February 2001 - Sinister

Sinister: if a rose looked like a chihuahua, would it smell as sweet?
by Jennifer Gray 16 Feb '01

16 Feb '01

Hi hi. Since everyone on the list is already named Jenny (with the exception of everyone who isn't), I shall henceforth be known as Janitoria. I have recently taken up the mop and broom again, listening to B+S on my walkman (< B+S content) and cursing under my breath. My legs are so sore that I've been taking tiny shuffling steps. But I couldn't swing the plastic bottle packing gig anymore and managed to get myself fired (for the first time in my life! My pristine record has been blemished!. Immediately, the guy who was my boss except for the last month I was there started coming on to me (we are both married). He asked me to meet him at the carwash at 8 in the morning for a little bit of wink, wink,nudge, nudge. But I didn't do it. If I had an affair, I'd want it to be in classy surroundings so I could pretend to be a literary tragedy. No one writes songs or books about people who have hurried sex at carwashes. (<someone else really said that part--I figured it was okay if I stole it since it was said about me). My comment on Valentine's Day is a bit belated, but here it is: I can't believe that more people don't heed the warning hidden in the initials V.D. That's all. -Janitoria- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: b&s in the US
by Megan Conniff 16 Feb '01

16 Feb '01

I've heard the same thing about b&s being in the states! Okay, let me tell my story. My (boy)friend lives in Manchester and his flatmate Simon works at the same place that Chris Geddes brother works at (I THINK his name is Andy, not positive. I can ask if anyone really NEEDS to know for whatever reason). Chris was recently touring with Teenage Fanclub in Japan, as I'm sure many of you know. Chris was then supposed to go to Manchester and DJ at a club for/with his brother. BUT he had to cancel because when he got back from Japan he was informed by the other members of B&S that they were going to the States to work on the movie soundtrack. Anyway, that's my little piece of gossip. MUST go write my art history paper! It's been two weeks of procrastination for me, it's due tomorrow, it MUST be done. Oh, since I mentioned that I had the studio version of Lonliness, I've had MASSIVE amounts of downloads. 200-300 a day! So thanks guys, you make me feel loved! I also have the B&S version of Turn, Turn, Turn, which I find quite amusing! My dad was telling me the other day that when he was a teenager living in London in the '60's he met the Byrds coming out of a bookshop! It was before they were famous. Of course, he was telling me this delightful little anecdote in the same breath as telling me that shortly after I was born he met the guy from Twisted Sister in the Frankfurt military PX. Apparantly he was in full Twisted Sister gear, complete with classic 80's hair band 'do & platforms! Has anyone else noticed a enormous amount of Italian people on Napster? And they're so friendly! They always IM me and think I'm a boy. The only thing that really strikes me as odd is that they all seem to be 32 year old men that work for computer companies. ALL of them. I've spoken to at least 8. One offered to buy me a ticket to go see him Florence. I've got to learn to stop being so friendly to people I meet on Napster, you never know where it will get you! (*wink wink* Mike!) All right, that's it for Post #4 from me, love, megan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: where the selfishly sick and self-absorbed are welcome
by Kevin Hyde 16 Feb '01

16 Feb '01

Hello, I haven't written to the list since September I think. Anyway- the Kentucky guy's post caught my eye, so I thought I would write a little bit about that... umm. yeah. I agree. there are people around where I go to school who call themselves indie, but they're really just punk kids who pretend. I think Belle and Sebastian fans (the ones who REALLY like them- you know who you are) are a sub-species of indie kids. definitely. I mean, claiming you're twee and all is fine, but there's more to it than just liking Magnetic Fields and reading Anais Nin, or what have you. (and I'm not trying to bash anyone here- just pointing out how people are in my area...maybe not so wherever you're from) rightio. back to Harry Potter. I think these books should be classified as quasi-narcotics....I'm well addicted to them. and the thought that there won't be another book until December makes me weep at night. no, really. Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: childrens books
by evan beusoleil 16 Feb '01

16 Feb '01

i know it's probably not so cool to write another post so soon, but the subject is kids books, so i can't resist! i work at borders, so i spend all day looking at books instead of supervizing, which is what i'm supposed to do, and i love kids books. particularly the "picture books" section. if anyone hasn't looked at them yet, check out the work of eric carle, it's beautiful. also, for a very entertaining, well drawn book, check out - ooooh, i can never spell his name - szieska? he illustrated "the true story of the 3 little pigs" and "the stinky cheese man" among others, so just go to the "s's" and look for those books. they are fantastic! and if you can find it, Jill Thompson's Scary Godmother, the original hardcover (it's a comic now) is adorable and the best halloween book. and then there's roald dahl, the genius... my father got married a second time, and he and his french wife had a little girl, colette, five years ago. i thought it would be a real drag, but now that i know her, she's the best! and i shower books on her every chance i get! in french and english, cause she's so clever she can read em both! cause god knows i'll never have one of my own... okay, that's it, really it is... -evan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: On Loving the Isobel Girl
by colin thornton 16 Feb '01

16 Feb '01

I have (in the last few years) slowly developed an infatuation with an old friend-girl, who in her own way is the perfect match of Isobel Campbell (or at least the Isobel that I have in my head). Her name is Agnes, and I haven't seen her in three years. I had the biggest crush on her while she was here, but I had a five year girlfriend at the time. Agnes moved to Utah and I occasionally forgot about her. My girlfriend and I are recently split, which is a shame because she had become the quintessence of twee during the time that I was dating her. So, my thoughts have turned to Agnes...and they stay there. And while Agnes and I are in contact, e-mailing poems and sweet messages, I'm uncertain what I should do, being that I live in Kentucky and she lives in Utah. I graduate this semester, and I'm falling in love with her at a rapid speed, as if I were making up for lost time. She seems to be appreciative and interested in my love (but is smarter than me and more realistic about flights of long-distance romantic fancy). I don't really know what to do. I thought that it might be therapy to write the list. I have a Lazy Line Painter Jane complex to boot because I'm attracted to girls that make wierd little scrapbooks like the one in the video. The only problem is that these girls don't exist here (or they are hiding). But Agnes is Lazy Line Painter Jane to me. Identity crisis: when a song is manifested onto an adored friend. Oh well... It is rather hard to find an indie girl in a non-indie world. I think everyone on the list can relate because we all seem to be born too late (or too soon, I can't decide). People are too-cool-for-the-school now and whether we're talking about townies or frat boys, nobody cares to understand the indie lifestyle, the sad and lonely world of being a Belle and Sebastian fan. As much as this list brings me happiness by uniting the scattered sensitive childlike creatures of the world, it also makes me sad that you all aren't here to hang out with me and get to know me. Maybe I'll meet more interesting people when I move to Chicago (to study at Second City) or to Salt Lake City, Utah (out of love and no other reason) but I'm close to miserable right now...and that pretty much sucks. Love, Colin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: perfect coffee
by evan beusoleil 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

i am writing this so that all may enjoy what i am enjoying at this moment, a most perfect cup of coffee from my own home. for years i would never make coffee for myself, for fear it would taste like poo, and would only drink coffee at work, which has always been either restaurants or megalithic bookstores with overpriced cafes. now, thanks to my sweetie and his gifts of valentines, as well as some advice from my friend the coffee guru, i have learnt the secret alchemy of coffee from home. first start with whole bean coffee. it doesn't have to be organic, but it wouldn't hurt. measure out about a half cup of beans (these instructions are for making four cups, so if you want more, just do the math) and grind for about 20 seconds if your using a coffee maker. ten for a percolator. i don't know what to do with a french press. next put the grinds in the coffee maker immediately and make it. what you don't drink right away, store in a hi-vacuum thermos or air pot. if you leave it out it'll go nasty. always store beans in an air tight container and never freeze your beans. also, don't grind a bunch in advance, only grind what you want to use right away. and that's it! as for content, well, a lot of you are students, and students drink coffee because they stay up all night studying. especially students in glasgow. speaking of glasgow, why is it so cool? all the best bands are there, and even some of the best comic book writers/artists are from there. it's not even such a big town. even groundskeeper willie and shari bobbins are from glasgow! but i digress. happy late valentine's day to all and to all a good day. -evan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The drought is crippled by the rain.
by M. Timothy Meskers 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

July 2000, Select, pg 24 Stuart Braithwaite (of Mogwai) speaks of NWA. Bear with it, it's a bit of a lengthy/vulgar quote. "The imminent NWA reunion is well worth looking out for. As in most reunions, the sheer front of reconciliation is often the highlight for the impartial observer. Watching Glen Matlock play 'Anarchy in the UK' alongside Rotten, Cook, and Jones, while knowing they took turns wanking into his baguette was hilarious enough, but Ice Cube sharing a stage with a band who augmented their second cd with a threat to, "cut off his hair and f--k him with a broomstick" takes forgiveness to a new plateau. Their new track, 'Chin Check' on the Next Friday original soundtrack was tremendous. Barring Belle & Sebastian, they're the world's most dangerous band." ---- Just a brief quote from an old Select that most of you have probably heard, but really tickled my fancy. All the talk of them in the studio has gotten my very excited as has some mention of Weezer among the Sinisterines. Sixteen long days from now til the show that I miraculously got tickets to. I hear the GetUp Kids and Ozma are opening up for them, has anyone heard them, and if so, are they any good? I'm dying to hear some of Weezer's new stuff, this year's Christmas EP has whetted my appetite for something fresh. Happy belated Valentine's, by the way. Did any of you do anything exciting? I went to a local thrift shop with my friend Nate and bought an old mod wig. It may have been meant for women, but I wore it anyways. I wore that around for awhile and pretended to be a character named Rick. He also bought a wig and pretended to be a character named Dutch. We went to a coffeeshop and drank non-alcoholic wine that the couples had been drinking. I ran into some friends who tried to talk to me as Timothy, but I politely informed them that my name was actually Rick and they I was frequently confused with the local celebrity of similar appearance. Then I took off my wig and told them I was only kidding. My mom told me not to buy any more wigs from thrift shops because I'll probably get lice or something. I guess that wasn't a terribly stimuating story but at the time I found it hilarious, wearing a wig and all. Thanks to everyone who sent out VD related posts, the story about kidnapping Cupid was particularly droll and the story about roughing up that old man had my chuckling as well. Really made an otherwise bleak (save for the wig adventure) day bearable. Hope you're all well and had nice Valentine's Days with lots of humorous and rewarding endeavors. Sincerely, Timothy xoxo p.s. The new issue of Revolver's got a swell article on The (International) Noise Conspiracy early on and another on Weezer a bit closer to the middle. There's also a great article on The Pixies, which, as I recall from my nursery, there may have been one or two fans on the list? Despiete the initial embarassment that stems from purchasing a magazine with the singer of Korn on the front, it really turned out fine, I recommend it... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: financial panther ey? get him sheba
by jonathan skinner 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

Dear sinisterines/sinisterettes Hope you are all doing well in whatever mundane thing it is that you all do best (to guys leaning up against the truck:do you guys ever work you saying we're not working no not at all, mind if i join you (various stretching noises) Right I suppose this email should have some purpose. I mean it isnt like I just sat down here to write this because I didnt have anything else better to do with my time while waiting for the phone line so I can connect and send this to you nice people (ahem) Ok purposehow about cartoon women. Is it just me or are cartoon women getting more and more good looking, wont it just confuse our nations youngI mean look at Amy Wong on Futurama or the new oxy pad girl showing here or miss piggy (dad whats a Muppet? Well its not quite a mop and its not quite a puppet but man alive) (perhaps not because she is the Muppet equivalent to Vanessa Feltz pre dumping and man hating) We had to make do with the likes of ugly real women making things with sticky back plastic. Ok perhaps that is not a good topic..have I just embarrassed my self in front of hundreds of peopleno because you dont know me thank goodness (Im only a big disappointment in real life anyway) Anyone watching Adrian mole on telly at the moment..how dire can it go , the on good thing about it is the funny twist that the Adrian Mole column has taken in the weekend section of the guardian. (to explain to our American friends Adrian mole is fictitious character from a lower class Leicestershire background who has a personal diary that we (well some of us) read.quite amusing in parts) Is it just me or is everyone else aching to hear what some (or even all) of b+s (look; content) are doing stateside This was a relatively long post on my part and hopefully quite boring for you all to read Anywho I am quite bored now and I expect and hope you all are as well Godspeed all Jonathan Visit http://www.oceanfree.net to get your free e-mail account and use our unique Irish Internet directory +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: We don't need no piece of paper from the City Hall
by P F 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

Golly, but Joni Mitchell can make me sad. So much, perhaps, is impacted in those grooves. THERE'S A LEMON IN THE THE LOCKER Mooro talked about being moved. And his last title, I mean, 'subject heading', came close to moving *me*. BURNING THE LETTERS Some character talked about Sylvia Plath, and I knew what he meant, pretty much, though Alan Bennett didn't care for her, you know - no, not even for the diaries, *especially* not for the diaries. He told us so in the LRB. In *his* diary. How will, no, how do, AB's diaries measure up to SP's? They measure pretty OK, but he shouldn't overrate himself. I don't like his clipped and abbreviated style, for one thing. Write 'prose', man. The cover price is �2.75. ORTONARY WORLD I wondered for a while whether the character who talked about footy and the like (sorry, I forget his name; he was eloquent enough) was yet another of Welthorpe's guises. But would Welthorpe return under a guise? No, no, she'd come as herself. I hear tell that Kevan Cooke has not been wearing guises either. Cross him off the list. CARAMEL IN THE Llaura Llew returned, more than once. She talked about being inside eating (or was it drinking?) chocolate while it snowed outside. The stray conjunction made me think, Llaura, in your cardigan and with your 'roacking horse' and Irn-Bru, you ought to hear that song "Chocolate Snow". You have? Oh. BELCHERTOWN LIBRARY LlLl talked also of children's fiction in the USA. I remember that. It smelled nice. Even at the time, I thought it smelled nice. Heaven dares think what I'd dare think now. IT'S DANGEROUS TO HAVE GENE HACKMAN DREAMS I read a story tonight, while a bunch of Scousers were scoring impressive goals: it was "Train" by Joy Williams (1972). It features these lines: " Outside, the sky was lightening. Daylight was just beginning to flourish on the city of Jacksonville. It fell without prejudice on the slaughterhouses, Dairy Queens and courthouses, on the car lots, sabal palms and a billboard advertisement for pies. " I thought that was pretty good first time round, maybe cos it looks like a Lloyd Cole prototype. Typing it out, mind you, a catch a a surprisingly strong scent of 'The Dead'. Is it true, I wonder, that the train is the best way to travel the US, for the skies belong to the rich and the Greyhounds to the poor, but the rails to the broad bands and waves of eccentrics, ironies and contingencies? Maybe it's for answers to questions of that ilk that we must go to The American Short Story, or The English Pub. BEYOND METACULTURE Thanks to those who responded re. Trilling. My questions, by the way, were not meant to be marked 'urgent'. I don't think that either 'the self' or 'culture' are in the casualty ward, any more than they were yesterday or will be tomorrow. I was merely giving inadequate voice, out of interest, to a dead man's thinking on these matters. He died of cancer, by the way, and smoked ceaselessly. Dan Wakefield, his former student, tells us in NEW YORK IN THE 50S (Houghton Mifflin Company, 1992) that he waved those ceaseless cigarettes like wands; and that the circles under Trilling's eyes were the deepest and blackest he'd ever seen, as though the indices of intellectual brawls in the back-alleys of the ideal. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: There's Lemon Ice In The Frost
by David Moore 15 Feb '01

15 Feb '01

Hi All, In Another Place Jordi, who's been chatting to Neil, says Belle and Sebastian are currently recording in the US. Presumably for the soundtrack (?) Congratulation to all the Sillustrators - I envy people with so much talent. I especially liked the one of Honey scaring a certain someone away with his double heh sized hard-on disguised as a tail. How is the Rectorial campaign going, & when will the results be announced? Honey, which URL do we have to keep hitting to ensure a victory? :) A few mentions recently of Twin Peaks, which I loved. For added weirdness I recommend watching the antics of Leland/Bob with your 11 or 12 year old daughter. Then find the copy of Laura Palmer's Secret Diary she's reading, have a flip through to see what its about and then figure out what to do next. Also people have been fantasising about snoggong Mark Casarotto, who I seem to remember kissing last Saturday. Biondino, what precisely are we keeping that date in our diaries free for? Joe, please come back to earth. Your last post was so far over my head all I could see was its contrail. That last Arab Strap single is growing on me: my earlier judgement was too hasty. Bullseye is funny. The best thing I have heard of theirs recently however is that amazingly powerful cover of Darlene Love's Christmas (Baby Please Don't Go) that was repeated on the Evening Session. I was moved. Love, David Moore Chelmsford, UK +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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