August 2003 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: I cheated on my Catastrophe Waitress
by Ian Rivamonte 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

So, I downloaded the new B&S CD through a P2P network. I know, I know. I shouldn't be doing it but I am too damn excited to hear the new material. So far, it is excellent!! And I will be getting my copy on the first day of release. Stand out tracks are basically the ones they played live. Roy Walker (my personal favourite), Step Into My Office, and Stay Loose. Cheers, Ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: i'd love a bite of crow but my foot is in my mouth at the moment
by Christine Irene 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

i honestly can't believe all of this hoopla. my goodness. i'm quite the troublemaker it would seem. perhaps i should enumerate a bit....this may take awhile so bare with me or delete me....your choice. fundamentally: since joining sinister in 98, i have always had a slightly Utopian view of our list here. yes, we are from different cultures, different religions, different colours, we have individual likes and dislikes, passions, interests, hobbies, etc. through all of that, there has also always (seemingly) been an unspoken respect. i have been on many lists in my day and more often than not there have been instances of things like: " what do you mean you don't read chaucer? you are such a dick." i have always loved sinister because, though there may be the tongue-in cheek barb, there is no attacking. i keep my computer at work and have been on holiday. the only daily means i have of checking my email is my mobile phone....and i really hate typing on it, so i don't. as some of you may or may not know, i have been having some health issues in the past year. for awhile i talked about it, then i stopped....i didn't want to be the one always whining. on tuesday i had this "procedure" done. i had to have a pH monitor connected to my lower esophageal sphincter which required a couple of rather unpleasant things. 1) a catheter had to be put up my nose and down my throat 60 cm. 2) after that, a tube had to be put up my nose and down my throat 36 cm. 3) after that, i had to walk around all day and night with the aforementioned tube taped to my face and i had to carry my monitor around with me for a 24 hour duration. the purpose of this was to monitor the fluctuations of acid pH in my stomach over the course of an entire day whilst carrying on my daily activities. it was, without question, the most horrible thing i have ever been through. fast forward....on wednesday i got my tubes removed and was happy to be sans equipment. i was also happy that people could stop staring at me like a two headed freak. yesterday, wednesday, i got the results of the monitoring. i found out that the average person's pH is around 5.....if it goes below 4, consistently, you are considered to be in a "danger zone." i found out that my average pH at night is .9. i also found out that, as a result of that, my likelihood for getting esophageal cancer has skyrocketed. it is pretty likely that, in the next few years, i will have cancer. it is also likely that i will need a tube permanently in my throat if my condition is too far gone to be corrected. the good part of this is that a) i at least know what is going on now and can (hopefully) get proper treatment in enough time and b) it is in the confines of a research study so i don't have to pay for any of this stuff. having said all of that....i purposely went to the library yesterday to read some sinister mail, hoping to be put in my typical silly, happy sinister mood. when i read mark and idel's posts, which seemed slightly abrasive and unnecessarily condescending, i sort of flipped out. i know that miss berry doesn't care for my posts, and i can completely respect that, i just thought that someone innocently asking about genre's and twee seemed sort of a silly thing to get upset about. i know that i can't stand music classification and perhaps our idel's is the same....i just wasn't expecting a post like that....which is prolly me overreacting slightly as well. as for mark. well, i doubt i need to tell any of you that there is no love lost between he and i. i never had a problem with mark until he went out of his way to flame me onlist all of the time. having said all of that, i also realise that i over reacted and mentioned things onlist that would have best been said offlist. i apologise for involving the list and for making the fruitloop-apps' feel "in the middle." i don't think mark or i, regardless of our feelings for one another, wish to involve the list in a battle of choosing sides. i received a lot of off list mail yesterday, much of which was very supportive and said that i was right on the money and that many really liked my post from yesterday.... i think we all need to keep in mind what mrs. frapps said.....and i include myself in that. no one is liked by everyone and no one likes everyone. it is so easy to just react to email without thinking about the words you are typing....without thinking that not everyone will pick up on the intended tone.....not everyone will get the inside jokes that may be inserted...not everyone understands that your tongue was firmly planted in cheek when you said something. ah well. i guess the bottom line is that i am sorry for my email from yesterday. i'm sorry that i aided in turning sinister into the antithesis of itself for awhile. i wish you all a lovely weekend. love ~christine __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Sinister: I'm Feeling CAPITAL
by pugmunch＠juno.com 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Ah, Sinister! Hello all, from the blistering deserts of Arizona! Actually, that's an outright lie; it's only 94 right now, ironically. But nevermind that! I'm crawling out of lurkerdom to contribute to the Reporting Back Bonanza! I sided with the LA Contingent this time round, but I should've known better than to DRIVE to/in LA. Really. There was a nearly disastrous pedestrian incident just outside my hotel. YOU try making a left-hand turn while singing along to Le Pastie; it's quite distracting! Particularly on Concert Day, which indeed, it was. As the Llew would say: le sigh. The conclusion I've reached is that all pedestrians in the general LA area should wear reflective clothing; black is just a bad idea, aside from the fact that it's SO **20th June 2002**. APPARANTLY the picnic was a grand success! Sadly, I couldn't seem to find it, which is all the more tragic as I'd brought a CAKE, with SINISTER written all over it. Literally! It seems to me that no Sinister Picnic is complete without a CAKE, a la A Century of Fakers. Alas, it wasn't to be. What WAS meant to be was the Grand Ticket Exchange engineered by none other than our very own....(drum roll) Shawn and Emily! You might remember them by the esteemed title, "the dynamic duo." Consider this the official SHOUT OUT to Shawn and Emily, clearly two of the loveliest people on the continent! These clever folks, for *some* reason, seemed to take a liking to me, and helped maneuver me AND my friend Sam to an altogether MUCH CLOSER SECTION than I was originally in. I love them. I really do. Other folks have talked about the LA show already, so I won't repeat them, except to add an enthusiastic "RAWK IT," (which I'm convinced will be the next popular exclamatory statement, embraced by hipsters and young people the world round). I'd no idea that the esteemed Mr. Jackson could WAIL on the harmonica such as he did! Yes, yes, I own Storytelling, but my contention is that studio and stage are two completely separate entities; of course, I'm no musician. I've got a stringless guitar sitting in the corner of my room at the moment, and every once in a while I sit and chew my nail whilst trying to devise a plan to remedy that situation. I think that's sufficient proof. Ah, well. I'll have to stick with "professional appreciator" I suppose. Much SINI love, Shannon p.s. I almost took a page from Mr. Chu's book and titled this post "Riding on LA busses is SAD," but as his reputation seems to be on the decline, I thought I'd avoid any unintentional association. To save myself, of course. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I've got my casiotone and I am right
by Stefano [Steady-State] 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Hello My Dear Sinister Hope you are very well and fine! ---->>>>catastrophy!<<------- I might be driving in london... be careful, it might be wise staying at home. my crash accident record talks quite clear, I am disastrouse. I clearly don't love my car so much. or might be I do but she doesn't love as much. or at all. sounds like the story of my life. pretty cars make graves, especially if yu are driving atiny bit too fast and the RIGTH side on the road. ----->>>>I've got my vibrosonic and I am rigth<<------ but the neighbourood isn't. like it or not, the neigbour yell when i sing. (and they are right!) but NOW I've got the vibrosonic (sound scary) reverb and can crasch the skathe the reverb spring around the lounge I can cover their screaming laughing quite easily. I like the orange light from the tube amplifier in the evening. Think it reminds me of when we use to have the huge black and white gloomying tv. childhood childhood where are you gone? don't know, think I've not really grow up. might be it is the reaon why kids loves me. not necessarly their parents. tho. one day the Tv died. it was the football world championship and russia trashe hungary 6:0. just saw the first goal. meanwhile back in communist russia? have you ever heard of them, are lovely! ----->>> DIY electronic reinascence <<<----- spent the day in the electronic wrkshop today trying to soert out if I could still work it out how the tester function and the solderer and remeber the coulour code for resistors... the answer is no i can't... well I've finally sued an oscilloscope..... such a waste of equipement... but finally did it and all my home bult units are back and functional. guess that might be not such excting, but after a whole week swearing at the DR ohm and Mr transistor can be exciting. So if u are an electonic freak try that: for distorsion unit mxr dist+ish 2 germanium diode+ 1 led antiphase , and if you open the box have even light in it! can use it in the darkness as a torch in caseof next black out, a 9 volt battery will do. ---->>> just 2 days to go <<<---- to the gig I'm going to play. can't stop my fet itching!!! it is quite exciting. hope i won't just going forgetting all the bits once on stage. is a classic. is not twee. is rubbish. must not drink. that is key. is what i've ben saying for ages but have to support the country economy. shouldn't i? mhmhmh.... would be really great to see someone from the list on sunday.. it is at the arts cafe' near algate east tube station.. I go first, which will be, well at dinner time.. 8ish? something like that (it is bit of self promotion, I do apologise but think the other band are really really nice, and you can have agood laugh when i'm on stage... stage = scary thing to be on...) this reming=ds me of youthness again.. like at lementary schools... I've never been puyt in the choir the said I was hopeless for singig... [might be they were right, I'm hopeless for lot of things, inluding making a post that makes sense...] punk saved me! god save the queeeeeeen take care rather steady stefano ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# lent you my favorite dictionary came back with ripped out pages stopped by so uninvited wasted good silverware on you ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# you can't trust violence. ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Crap into my orifice baby
by kenneth.chu＠uclh.org 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

You really want to get into this, Robin? 1. "He smells of spunk and he stole all my back issues of Look In from the shed." I started smelling of spunk *after* taking your back issues of "Look In", thanks a lot! 2. "One time he threatened to "buy" me a "pint". I don't know what these words mean but they sound evil, and when he said it he looked at me funny" I didn't threaten to "buy" you a "pint", I offered to "puy" you a "bint", you bint, I have no idea what that means but it sounds nice. And I wasn't looking at you funny.. I was looking at YER FANNY. Yer Fanny. 3. "CHU, I'VE BOUGHT A HAIRY DOG AND IF YOU WANT ME SMASH HITS YOU HAVE TO GET PAST HIM FIRST." SMASH HITS is so 29th Febuary, 2001, darling. It's so that date that that date doesn't even exist. Get with the times, innit. Anyway your dog marked its territory on your magazine rack with the smash hits in it, and apologised, so get over it already. Still good to see your true colours. Mmm Pentone 292. Ken ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator(a)uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Wrapped Up In Books - Exclusive!!
by robin stout 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Hullo! I didn't really want to get involved in this LIST WAR at all, but I think the time has come for me to say once and for all that I hate Ken Chu, too. He smells of spunk and he stole all my back issues of Look In from the shed. One time he threatened to "buy" me a "pint". I don't know what these words mean but they sound evil, and when he said it he looked at me funny. CHU, I'VE BOUGHT A HAIRY DOG AND IF YOU WANT ME SMASH HITS YOU HAVE TO GET PAST HIM FIRST. Ben and Rachel, I loved your photos. I didn't recognise Chris Geddes at first, and thought he was just some spiv wandered in off the street to sell his mickey mouse watches. He is very gangly, isn't he? I should really print off a picture of Geddes and show it to my mum and say LOOK MUM I AM NOT AS GANGLY AS THIS MAN YOU CAN STOP FEEDING ME ALL THOSE SAUSAGES NOW, I'M LEAVIN'! In your photos, have you noticed how much Stuart looks like Wurzel Gummidge? I think this is because he eats too many chips. Why do I think this? Well, if you listen to the lyrics of Wrapped Up In Books it all becomes clear: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Wrapped Up In Books ++++++++++++++ The chippy had run out of newspaper, So my chips were wrapped up in books. The girl in the chippy is greasy, I love her greasy looks. <<10-minute washboard solo>> Maybe one day if I'm clean and good, The girl will batter my sausage. I eat chips morning, noon and night, That's why I look like Wurzel Gummidge. <<The sound of a hairy monkey stuck in a mangle to fade..>> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: For all of you doubters who have been saying that Struan's lyrics have lost their emotional punch recently, this song proves you all wrong. You bastards. I'm not sure about the washboard solo, though. I blame Trevor Horn. ROBIN X ps: Ben, I was also very impressed by your Lego trains. pps: Jay, I will give you a cuddle if you want me to. ppps: Once again, I've become aware how UK-centric my posts are. If you are confused by any of the words in this post like "chips" or "Look In" or "Wurzel Gummidge" just let me know and I will put your troubled minds at ease. I think Jay will know who Wurzel Gummidge is, though. [ by express delivery : http://www.superatomic.co.uk ] _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: CHU don't love KENyone!
by Rachel fruitloop-Apps 29 Aug '03

29 Aug '03

Hello Sinister! I am a bit troubled by the strife going on lately. Mark, I was pleased to read your apology. I would consider myself to be a friend of Mark, Idles and Stine, and so these latest posts disturb me. My opinion is that some harsh things have been said in the past. Some things I agree with, and some I don't agree with. It's so easy to get the wrong end of the stick through email. That's why it's very important to think things through before getting too upset. I like it when people express themselves, but I think especially in this forum it's important to try to be as constructive as possible. I think labeling styles of people is more than *SO AUGUST 18th* (that made me laugh!), it's juvenile. Besides that, "twee" is pretty much meaningless here in the States, so that label could have a completely different connotation to people who live in a culture where the word is used. There are a lot of us here from different cultures, so before anyone gets too carried away about things like that, try to remember that the world seems small on Sinister. We have a lot in common, but each culture might interperet something we think as innocent or joking in a different way. I think Mark's plea for sensitivity is a good idea (but that means you, too, Markleby!) Speaking of style, everyone has a different style of communication. Some of us are brash. Some of us are lame. Some of us are overly-sensitive. Some of us are poetic. Some of us are straight-forward. Some of us are lurkers. I would like to think that everybody loves me, but I know that my posts probably irritate some of you. Some of the things I read irritate me, too. I try to ignore the things I don't like. But it's good to disagree; this world would be so boring without some dissention. But I think picking Sinister battles more carefully would be a good idea. I'd rather argue about which version of the DCW cover is best, or whether to refer to it as DICKWIPE or DICKSWAY, rather than reading who is going to shove what up where or what when who and to what extent "twee" is. It's such an abstract concept to get so upset over! Furthermore, Mark apologised and I think it's time to move on. In closing, I'd just like to say that I am glad to be connected to all of you (except for BEN APPS who stinks and KEN CHU, he's a twat!) love, Rachel fruitloop-Apps __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: A response
by Mark Casarotto 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

You really want to get into this, Christine? 1. "i typically keep my personal annoyances from sinister". Except in this case. Which you do *after* my apology. Which you do after Idles posts to stick up for a friend. That's low. Have you been bottling it up? 2. Look at the FAQ. "Shout outs", where you are spending list time and bandwith communicating (but not saying anything, of course) to a few people is not in the spirit of things. 3. While I'm at it, FAQ no. 17 - "He/she's really winding me up, I'm going to slag them off something rotten... DO NOT FLAME PEOPLE OR BE ABUSIVE! I take this very seriously and will act accordingly." no. 17 continues: "This of course doesn't mean you can't express strong feelings strongly - in fact it's mandatory. But don't attack people, attack things". Which, Christine, is what I did. I APOLOGISED, both publicly and to Paul, for what I said to him, particularly how I said it. It doesn't mean I've changed my mind about the negativity of affecting tweeness (though I praise *sensitivity* to the heavens), but that's over and done with. One other thing - are you still friends with Isabel Lark? I'd hate to criticise someone for who their friends are; after all, it's terrible when you get blacklisted because you hang around with people who say things like this: http://www.missprint.org/sinister/mhonarc/200101/msg00348.html - check it out, Christine. It might be illuminating. Perhaps after 6 years (happy 6th birthday, Sinister, btw - though some people seem to think they joined the list well before that, which is odd, don't you think?) you'd have figured out that picking fights isn't on. What's the point, Christine? Still, good to see your true colours. ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Living in the past....
by idleberry 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Hey ho sinister, Theres a few bits to this post, so feel free to skip to the bit that interests you. ***************************** STINE GOT TO THE POINT "i must say that after this whole "twee" debate i have reached a very important conclusion.....mark c. and idleberry are soul mates. honestly, how many people do you know that shove a pole tightly up their arse before posting to sinister? each of them do it....it's fate. imagine, if they were physically together they could bash, insult, whine, complain, bitch, moan, irritate, belittle, condescend, and preach to/about all of us...without any of us actually having to deal with them." Stine, darling, that twee debate is, like, soooo 18th August 2003. We've all moved on, please try to keep up dear. The twee debate is so out of fashion its almost gone full circle and verging on kitsch. Mark appologised and explained himself to those who needed to know, and to the rest as well, I posted other things about other stuff, get over it already. "i typically keep my personal annoyances from sinister, which coincidentally have only been about the aforementioned two parties, to myself. however, i felt that since the 2 of them deem it their purpose on sinister to keep all of us in line, i felt perhaps they should be served a dose of their own medicine." Your medicine was as powerful as a dose of Calpol. What was an important conclusion to you was as noteworthy as a badly written 5 year old's news jotter. "i also find it hysterically funny that anyone would complain about the mid-atlantic meetups....considering the fact that 11 months out of the year all of us read constantly about UK meetups. mind you, i'm not bothered by that in the least. i really enjoy reading about what all of you interesting and involved sinisters in the uk have going on...i envy it really. i just think it's funny that anyone thinks too much on list time is devoted to mid-atlantic meetups." I also find it hysterically funny, becuase I don't think anyone did complain about the mid-atlantic meet ups. Did they? Please correct me if I am wrong (I know someone will). And now for a change of subject, but still keeping with my subject line. ***************************** WE'RE SO COOL, IT HURTS I was reading in Elle, today, a piece about fashion. It was all about the 60's trends, vs. the 80's trends. Apparently, two "top designer types" reckon, its about mood as well as the clothes. You have to live and breathe the style, rather than just wear it. And what did they say? Apparently, going to your mates houses and playing records was really cool, as was going to a club night made by your pals. A few years ago, owning a guitar was the coolest thing to do, according to Elle. So basically, as far as I can see, going to the Winchester Club is the ultimate in fashion right now. But hey, we knew that all along. ***************************** ALBUM COVERS I was interested by Lucy Alder's pictures, of two possible album covers. I suppose only time will tell, won't it? Personally, I prefer the one where you can see all the band a little better (the Amazon one) rather than the one with Richard closer. Thats not to say I think Richard ruins a good picture, but I somehow just like to see all the band properly in the photo. The thing I'm interested in most, is waiting for the mini literary treat that is the sleeve note stories. Was it TWATTYBUS that missed them out? I think it was. Just a piccie of Isobel looking coy. I'm sure there were plenty of boys who weren't complaining though. Does anyone know the date when the album is due to be released? ***************************** BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, ON THE INTERNET, PLAYING SONGS FOR CHILDREN... Unfortunately, despite all the will in the world, and all sorts of wonderful programmes on my brothers computer, I wasn't able to watch the internet thing. >From the sounds of it, I missed out. I can't complain though, since we were lucky enough to get the televised version of the Concert for Africa, which I taped. I think Laura Llew wanted a copy, so if you're out there Llew, and you still do, send me your addy. ***************************** MAKES ME WANNA SHOUT Finally, I'd also like to do my wannabe thang, like I've got through to a soulessly cheesy local radio DJ on a phone in and got a song requested and give out shouts to all my buddies on the list: namely Mark Casarotto my platonic soul mate; Mark Waudby, my love soul mate; Sarah, Mark Casarotto's darling; Brian McKinnon, the lowest of the lo-fi; Mandalion; Lyns; Patrick; Nal; Lucy; Lucy Alder; David Moore; Sally Moore; Nick Dastoor (cos it rhymes with moore); Ally Cooke; Robin Stout; Stacey'n'Richard; Pansy Pop; Ken Chu; Marianna; RJG; Kirsten; Mr and Mrs Bapps; Matt Henderson; Michael Grant; Archel; my mum; my dad; God; Jesus; and anyone who knows me, from past, present, or future. To paraphrase Brett Anderson, I'm not going away, so you might as well just go and get some camomile lotion. Yours forever (whether you like it or not) Idleberry ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: /me ducks and covers
by Jay Eckard 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Sinisterines: I may love me some Sinister in general and Markelby and Idles in specific, but man, I'm hiding myself from the whole new firestorm Miss Irene may just have initiated. I don't like the violence, yo. I'm a simple peace-loving, neo-Romantic, Dr Who-lovin' poof. Also, Robin Stout has vowed to hug Paulo. What do *I* have to do for that kind of action? I'm willing to fork out the cash. I just read in this month's Utne Reader that statistically Australian girls are most likely to put out on the first date. WHat does this mean for Miss Trixie Firecracker and her recent night out? I can only wonder. For all those up late/up early, the ever-fabulous JayleMurph Radio Extravangnza, Late-Night Edition has its last fling tonight, 3 to 5 am EST/8 to 10 am BST. I take requests yo. Ducking and Covering, GayJay -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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