August 2003 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?
by Christine Irene 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

hi everyone. it's been awhile...though, perhaps not long enough. i must say that after this whole "twee" debate i have reached a very important conclusion.....mark c. and idleberry are soul mates. honestly, how many people do you know that shove a pole tightly up their arse before posting to sinister? each of them do it....it's fate. imagine, if they were physically together they could bash, insult, whine, complain, bitch, moan, irritate, belittle, condescend, and preach to/about all of us...without any of us actually having to deal with them. i typically keep my personal annoyances from sinister, which coincidentally have only been about the aforementioned two parties, to myself. however, i felt that since the 2 of them deem it their purpose on sinister to keep all of us in line, i felt perhaps they should be served a dose of their own medicine. i also find it hysterically funny that anyone would complain about the mid-atlantic meetups....considering the fact that 11 months out of the year all of us read constantly about UK meetups. mind you, i'm not bothered by that in the least. i really enjoy reading about what all of you interesting and involved sinisters in the uk have going on...i envy it really. i just think it's funny that anyone thinks too much on list time is devoted to mid-atlantic meetups. oh well. onwards and upwards. the usual shouts out...dirty vicar (are you alive?), matt (my dorky 80's pop culture soul mate :O), kevin (who is moving house) chris (to whom i need to reply) rachel frutiloop apps (hi :O) and jinnifer (are you alive) and of course miss goffey :o) love to you all. you twee bunch you. ~stine __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: reporting back: tiny but lovely
by Stefano [Steady-State] 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Dear Sinister well.... trying to cope with inherently bit laziness... thinking of doing thing for days and realising the week is getting to the end again and having done pretty much nothing, but add some more mess to my so-called live. so-called is my favourite word. I shall balme the bank holyday for the shortness of the week tho. actually, talking about bank holyday we had a very tiny but extremely lovely picnic on Monday, me and mark stayed quite a bit in front t of the cinema, conveniently located in a convenient for doing people watching.. actually watching people is fun but not for too long... at least is better then police watching which is what we had plenty of chance to do... caz and bag... they cars said on side. Paul get on the top of the hill almost perfectly on time. and being a rather scrupulous picnic mum I brought a blanket with me. that stole all the place for boozes. and actually, as far as I remember it was the first picnic we have ever had without a single drip of alcohol. that wasn't quite right so we ended up in the old dear spread eagle for a few one, chatting randomly and spending a very lovely Monday. i doesn't sound might be exciting, but I felt fit for once take care your rather steady stefano PS: thank you very much to anyone who send me email of the list. I justcan't tell how much I do appreciate that. ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# lent you my favorite dictionary came back with ripped out pages stopped by so uninvited wasted good silverware on you you can't trust violence. ~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~#~# +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Twee rule the school
by kenneth.chu＠uclh.org 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Couldn't be arsed to talk about twee and shit so I went to bastardise B&S lyrics instead. Twee rule the school ------------------------------ On an e-mail crudely carved "B.S. was twee" Why did she do it? Was she scared was she bored? On a e-mail rudely carved "M.C. hates twee" Why did he do it? Was his arse slightly bruised? Do something girly while you can Don't fall asleep Watching the footie in a pub is cool Do something blokey while you can Don't be a fool Picking a daisy to yourself is fine On an e-mail going round "Twee'd Rue The Day" Written for everyone to read and to see On an e-mail going round "Twee Rule The School" Written for everyone with arse in their head Do something petty while you can Don't fall asleep whinging about your ex-girlfriends all day til you're bored So call me A. Moffat if you want It's no secret You know the world is made for Chas You know the world is made for Chas You know the world is made for Chas not Suggs ********************************************************************** This email is confidential and intended solely for the person or entity to whom it is addressed. If this email was not intended for you please notify the UCLH Mail Administrator at mail.administrator(a)uclh.org. This footnote confirms that the email and attachments contained no viruses when they left UCLH. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: You can taste blood again
by Mark Casarotto 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Oh yes - there was something I've been wanting to know but, due to not having the right software, I can't find out. Those of you who have heard "Lord Anthony" being played live - how does it differ from the versions played on tour in 1998-99? Then, it was a "Modern Rock Song"-type sweet, steady song with soaring melodies and sparse instrumentation. Please don't tell me they've buggered it up a la "The Wrong Girl" with layers of superfluous strings or messed around with its glorious simplicity. Yours, ludditeliciously, Mark xxx ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: *avoids making a humourous reference of any sort*
by Mark Casarotto 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

It's good to have enthusiasm back on the list. First off, apologies to anyone I offended with my being-bolshy-without-thinking last post. I apologised to Paul off-list, I *explained* myself to Pais off-list, but I'm sorry to y'all too. Long time members may be aware this sin't the first time I've gone a little over the top. Having said that, y'know, this list has always had a sense of humour. Please let's not turn into Bowlie ;) Loads of exciting and marvellous posts lately - it brings to mind the winter of '99 when our inboxes were stuffed with 100 posts every day. Some of which were from Peter Miller. I know it's a bit evil to just go back over the past, and the people who weren't there then will have glazed over a long time ago, but it's hard to argue that Sinister hasn't been, well, dormant for a while now. People move on, mostly the older, more cynical types, who have trouble recognising the honest youthful enthusiasm that makes up the body of the posts (though as far as I can tell the last couple of days have been a rekindling of the late-20s massive, though sinces some of them are LADIES I couldn't possibly list who I mean :) I bought some new shoes. Red and white Puma Riberas. I hope there are at least a few people out there nodding and saying "hey, neat" at this news. Tonight I will finally finish the book that delicious (and full-of-flattery) Cheesybun Eric gave me as part of the Xmas present exchange. And my hokey, if it isn't the best book I have read in years and years! "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay", it's called, and most of you will have read it already, being literary types who keep up with new publications, but if you haven't, sell some dodgy CDs (perhaps your 2 spare copies of Fishyclap, not that I would have 2 spare copies, um) and buy it this instant. On a similar tip, if there are any listees who got an Xmas exchange present BUT DIDN'T THANK THE PERSON IT CAME FROM, it's not too late, you know. *looks pointedly westwards* Phrase for today: "Isn't it, though?" I love that phrase. Rosy cheeks and snow-white trainers, Markelby xxxx ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: SF treasure, B&S on the radio (fwd)
by Ian Connelly 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

(did this not go through the first time? sorry if it goes twice.) as rachel noted, the SF treasure wasn't found until the day after the show. it wasn't that the clues were hard, i think, just that the final resting place of the treasure was in a very large building with a bunch of stores, and the clue itself didn't really give much away. the clues are here, if you'd like to see them: http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/2003-08-20/garrett.html/1/index.html but ah, you should've seen kevin and i last wednesday, running around town to each and every nautical or pirate-themed venue trying to get to the bottom of clue #2. il pirata, the buccaneer, trad'r sam's, the pirate store on valencia - i did them all, and with no success. pirates aside, we certainly swearing like a couple of sailors that evening as we brainstormed over whiskey and pool. once we'd figured out the final clue and put the letters together to spell FAIRY (this was on wednesday), kevin wanked around the newly re-opened FERRY building but couldn't find anything even after asking around and around and around. at the show on friday, he cornered deborah and solomon and interrogated them, frustratedly, until he knew he had almost been in the right place. he'd been there weds, thurs, and fri and still not found it! that's a certain strong-headed devotion. then, perhaps a bit hungover on saturday, he trekked down there again, through hordes of people looking for organic tomatoes and expensive cheese (there's quite a good farmer's market at the ferry building on saturday) to find it. the treasure itself was excellent - copy of the new dvd (sadly unplayable on region-limited machines), cd of the belfast show last year, and decidedly twee trinkets like a shiny necktie, book on How To Make Things, a toy Jaguar, spoon from a scottish exhibition of sorts, etc. unclear if the tickets included will be good for the band's next show here, but he's hoping. did anyone listen to the band on KCRW? if so, relive it again! if not, try it now: http://kcrw.com/cgi-bin/ram_wrap.cgi?/mb/mb030826Belle__Sebastian they played: lord anthony women's realm step into my office, baby scooby driver (?) travellin' light judy & the dream of horses the state that i am in others have covered the berkeley show better than i ever could. it was marvellous. ian +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: today, tomorrow, we'll be back in trouble again
by rrrrobyn 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

Hello! Sinister! So, I saw that my doppelganger, Robin, has been posting a lot, as if to say, hehe, Robyn, see how I post and you do not? That is because I am your more powerful, all-b&s-knowing, british self! mwaha! He has interesting stuff to say and even stuff to say about tweeness, etc. Whereas, I. do. not. He also drinks a lot of tea. I've switched to yerba mate because i like to jump on bandwagons two years too late. He talks to strangers, I just take candy from them. *But* I must defend the Robyn with a y Robyn that is me by writing to sinister after a long long time of not writing to sinister. CRAZINESS concerts? albums? struan writing blog-style? so much in the way of actual B&S News! it's craziness, i say. Despite living in Montreal, I couldn't go to the New York concert (y'know, when I moved here I was, like, ooh, so close to New York! Cool! and then soon I was, like, so close to New York! Painful! Why can't I be one of those *rich* students? it's all my own fault, etc.). I had (and continue to have!) no money. A friend told me not to be "greedy", since I have seen B&S twice already. But c'mon, I am a FAN and member of an elite listserv dedicated to B&S, smut, and the relaying of timid fumblings in the dark. I need to go to concerts to retain my membership. Alas, while my soul was in Brooklyn when the day came, my ass was in Montreal, getting drunk on $10 pitchers and singing Rick Astley songs at a dimly lit karaoke bar. CYBORGS My thesis proposal is shaping up. As am I, after a long, cold winter (Summer hasn't been long enough. Need more.) I still wish I were part machine though. It would be great, even if it were just an mp3 player built into my arm. ooh. C'EST L'ETE (with implied accent marks) For all of July I was immersed in a French immersion course thingy in Moncton, NB to fix up my French. And now my french is fixed up! It's remarkable. Soon I will be a real canadian! just like in the movies! COMFORT I've noticed a tinge of emotions re: la liste in a few posts lately. A few 'remember whens' and a few 'gee, you guys...'. ow, the place where my heart should be constricts with love. I too am glad Sinister exists. I've been glad for years. And even though I've been busy and whatever, I'm still glad. I even went to chat in #sinister and felt that heart-type constriction and warmth again. ooh ah ooh. learning's on tv! Robyn p.s. adam brody on "the o.c."! i don't get crushes on tv stars, but, damn, a tv star the likes of him has never been created before. swoon swoon. and there are plenty of gratuitous adam brody looking cute and nerdy shots. the best! ===== I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything. ~Steven Wright ~~~ Robyn Fadden rfadden(a)yahoo.com Montreal, QC http://apoemabouteverything.blogspot.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Just call me the Fire Extweenguisher
by Jay Eckard 28 Aug '03

28 Aug '03

"That Mark Cassaratto is all class." Eric Cheesybun Dear Sinister: Oh my goodness! I leave for a few days and come back to have my eyebrows singed off by a flaming anti-Markelby(-being-anti-twee) post. Markelby for god's sake! Now, to be fair, I've never actually /met/ Mark so I can't say with undisputed certainty Mark is the above quoted All Class, but the quote does come from an undisputed source. I mean, most religious types get by with a lot less proof that god is Generally Quite Swell than I have for Mark being Class. BUT being a fine upstanding South'an Boy, I take to offense when people go shootin they mouth off 'bout people they don't know. I demand satisfaction! Be it pistols or swords, dawn works for me, Pais, but I don't recommend the blades. As for the rest of you lot, SHAME ON YOU for not rushing to Mark's defence, even if he is all butch and doesn't need it! (Umm. Just in case it needs to be said, the above is to be taken with a LIGHT HEART and HUMOUR. Judging from the firey posts, some have lost a bit of this.) As to being twee, all I know is that I took a test (http://www.howdoesitfeel.co.uk/) that told me I was 78% twee, which is "quite twee." And I may sometimes be quite twee, but sometimes I am quite fierce. So it balances out: "for every twee there is a Llew and a time to every purpose in Glasgow." Now, back to a much more proper post. I bring you, with only slight delay, from my Vacation to New York in which the much belov'd chantuers Belle and Sebastian some... ...INK POLARIODS! ***This is me, blinking in the early morning sun as I get in my car. It's a Little Red Car, a Neon in fact, which no longer has the pong of vomit in it. I'm not often up before noon, so I look dazed and frightened by the ball of fire glinting in the East. I have a good six hours of driving ahead of me and one very good mix tape with B&S, Camera Obscura, Le Tigre, the Yeah Yeah Yeahs and the Smiths. ***This is me, six hours later, stuck in standstill traffic in Maryland for no obvious reason. I stop from singing very loudly for a few minutes and grin as I realize Ben Affleck's place in God's Great Plan. He's in a movie -- The Sum of All Fears -- where Maryland is nuked. Ahh... the destruction of Ben and Maryland in one fell swoop. The Glory of the Lord truly shines through to me in this revelation. John, Schmohn. Patmos, schmatmos. ***This is me, running through the Brandywine Zoo. I've just been disappointed by the Bobcat (Who knew they were the size of a basset hound?) and am running up to see Jim, the Puma. Turns out Jim was dead. BUT there were Capybaras, the world's biggest rodent, and they are damn cool. They look like 100 pound guniea pigs. I realize later the absence of the otters could be explained by the fact there pen was next to these suckers. Munch Munch! ***Dusk in Prospect Park. I'm on the grass with my boots off, rubbing blisters and swearing I will never, ever move again. Ben Kweller is kwelling on stage and sounding a bit like Ben Folds before pubes. ***"Indiana Marple!" I have taken off my hat -- a rather smart straw panama -- and put it on Laura Llew's head. With her curls and wire frame glasses added to the hat, she looks like and odd fusion of heroes. I wonder if she will fight Nazis with teacups or use a bullwhip to solve murders in the English countryside. When Eric cries out the quote, I giggle for minutes on end. I am glad there's no milk around, as it'd come out my nose. ***Bubbles!! A flutter* of metros decked out in capri pants and tank tops is blowing bubbles during "Judy and the Dream of Horses." The bubbles catch the light as the breeze blows them around and every one is laughing. ***Laura's back. She's walking off with a boy. She seems to like him, but my Spidy Senses are activated. He had a weak handshake and that always bodes ill. And he's burly with the look of a man who's killed a wild animal in his life. I decided to keep an eye on him. But Llew Llooks happy. ***(Last one, I promise!) A torch on the water. It's a subway station somewhere in Brooklyn or Manhattan. A last minute train closing has left Eric slightly confused and dashing. Hobbling behind him a few paces, I turn around to look out over the water. And there's The Statue of Liberty. I grin to myself and have a sudden urge to run up and hug Eric when I realize I really am in New York. And with one of my favorite people. And it's after midnight. For whatever reason, I don't. It's late and we have to get to Queens, to see people and do things. There'll be time for mushiness later.** Yours, GayJay * It's the new collective noun for CitiFags! ** Turns out, there was! PS: Ian -- you're not the only one who thinks about Bel Ami. I think Frisky Summer Two is one of the great films of our Generation! -- "The Posby falls into a Trance In which it does a little Dance." Edward Gorey _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and enjoy automatic e-mail virus protection. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: When I was a boy I was KENfounded by CHU
by Rachel fruitloop-Apps 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

Hello Sinister! Some really exciting things have happened this past weekend! I want to share my Belle & Sebastian experience with you. That is what this post is about. Ben already posted about our trip to Berkeley to see the show on Friday. I have to add that the Greek Theatre venue in Berkeley is spectacular. It is gorgeous looking, almost bowl-shaped the way that the stone step seating graduates up to the top, with gigantic stone columns as the backdrop to the stage and lots of greenery surrounding the area. The sound was so rich, much better than at the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles, which actualy was pretty damn good. Before the Berkeley show, we met up at the International House Cafe right by the venue. Toy Stephen was there, remember him from Sinister days of yore? The wonderful Katie Odle and I both agreed (when her boyfriend Jeremy and Ben weren't present, of course!) that Stephen is a Hunk-a-saurus Rex. That is also where I met Deborah and Solomon, the San Francisco Treasure Hunt planners. We talked a fair bit about our experiences planning treasure hunts in LA and SF. It was so great. Up until that time, the treasure in SF had not been found. Katie was determined to find the treasure after the show. As it got closer to showtime, the dashing Ian Rivamonte showed up with a bunch of his friends, and we had quite a nice gathering. As it turned out, Katie and Jeremy solved the treasure hunt clues and went to the final destination only to discover that the treasure had already been claimed only moments before, according to Deborah by someone named Kevin. Katie was very sad. But she is still a winner in my eyes. *sniff* Anyone who got photos of the Berekely show, if you have any with Deborah and Solomon onstage, please let me know. They didn't get any documentation of getting their medals, and would really like photos if there are any out there. Fast-forward to the Los Angeles meeting place - a field next to the parking lot of the Greek Theatre in Los Angeles. It was just Ben and myself for quite a while. He set up the cricket stumps and I chased the ball down the hill several times through the parking lot. We could hear the sound check, and they were playing "Video Killed The Radio Star" and Ben so quickly put the pieces together that the DCW (DICKWIPE?) producer was Trevor Horn of the Buggles. I wasn't so sure it was actually Trevor singing or maybe just Stuart doing a really good rendition of it. Adrian Rudloff arrived, as did Phil, my best friend Vicky and The Treasure Hunt Winners Mandy, Crystal and Esther along with Alex and Scott. It was so great to meet the people who solved my and Peter Crooks' carefully orchestrated puzzle. I believe it was Stuart who later said the winners are like the Charlie's Angels, and I have to agree! Sat in the field, they were trying to decide if they would sing a song with B&S onstage that night or request a song, and if so, which song? They decided they'd like to have a crack at "Family Tree" and sang it beautifully for us picnickers. It was brilliant because Katrina had left 3rd row tickets and backstage passes for us at the box office, which Mandy and I discovered when we went up to try to find her. The set was only slightly different from that in Berkeley, from what I can recall. The people around us were mostly seated through the show, which was odd, because everywhere I looked, people were standing up and dancing. So Ben, Mandy, Esther and Crystal and I stood up and danced for a good number of songs. I wasn't about to sacrifice a good time that was to be had just because I was sat by people who were uninspired. We were all a bit nervous through the show, wondering when Stuart would ask the Treasure Hunt winners and planners to go up onstage. Before we knew it, they left the stage! We were shocked. They came back for an encore of "Video Killed The Radio Star" with Trevor Horn on vocals. It was amazing, but I had a hard time enjoying it because I was worried that Stuart forgot about the Treasure Hunt. Then came Judy And The Dream Of Horses, and Stuart said that he DID forget about the Treasure Hunt, but that he would talk to Mandy backstage. I'd be lying if I said that we weren't all terribly disappointed. It's pretty crap cos they even published with the clues that going up to request a song or sing a song with the band was part of the prize. I had seen what he had in store for the Treasure Hunt planners up in Berkeley, as well, and so I had expectations (which is the root of most turmoil in my life in general - expectations.) Ian Rivamonte was a superstar again, and got to go onstage and so the speaking bit in "Dirty Dream Number 2" and danced around like a maniac, it was great! The boy with the dark curly hair and glasses who did the speaking part in DD#2 in Berekely also returned to the stage in LA to dance during "Judy and The Dream Of Horses." Ian was also onstage again, and got the setlist, which was: Fuck This Shit Expectations There's Too Much Love Step Into My Office, Baby Like Dylan in the Movies Travellin' Light Women's Realm Lord Anthony If You Find Yourself Caught in Love Scooby Driver I Don't Love Anyone The Boy with the Arab Strap The State I Am In Jonathan David Dirty Dream #2 String Bean Jean Roy Walker Sleep the Clock Around Video Killed the Radio Star Judy and the Dream of Horses After the show, Ben, Mandy, Crystal and Esther and I went backstage, and had a seat in a corner. They even had the treasure with them, which was inside of a Belle & Sebastian cereal box that I created to house the treasure box from Stuart. One of the girls took the other two's backstage passes and went out to find Alex and Scott and they also came backstage.(super genius!) First, we spotted Sarah, and I let her know that the Treasure Hunt winners were sat in the corner and that they would love to meet her and get a photo with her. She said that she was going back to the area where the band were and she would let Stuart know as well. It was great because as I saw memebrs of Belle & Sebastian, I'd approach them and usher them over to the girls for a chance to chat and get photos. I felt like I was their agent or something. Stuart came over and gave us all shirts - the ones that I designed the logo for! He explained that he forgot about the Treasure Hunt, and also he had left the medals for me and Peter at the hotel, and also Stevie allegedly was getting uptight about the time because they ran over too late in Berkeley. Stuart left his jacket at the table, so I put it on and went over to talk to him a while later. On the way, I had a nice conversation with Marissa who is the model on the cover of the 'Fans Only' DVD, and Lisa, who bought Stuart's car. Stuart said that he'd come over and get his jacket from me before he left and that I could continue wearing it! I was more than thrilled! The band spent a lot of time in that backstage after-party area. Chris came in urgently toward the end with his dj gear and was heading over to The Derby where he'd be spinning. He quickly posed with the Treasure Hunt kids and talked for a little bit. His moustache and glasses just reminded me of Ned Flanders from The Simpsons! Sarah said that the band might return to the States in October, but most likely will play in cities they didn't get to go to on this short tour. Stuart said that this time they wanted to do a few outdoor summer shows so that everyone would get high and listen to the tunes and take in the scenery. I was very happy to finally meet the lovely Katrina House from Banchory. Despite the fact that she had her hands full, she was very kind to us all. After the backstage thing, Ben and I gave Richard and Dan the engineer a ride to The Derby. I stupidly left my ID at home, and Mick and Stuart didn't have theirs either and couldn't get into the club, they were extremely strict at the door. We stood outside for a while, speaking with Sarah and Mick and a couple of friends (Jane Rockwood and Sandra Christiansen.) Ben and I decided to depart since it was getting on past midnight and we had to work the next morning. Most of the band was going off to another location. Before we left, Ben took a photo of me and Mick in the back of a Volvo! If you'd like to see our photos, they are at www.brapps.net/belles/ I know this is getting obnoxiously long, so I'll try to wrap it up. Believe it or not, some of us have been fans of Belle & Sebastian for *nearly* as long as Jennifer Juniper has, yet still enjoyed the show immensely. Despite all of this personal contact I had with them this time around, I have to keep in mind that it isn't going to always be like that. I have learned my lesson the hard way in the past. Sometimes one starts to expect special treatment and considers themselves to be better connected to the band than they are. The best connection, in my opinion, is in my car singing along and harmonizing with Ben. Or in my bedroom, jumping on the bed listening to "The Lonliness Of The Middle-Distance Runner." I think how you feel about the music depends a lot on what sort of relationship you have with it. I want to keep mine based on the essence of it; they tend to make songs I enjoy and want to sing along and dance to. Jennifer said "the beauty and fragility were gone and replaced by slick production." I have to disagree. I still noticed missed notes and mixed up lyrics, as usual. Besides, if it really were such a slick production, then the Treasure Hunt wouldn't have been overlooked, don'tcha think? If you missed B&S on KCRW yesterday, they have it archived on their site at: http://www.kcrw.com/cgi-bin/db/kcrw.pl?show_code=mb&tmplt_type=program Just scroll down to "Recent Programs" That's all from me for now! love, Rachel fruitloop-Apps __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: Mid-Atlantic picnic update
by Carr, Lisa 27 Aug '03

27 Aug '03

At the risk of prompting more bad jokes about eating in the middle of the ocean, I've been asked to post an important announcement about the September 6 mid-Atlantic picnic: Kim Girton, picnic organizer extraordinaire, has been struck by one of those nasty computer viruses going around and has been forced to change her email address. If you are interesting in attending, please write to her at her new email -- kg11053(a)yahoo.com. (Kim is back in the Sinister nursery since switching to the new email address, so all future picnic announcements will be sent off-list.) +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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