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Sinister: picnic question
by JD Stephens 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

Hello all-- just a quick question--is there a picnic on for NYC in September? I thought I had heard rumblings about it mid-August, but nothing since. If anyone can either confirm or deny this rumor, please email me about it. Thanks. I appreciate any help on this. The first person to come up with useful info will win my undying gratitude and a beaker of beverage of your choosing. Schatz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: And this time there's no getting away from me...
by Stephen Hewitt 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

Yes, three weeks later I return safely ensconced in my new job, new house etc, having finally picked up the courage to read e-mails during working hours and caught up with last weeks backlog due to not being near a pooter. where to start? the picnic sounded like fun, even with all the rain. I was at READING where it also rained and where it SMELLED VERY BADLY, like a gig in a bin lorry, which neither glasto nor camber sands does. Apart from that the bands were good especially the delgadoes, who went up dramatically in my estimation, beck, cos he's funny, brassy, cos they funky (and cos "muff" spencer was dressed as wonder woman), prml scrm, cos i hadn't seen them before and cos mani *is* king of the bassists, pulp, cos i heart jarvis, and of course, the wonderful ms lauren laverne, as much as i enjoy watching her on telly on planet pop and stuff, it's not quite the same as seeing her wielding her "axe" live on stage, although it is worth pointing out that pete, nee johnny x, has been eating all the pies and growing silly facial hair. I also said happy sinibirfday to glampam(my), who was the only sinisterine i saw on sunday...unfortunately I was not wearing red underwear as i do not own any, and neither does mrs carsmile glad to see various ox-types sticking their collective heads above the parapets. I now find out that i live within 50 yards of at least two of them, and that mrs carsmile is working with a third, what with it being a small world after all. Whatever happened to Peter Miller moving here? We could start a commune or something, prolly. ...mixing pop and politics, he asked me what the use is? I offered him embarrassment and the usual excuses... Still waiting for the GRATE leap forward, meself, Billy Bragg to be the new queen mother, that's what i say. So I may well see some lun-ding types on Saturday and Ox types on Sunday. It's going to be a sini-tastic weekend, innit xoxo CarsmileSteve +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The stoned and the sinister
by David Strange Strange 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

Hope everybody's well and dandy, i'm fine & enjoying the last of the summers sunshine. Just thought i'd write a reply to some prevoius posts, hopefully they won't bore you too much; Jenowl's hardkids; i think Jen rocks for standing up to the hard kids, GRRRRRR Go Jen, Go jen. Maybe a career in womens restling beckons she could wera her fairy wings as a costume, but they may get broken which would cause national outcry., well in Sinister land anyway. Enjoying the politics debate raging, i'm not very intelligent when it comes to matters political but this Nadir guy sounds quite cool for a politician. I'm with Luara llew for the marajuina party, it'd be qyuite entertaining watching stoned people wondering the streets, we could have sweepstakes at how many times they say man and dude in the same sentance imagine the fun we could have, but on a downside the whole snak industry would have to boost production 10 fold. I'm upset i missed Vel's record breaking picnic it sounds super, and i missed casorotto vinnie jones style tackling most upsetting. Bumped into the lovely Miss Scarlet in a swanky record store in good ol' London town a few weeks back, what a girl. I hope at Reading she avoided the Slipknott fans, actually she's got way too much style for slipknott and whilst they were doing disguisting things on stage, the Scarlet one was proberly drinking Gin and tonic and sunnung herself. I would tell you about my trip o jersey but frankly it would bore you too tears, anyone interseted in any jersey information can mail me off-site and i'll be happy to oblige. Smell you later, Dave (Dafyd) 'You can take the boy out of Wales, but you can't take Wales out of the boy' Amen brother. _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Isobel and Sarah
by dougal shaw 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

That IS a revelation to me, that Sarah sings on Waiting for the Moon to Rise and not Isobel (confusion can result from sparse sleeve notes). Hmmn. Two things arise from this. Firstly, I had been picturing (and almost falling in love with) the wrong girl when listening to that song. Sarah has shot up in my estimation, having previously just been a background figure. Secondly, I am glad, as I can go back to disliking Isobel Campbell intensely, safe in the knowledge that my disposition towards her is based on musical grounds in the first instance. But I suppose cussing her is old hat. I made another mix-up regarding Isobel, which involved her lyrics. At first I thought she was singing 'I would rather be fat AND be confused' rather than 'I would rather be fat than be confused'. I prefer the lyric I misheard. If she would rather be fat and confused (which she may well be in real life, though she strikes me as a rather sussed person) this suggests an arch, more B and S take on the world. The latter, actual lyric seems more like a straight-forward mantra against eating disorders. I suppose that's life affirming though. dougal *all the purists are tourists* _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: blue afternoon
by Guilherme Barrella 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

hi sinister, i don't know if you all remember but i have a band called blue afternoon. anyway, i just uploaded a new song to my mp3.com page called 'i want you'. yes, it's an elvis costello cover. the file is kind of big (because the song also is) but i think it's worth it. http://www.mp3.com/blueafternoon i think that's all folks. ah, i forgot the basic stuff. fell free to send comments and spread the word. and if you need more details, think of tindersticks, leonard cohen, lou reed, smog, low and there you go. oh, on a side note: i just made some amazon.uk shopping and bought to myself 'ink polaroids' and 'little ink movies' by stuart david. really cool stuff. and they're oh so tiny. i feel like a kid with new toys. gui -- ------------------------------------------------- this is my empire, welcome ------------------------------------------------- for sad songs, go to Blue Afternoon http://www.mp3.com/blueafternoon ------------------------------------------------- e-zine em português, 4 hearts in a can http://www.4hearts.cjb.net ------------------------------------------------- for indie pop, go to Winnie Cooper http://www.winniecooper.cjb.net http://www.mp3.com/winniecooper http://winniecooper.zzn.com http://www.winniegroupie.cjb.net ------------------------------------------------- for brazilian indie, go to Slag Records http://slag.sekure.org ------------------------------------------------- for compilations, go to 1,2,3 Indiezinhos Records http://www.indiezinhos.cjb.net ------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Masses Againest the Belle
by Toby Chan 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

my friends, my co-workers, my family and my "General": I am sick after a triple expresso. My company ve a expresso machine. fvi, i am not working at a cafe. Finally, i bought "Louder than the Bomb". Thx all the reply of my question! I think it is the right choice!!! What's wrong with Isobell? (I am listening WIRE btw). Do u Like The Gentle Wave? I have no special comment of Belle's voice. But pls don't forget she's not only sing. apart from playing music, she also star on my "support the Clydeside Hunt Saboteurs" orange tee. I think the Tweeness is in the lyrics. Like the Punk-ness and interesting thing ares in the "Manic Street Preacher"'s lyrics. I think they re stupid, even the Generation Terrorist era or the greatest "Holy Bible" pieces. They are just quoting the cult. maybe they are just like me, bullshiting bout Foucalut(maybe i dunno how do i spell it also) and his "foolmen's boat" at my interviews of University's Media course. But they are funny. Richey is interesting. Playing "Suicide is Painless" is cool. I thought that it is their song. But it is the theme of "M*A*S*H* and it is written by the director's son who are not famous as a composer. Sweet and Tender Hooligan Toby C Island East, Hong Kong +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: What would it take to wipe that smile off of your face?
by Marty GGGGG 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

Big Al chirruped.... 'And in The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. Now let's not beat about the proverbial here, this was, still is and ever will be one of the single most perfect incarnations of The Pop Record ever to have graced that strange, contradictory decade known as the 1980s.And in The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. ...and I have to agree with the sentiments. 'Rattlesnakes' was a classic pop record, with intelligent, thought provoking, literate and slightly smart-arsey lyrics. Sound familiar? The music was steeped in guitar oriented Americana, country, bluesy, with strains of harmonica and accordion thrown in for good measure. This was a consistent evocation of America as a backdrop for Lloyd's dramas of Uni life and (imagined?) international characters. For me, the overall vibe is as redolent of Glasgow as B&S music, possibly something to do with Glasgow (and the Uni) being a melting pot / crossroads for disparate peoples. Cole himself is English and hooked up with Lawrence Donegan etc whilst studying at Glasgow QED classic, timeless pop music. I saw the video for 'Rattlesnakes' whilst waiting to watch 'Ghostbusters' back in (fuck!) 1984 at the Odeon in Renfield Street and it was great, a hand held shot out of a car window just panning along an American highway, the perfect visual complement to virtually any of the songs off of the album. The same trailer featured the vid to Bronski Beat's version of 'It Ain't Necessarily So", yet another great pop song. "Not the whole world, mate." Eh? And as for the cream buns 12m signing spree, I can only say 'knee jerk reaction'. Teamwork and leadership won the game for the hoops, not 'world class players' ** yawn **. These same qualities took a previous Celtic team to dizzying heights, and you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.... Finally, Sinsterines, for a laff, check out the following site. If you want an idea of the type of people who make life hell for the twee kids in Glasgow, make for the following site and check out the sound files....... www.mucker.co.uk Priceless! Bona fide old school ecto hugs to everyone. Marty. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: What would it take to wipe that smile off of your face?
by Marty GGGGG 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

Big Al chirruped.... 'And in The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. Now let's not beat about the proverbial here, this was, still is and ever will be one of the single most perfect incarnations of The Pop Record ever to have graced that strange, contradictory decade known as the 1980s.And in The Beginning there was 'Rattlesnakes'. ...and I have to agree with the sentiments. 'Rattlesnakes' was a classic pop record, with intelligent, thought provoking, literate and slightly smart-arsey lyrics. Sound familiar? The music was steeped in guitar oriented Americana, country, bluesy, with strains of harmonica and accordion thrown in for good measure. This was a consistent evocation of America as a backdrop for Lloyd's dramas of Uni life and (imagined?) international characters. For me, the overall vibe is as redolent of Glasgow as B&S music, possibly something to do with Glasgow (and the Uni) being a melting pot / crossroads for disparate peoples. Cole himself is English and hooked up with Lawrence Donegan etc whilst studying at Glasgow QED classic, timeless pop music. I saw the video for 'Rattlesnakes' whilst waiting to watch 'Ghostbusters' back in (fuck!) 1984 at the Odeon in Renfield Street and it was great, a hand held shot out of a car window just panning along an American highway, the perfect visual complement to virtually any of the songs off of the album. The same trailer featured the vid to Bronski Beat's version of 'It Ain't Necessarily So", yet another great pop song. "Not the whole world, mate." Eh? And as for the cream buns 12m signing spree, I can only say 'knee jerk reaction'. Teamwork and leadership won the game for the hoops, not 'world class players' ** yawn **. These same qualities took a previous Celtic team to dizzying heights, and you know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.... Finally, Sinsterines, for a laff, check out the following site. If you want an idea of the type of people who make life hell for the twee kids in Glasgow, make for the following site and check out the sound files....... www.mucker.co.uk Priceless! Bona fide old school ecto hugs to everyone. Marty. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Re: Isobel problem
by Heffalumping＠aol.com 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

Dougal wrote: "But now I have a problem. I have to confess that Waiting for the Moon to Rise is one of my very favourite songs on the new album. It's made me realise that Isobel's songs can be equally magical. " I may be mistaken, but I believe "Waiting for the Moon to Rise" is a song written and performed by Sarah Martin. I know she sings it, and plays guitar, and I am fairly certain she wrote it as well. It happens to be one of my favourites, also. Hmm, this is my second post ever and here I am being all "toldja so-ish". Sorry. Just trying to help. 'Sides I love the Gentle Waves as well. :) Susan ps. aren't you proud, i didn't mention nader once?! er..... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: isobel problem
by dougal shaw 31 Aug '00

31 Aug '00

*if my family tree went back to the dinosaurs I still wouldn't appreciate Isobel Campbell* That used to be my opinion of Isobell Campbell. But recently I've been pondering my attitude to her presence in the B and S outfit and I have realised that my attitude towards her has changed. At first, I thought when she made her appearance on TBWTAS that she was a sort of intrusion. It was fine when she appeared in 'guest capacity' in the duet parts with Stuart (like RollerCoster ride) where her counterpoint harmonies added a haunting quality to the songs - as long as she remained merely a guest on these tracks. I just skipped her other songs because they were good in any other context, but paled next to the sublimity of B and S material. But now I have a problem. I have to confess that Waiting for the Moon to Rise is one of my very favourite songs on the new album. It's made me realise that Isobel's songs can be equally magical. So what was my problem before? I think it might be (and this sounds weird to me as well) that one of the attractions of B and S's older material (bearing in mind that I am a guy) is that it is a man singing with tenderness, about tender things. It wouldn't be the same if a girl was singing those lyrics. I don't know why that would make a difference, but since the idea occurred to me, it probably reverberates some inner truth. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ August 27th Sinister Third Birthday Red Underwear Day ++++++ ++++++ ++++++ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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