August 2000 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: Tents. Floral Tents
by JENOWL22＠aol.com 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

Hewwo, Mmm, my news for today is that I went camping with some friends. Last night. So can I tell you all about it, because lots happened? I was one of the few bringing a tent, and I don't know how you work them, so it's not like I knew that I was supposed to bring tent pegs. But it turned out ok, because someone brought spares. And we made a fire, a bit away from the tents, on the other side of a barbed wire fence. So to get to it, you had to get your legs cut to ribbons. So we made a fire, and seeing as how everyone there except me was a pyromaniac, people tried to burn everything they could (including other people). And after that, alcohol was brought out and we became drunk. So then a boy called Hatham who is gay decided to not be gay any more and stick his tongue in my mouth instead. Which was icky. But then I ended up with a boy called sam, and he kept biting my mouth, and it ended up bleeding. And my tent leaked, and kept falling down, and it was all floral and bright, and PANTS. And somebody who was drunk wee-ed on it, and also jacked off on it. And I sang a lullabye for one of the boys, which got everyone in the singing mood, so we sang all sorts of stuff, really loudly. And we didn't want to get sleepy, so we all ended up taking loads of caffeine pills and getting really hyper. And after we'd lined our stomachs with caffeine pills (like what Beavis takes in Beavis and Butthead Do America, that makes him think he's Cornholio), we had a big search for a boy called richard's poo, so we could see if we could get him to eat it. Then we decided to have a barbeque thing. So I had loads of vegetarian sausages, and while they were cooking, one of the boys tried to put red hot tongs on one of the other boys nipples, so the other boy got scared and put the tongs in grass. Then someone else turned over all the food with them, and they got all muddy, so we had a food fight instead. I think someone ate raw meat too. And we burnt the field. A lot of it. Then the next morning at about 6.00am , after I'd packed my stuff away, I hiked for an hour to civilisation. And a hot bath. The other day, I bought a belle and seb, TV series t-shirt from avalanche. I love it to bits. I'll go now, shall i? Hugs, Jen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: gardens in bloom
by sophie harris 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

...i always think it's 'gardens in blue' when i hear it - i s'pose 'cause i imagine looking out of the window in half light, when flowers look all mary poppinsy - and think of gardens in blue bloom... hmmmm...... anywaysh, hello blossoms i just had a little moment i wanted to (ahem) share coming back from swimming - i went after work which was lovely and energising (eew that sounds horrid), and then got the bus back, but had the most *amazing*, really wonderful walk home in the dark - my walkman was in just the right place for lazy line pj, and i put it on, and just as it really shimmied in i realised the bass switchy thing wasn't on, and i did it, and the sound *oooooh*, and then flounced most of the way up the road 'cause noone could see me - and then in the 'maaazin spirally organ bit, i looked up at the sky and the *stars* were out, and i just felt totally exhilerated and moved... and the moon tonite (flintstones spelling) is so full and golden - is this a harvest moon? i feel if i knew this, as well as the recipe to apple butter (i *will* try it now), my life would be fuller somehow. :) (sigh) - now if i could have the moon on a stick i'd like some more b&s collaboration type things... well, i think now i'm going to unexcite myself a bit and have a cigarette to 'you made me forget my dreams', and think of blue gadens in bloom like on the way home, and yes, was it olivia who mentioned mister stru's little laughing sigh at the beginning... mmmm. tatty bye for now and supportive squeezes of hands for those expecting results, you'll be fiiiiine :) amore and breezy kisses xs ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: B & S travelogue--tautologies and oxymorons
by S. Gazzetti 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

My friend posed a riddle a few days before I hit the road. She asked me, �Which Belle & Sebastian song contains a tautology (not sure I am using that right) and which contains an oxymoron?� As it turns out, �tautology� is one of those words I have to look up every time I see it, so I did, just before setting out. It turns out that the reason I can never recall its meaning is that there are two of them. First, it can mean use of additional words with no corresponding increase in meaning (eg �widow woman�). It can also mean a logical version of something similar, as in �the candidate will either win or not.� I figured that a long road trip with every B & S disc in heavy rotation would be a perfect opportunity to solve these intriguing riddles. This post is transcribed from notes scribbled all-but-illegibly on the back of a coffee-stained car-repair receipt: �diagnose and repair as needed/right front suspension is bent�� Sorry that it runs long, but there is nominal B & S content and over a thousand miles of thinking of all of you. I drive across Montana unshod. Mile 0: ease out of Missoula (horrifically smoky due to man-made �wild� fires burning approx 250,000 acres) with Magnetic Fields and Brian Wilson as warm-up for Big Tautological Riddle Project. After getting into rhythm of the road I begin chronologically with �Tigermilk� at mile 60. Mile 62: possible tautology spotted in first song(!): �boy�s EMPTY mind�? Too easy. Must keep looking. Turn off CD at mile 70, tune in National Public Radio for world/nat�l news Mile 72: crap tuner loses NPR. Scan for other NPR signal but detect only rotten music stations. Mile 73: �Silly Love Songs� plays. Mile 75 SLS ends. Continue scanning. Mile 76 �Band on the Run� plays on DIFFERENT station. Are DJs colluding? Back to B & S. �You�re just a baby, baby girl�? But that�s merely redundancy. Mile 96: tautology at discourse level detected in �Electronic Renaissance.� �If you work for very much longer/You�ll be known as the boy who�s always working.� Maybe. But it�s weak. Am struck by irony of �my wandering days are over,� as am just 112 miles into a trip of probably several months and who knows how many miles. Center of so-called being is the space between the gearshift lever and the parking brake. Yeah, the parking brake. Also: could not �spooky witch� be considered vaguely tautological? Not satisfied with this, I continue east. Mile 122: lowering sun finally appears as pall of nauseating smoke thins slightly. Temp in car approaches melting point of lead. NPR out of Butte tunes in. Some filmmaker opines, �We tend to love our least successful children the most�� Comforting, this, as am en route to parents� for �visit� which may end only when/if ever find job. Cross Continental Divide at 6,963 feet and mile 129. Now, if dump bulk-purchased Mochaccino out window, it would eventually reach Atlantic. Also at mile 129 I don�t love anyone. Though it occurs to me that it�s been a long time since I saw my sister. Mile 145: begin composing Laura Llew poem as eastern Montana degenerates into the boring flatness I can expect for the next thousand miles. Put in IYFS. Mile 171: first real logical tautology detected as cross headwaters of the mighty Missouri to accompaniment of GMAFHID: �You could either be successful or be us.� This strikes me as a dictionary definition of a logical tautology, though I suppose it does depend a bit on the B & S dictionary def of �successful.� Mile 204: IYFS seemed really short. Mile 226: Juggling liner notes, water jug, precious discs, and atlas, realization about mileage/driving time miscalculation dawns-it will practically BE dawn when I reach the campsite I�d planned for. Mile 230: begin playing stupid mental math games, trying to calculate fuel consumption/efficiency, driving/arrival times, how long a tank lasts (five hours at 75 mph), and whether I can drive all night and find fuel in the middle of the night in the middle of North Dakota. Also where I�ll be when the B & S runs out. Counting smoky mountain ranges. Have passed through Bitterroots, Sapphires, Tobacco Roots, Absarokas, Beartooths, and air is still palpably smoky. Panic! Have left wallet in rest area at mile 52! Panic ends: wallet found underneath liner notes for LLPJ EP. Mile 252: note-taking getting harder. Curse Eisenhower for building such excellent roads and killing rail travel. How productive I could be on a train! In my rear view mirror, the sun is going down; this recalls a Pink Floyd lyric, and with it memories of the Great Big Pink Floyd is Shite/Is Not! Debate. The EPs fly past with no answers to my riddles. Am suddenly gutted at mile 257, as realize that the brilliant Laura Llew poem composed in head is forgotten forever. At mile 265 pass Lazy J motel, and think of Jane. �TRUST JESUS� graffito at mile 270 induces musing on Great Big Theological Debate of July and its polarizing effect on peculiarly deranged fanbase. Gorgeous, nearly-full moon arising in lilac murk causes me to praise putative deity. Really enjoying TBWTAS. Mile 297: cross Yellowstone River with �Is it Wicked Not to Care?� Still not a single oxymoron, though a few weak ones show up at end of �Summer Wasting�: �Summer in winter/Winter is springtime�? Not very satisfying as an answer to my riddle. My friend is much more clever than that. More stupid math games as TBWTAS ends reveal that am maintaining avg. speed of 65 mph, despite numerous stops. Prior to last year, Montana had no numerical speed limit (it was �safe and prudent at all times�). Almost run out of fuel (am notorious for this) at mile 326.Mpg=27, even with horrible roof carrier-caused turbulence whose racket almost drowns out �A Space Boy Dream.� But if the answers are buried in there, I�m not going to hear them on this stereo. At mile 346 vow to keep driving til out of Montana. Mile 348: vow not to be too type-A about this whole trip. Mile 353: Cross Yellowstone again. Can�t it make up its mind? Pop in �This is Just a Modern Rock Song� EP. Worry that my car is breathing its last, but it's just the smell of Billings. Mile 357: take wrong branch and head for Wyoming. Curses, atlas-consulting, and U-turn totally distract from combing tracks 2 & 3 on EP for oxymorons/tautologies. Mile 370: inserting FISHYCLAP nearly causes collision with young male elk. Can see dim stars for first time in two smoky weeks-am exiting smoke zone at last! �Beyond the Sunrise� is very good with fullish moon illuminating Great rolling Plains. Refrain of �Don�t Leave the Light on Baby� seems admonishment about ruining night vision by trying to read lyrics by dome light. Mile 405: am VERY sticky. Wish could fall in Clyde to wash. Mile 421: cross Bighorn River as last full-length LP ends. Was counting on B & S to get me out of Montana! Mile 436: �Legal Man� EP, and thus Belle & Sebastian, is done. Plough and Orion both plain to see; not so answers to riddles. If any of you out there are interested in helping to solve this vexing problem, let�s talk about it. I have to admit that there were plenty of songs whose lyrical nuances were obscured by roaring trucks, windy conditions, atlas-looking, wool-gathering, logistical concerns engendered by auto travel, etc. So if any of you lovely biscuit-nibblers can think of better examples of tautologies and oxymorons than those I came up with on I-90 and I-94, please at least let me know, if not the whole list. I am posting this from somewhere in Minnesota. As the night turned to day, I managed to re-compose the Laura Llew poem, which I committed to receipt, and will send in My Second Post when I get to the east coast. Now I am off to catch a ferry across Lake Michigan. Thanks to all of you for keeping me company for my first 1,200 miles! Schatz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail � Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: hmmm- i'm thinking andrei bolkonsky popular
by kmhyde＠wm.edu 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

I just had a bit of a debate with my friends, and so i'll be an obnoxious pretent and post twice in the same day... we were talking about how the fact that B&S are getting so popular (relatively) makes it seem like it's less special...and that even though we put up a concerted effort not to be elitist 'indie' kids, we still feel our collective ire rise when some 'goo goo dolls' devotee goes walking around talking about this great band they just discovered. it's frustrating to see something you've liked for so long being treated as just another thing; and then feeling guilty for feeling frustrated. i'm not making sense am i? the endorphins and adrenaline from the debate are probably still having their way with my synapses. okay- what i really wanted to ask was this- 1) do you think they are getting REALLY popular, or am i just paranoid and primed to see it. 2) does anyone else feel like it's "your" music....[and i mean this in both the most figurative and childish sense.] and do you get sort of jealous when other people listen? maybe it's just the combination of qualudes and alcohol talking. i dunno. I'm sure I'll hear it from the rest of you all "it's good that the band is getting success, and you shouldn't be so avaristic- you moron" supporters in the morning. votre petit singe dans le fenestre avec le coq, kevin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Richard Brautigan, other books; Ladyfest
by Andrea Kittenmouse 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

hello all, i noticed that at least two people have mentioned the writer Richard Brautigan in the last week or so in Sinister town. he is one of my absolute favorites, especially his collection of short stories, Revenge of the Lawn. has anyone read this? what are your favorite stories from it? one of mine from that book is called "Trick or Treating Down to the Sea in Ships" or something like that. i also just read a memoir that one of his friends wrote called "Downstream from Trout Fishing in America"...it was pretty enlightening, especially since not much is written about Richard Brautigan, so I didn't know much about it. so did anyone in Sinister attend Ladyfest in Olympia, Washington? i went for the weekend and saw the Need, Mary Timony, and Glass Candy and the Shattered Theater. i also went to a letterpress workshop which was really interesting. i'd like to learn that. there was another book that i read recently that reminded me of Belle and Sebastian...it's a british novel from the 1980's called Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit, or something like that. the bbc made a movie of it too, which i rented from the video store. both very interesting. anyone read it/seen the movie? what did you think? anyway, got to get back to work. yer pal, andrea p.s. my radio show, kittenmouse radio, doesn't have a website yet, but it does have a message board. i think you can get it if you type kittenmouse radio into the search engine, google.com, or you can find it by going to insidetheweb.com and typing in kittenmouse. there are playlists from my show there and you can talk about music or make requests or whatever. anyway, please post something. :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: aawww, did you miss me?
by the original pixidustlady 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

hello folks, read this earlier: >PIXIDUST >ain't she been stirring up some insurrections? i'm >not complaining, i love it! but then she disappears. >Is she an NME mole, sent in to destroy the fragile >network of harmonious discontent? or did they >underestimate our powers? ha! how i wish i did have a job at the NME. but i wouldn't be their mole, i'd be yours. working night and day to bring steven wells to his knees, and enlighten all 'the kids' with wondrous tales of B&S dreams and picnics and cardies and midnight biscuit-dunking. however, with my limited vocabulary - um, what's an insurrection? - i fear i will never crack into journalism, with the possible exception of mad ranting letters that will only get printed so that the editor can rubbish them....sigh. nevermind, i'll get them all with my novel the reason i disappeared is utterly mundane, but soul-destroying at the same time. i'm working all summer to get some money together for uni you see. i have a full time job at the local council canteen. my boss is insane and intolerable. he shouts at me and i cry. i work 5, sometimes 6, days a week, including saturdays. i stand all day. i get abused by mean customers all day. i slice and butter 200 bread rolls EVERY morning. i get burnt by steam, hot water and sparking fat. the heat in the kitchen is so unbearable at times that i think i might faint. i have been working for 7 weeks now, and in that time i have lost half a stone. i was underweight before, but now it's just ridiculous and i feel really rundown and tired all the time because of it. this hasn't exactly helped my mental health either. i haven't seen my boyfriend for 9 weeks. i'm living at home again with my parents. my life is exactly the same as it was this time last year and i feel like i've regressed totally, gone nowhere, done nothing. it's so demoralising. i've lost all my confidence and become very stressed and unable to cope. i used to take anti-depressants, but i was really pleased when i sorted myself out enough to come off them. now i just feel hopeless again, like i need to go back on medication. it's really awful. so, you see, i've not really had the energy or the mental capability to write interesting posts, as this one testifies (sorry if you're bored). i'm just lost in a monotonous drone of getting up, going to work, coming home, eating, watching tv, sleeping. it's all i've done for about a month now. UNTIL LAST SATURDAY NIGHT THAT IS !!!!!!!!! 12th august is a big day round these parts. all the farmers get together to show off their cows and sheep and give eachother prizes for the meanest looking bull, or the fluffiest lamb or whatever. other farmers come from all over scotland to marvel at the wondrous cattle. there are even dancing tractors - has to be seen to be believed- and when the prize-giving is finished, usually by noon cos all the farmers have been up since 5am, everybody retires to the beer tent to start drinking. the drinking continues for about 12 hours, before everyone staggers to a different tent to drunkenly attempt a dance. hahaha. this dance is the high-point of the Orkney social calendar. EVERYBODY, and i really mean that, cos there aren't that many people here, goes to this dance to get wasted and fight with other farmers. it is mind-boggling and sickening at the same time. but this year me and my friends boycotted. we went to the beach and had a party there. we took magic mushrooms and tripped out on the sand, next to the seas, by a great roaring fire. i had a mad mad trip, remembering all these things from my childhood, stuff totally buried in my brain. it was really weird. my brain was going so fast. so now i feel better for having broken the monotony. and this post is really really long. love karen xxxxx p.s. - it's pixidustlady, not just pixidust. ta p.p.s. - congrats to amy jackson for your exam results, well done that girl!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian.....Stony?
by Andy Flynn 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

Get stoned and shag to B&S!! Its ace!! Its how its best appreciated in my opinion. Definitely Stoney as opposed to Moshy music! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: NYC Supper Club
by Sebstian95＠aol.com 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

Howdy pardners, this is Matt, the American from Mobile, Alabama (the a**hole of the world). NYC CD: Miles, I have the New York City double CD from the Supper Club. The quality isn't very good unless you listen to it on headphones. It's just really low, so you'll have to turn the volume up. The shows (It's two shows from consecutive nights) are really good though. Isobel is sick, but she still sings and someone does a very funky cartman impression and sings the "Kyle's Mom is a B****" if anyone knows what that is. Just thought I'd comment on that. Well, me and my sister are off to out honeymoon now. Have fun ya'll. Note: I am not really going to marry my sister. -Matt P.S. I edited the language just in case someone gets offended. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: NYC Supper Club
by Sebstian95＠aol.com 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

Howdy pardners, this is Matt, the American from Mobile, Alabama (the a**hole of the world). NYC CD: Miles, I have the New York City double CD from the Supper Club. The quality isn't very good unless you listen to it on headphones. It's just really low, so you'll have to turn the volume up. The shows (It's two shows from consecutive nights) are really good though. Isobel is sick, but she still sings and someone does a very funky cartman impression and sings the "Kyle's Mom is a B****" if anyone knows what that is. Just thought I'd comment on that. Well, me and my sister are off to out honeymoon now. Have fun ya'll. Note: I am not really going to marry my sister. -Matt P.S. I edited the language just in case someone gets offended. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: go tell it on the mountain
by Youn J. Noh 14 Aug '00

14 Aug '00

I just heard Poem of the River. I'm stunned. I didn't realize he could sing that way after the coldness of the albums before it. I see how the comparison to Lloyd Cole in terms of singing style, which others have made, too, is justified, but the difference is clear. (They must have had different ambitions.) I didn't understand most of the lyrics; it's just the sound of his voice. I ordered the Clientele ep but they accidentally sent the 7" (I want you) more than ever instead. Before, I thought CDs had good points in terms of packaging - booklets that favor more writing, lyrics, anecdotes; the size actually makes simple sleeves look better - but this 7" is so pretty and there's a warmth that doesn't come through when the sleeve is encased in a plastic jewel case. 7-inches are the perfect size. And there's also something to be said for mystique. At first I was wary of the hype surrounding the Clientele, but I listened to stuff on their web site, and the praise seems well-deserved. They do sound different from B & S, less idiosyncratic. I'm glad B & S is that way though. Here is something in that vein (not for whimsy but for strength of purpose) from Norman Blake: "What I like about Belle and Sebastian is they like to do things differently," he enthuses. "I've known Stuart Murdoch, who is the main songwriter in the group, although they all sort of write, for years. Stuart was into a band called the Pastels - the seminal Glasgow band throughout the '80s and '90s - and basically was a member of their fan club, which was called Pastelism, about five years ago. The fan club did a fanzine and had conventions in Glasgow every two or three months, which basically were a big party. "The first place I met Stuart was at one of these Pastels conventions. And he would play songs - really quirky songs - on this small keyboard thing." Here's a link to a potential Stuart Murdoch look-alike (I was only looking because I thought the model in the Prada ads might be in it; you know the one they have in the series, holding a glass of water, caught in compromising situations, etc., but still that's an idle pursuit): http://www.firstview.com/MENspring2000/PRADA/P018.html When I downloaded Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner, the end was cut off. Was it that way for others, as well? I tried to download it again, but the link no longer works. Of course, I'm grateful to be able to listen to it at all. I've been reading stories by Flannery O'Connor lately. She has the same cast of characters, but tells a different story each time. That's why I didn't think that Stuart David's criticism that Stuart Murdoch was writing the same songs over and over had much merit to it. Billy Liar *is* good. I started Billy Liar on the Moon but returned it to the library after a couple of chapters: at that age, it becomes less interesting, or maybe it's a different story. Listening to a really good record (CD) is like having a super bout of #1 thinking. Yours, Youn PS Sorry if this was boring. You know how when you're bored you're boring? Does the singer on the 4th song of Comet Gain's Tigertown Pictures say something like this? I asked my former roommate to translate for me, but he's not a native speaker, and he wasn't really clear. Thanks. (So actually I guess I would appreciate Poem of the River more if my life were more exciting right now ... I know it's there though ... maybe I bored myself writing this ... On the back of Poem of the River, it says 'I will be the first person in history to die of boredom'; yet the songs are anything but boring.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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