April 2001 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: I will not be silenced (or something .....)
by Lawrence Mikkelsen 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

TWO POSTS IN LESS THAN TWENTY FOUR HOURS! WHAT THE HELL IS THAT MIKKELSEN BOY ON? What indeed. I wonder why dear sweet Laura Llew still insists on referring to me as Lawrence "The Milkman" Mikkelsen. You've got to ask yourself. No further down the road re: "Jeremy In Chicago". Someone said something about The Ailser Set, but the song doesn't sound *anything* like them, plus it's a male vocalist etc. I am very confused ..... even if it isn't a B&S song, it's still fantastic. (and I appologise if the issue has been resolved ... I get the digest, and hence always read posts a day or so late) Other stuff .... PEACOCK JOHNSTON Great book .... halfway through ... it's really funny and a great story. Although I don't think it's as well written as "Nalda Said". "Nalda ...." is a work of genuis ... the actual prose is brilliant ... really simple yet evocative. I guess Peacock is good in that it is written in character really well, I just find the lack of any imagery and the bare bones descriptions a little sparse. But again, I say, great book. Hope it gets turned into a film. FOLD YOUR HANDS CHILD, YOU WALK LIKE A PEASANT It occurs to me that it's been out almost a year. (The Jeepster B&S site still talks about the "new" album - ha!) I was wondering what people think of it, now that it's had a year or so to be digest. personally, it is now my second favourite B&S album (after "Tigermilk" as BEST ALBUM EVER MADE), but also my most listened to B&S album. I listen to it at least a couple of times a week, and find it just gets better and better. It's really rich, and even though in my heart I would have liked an album full of Struan songs, I do love the "democratic" nature of the songwriting. It's one of those flawed but great masterpieces. well, thats it for now .... sleep well kids, Lawrence +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Courtesy of the unspeakable visions of the individual
by Brier Random 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

Hi Poppyseeds, Enough of you on a bagel could throw a drug test. But I'm fond of each of you ennyway. And: this post will be filled with trivia and contests (win prizes!) and links to time-wasting diversions. So read on!! With the coming of glorious springtime to Santa Barbara, I'm slinking back into my old horrible wonderful habits, and not feeling a bit of guilt for the lives it ruins. Guilt should be outlawed in this day & age. Glorious, this life, innit? My first months spent with "Fold Your Hands Child" (last spring) made me worry about our Struan and his gang. But now, isn't the popular wisdom that it's indispensable?? If you're still not among the converted, then listen to it again. And again. Until you (like me) can even listen to Beyond The Sunrise without hitting the ">>" button. You'll thank me. Really. There's no "Mayfly", but the charms & merits of "The Women's Realm" and "The Model" will wow you. Although if there's a meaning to The Model, with its cryptic inside-joke lyric, I haven't found it yet. Commercial break: I've completely re-done my homepage: www.brier.homestead.com And I'm re-reading The Great Gatsby, only because my best friend constantly refers to my new woman as "Jordan Baker", so I have to find out what the hell he means. I don't see any similarities so far; Jordan was cool and detatched, almost asleep; my betrothed has open eyes. But we've all been cheated. Vallejo starved to death, Van Gogh's ear was rejected by a prostitute, Rimbaud got an incurable case of syphilis, Beethoven went deaf, Chatterton took rat poison, Hemingway took a shotgun to his head over morning orange juice, Pascal cut his wrists in the bathtub, Burroughs shot his wife, Crane jumped into a boat propeller. What I'm trying to say, what I'M TRYING TO SAY, is that we need a postcard contest. So: the first person to identify the following lyric (title and artist, please) wins a special postcard from some far-away land (far away, that is, if you don't live anywhere near Santa Barbara). The lyric is this: "I am the ghost of this. We are the barely slighted." Please include name & mailing address. AND Brier-sized props this week to: ~ Sophie* for her excellent package of chocolate HobNobs and Jaffa Cakes and fuzzy kitty stickers ~ ListDom Lisa for teasing and tempting with steamy-windowed mini-van chronicles. Surely a Sillustration in the making... ~ Joan Of Dark (altho you NEVER post ennymore... foonky chick, the world needs you...) I went to the nude beach last weekend, for the first time this year. Now sitting down is difficult. The children called me red-butt. I've learned my lesson. Flopping around is fun, but SUNSCREEN, damnitt.... Going to Europe this summer.... Paris and Venice.... late July.... still hoping for a picnic..... anyone? Beuller? Beuller?? I still miss everything I've ever had........ Love, Brier +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "The next station is VICTORIA. Change at VICTORIA for: The VICTORIA Line..."
by MIWinship＠aol.com 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

Sini-stars, My favourite Tube line for announcements is the Circle Line. The voice sounds like a little girl who was forced to speak the names of stations and connections without fully understanding what any of it means. By far the greatest bit is when she says: "Please mind the... GA-AP between the train and the platform" like someone nudged her with a rifle during the recording. I can't believe these recordings were considered usable and that they've been used for as long as I've lived here, so in case they suddenly disappear, as of today I shall be taking my minidisc recorder on the Tube to preserve these aural artifacts for future, puzzled generations. Anyway, let's get topical: Easter A fine four days, despite having to work on saturday, whilst still drunk/very ill from Sally's excellent party the night before. I eschewed further socialising and expenditure by staying in and eating loads. And watching Flash Gordon. Thus becoming the only person in the country not to see The Aislers Set last week. Today, I bought my easter egg, as I don't receive them any more (half price at the Co-Op, Greenwich people...) Klaus Kinski Was amused by Gordon's reference* as I'm reading his autobiography at the moment. Has anyone else read it? It's amazing, like a 'Confessions..' film, but true. (*The film with Nastassja is 'Hotel New Hampshire,' not that I've seen it though) Celebrity stalkers Like Pez, I used to see Johnny/Pete X all the time in Newcastle, too. Then, I used to get followed around London by the singer from Gomez. Then it was Danny Baker. It seems to have stopped now. PJ Harvey came into my work the other day, though. Perhaps she's the latest agent they've sent... Bobby & Larry Living with Bobby the 'cockroach' and Larry the 'frog' has opened me up to the possibility that I have the ability to see things as they really are, like in They Live or The Invisibles, as neither creature resembles their alleged form, to me. Rather, they're freaky space monsters who control our will to consume and conform, in preparation for their masters inheriting the planet.... I'll, er, let you know if the situation worsens... "Who wears the blank badge...?" Mike. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: belle and sebastian picnic in hamilton, ontario??
by Karren Gill 19 Apr '01

19 Apr '01

hello all :) i know someone posted on here about there being a belle and sebastian picnic in Hamilton, Ontario but i deleted the email by accident! oops! does anyone know when this picnic is?? or is a date not set yet? i mean a b&s picnic in canada?! this is something i don't want to miss! cheers! +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: for London picnic goers only.
by Sam Walton 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

Hello all, I'd just like to throw my two-penneth into the debate about the venue for the London picnic. As you may have read, I have one leg out of action (knee ligaments thing), and I live very near Primrose Hill (and subsequently a long way from Greenwich). As a result of these two facts, it would be grate (do people still say 'grate' on Sinister?) if we could have the picnic in Primrose Hill, since transport for me at the moment is a pain in the arse. Go on... indulge an invalid... I'll bring red wine and posh crisps... Also, as someone else mentioned. It's a lot easier to get from the major London train stations to Camden than it is to get to Greenwich. Right. I've said my piece. Now decide. love S.x P.S. Is Nessa still on this list? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sand In Easter
by P F 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

Someone, somewhere, in springtime has got the foggy notion into their head that 'soda' is not known as 'pop'. What piffle. In my country we have known 'fizzy drinks' as 'pop' for year upon year, for time out of mind. (That time wasn't bad; at least, not entirely, or not necessarily.) My editor, who looks always ahead, will approve when he learns that I have finally broken my duck, cast aside my musical backwardness, and moved on into the glittery pop future. Yes, I'm getting into The Carter Family. Could the Carters' song 'Single Girl, Married Girl' have been an inspiration for Lush's 'Single Girl'? Was there any inspiration for Lush's 'Single Girl'? Le Winship talked about Victoria. I know what he means. I think I do. The geezer Miller remarked that there had been a debate on Costello, and why he is bad. I read this list more closely than you think, and I don't remember such a debate. Did PJM perhaps have it on his own, with only his pals Pedro and Gonzalez for company and meek contradiction? Anyway, EC is not bad. From where I'm standing (but I'm not) he is probably still the world's greatest songwriter; the greatest to emerge in the last 30 years, anyway. This reminds me of the tangles that one can get into when thinking about things like 'the best songwriter in pop', etc. Should such battles royales include Bacharach, McCartney, Wilson, Harrison, Jagger, Townshend, King? Where is the cut-off point that separates Great People Who Belong To The Hall Of Fame and People Who Are Still In The Running For Thoughts Like Best Songwriter In The World Today? See, I would still put EC in the latter category, though he's starting to push it. B&S fans will be glad to hear that I think he is, or was, or has been, vastly more talented than the talented geezer Murdoch, who probably agrees with me. This may all sound like rambling nonsense without point. But Painted From Memory doesn't. Give it another try. The geezer Miller punctured the silliness of the J&D title with his references to the Coulthard and King. For some reason I really enjoyed them. The references, I mean, not so much the geezers themselves. It was vintage Miller. I have sometimes thought that someone should take 2,000 words or so to explain what is good and funny about the geezer Miller: because there is something there in his sentences that none of us have ever troubled fully to pin down. And if we don't, who will? Oh, of course - the big readership that his Daisywheel publication will get him. David Thomson, who is almost as brilliant as Elvis Costello, and even older, says that there's a difficult realization that one must come to about Cary Grant: namely, that besides everything else, he was the finest and most important actor in the history of the cinema. Is that true? I like him in The Philadelphia Story, where he seems to me to have a sort of clown's or chorus's role. Alcoholism has something to do with it: Brick in Cat On A Hot Tin Roof has a similar detached quality, as I remember. Jeez, I hope he's actually called Brick. It's the drink, see. Decimates the memory. Clive Tyldesley doesn't drink. You can tell, cos of the way he talks about one memorable night 700 days ago so ceaselessly, after promising not to talk about it. Big Ron tonight: 'Giggs has got it out of his street and roared with it'. But did Ron really say that, or did we fabricate it from his half-heard mumblings? Maybe Ron is actually a sort of sonic canvas which enables his auditors to be more linguistically colourful than they'd otherwise be. E99 said that Cazza was beautiful. I don't know about that, but he did once buy me a cocktail, and I have never forgotten. It's the drink, see. Helps the memory. People talked about Iron Maiden. Nick Dastoor will be irritated to hear that I find Iron Maiden revolting and worthless. Lia and Lee, or rather one of them, said that London was really great, and that they wanted to hear more about it, etc. I say: just tell us more about Texas. I'm sure it's a darned sight more interesting. Thomson - I had forgotten - also tells me that Grace Kelly only made six pictures. Can that be right? And how many were great? No, it can't be right. Someone check. I expect Lloyd Cole knows, or failing him (but I never fail him), Joan Didion. An interview early in chickfactor#10 ended with the mysterious words 'the Hamptons'. I have never known what these meant, but have never got round to the simple expedient of asking. And now I don't need to. Channel 4 are showing a documentary called Manhattan On The Beach which is about - the Hamptons. The Hamptons are a bunch of beaches and houses, or something. Hang on, I've forgotten. I think I might need to watch that programme again. It featured a somewhat unsavoury entrepreneur from Weybridge, who still seemed to belong in Weybridge even when he was in the Hamptons. I mean no slur on Weybridge in saying that. Possibly great poets have come from Weybridge. I think it was Sam Walton - but if it was someone else, apologies - who used sinister to announce his romantic progress with the gal Agnes. I have decided to follow suit and use sinister to announce that I may have written my last song. That was two days before All Tomorrow's Parties, so it's not really news. It's the end of soda, though, if not the death of pop. Mooro - I almost forgot - is one of the few people who can quote the Foxgloves and still leave the Foxgloves wondering for a while what he's on about. But we get there in the end. As usual, Big M, you were right. He does look good, doesn't he? I mean, she. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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Sinister: Pity Poor Jeremy!
by stuart hallifax 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

hello! i'm afraid i must begin with news of a fraudster! the song off napster under the name 'jeremy in chicago' is actually 'chicago new york' by the aislers set. which is a shame cos its a nice song. someone's been having us on!! did find 'hurleys having dreams' on napster too though, is this Belle and Sebastian or Struan or what? off to see Stu D in borders tomorrow. which is nice. made sure i didn't read the report on what goes on so it'll be a nice surprise. then off to see young stuart braithwaite and co. at shepards bush. quite a stuart-themed day it seems. thought i should quickly cover some of the past few weeks: ATP was nice, why can't every pub be like that, full of indie-types and open til 5 am! i think i took advantage a bit too much on teh first night as i don't remember tortoise being on stage at all. 'jonathan and david', sounds like a biblical type song. i look forward to it, but not as much as i look forward to 'lonliness of a middle distance runner' being released at last. bye stuart H ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Like a silver ring thrown into the flood of my heart.
by John Jennings 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

Dum de dum... Moorning sinisterines... Well the belle and sebastian stuff first.... 'jeremy in chicago' is actually the aisler's set song 'chicago new york' (duh!) and is not the new single.... nice of you to tell us though.... if anyone does download the new single i hope i'll be the first to know. hehe.... also... is there a belle and sebastian song called 'An Hour'? I was assured that there was, but whenever I try to download it from my beloved Napster (lets not go into that conversation, puh-leeease) I just get that old Clientele song, which I can't remember the name of but the title starts 'an hour until' something.... n'mind.... the gullible b&s hungry people out there have been fooled again. alack. This easter holiday, as with all school holidays, has passed pretty darn quickly, and i haven't done *anything* and now i'm feeling guilty that i always waste these opportunites to change the world... bugger... aaah well... actually it hasn't gone without the occasional interesting bit. i fell out with a large group of friends by telling them i didn't like them (eeek... not a good idea people) and then by means of arguing i managed to make friends with them all... which was nice.... oooooh i love arguing.... a battle of strength, i'm always gonna lose... but a battle of wit... well i'm in with a bit of a chance normally.... and i'm quite good at those 'get the other person really worked up whilst remaining totally calm and collected' arguments as well which i normally use to my advantage.... will someone from leicester please come and see cinerama with me? if i can get tickets that is... which i'm beginning to doubt now... damn...... dum de dum i was going to say so much interesting stuff and now i've forgotten it all.... which is a little annoying. i deleted a big bunch of sinister messages from january and february that i hadn't read yesterday because my mailbox wasfull... and the guilt... ooh crikey its too much... call myself a sinister suscriber... sob. i did read all the ones from my birthday on the 22nd of january though...... and one made me smile... but i can't remember which one... and its now deleted... alack... aanyways. john. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Jeremy in Chicago
by Neil Robertson 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

Sorry! I don't know what the fuck "Jeremy in Chicago" is, but it's not B&S, and it's certainly not the new single. Stuart's away today so I can't ask him whether it's a pre-B&S thing, but I don't actually think it sounds like him singing. It might be, but I don't think it is. Sorry about the confusion with the Matador site. They're a bit premature, and although their information is close, it's not quite right. I should have details of releases and tours next week, but until then please be patient. Cheers, Neil +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Jeremy in Chicago
by Pixiepoet11＠aol.com 18 Apr '01

18 Apr '01

imagine that! my first post since my release from the nursery! i had to voice up and comment on the "jeremy in chicago" debate. oddly enough, a few years back, i had dated a boy called jeremy who really did live in chicago. queer, isn't it? what is more strange is that i was in cleveland while dating this boy! when i saw the subject, i immediately thought, wow! he has joined the list. i converted him to the best band in the world! (woo hoo) only to my chagrin, he is not on this list (well, i at least don't think so), and he has not been converted! (umph!) oh, well.... since i am now out & about, i must say that i am quite enjoying the daily activities of you fine and lovely folks. i shall try my best to keep pace! unfortunately i do not have any B&S content other than their songs simply make me giddy with sadness & joy all rolled into one. i can only imagine a kiss just the same! that is all for me.... incidentally, if there are any midwestern sinisters here (specifically cleveland), let's get together for our own summer picnic! i think that would be fantastic!!! ciao, pixie :) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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