybody, I don't get mad very often, but I'm slightly, um, peeved now. If it wasn't for the extremely supportive show of anti-Blair Witch sentiments--we're going to start a club, you know--I wouldn't send this to the list, but I feel the need to defend all the others on the list who didn't like this movie. Sorry if it offends anyone who liked the film, just remember how bad I'll feel tomorrow for sending this, if that makes you feel better. Scott Turner writes: >>Not just that most of the criticisms completely didn't know how to deal with the movie on its own terms ("uh, the character development was a bit shakey",... "uh, the dialogue left alot to be desired, I think hemmingway could have done a better job with it"),<< Okay, here's what I have a problem with. Besides the fact that there was NO character development, the dialogue sucked! I hate Hemingway, but at least he wrote sentences that didn't always contain the word "fuck." How can you accept that as decent dialogue? Those actors were obviously running out of things to say, and it was painfully obvious. They'd sort of look around after a while, say, "Um, FUCK!" and then look very pleased with themselves. >>I mean people should do psychology experiments on you. What on earth is scary to you then?<< I can tell you what's NOT scary...obnoxious people running around in the woods. I was rooting for the Blair Witch, especially in the case of that Heather chick. She should have been the first to go, she reminded me of too many people I went to school with. >>A confessional ending that ties up all the loose ends for you, puts your emotions in a tidy little package until the sequel???!!!! I am really interested to find out what you'all think is frightening.<< I do enjoy it when the movie is CLEAR as to what's going on, but oh god, that's probably just me being dumb, huh? Have you ever seen an Alfred Hitchcock? He manages to be scary and clear at the same time. >>In Blair Witch, there were no suprises, no sexual exploitation, no special effects, at all, yet if you emersed yourself into the experience, it was absolutely frightening. The film technique was truly inventive and forceful. See it without prejudice. Shed the emotive programming and feel something fresh for a change. Leave your insulation of jade and irony at home, and expose yourself to something new.<< Heather, you can be honest...we know it's you, darling!! Okay, that's enough of me being bitchy for the day, and now I'm feeling bad and sorry for being mean. Now I'll think of nice things to put me in a better mood. Spunky Flowers (thanx paul) She's Losing It (who needs boys...la la la) Sunny Days Puppies and kittens Mick Cooke Love, Lana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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