April 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: i don't think so....
by Glen 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

Hello there The simple fact of the matter of B&S becoming popular is this: It's not going to happen. Can you really imagine 8 year old school girls whose record collection includes such lumanaries as Five and the evil Steps begging their mummies to buy them the new Belle and Sebastian record? Likewise can you imagine the Phonics/Travis/Oasis "indie" fans suddenly reading deep into the words of a song that they heard on Sara Cox's Breakfast Show? Sara Cockhead won't even play Legal Man. (probably) I think that in a few months time B&S will only be as popular as, say Travis before "The Man Who". The problem is, as Lawrence said, that B&S are too clever for the charts. Also they are too sensitive, and would be branded as wussys for not having a loud and arrogant attitude. The video for Legal Man is not going to be about a bet which results in Stuart M having to do constant press ups for 12 hours while the rest of the band sit around and watch. B&S are not stereotypically rock n' roll. (sorry if I sound like a total dick) Glen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: long winded post that says nothing very intersting at all
by EliotNew＠aol.com 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

<<My apologies to anyone dismembered by my barbs about sharing opinions on non-public-yet records. >> Assuming this is more or less (likely more) extended to me, I would like to secure the Duke's return to a good night's sleep by assuring him I've yet in my life to be even lightly scratched by someone who uses the word "witter", much less the phrase "nah nah". I would advise the Duke to consider a sword, as his pen is not very mighty. I trust any further discussion can be done in private mails. Eliot +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: the bad judgement of a mute can often lead to an endless rant. sorry.
by aimee 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

oopsy. I've been out of the nursery for...oh, say...one year, give or take a day. And I DIDN'T REALISE IT. One year spent as a mute, wasted. The thing is, I subscribed at the start of '99 (oh, such a long time ago that was), then unsubscribed the same week that I was let out of the nursery in order to travel around Asia with my school's touring band, regretfully (not because of the trip, silly - because I had to unsubscribe). As soon as I returned and subscribed again, I must have been instantly out of the nursery! Oh, what a fool I was. I always thought that I must have been released already, but I suppose I'm such a sloth that I was too lazy to experiment and send anything to you lot. So now I write, and write a lot I shall, I fear. Scroll onwards... Well, my name is Aimee, and I'm 17 years old. I live in a place called Adelaide, Australia (does EVERYTHING in my life have to revolve around the letter A? Well...actually, no), and I'm doing Year 12 at school, which means I'm in my last year of high school, and I am very stressed out because of the pressure that it all involves. I shouldn't really be this stressed though, because I only want to get into Arts at uni next year, and we all know that that means I won't be getting a job. (: There must be something very wrong with me then, I hear you say. Hmm. NO! - I just want to get out of Adelaide and into Melbourne for uni, 'tis all!! Even though I'm SUPPOSEDLY on a two-week break from school at the moment, my horrible slave-driving school has decided to give us exams the first week back at school, which no other school in this ENTIRE NATION has decided to do! Can you believe that? Does that mean that my school is the scariest school in Australia? I think it does. I won't mention the name of my school though, just in case one of my teachers is reading this and then they'll give me evil stares when I go back. My English teacher loves me. Not LOVE loves me, no no, it's not that kind of a school, but I fear that I may be becoming the teacher's pet somewhat. All he's given me this year are 20/20s, and - don't get me wrong - I'm not COMPLAINING at all, in fact I'm almost inclined to love HIM relentlessly for the nice marks, but it's started to worry me. Even the things that I write which I think are complete crap he scribbles "absolutely breathtaking - brilliant, brilliant, profound, thought-provoking" in his red pen, and I sort of think that I should really be questioning his judgement, right? The problem is that he often yells these compliments across the classroom. For example, I am investigating the gothic and drug culture of this place here called James Place, a sort of alleyway/laneway thing for my English Major Investigative Study, in which you have to go out and interview at least four people. See, I often hang around people who are that way inclined - but no, I'm not a goth and I don't indulge in any thing stronger than aspirin - so I thought that interviewing them would be interesting for my private school chums to see. So, anyway, I handed up my proposal to my English teacher and he was reading through it while we read some poems (Sylvia Plath! Yay!), and suddenly, out of nowhere, he yells across: "Aimee! You've inspired me! This makes me feel like writing my next novel right away" (he's an author, see). So the rest of my class turn around and look at me, my reddening face hidden behind Sylvia's golden words and wondering what the hell he saw in my two par! ! ! agraphs. It's just a bit too much, see, and he never does it for anyone else - he's always reading my things out, and I'm sure that the rest of the class is starting to repress their hatred and jealousy. I DON'T WANT THE ATTENTION, OKAY MR...X...? Thankyou. ~~~~Martin said: "anyone wishing to carry on abusing me should write to me at toescantalk(a)yahoo.com. Anyone who knows where the toes thing comes from is a little bit special in my book." I know! I know! "Toes Can Talk" - that was a children's storybook, right? I remember reading that when I was a youngster. It was one of my all-time favourites! I thought it sounded so magical, all of those toes having a dinner party, and playing instruments and all. trés cute. I hope that's what you were talking about, or I'll feel silly. Ooh...would that make me "a bit special"? I hope in a good way. Anyway, that's all from me. I really only wanted to introduce myself to give my crush a chance to vote for me...hehe. Ulterior intentions and all that. Lovely. Oops, no b&s content, in my first post too! Uh...well, no one I know has even heard of them, except for my friends who are used to my constant b&s bantering and CD playing. I KNOW that there are a few Adelaidean fans on the list though, due to my year of getting to know y'all. Still, whenever someone makes a comment to me about my b&s bus t-shirt on the street, it's never because they've actually heard of the band. Oh well, them's the breaks. Jeez...this sure is a long post. I am so sorry, I couldn't control myself. Terima kasih for getting this far if you did (well, if you're reading this...duh...)! Hopefully I won't bore the pants off you next time... ~~aimee. x %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% You should have known That I'm a little despot, short and stout Here is my handgun, here is my crowd control When you tick me off then the bullets fly out Because free love is a whole lot of bullshit Free love is a whole lot of bullshit ~~Liz Phair, hello sailor %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Send someone a cool Dynamitemail flashcard greeting!! And get rewarded. 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Sinister: It's only baroque'n'roll, but I like it. I like it? No, I don't.
by Michael Jones 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

Arantxa - your vague suggestion is my poorly-executed command. [I Fought In A Wah!] Opens with a clap of synthetic thunder, then it's Geddes, fingers aflame, squashing monolithic groans out of a bent Casio. Appalling. [The Modem] A letter of complaint to US Robotics found in an abandoned satchel forms the basis for the Belles' first foray into hip-hop. Stevie hollers "It's says 56k, but it's not even close". The siren-wail that persists throughout is actually screaming Matador execs, timestretched, looped and generally spazzed about on an iMac. [Beef Or The Sun Risk] BSE or skin cancer? That's the stark choice facing the protagonist of this little gem. Neil's slap-bass is particularly striking. [Waiter, There's A Moon In My Soup] Sarah, struck by the reflection in her oxtail as she dines out on the terrace, wonders aloud about space travel. She rhymes 'Mir' with 'fear' and 'geo-stationary orbit' with 'Ronnie Corbett'. It's weightless. [Don't Leave The Flight Now, Baby] Stuart M wrestles with an unusually strong infant-with-a-death-wish, 30,000ft above the North Atlantic. Some well observed stuff about airline meals, but poisoned sonically by a lot of unnecessary 12-string noodling. [The Chong Girl] Stevie meets a young woman named Annabel, who offers to show him her early Stones bootlegs. Soon the hapless Mr Jackson is in a room with 250 naked men, and has to make his excuses. A wry, dry, surprisingly spry gambol through Noel Coward territory. [The Shallow Limes] Vicious lyrical bomb from Murdoch, full of f-words. Sounds like a fist-fight between Fred Frith and Frank Field in a Fife fishmongers. On a Friday. Flippin' 'eck. [Nice Day For A 1982 Associates LP] The obvious airplay hit. SM has a shower, and then phones his brother up. Within the hour, he'll smash another cup. There's a Beefheart feel to the percussion, some of which is played by chimps. Or *should* be. [Woman's Ream] 14 minutes of loose-leaf goodness. Soaked in strings, saturated with brass, drenched in woodwind and positively waterlogged by a 200-strong choir. There's some line about "Put your faith in Glaxo". I really don't know what this one's about, but I feel more spiritually centered for hearing it. A4? A1! [The Family III] Throwaway glam-stomper about fly-on-the-wall docs. Isobel sings this at gunpoint. Nice flanging. [There's Too Much L'oeuf] Breakfast complaints from Mad Dog. Doesn't really get going until Richard peels the felt off his sticks, and really punishes some skins. Lots of ad-libbed shuffling about at the end. Mike x. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: pop?
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

So Belle & Sebastian are going to shed their indie image and go "pop" huh? Ummm ... Belle & Sebastian have ALWAYS been a pop band. But does this mean they're going to start doing .... (gasp) Interviews? Photo shoots? I don't buy it. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm really not trying to sound snobbish here) B&S are just to clever for the pop charts. Note the current crop of chart heroes ... Britney, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys, Bille etc. I just can't see songs featuring Mark Twain, Dogs on Wheels, Thrush and Catholicism really making much of a dent. To quote Robert Forster "... too good for the bloody charts". Look at all the great, intelligent pop bands who only skimmed the nether regions of the charts .... The Smiths and The Go-Betweens in particular. There's no deny that they were both great pop .... but fat lot of good it did them. Much as I'd like to see B&S as world straddling chart-busters (that way they might tour down in the arse-end of the South pacific and I'll be able to see them) I just can't see it happening. Best of luck all the same ..... (and look out Steps ....) Lawrence Mikkelsen http://www.akn.quik.co.nz/mikelsen/aboutme +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: they don't like it up 'em (nme / ATPs football - tenuous B&S content)
by Jim Taylor 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

feel like a born again virgin emailing to the list from a new account... would encourage those with an interest in the fact that the sinister massive kicked the nme's arse football stylee back at all tomorrows parties, to check out this weeks NME, and the BANGING ON column. ooooh they didn't like losing to us did they...... well done Sean on putting them right as to who Slot Jockey *really* were.... as reliable in media manipulations as in defence that man. (please forgive my not having time to type out the column - maybe some kind soul might get the chance??? i did try and find it on the website and could proably have typed it in in the amount of time that took :( on the whole ATPs thing, hello to all, sorry to all i was too miserable/lazy/crap to make the effort to talk to, and just to say how great it was to hang out with new & old friends. Despite constantly and rather over-confidently worrying how many games we'd have to play (and how many bands i'd miss) OVER TWO DAYS if we went the whole way, i hadn't really expected us to out do last years sterling performance. i regard ali's post (12/04/00) as definitve archive for the weekend's on pitch activities. And so i have to say a massive R'spec to (my boys, my boys) Sean, Rich, Rozzer, Rory, Trousers, Ali, Vince & the amlost deadly finnisher Murdoch (& i 'spose martin-did i miss something-robinson). It was an honour to play behind you(!), and a pleasure as it meant again, nobody noticed that i'm not actaully a goalie. which is nice. where were you mr. casserole? alas i cannot join pic-nic activities 20/5...... it should be as i'm off to wembley to see my beloved villa take on the west london foreign legion, in their first fa cup final since 1957 (yawn, sorry i know) but i am alas leaving the country, rather frustratingly at 2.45 THAT saturday afternoon, and so shall miss the evenings events also. i do trust you'll all have lots of fizzy pop, cake & fun. and end up in the pub as usual. i'm sending an email to the eNeMa[E]..... no real politics indeed. ok love to y'all.... anyone going to Yo La Tengo london, so i don't have to skulk about on my own???? cheers jim PS does anybody have any team photos - before and after final, & team/support photos that can be attached to the sinsiter home????? i have a not-all-the-team polaroid that i'll get scanned in by about november. promise. PPS The delightful plastic bucket trophy sits resplendent with polariod attached on top of our telly. i think the poetry parrot should be sent my way to collect it and pass it on to addorn some of our star player's mantelpieces. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: need help!!
by Allen 27 Apr '00

27 Apr '00

Sorry for this, but it's a list abuse. But I need some help. Yeah, I haven't posted to the list in ages, but I've been, er, busy. Yeah, that's it. Anyway, I need some help 'cause I'm moving to Toronto in about a week. And guess what, I don't have a place to live yet! Haha. Ah, life is fun and exciting, no? So if anybody can give me any help in finding an apartment, please mail me. I'm expecting to probably stay in a hotel for a few days while I'm looking for a place. And the even more wonderful thing is I will get to Toronto late Friday afternoon and then start work Monday morning. Hahahah. So if ya got a tip on an apartment that's gonna be available or whatever, email me. Or if you know of a good place to stay while I'm looking for a place, mail me too. Anywho, I found out too that the attire is "business casual" so I'm gonna have to run to the Gap and buy some boring clothes. But I am looking forward to moving to Toronto. Oh yeah, I'm from Edmonton (boohoo, the Oilers our out of the playoffs) so this is pretty much the biggest move in my life. If anyone has some moving stories to tell me, that would be cool too. :) And I am scared of moving too since I don't know a single soul there and I'm so far from home. If I wanna go home, I'd have to hop on a plane. I've never lived that far away before! Ooh, I'm listening to some bossa nova now which I would never have listened to (well, probably not) unless I had heard B&S's bossa nova-esque "Ease Your Feet..." Doncha love it when one thing you like leads to another thing you instantly like as well? See, I figured out a way to make this an on-topic post! This is getting long and boring, so I'll stop now. there. Allen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Rubbing the impossible to burst
by Mark Casarotto 26 Apr '00

26 Apr '00

Seems a good time to break my recent silence on sinister - I'm craving some TOAST, but this is more important. Or is it? I'm writing because this thing just sent from cheapster advertising a Q & A session with the Glasgae twee massive (see below) has annoyed me, and I can't quite put my finger on why. It seems like a crass and nasty publicity stunt, not an event organised for the people who actually like the band - shouldn't we be able to buy tickets like normal people? It screams of New Jeepster style Control tactics - the only thing in it for the band that I can see is this "event" taking the place of the endless interviews they're no doubt being pressured to do. But really, imagine it. A couple of hundred Kids, who are either too shy to talk to their idols or don't really give a toss, plus a dozen or so journos, eager for nothing more than a throwaway soundbite or just gagging to have a go. And just imagine how uncomfortable the band will feel - frail fey fuckers they may not be in reality, but we're not talking willing spotlight-sniffers here. The whole deal reeks of Bad Things to me. Please tell me I'm wrong, but urgh, it's not making me feel comfortable. I've written an email to David K and Neil R, but I'm not going to send it - I can't explain well enough why I find it distasteful. I wouldn't mind some answers, though, so Neil, if you can allay my fears, please do! I'll still be trying to get tickets, mind. Maybe someone, ahem, close to the band could try and wangle a few for a Sinister delegation... "Belle and Sebastian are to host a Question & Answer evening for media and fans, on 3rd May, 2000 in London. All members of the band will be in attendance. The evening will be split into two parts - Questions and Answers, followed by a Party, with Richard and Chris DJ'ing. For the chance to win a ticket for the event, listen in to Radio One's Evening Session on Thursday 27th April, from 8 - 10pm." Mark x ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com www.bobthebuilder.org ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: please put them in number form... (thank you)
by Sam Walton 26 Apr '00

26 Apr '00

Hi. Me again. If you could send your votes in in number form, it would make everything a helluva lot easier. If you don't have the numbers available, please email me at samwaltonyeah(a)hotmail.com. Cheers. I have a feeling this is going to be quite a task. I've already had 13 votes, and there are two definite leaders already... Love, Sam.x P.S. Does the sinister village bookies want to put any odds on any choons? I'll advise them if they want... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Stephen fiffles
by stephen hewitt 26 Apr '00

26 Apr '00

Ah, the sweet days of summer approach and a young man's mind turns to thoughts of fields of mud and music played through 100 foot speaker stacks. Yes, my little kiddywinks, now that Camber is well and truly over with it's time to think aboot proper festys with tents and hippies and things. Following my *complete* failure to meet any other sinisterines at Glastonbury last year I thought it might be nice to have a little sub-list for those of us thinking of going, so we can have a picnic in the stone circle (errrr, maybe...) or at least meet up for a beer (YAY). Anyway, if you'd like to come and play (remember it's only EIGHT weeks away), go to: http://www.egroups.com/group/siniglasto and sign up. I doubt it'll be the world's busiest list somehow :) And yes, I know e-groups are the devil's own spawn, but, well, the list's only going to be around for a few weeks... In news nearer to home, myself and Mrs CarsmileSteve shall be in LUN-DING Saturday, Sunday and Monday, for our Wedding Anniversary (yes it was already a year ago, doesn't time fly) fun and frolics, mainly consisting of Baxendale in Notting Hill on Sat evening at the mo. If anyone fancies a pint, drop me a line (on thursday pls, got friday off) or I'll prolly be in #sinister (or #teenslut). xoxo CarsmileSteve PS just to clear a few things up, my name is steve hewitt. Carsmile was the name of my now sadly defunct band, and i thought it would be cunning to use it as my internet name in a kind of subliminal advertising kind of way, and following the demise of the band it just kind of stuck. Mrs CarsmileSteve's real name is Meg Hewitt, she wasn't in the band. Does that make sense now? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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