November 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: RE:PEAT: Avant-Goth and the apologisms of non-intellectuals
by Joe Vester 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

OK, since my last post, I have got not inconsiderable amounts of flak for my point of view on Goths. First, it should be made clear that I do not hate goths at all, I have just found that all the ones I have met, with one notable exception have been really irritating. They can look the way they want, act the way want but like being a B&S fan (according to some): "It's kinda like being gay... you can see where they're coming from and respect them for it, but you wouldn't want to do it yourself"... (courtesy of Mathew Willson) No, that's not my problem with Goths, I rather like them being there to liven up the look of the world. My problems with them are: 1-They are very, very pretentious, pretentious people are annoying 2-They are incapable of laughing at themselves, anyone who is like this is a pain. I know this is similar to pretentiousness, but I felt it was worse. 3-They are cliquey. Cliquey people are just nasty 4-They are obsessed by their image. Taking care over it is one thing, being vain is another. 5-Goths, for all you may account it to youth, are really fake people to talk to. They're affected and will just go along with what all the other goths say so as to fit in. OK, so those points don't apply to all goths by any means, I understand that. Neither are they exclusive to goths. There maybe even be more nice goths other than the one I have met, OK, but the fact is, most Goths are really annoying. I should say that all this come from having met quite a lot of Goths in my time. I live in middle-class london, which among its main exports lists: Disaffected Youth Goths Wiggas Indiekids Twats Lawyers Money And I once went a-wandering in Whitby. Which was scary, but I did sit at the same table as some goths in a fish and chip shop. Apparently, Whitby is the Goth capital of Europe. Finally, I reckon that becoming a Goth is often an attempt a pulling. Which Justifies it somewhat. One another note: Hannah Brown declared me a Headteacher. Does this mean I get to order Ken around, being as he is a maths teacher? I have another sinister crush. I think I may have the beginnings of a crush on my alter-ego Ms. Pancake. Also, by the way, I have got a mysterious 40kb message from "Lee and Lisa" in reply to my last message. And I got a similar one from Archel the day before. Is there a virus going round or sommat? I also have a ridiculous celebrity crush on Thora Birch. I also have a crush on my friend Dan's sister Sam(antha), who I have never met but who I talk to on the phone occaisionally. She's 17, I have noooooo chance. !VIVA RACHELS! Rachel "Joe Vester" Pancake P.S. Alright, this wasn't much of a proper post, more a long-winded apology/explanation, and I'm sorry, I might do an apology/explanation for this post too. P.P.S.I may well go to the Obscured Camera gig. I don't own anything by them, but I did hear one song on the radio, and it was v.cool. P.P.P.S.I forgot to have pancakes as I was in a rush, I will have them tomorrow. Maybe I should buy some Maple Syrup. P.P.P.P.S. I like having all these new Brazilian types on the list. P.P.P.P.P.S. I sometimes think my rachel alter ego must confuse newbies. Am I called Rachel, or Joe? hard one... P.P.P.P.P.P.S. (last one, I promise) I know that they're really called Camera Obscura. My "obscura (geddit?) indie knowledge" is just about satisfactory" +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister: (no subject)
by Histrianic＠aol.com 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

.and then i forgot to mention that the show is between the hours of 7 and 8 PM, EST. I feel so dumb. I'll never post again as long as I live. cheers h +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister: i forgot to say this
by Histrianic＠aol.com 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

two things, actually. I'm going to read the Belle Lettres and play the songs accordingly in a couple of weeks, on my radio show. If anyone wants copies of the tape, send word! and.. My radio show is tonight. I'm sure none of you sinister types will be able to listen to it because we only broadcast over the general southern new hampshire/northern massachusetts area, but it would still be nice of you to call in and say hello. the number is 603 777 4406. (i haven't got a playlist ready because i fell asleep last night instead of making one. whoops..) i still love you all! cheers h xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: buy more stuff
by Kirstin Schreiber 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

i too am not looking forward to chirstmas at all. not only is it a big capitalist load of nonsense, but this year is going to be especially anoyying in the states. everyone is going to be so "rah, rah, god bless america" cuz we're fighting this racist pointless hypocritical war. now i know why my mother always got so stressed out during the holidays. she's expected to cook and send cards and go to functions and cook some more. yeah, christmas is a rough time for atheists. and i am dying for new b&s sruff, but ithink i have evrything there is. sorry for all the negativity. it is the end of the semester and i am quite stressed. i'm too poor to byt much alchohol, but that's ok becasue the paxil has reduced my tolerance to that of an eight year old. kirstin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i'm waking up to a virus
by Archel Playforth 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

well, it's been a thrilling week struggling with my uninvited guest, the sneaky worm_badtrans.b virus. i think i've killed it now, but it was touch and go. i'm sure it's too late now anyway, but don't open any attachments from me. meanwhile, i am being stalked by a ginger cat called tolkien. it paces up and down the street waiting for my front door to open and then shoots inside. on saturday it was found outside our back door too. and when coming back from the shop this morning it ambushed me from under a car and jumped up on what would have been my lap, had i not been vertical. i don't mind all this, because i've have secretly hankered after my own cat since leaving home and giving up two darling, though insane, moggies. however, tolkien obviously has a home of his (or possibly her) own, albeit with a family who have little sense of an appropriate name for a cat. maybe it is in fact the reincarnation of jrr tolkien, and wants to come in and view my dvd version of his masterpiece. which, incidentally, everyone should see before the live action film comes out, because it's just fantastic. the animation is truly fucked up. hard to believe ralph bakshi went on to work on alvin and the chipmunks. they're resurfacing the road outside my house at the moment. i don't think i can stand another second of pneumatic drills. but i may not have to, as my room is in the basement and it really sounds like several tons of pavement are going to fall on me at any minute. on that note, i'll say goodbye for now. comments on IWUTU to follow later. luv archel xxx *************************************** archel(a)iname.com For the best in new writing on the web, visit www.buzzwords.org.uk Contact us on buzzwords(a)bigfoot.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: sinister: a rubber yellow duckie
by Histrianic＠aol.com 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

I just scooted over to my school bookstore to do a bit of Christmas shopping. I bought a Gorey calendar for the year 2002, a CD (even though I got 8 new ones over the weekend.. i'm an impulse shopper), a monkey and a rubber duckie for my friend. the lady didn't charge me for the Gorey calendar, which I'm assuming was fourteen dollars and ninety five cents. I just noticed that, so now I'm debating going back to the store and paying for it. And I'll sit here debating it until I go off to class. My teacher gave me another absence slip for a class I missed because I was sick, and now I'm going to be on restrictions again. (FYI: I have to check into my dorm every night at eight o'clock for three weeks, i.e. no going out on weekends.) I was at the infirmiry and THEY won't excuse me because I was there at 8:10 AM, not 8:05 and apparently there's a five-minute rule. I am so incredibly pissed. Especially since a girl in my class comes to class 15 minutes late EVERY SINGLE DAY and SHE never gets a slip. But I'm kind of sort of excited for Christmas. I'm actually REALLY excited for break, but break=time with parents. And time with parents always comes out in shopping sprees with my mother. I found a picture of the back of scarf guy's head on the internet, while I was looking at pictures from the Fall show I went to. It was rather strange. My guitar teacher recommended I pay a visit to a store called Bull Moose Records in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. He claims he's seen Belle and Sebastian records there. I want to go shopping on amazon.com. But I'll wait and hold out until spring break, when I visit New York again. Just two more months. Today a friend from school invited me to come to her house in Florida during spring break as well. My parents will be glad; they kicked me out of the house a long time ago due to my messiness and tendency to break things. :-) i'm off, to.. do things. cheers h xoxo +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: it's been a slow education
by Robyn Fadden 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

hello sinister, i lurv the new ep. i like that it's a little bonkers. and that 'i love my car' has that beatles' mucking about with stuff and laughing quality to it. it makes me say 'wacky', which is a fun word to say. and then it makes me sing 'durp durp durp durp durp durp durp durp... etc.' (which is me sounding like a horn section.) 'i'm waking up to us' is great too, but for some reason at first i thought stuart was doing a geddy lee impersonation, but then i really listened and he wasn't. did a brazilian on this list recently say they loved rush? wow! i have never even given rush a chance.* and a simple 'yes' to 'marx and engels'. riot girl indeed. yeah, so emoticons used to bother me too. quite a lot. but i realized that sometimes you just really need to use them. like a semicolon. overuse/misuse will not, however, be tolerated. and sometimes, to paraphrase comicshop guy from the simpsons, there is no emoticon for what i am feeling. and yaay! for andrew churchman who recommended destroyer's album 'city of daughters'. destroyer is rad. dan bejar is awesome. and i'm not just saying that because they're from vancouver :) also good is the new pornographers. at first you will freak out and be scared, and think 'why does neko case sound like geddy lee?' and then you will realize she doesn't and you will love the pop-rocktasticness of it all. when Ken Chu said "Earlier I bought a sausage sandwich with extra butter, that I personally put on, and then I ate it." he reminded me of hal incandenza from infinite jest. i think it was the 'personally'. i love hal. which reminds me, i bought and ate some turkey kolbassa the other day (i have been vegetarian for a while, but suddenly *needed* meat) and it was really good. then last night i had a dream that that its place behind the deli counter was empty - no more sausage! and i was sad. i thought about turning it into a lucid dream ala 'waking life', but then realized i wasn't really going to learn much from it. 'waking life' is really really good. richard said: 'rhyl, north wales'. and i then started saying 'rhyl' over and over again because it feels so weird. there is a sign on the skytrain platforms here, warning of electric shock or something, that says 'stzo'. it makes me think of polish (czesc ola!). but i don't think it means anything. but i like to say it a lot. maybe it's the sound you would make if you touched the electric bits - 'stzo!' sizzle. if you are bored and especially if you are singing 'i love my car', i suggest http://www.screentalk.org/knightrider.htm oh, yes. turbo-boost, kit! well, at least check out the photo montage of classic knight rider scenes - a thing of beauty. oh oh oh i'm lightning, robyn *though rush fans will go on about the genius of geddy lee, that he is actually and in fact a certified genius in the iq department, and that you should really *listen* to rush at least once in your life and realize that sounding like geddy lee isn't a bad thing at all. erm. again, i have not given rush a chance; it just has not come about. ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden(a)yahoo.com Vancouver, BC __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: helpless...
by angela _ 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

hey kids... i must say it makes me feel better to know i am not the only one who feels the pressure to be "jolly".... and man you know i really want to. i catch my self getting all teary eyed just watching "its a wonderful life " for the 500th time. but i guess if you think about it...there is a sort of bitter sweetness of the season. beto put it very well...wishing we had said the things that were really on minds to the person(s) but never quite getting around to it. and my birthday is next week...i'm gonna be 25. i plan on scheduling a midlife crisis that day... i know as soon as my eyes pop open it will finally set in ....i will be a quarter of a century old!!!!.....jeez! i cant think of anything more horrid! well that's not true i can think of a lot of more horrid things..but there's just no other way to express my deep disliking of the situation.....i plan to comfort myself in some form of vice. no b&s content....except i really wish they would come and visit the southern states....besides atlanta... anyway i hope for all of us suffering with the christmass blahs that some one you have a tremndously huge crush on comes up to you and plants a fabulously orgasmic kiss on you, and makes you as giddy as a school girl! -angela _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I hate christmas
by Ana Ribeiro 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

I agree with every single word Daniela said about X-mas. "I hate Christmas. I hate this time when people are obligated to get along with others they don't like, or they don't even know the names. I consider Christmas time hypocrit and I hate the end of the year." You know, X-mas for me is when grandpas and grandmas (both sides) arrives at MY place (I'm 18, so I still live with my parents, arght.... but my father's parents are reeally lovely. Too bad I can't say the same about mom's parents...). That's when I get to lend my car and drive people here and there - so they can visit the important places (I live at Brazil's capital), that's when I have to pretend I'm all happy because my aunts are here, and pretend I agree with every single comment they make about my clothes (black all the time, I sometimes do look a little goth, sorry you folks who said you hate them.... even though I'm not goth. I just like to wear black clothes and make-up)... pretend I like to be asked a hundreds of times about the boyfriend I don't have... pretend to enjoy being with the aunts who go tell dad I arrived home at 2 am (that's my coming-back-home-hour), "how does he let his little daughter (I'm the oldest) arrive that LATE?" oh gosh, I hate that. I really hate pretending. The Universities' strike is over, so I must start having all my classes (I was just having 3 out of 7) next week, and that means no vacations for Ana for the next year, and maybe the other one... that sucks. But a nice thing happened today, maybe that's why I'm writing... there aren't many B&S fans here (Brasília). I was at college, waiting for my class to start, and I was walking and singing Le Pastie de la Bourgeoise and this cuuute guy stopped me and said "A Belle and Sebastian fan? I must be dreaming..." and we started talking and that made me happy for the rest of the day (when I started writing that x-mas thing I wasn't, of course, but I remembered this and now I'm happy again!) All right, that's it, I guess. Take care Ana ps: so now there are 3 brazilians on this list who hate the x-mas... and for the very same reason... and thx beto for remembering me how ridiculous it is to put a pinus tree with fake snow on it and guys dressed in red like it was -10°C out there... when it's actually almost 30°C.... "You don't get something for nothing You can't have freedom for free You won't get wise with the sleep still in your eyes No matter what your dreams might be" (Rush, Anthem) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: marks on ankles
by Kenneth P Y Chu 29 Nov '01

29 Nov '01

Dear sinister, On a work function last night we went to this vodka bar, it was great - except that all they sold there was vodka, nothing else, not even coke, and *gasp* no red bull! I asked them "why don't you sell mixers too?" the reply I got was "well this is a vodka bar innit." Then I woke up. I woke up on time for a change today. I put on "Waking up to us" to wake me up, aren't I clever. When I woke up I could hear Sturan going "Wig. in. up. du. uzzzz" (that's the accent), and I was like "i'm waking up to waking up to us, how clever". Then I got downstairs and didn't eat breakfast (I woke up on time, but not EARLY), and ran into my car and drove to work, on my way to work "I love my car" came on the stereo and I was like "aww, I love I love my car, and I love my car too" Then I got to work and I was eating my sausage sandwich, and i dropped a bit of butter onto my trousers and left a stain near my ankle, so I hummed "and he just wanted trousers with marks on ankles for a while" and then I woke up. Beto asked: >And Tommy doesn't know what they it is >Doesn't know who Jesus was or what praying is >How can he be saved >From the eternal grave?!?" > >Does anybody know that? Yes, By drinking Red Bull! Christmas is like the BBC - you make it what it is. Gina alluded that I've been intimating with the whole of York Sinister Massive. I wish. Pressies and Red Bulls Ken P.S.: Pressies are pressies because presents is too hard to spell - it took me three goes just then! (Pressants, Pressents, Prescents arrgh) The Queen lost the British Empire cos of that - in a letter in responce to giving back all the colonies, she couldn't spell "You can shove it" and spelt "You can have it" instead. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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