February 2001 - Sinister

egRe: Sinister: megan ceasetocare from virginia (me)
by Megan Conniff 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Yeah, I'm from Virginia, I didn't realise anyone else on the list was! My parents live in (and I guess that means I'm from) Springfield, Virginia, which is about 20 minutes away from DC. But right now I'm going to college in southern virginia, in Harrisonburg. My friend from Richmond told me all about Planet Nine! Oh, and there's a Planet Nine in Harrisonburg (of all places! we got electricity here only recently), but according to my friend, it's NOTHING like the Planet Nine in Richmond. All it sells is used country CD's and whatever 'big' band came to the university the previous year, foo fighters, vertical horizon, and so on. Thanks for the tip though! I'll try to make it down to Richmond with my friend and get my hands on some of those Felt CD's. love, megan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me
by Mike K 19 Feb '01

19 Feb '01

Yes, I really did, and now i am confused and completely unsure about how tomorrow will be. The 'somebody' is a girl i've been really into the last month (as just about no-one will remember from my last post) and we went out drinking friday night with several friends and i haven't had such a fantastic conversation in months. she's very cute and swedish. i even told her she was beautiful in swedish, her best friend taught me, but for all i know i told her that i have a fetish for knee-high socks. and i don't. well, not usually, anyway. Steve C. said: > My band Callow has FINALLY posted Mp3s onto our website, who's > addy is at the > bottom. I listened to "Lessons in Shuteye" and it's gorgeous, good luck mate. I thought for a while Stuart M was making a Smiths reference in "Le Pastie" when he says "heartless swines", for some reason i thought that was what Morissey sung in The Headmaster Ritual, it is, however, "spineless swines", which is nice alliteration but not quite heartless. Talk of new singles has me at the edge my seat and falling out of bed, which hurts considerably more when there's an open jewel case at the bottom. Tigermilk, no less. Love Mike K ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: mein scheisse
by Walkn10＠aol.com 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

Hi everyone, My band Callow has FINALLY posted Mp3s onto our website, who's addy is at the bottom. One of the songs, "Lessons in Shut-eye" is going to be on a compliation this summer, compiled by our very own Steve Genge, that also features the Lucksmiths and Clock Strikes Thirteen (among others). Check it out if you get a chance and let me know what you're thinking/feeling/doing... Later Steve C. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* "Which Paul?" "BLAH!" visit http://callowkids.tripod.com or your crush will hate you forever Call WRNR 103.1 at (410) 269-1031 and request Callow's "Lessons in Shut-eye" or you will have bad luck...forever or something. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: re: sinister: Sylvia, etc
by Andrea Kittenmouse 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

hiya, How's it going? I just woke up way too early on a sunday morning and I've got a cold. Ugh. It feels like my sinuses are being filleted by dull knives. And worse yet, someone told me to snort salt water yesterday to make it better. Of course I didn't do it! That just isn't right. Anyway, regarding Sylvia Plath and this discussion...I've only got this to say: read Virginia Woolf "A Room of One's Own". Things in general start to make sense. Parts are a bit outdated, but if you are an artist or writer or whatever, I think it's a valuable work. And (argh!) I hope Belle and Sebastian don't tour the US in the fall. That WOULD be the only time I'm in Scotland. Hot chocolate is yummy, Andrea _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: monopoly?
by Histrianic＠aol.com 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

At my off-the-face-of-the-earth boarding school, we have an annual Jazz Brunch. They decorate our usually exteremly bleak and ugly dining hall with cheesy tableclothes and shiny balloons in an attempt to make it look nice. They have regular food, not the demorphed form of malnutrition they normally serve. They have ice sculptures and caterers. And they have a live jazz band playing. It's actually quite nice. It is at this jazz fest that I ran into my long time crush, a senior that I stalk and love. He was playing Monopoly with his selected crowd of friends. He plays the banjo, and is the biggest slacker in the world after myself. He had pink hair, which he bleached out. So now he's got long grungy white hair. I think it's the sexiest thing in the world. Belle and Sebastian. A lot of their songs make me think about a lot of things. I think there's more of a message they're trying to convey to their listeners in B&S songs than let's say, Dave Matthews Band. Now, I love Dave Matthews Band beyond anything else. I think they've got ingenious songs and melodies. I love the fiddle part from "Crush". I think B&S depend equally on their lyrics and their melodies to attract their listeners, whereas bands like DMB use a lot more of melody. But I still love Dave Matthews' voice. Back to my beloved, stalked senior. He has the same birthday as my first boyfriend, only three years ahead. He's technically only 2 years older than me, but he's three grades ahead of me. So yes, I'm a freshman stalking a senior. I think I have a tendency to go for the unavailable or the unattainable. When I was in seventh grade, I was after a junior. And half my crushes turn out to be gay. I need therapy. I have a show to put on in about an hour. I should go to call. It was two minutes ago. Oh well. Ta-ta for now. Lots of love and a monopoly board, Hye Min +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: bang bang you're dead!
by hanna wahlstr�m 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

wowowowowooh, a tour! I've been bouncing aroud giggling all day. but with my luck they'll just play a few gigs in england, or they'll come to finland and play at a club the day before my eighteenth birthday or something similar. I was sick on valentine's day so I spent the entire day watching tv, eating chocolate cake my mum had baked. but I got a valentine's day card from my friend alexander (featuring a sasuage on wheels, hairy male legs, carrots and humpty dumpty - lovely), and a call from a boy in school who wanted to meet me but i havn't returned the call yet, because I'm afraid his PARENTS will answer the phone. I hate talking to parents on the phone. they're scary. especially when they come to the "you know what?!? I know your grandfather!!! TEHEHEHEHE" bit. buurhh.. scary. why do i always think i have lots and lots to write about, but when i start writing i don't have anything to say? wellwell, am late for meeting a friend, so I'll have to go now, byebye! /Hanna p.s. mixtapes. i need mixtapes, who want's to trade with me? :) _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: how can you write in the fourth person?
by Kevin Hyde 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

I always wondered what it would be like to write in the fourth person....could you combine first person and third person? or maybe a second person narrative squared? I don't think either of those would count though, that's the thing.... I've been interviewing people around my school, asking them about the happiest moments of their lives (as long as the instances are not super personal) so that I can put them in a short story. It's intriguing to note that quite a few people focus only on very very recent memories- which is, I guess, just further evidence for the primacy effect. I had long been under the impression that many people had childhood memories that were far better in terms of intensity and duration. (now I sound like Bentham) many guys cited past girlfriends- the girls were much more diverse. huh. anyway- I just got the new Low album, and it is as good as everyone says it is. I had the chance to book them to play at my school with Labradford, but the scheduling office which handles those sorts of things said I would've had to pay nine times what the budget was, just to reserve the proper gig space. very disappointing. ***reason for posting*** I was wondering if anyone would be willing to send me phrases. Yes, i did type that right. just sentences that really don't have to do with anything- especially phrases that make you feel good- that have positive connotations to you- the more non-sequitur-ish, the better. I'm doing this as part of the research for my philosophy thesis: that certain words and even letters seem intrinsically 'good', and others are 'bad'. (that's not all the thesis- it's more to do with ethical language, but I didn't want to bore/out-pretentious anyone) thanks. have a good Sunday- Kevin +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Can you hear this / Or should I / Turn it up?
by P F 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

I tell you what. Look up John Hughes in Thomson's Biographical Dictionary Of Film. It's not *outstanding*, no, it's not even that good - but DT is a hero to one or two of us for his ability to be so regularly, briefly, casually interesting, maybe right, about things he doesn't even care about. I have just heard the Go-Betweens compared to Dire Straits. THE OCEAN Julie - never mind Sylvia, Who Is Julie? Her posts remind me of the first line of Strindberg's, um, Seminal, Live play of, oh, 1888: - Miss Julie's crazy tonight! She asked why the DDR wasn't featuring in her life! It's finished, Julie. Gone with history's Southerly winds. Kaput, as they say in Monaco. JUST LIKE THE SNOW Youn said >> She's probably working on a story called "Chocolate Snow". Oh. So is Ally96, in his spare time at the golf club. No, not really. He just plays golf. With a golf club. Can you believe that I added those 'greater than' signs myself? THREE STEP >>> I don't see the point of comparing the Magnetic Fields to Belle and Sebastian. Me either, as we say in Stockwell. >>> Maybe I would if I read Alistair's piece, but I don't want to see it. Nor do I. Especially not after reading that silly, ungracious demolition of it the other week. >>> Before, he wrote a great piece on driving and listening to music and how the kind of music he brought for a road trip in the US was all wrong: it wasn't BIG enough, or something like that. OK, point taken. But have you read Edna Welthorpe's piece on how THE REAL RAMONA finally made sense on the freeways? *That*'s a good piece on music and driving. You should post it to the list, Edna. Edna? I'VE BEEN LONELY >>> Seymour Glass is my top literary crush. (Even in books they're taken!) 'Taken'? Taken by 'the Reaper', you mean? HUEFFER SAYS THAT (2) JAMES BELAUDS BALZAC (p.308) >>> Who is the person who said something like the response to a work of art should be a work of art? Many have said things like this. Some of them have been 'artists'. >>> What were his exact words? Here's Ezra Pound in sunny June 1922: The best criticism of any work, to my mind the only criticism of any work of art that is of permanent or even moderately durable value, comes from the creative writer or artist who does the next job; and *not*, not ever from the young gentlemen who make generalities about the creator. Laforgue's Salom� is the real criticism of Salammbo; Joyce and perhaps Henry James are critics of Flaubert. (Literary Essays of Ezra Pound, ed. T.S. Eliot; London: Faber, 1960, p.406.) AUSTIN ALLEGRO >>> And the correspondence between words and things in the world is imperfect. That depends on what kind of thing you think words are, and what kind of work you think they do, and who (human beings vs god, for instance) put them to that work. In a sense my view on this is: there is no extra-linguistic way of knowing about the shortcomings of words in 'corresponding' to things; so to talk about imperfect correspondence may be a wrong turn. Believe it or not, I once tried to stick something on this issue on the 'internet'. But the correspondence between my intentions and the effects of the electronic world was most imperfect. >>> It would be useful to talk about something on its own terms, but what are these terms? I think that's a relevant question. 'Conversation' is a helpful image again: a dialogue between the terms that we take an object to provide, and the terms we (unavoidably) bring to it. We can try, maybe, to keep the conversation polite and respectful, and hope that the two sets of terms will learn from each other; although in some cases (avant-garde art; political criticism) that may not be the point. Many folk could help us out here. What about Papercuts' hero Roland Barthes? COFFEE IN DONCASTER >>> And what are non-artists to do? I seem to recall that Henri Bergson once said: 'If reality could immediately reach our senses and our consciousness, if we could come into direct contact with things and with each other, probably art would be useless, or rather we should all be artists...' (Actually this is from the canonical essay 'Laughter', from around 1899.) THAT GIRL? SHE COUNTS THE HOURS >>> On the other hand, Richard Dalloway could not say those words when he gave Mrs. Dalloway flowers. Doing things with words. Did he do them with flowers, either? Words might have helped. I think that we're meant to be feel BOTH moved by what he manages, ineptly, to 'say', AND saddened by the failure quite to 'say' it. VW was, I think, interested in the imperfections and ambiguities of these matters. I seem to recall that Michael Cunningham's The Hours (1998), a book that I like perhaps even more than Mrs D itself, (unsurprisingly) replays this incident somehow or other. CRITICAL (YOU'RE SO) >>> Sometimes criticism seems top-heavy. Anthony Powell: 'Books do furnish a room'. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Cause I'm a stormtrooper
by Jason McKinnon 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

JenOwl Wrote: I broke up with Gav the boy. My main reason is that I'm going through a girls - only phase. My friend said that's what it was and it sums it up perfectly. So now cause I don't like boys just now, certain people who will remain nameless are encouraging me to wear lumberjack shirts and shave my head, and go about singing Constant Craving. Which I'm not going to do. Prickle Pince replies and doesn't mean to pick on JenOwl but: Phases. I really don't like when this term or this kind of mentality is used to describe sexuality. I happen (this is just me!) to think the best way to look at sexuality and relationships is a case-by-case basis. If you like someone, go out with them and do things people who like each other do. If you dont, then don't. Any other way of dealing with this ambisexual behavior is childish and basically ridiculous. A girl phase....indeed! You might as well say you are going through an Asian phase or an amputee phase. That being said, I do think it's kewl that you aren't turning into a KD Lang clone. So, it's obvious that you don't want conventional notions of sexuality to mold you. Then why persist in calling not liking a "girl phase" thing. Maybe you just don't like him anymore. CAVEAT: I'm just taking issue with the mentality of sexual phases not with JenOwl personally. ambidextrously yours, PP _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: tis a bit old
by some random girl 18 Feb '01

18 Feb '01

"a series of unfortunate events", a depressing children series, perfect for belle and sebastian fans. some random girl +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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