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Sinister: Le Pastiche De La Bourgeoisie
by Kenneth P Y Chu 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

... Since Archel likes them so much Sunbeam shone, mousy girls kissing Ken Chu You'd join the romp, oh if only they'd let you Le Pastiche de la Bourgeoisie Man your job is poo, you're an inputter of data But you're friends, they spread gold flakes on butter Le Pastiche de la Bourgeoisie Reading NME But you're just too twee You're too twee, much too twee for a boyfriend You run and hide, from their buckfast and spliff ends Don't be scared, like the Glasgoo neds take some heroine and you'll be doing fine Wouldn't you like to get away? Bestowing the memory of good and evil On miss Campbell's left behind mmm how it's fine! And you love when the band is around you How you'd love arms of sex to surround you Le Pastiche de la Bourgeoisie See the Arms of Stu Strumming we rule the school Listen Dear, I've been catching flu lately If I sneezed at your face you would hate me Le Pastiche de la Bourgeoisie Playing DDR I nearly stepped too far Wouldn't you like to get away? Give up your wages for allures of Seeing Sturan Live playing the land of Stars and Stripes!! Wouldn't you like to get away? Robertson's beckoning with swearing words, And open signs of middle fingers Westward bound Wouldn't you like to get away? Give up your wages for allures of Seeing Sturan Live! playing the land of Stars and Stripes!! <ding dingdingdingdingdingding dingdingdingdingding ding dingdingdingdingdingding dingdingdingdingding diiiiiiiiiing oog oog oog oog oog oog oog> Pastiches and Red Bulls Ken _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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by Joey V Lawton 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

traveled to new york this past weekend. missed many of your lovely posts. new york city is too massive. it's like when we were all small and we designed our own houses and towns and whatnot and everything was in massive child-like proportions, only this time the child was designing a city. hung over with that early morning feeling of awe for every bit of light hitting every grain of sand. coney island was all abandoned and desolate and none of the rides were working and the ocean reflected the sky so seamlessly that it looked like either the water was in a wave way up over your head or the sky had fallen and was washing up upon the beach. quite surreal. and so goes my second post. -joey PS: How do you get a girl to fall madly in love with you? It's just that the subject has come up and i'm looking for suggestions or hints and clues. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Morning Star
by figure2＠fsmail.net 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

Why are tailors such darned masochists? (bleep) it's 05:55am and I do really have an 06:00 deadline... I mean, I get on a smart suit my dad gave to me that he wore, which fits as well as the one the tailor got made for me in the Scottish Borders and the olive moleskins I got made by a trendy in Exmouth Market for £120 three years ago and they're all so damned skimpy in various ways... this jacket is cool but the trousers hurt like the moleskins and the trousers from the Borders fit but the jacket's damned miserable... as if it was for a wee hobling old man. Serves me right for being a posh git and going to tailors? Try finding trousers in the size of a 5'6" man who hasn't got an enormous bum and the sticks clowns use to walk on.... bleauh! Anyway. All in cloth to die for and I look goddamned gorgeous. So. Mwah! This must be the most rubbish ever, but... time now 05:53... The last time I slept I was beseiged by demons in weird heads and friendly gogs that then bit like alligators and the sounds! Chattering, whooshing! Luckily, the previous night I heard bongos counterpointed after a build-up with gentle electronic tines; phrases etc. before descending into what a pop outfit might term to be a 'string section'...lush then growing louder darker then a whole new meaning of loudness and darkness as the arpeggios descended and descended bigger and wider....lovely the AAAARRRRGHHHH!. So I got up and made some food to eat. That was 3am the day before yesterday. Now I have a tailoring discomfiture, after no sleep but much fun in #sini: Ahoy! Land Ahead! 06:01... I can run for the train in 12 minutes (used to it) but send, shut-down, transfer CD to bag, switch off, unlock/re-lock doors etc....xxxxxxx:) Gordon _______________________________________________________________________ Never pay another Internet phone bill! Freeserve AnyTime, for all the Internet access you want, day and night, only £12.99 per month. Sign-up at http://www.freeserve.com/time/anytime +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: yeah, what he said (+ midwest show meetups, yo)
by amy.longcore＠ch.novartis.com 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

hi kids. wow. neil told someone whatfor. was harsh, but i know he takes a lot of poop when it comes to the band touring. the man needed a release sometime... but golly, he even said fanny! good thing i only think that means BUTT. i don't mind paying. i wish they could make something off of the tours. i'm so flabbergasted they are coming to DETROIT of all places. amazing. i'm stunned and smitten and oh, so glad. i would've paid lots more (don't get any wise ideas tho, hee hee). sincerely, neil, if you are reading.... whatever made you guys decide on chicago and detroit on nights that ACTUALLY WORK OUT FOR ME let me just say, thank you. wether it be divine intervention or a what the hell shrug that brought them out my way, YAY! i look forward to every moment and plan to jump the stage and make everyone listen to me belch out lazy line painter jane. ok, i won't do that, but i will be having fun. guaranteed. so, yeah. the shows. lots of buzzing about meet-ups and nothing concrete. i've discussed with a few of you the idea of getting ajoining suites in a suitable hotel. i haven't even began investigating what this "suitable" place would be, since, of course it would be ideal to be a walking distance to the venue. but, this is detroit we're talking about. there'll be enough of us around and driving that we could carpool to the venue tho. as far as detroit goes, i'm thinking the howard johnsons. only 'cuz i've been there and know it's decent. i will investigate a bit more tho. trust me. as far as chicago goes, someone else could help give me ideas. so, let's figure where we'll stay, and whoever wants in on this, mail me ASAP and we'll get this ball rolling. if the whole ajoining thing is just too sini-intense for you, but you'd still like to meet everyone, heck, just get your room wherever we're staying and you can come and go as you please. i'm already planning a saturday morning breakfast at the motown international house of pancakes in detroit, then on to chicago from there :) i have a romantic thing for this IHOP since i usually go there with friends the morning after shows. plus, there's nothing better than having marvin gaye and diana ross stare down at your strawberry covered waffles as you try and wake up. so, like i say, if you want in on one or both nights of this frolicking twee insanity, let me know! i'll be the one with the lampshade on my head. i know that while in detroit my friend meghan and maybe one more will be rooming with me, then in chicago my friend david might be rooming with me. other than that, i'm open to sharing space with others of you i'm comfortable with that want to share the funding for the evening. um, i wanted to write and say pretty things, but i'm not up for it tonight. strictly business for now. special "hello"s to shawn and emily. the forecast is good, amyrachelapplejackslongcore p.s. oh yeah, i have a confession. i have no freaking idea what DDR is. enlighten me. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Have CHU and her been taKEN pictures of your obsessions?
by Rachel fruitloop 22 Feb '02

22 Feb '02

HELLO SINISTER!!!!! The other night I was laying in my bed listening to a bootleg of B&S live in L.A. on September 6th, 2001. (Thanks again, Ernie!) So many memories came flooding back to me... I could recall the visual excitement of gazing upon our beloved band as I listen to the very sounds I had heard live that night. It's so bizarre for me to hear the exact words Stuart spoke when acknowledging the boy and me just standing there in the crowd, speaking DIRECTLY to us! Does this actually happen to unsuspecting people? Does it happen to me? I barely even *got* tickets to this show, let alone imagined that I would ever be on the stage with my favorite band and favorite boy toy! I miss the boy. I miss my 'Dog On Wheels' and 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' eps that he stole from me, leaving me with only the empty cases. It's very symbolic of me and him, I suppose. Because all I really had was the empty case and the liner notes all along. I'd like to think that magical things like being asked to dance onstage with B&S happen because of good luck. Or because I'm MAGNETIC! Isn't that a lovely way to think of yourself? *You're irresistible!* But the idea that me and the boy always got special attention because we were a "good looking couple" doesn't necessarily add any depth to the superficial relationship that we had. It seems like any time even through November, that the boy and I went out we still get recognized from the B&S show... I have to say that being associated with B&S is G-R-A-T-E!! I am hoping to make some even more special memories when I see them again in less than a month with the adorable Mr. Ben Apps in a faraway land! *HOW ROMANTIC*! One thing is quite clear. My heart is knotted up with Belle & Sebastian's strings. Everything that means anything to me comes down to this band and these songs. That's what is on my mind right now. And I'd like to say that even though I swore I would *never ever* go to the Coachella festival here in the Indio desert of California EVER again (despite the fact that I saw Morrissey from about 10 feet away and cried, PLUS saw Super Furry Animals and Bis!) Mainly I swore off the festival because it is WAY TOO HOT and TOO EXPENSIVE, but because Belle & Sebastian will be there this year, so will I. And it will be WORTH EVERY PENNY and ounce of sweat to be there. Plus, I'll get to camp with Sara Bus Stopper (right, Sara?!)! Props to Neil. You rock my world! So, recently I was rereading your posts from about the 1st through the 7th of this month, and these are some things that caught my attention... *****WELCOME***** Welcome Ollie Fox! Group Hug!! *****B&S GATHERINGS***** Eric the Half a Bee wrote: "I think B&S should do a prison tour; I bet that would go over smashingly." I can imagine how cute they'd all look if they dressed up in prison jumpsuits!! Dirty Vicar wrote: "It would be great if B&S collaborated with Missy Elliot. She could sing about how hot she is and Stevie and Stuart could sing about how frightened of her they are, and then Isobel & Sarah could pop up and sing a 'hey, remember us boys?' line." The song could be called "Get UR Twee On" and released on a special 12" vinyl format with a gatefold cover full of photos and 5 different remixes. I'd buy that in a second! Jason Andreas was playing with the B&S Song generator and the results were slightly insulting but predominantly hilarious! David Moore wrote of "The Magic of a Kind Word": "convince me that Stuart doesn't actually keep singing "Shake, Mother Goose" throughout it." I think this is one of my most favorite mishearings ever!!! Ha-ha-larious!!! Gordon wrote: "What about 500 of us, from all over the world, camping in a circus big top for a week? We could do some useful community project, say, and invite belle and seb to take part in the evening revelries." I am pretty sure that's going to be us here in Cali at the Coachella festival! Everyone from all over the world should come, too! I'm sad that Nik Ovenden is going to miss it by a mere 2 weeks! *****MEET UPS***** Amy "Rachel Applejacks" Longcore wrote about a Michigan Midwest meet up: "i've been thinking independance day weekend would be good for the meet up." and then The Cat's PJs Jason wrote: "Our beloved Amy Applejacks has proposed a Sinister midwest gathering, and I'm all for it. I'm willing and eager to do a Sinister round up in the Chicagoland region and drive all the little doggies down the trail to wherever Ms. Applejacks wishes." That is a WONDERFUL idea! I hope that Ben will be here with me during the 4th of July and maybe we can have a nice Southern California meet up then, too. Speaking of meet ups: *****SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MEET UP***** SATURDAY FEB 23, 7:15 PM at the SUNSET 5 THEATER/VIRGIN MEGASTORE IN HOLLYWOOD. We will see 'Storytelling' at 7:45 and then venture to Swingers Restaurant on Beverly for dinner. Yippee! Look out for the Reporting Back! *****YORK SINISTER MASSIVE***** Assman Walton wrote: "Mr Stuart Hallifax noted that he didn't have anything more humourous to add than the fact that Feather Boa walked in a puddle, and that Archel has a strap-on." I think it's soooooooo entertaining when you all get together, and I especially like it when you go to a computer and write stuff together for us all to read! Archel Toast wrote: "i can remember very little (apart from asm's middle name which i will probably never forget - oh, it's not 'studmuffin' by the way)." The suspense is killing me... is his middle name Danger? Har! *****POLAND SINISTER MASSIVE***** Ola "Rachola Cinnamon" wrote of her adventures with Maja and James Dancin Hatchback in Poland: " the evening continued with The Great Escape Into The Wardrobe (ever listened to sigur r�s when hidden in a wardrobe? no? well try it! ;)) and then we all went 'Oh, Let's Go Out&Get A 2nd Bottle Of Wine!' it was about 3am methinks. ah well.. we didn't go to sleep till about 5 or so = ) lalala.." I am going to have to try this sitting in a closet drinking wine and listening to music thing... except my closet is pretty small... Or maybe me and my friends will just have to take turns sitting in the closet. But it *is* pretty fun to be crammed into a closet with two lovely ladies, innit Dancin' H? I am so happy that you all had a fun time there, and I hope that your car wasn't turned into a planter by the time you returned to London! *****BAKERS DOESN'T***** A little side story about this heading. It's a phrase that my friends and I use to describe what might be called "dry humping" here... because we knew a boy with the last name Baker who is very religious and was so riddled with guilt for dry humping his girlfriend that he had to confess. From that moment on, the act became known as the "Bakers Doesn't" to me and my posse, that is, until my sister Amber coined the phrase "Xtreme Snuggling"... and um, yeah, we're retarded. Anyway I thought it would make a good heading for quoting the Bakers Baker and Lindsey Lou! They posted some beautiful words recently: LindseyLou Baker wrote: "the fortune in my fortune cookie tonight said my love of life would carry me through any circumstance, and for once, i think it might be true. i have wondered what it would be like to keep a real, i suppose, non-tour diary many times in my life, and have often tried to do the deed but to no avail." I just recently looked through the journal I had kept during my travels following Suede's '97 North American tour, and I always felt guilty for not writing down everything. I got down everything from the first 2 days and then the rest is bits and pieces. The reason I got it out at all was because I *swear* I remember meeting Genevieve Wesley from this here list in Ottawa, and I was hoping that I had written something down. Of course, I didn't find anything conclusive, but the stuff that I *did* write down was so funny! So much of it I had forgotten all about. I even stumbled upon a page that Mr. Brett Anderson himself had written... something along the lines of "we're not going to do anything even slightly interesting on this tour." and I was blown away! I mean, shit, talk about an ingrate! I have this thing shoved away in a drawer because I "never finished" my journal, and it is LOADED with grate things!! So, my perspective on journal-writing has totally changed. I'm going to try to write more, but not feel as if I am obligated to write regularly or even often. Even just to write down the stupid things that me and my friends say to each other like the "Baker's Doesn't"... that is something that I want to remember but will probably fade away into oblivion in 6 months, you know? And then Lindsey Lou said: "everything this week has reminded me of something else, someone else, and i like it that way. i like it that when i wake up to a certain song i think of a day or an event or a smell or a sound, and the moments of each day become weighted with meaning. the bottle of vodka will always be a party or a person or two and the first bottle of booze ever to reside in my apartment. the boy will always be the superchunk will always be the radio will always be the snow day will always be the unexpected b&s will always be sinister. i like that." I like that, too! You put it so eloquently! Yay Lindsey!!!! Baker,Baker wrote: "childishly, i cope with my sadness by using it as a great big magnifying lens for other things, like music. or movies, or art. gosh...have you ever considered how insignificant music and art would be in your life if you'd never ever felt terribly sad once in your life?" Yeah... everything would just seem so bland in comparison to constant happiness! And Baker, Baker wrote the most GORGEOUS thing: "in chicago, you don't see many stars. the air is too thick with the dead skin off of our cars and the warm breath of our factories making the sky steamy and dusty, like dirty glasses that you've touched too much and then come inside out of the cold with. instead of stars, we have airplanes. last time i checked, o'hare was still the busiest airport in the world, and we have lots of beautiful, blinking stars that race each other around the sky." Sometimes I forget to go outside and look at the sky. Usually, I glimpse up at the stars when I get out of my car in the driveway when my work day is done. But then it's only for a second, and maybe I do it just to make sure that the stars are still there and that they haven't all changed into airplanes... but I think I need to look at the sky more often. When I was a kid I used to stare up at the sky for hours, and I would try to comprehend how far up the atmosphere actually went before it was outer space. Sometimes I would just stand in the middle of the cul de sac and spin as I stared at the clouds, and the wire from the street lamps would stretch across my field of vision and spin around with me. It made me feel like I was on some weird carnival ride. *****LIST ABUSE***** Rachel Grapenut wrote: "List abuse is writing someone a personal message, trying to find a roommate or a ride to such and such town or other place..but not necisarily talking about things that don't relate to belle and sebastian, don't you agree?" Yes, I agree. I think the 15 minute rule is a good one; that we should take at least 15 minutes to write what we want to say to everybody. It seems like everyone who posts does that. Patrick Doyle got caught on Sinister at school and had to unsubscribe. But before he departed, he wrote about the student teacher in PE class saying that they knew who Belle & Sebastian are, and guessed that they were from the '70's or '80's to which Patrick replied: "i think you'll find that's Simon and Garfunkel" How funny! Last weekend I was talking to this guy Fred who is the receptionist at the salon where some of my friends work, and I told him that I was going to see B&S and he said "oh yeah, I've heard of them" and this other girl said "Who are they?" and he said "oh they're old, like from the '80's, they've been around forever!" I wonder if it's a common misconception about B&S... and if it is, is it because people are confusing them with a different band, or if they just think that they sound like they're from the '80's? Hmmmmmm. David Stankin' wrote of Sinister: "There should be some sort of warning on the site. I know there�s some vague talk about pulling and getting into people�s underpants and so on, but really, I think that just encourages people." Yeah, I think we're a strange breed around here. A lot of people I know don't understand the Sinister phenomenon and there is no way to explain it. And even further now, I am facing criticism from co-workers who just "think it's weird" that I met Ben through Sinister and that I actually view this as a "real relationship"... um... I think some people don't want to admit how superficial relationships can be even when you're face to face every day. And frankly, I don't give a fuck what other people say about it. I have a hard time finding like-minded people around here. I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm an oddball, and if this internet list is where I can settle down with some old story about a boy who's just like me, then that is where I belong. That's my view on it, anyway! :) Is talking about the list on the list list abuse? Props to Jenny Payne for organizing the Sinister Valentine exchange thing! John T. Cat, Esq. posted a mango pineapple salsa recipe and I can't wait to try it! Mark C wrote: "Household tip of the day - don't let girls use your shower, or you'll be picking skanky bits of hair and unmentionable gunk out of the plughole on a weekly basis ;-)" Thanks Mark, but are we supposed to believe that this is really true? (that you've had a naked girl in your house! haw-haw!) *****ONLY SLIGHTLY MENTAL***** Matt Henderson wrote: "If all good things come to an end, surely all bad things do to? I think the key to beating depression is finding that end, or at least knowing it's out there." Yeah, I think so! I mean, you all have heard my stories about fighting depression and being medicated, etc. But I have never once thought about killing myself. I think maybe because I'm too full of myself to end it all, but more than that because even in the lowest of low times, I would think to myself that things can only get better. And there was one occasion when I was wallowing in my misery and I asked "how can things get any worse?" and I got my answer in the form of a car accident, and my troubles that had me reeling before seemed less tragic in comparison to not having my car for 2 months due to insurance red tape and mistakes! arrgghhh! But for the most part, I think that good times and bad times come in cycles. All I can do for myself is take medication to fix the chemical thing and then try to think positively. The power of optimism is astounding. Steven Rhodes makes me laugh! He wrote: " I had this momentary lapse of reason and instead of putting the milk back in the fridge, I put it in the cupboard. Have you ever done this? I actually did a similar thing the other day. I was driving home from work and instead of driving home I flew to Geraldton, Western Australia. It was really embarrassing." Yeah, I hate it when that happens! And the bit about cats hating the beach, oh, that KILLED me!! I felt like I was reading Steven's stand-up act!! :) Rachel Grapenut wrote: "My nostalgia (though some would consiter me a child, I do not!) is mostly for the opertunity to be childish,something that is discouraged past childhood, but really does not have to be and should not be." I see what you mean. I don't feel discouraged about being childish. Or "child-like" as ColinBoy used to say. I think that it's important to be child-like. I just find that now that I'm a grown-up, nobody forces me to play outside. I remember when I was a kid and me and my sister and our 2 brothers would be driving my mom crazy and she would force us to play outside for a while. And like the memory of spinning around looking at the sky, I can remember how it felt to notice the little nuances in the weather when the sun started setting later in the evenings as spring approached, and how it felt to get so hot from running around in the mild California winter twilight until the street lights came on. Yet my cheeks would be beet red and freezing cold on the surface and my mom would yell at me for taking off my coat in the middle of the front yard because it was too hot to wear whilst riding my bike around. And now the street lights are on before I even get home from work, so I wouldn't have time to force MYSELF to "play outside" even if I wanted to despite the fact that the neighbors would think I was crazy (er). But I think this is what is missing from my life. The simplicity of being forced to play outside... Kirsten Kenyon wrote: "my goodness. looking back, it's now quite clear that my present state of dorkiness is the cruel denouement of years of...dork training." I, too, come from a long line of dorks. It just happens when you're raised to break into song at the mention of any sentence that resembles a song lyric, or to make the most ridiculous puns out of anything. I think that we should embrace our dork lineage and just take comfort in the knowledge that we are not alone! :) And at least we have some "culture" to pass on to our children! *****FOR ME TO MP3 ON***** David White wrote about having his MP3s on his B&S site removed: "I'd also be mightily pissed off if I'd written music that people were stealing at my expense BUT let's not forget here that I wasn't actively letting people download the entire back-catalogue of Belle & Sebastian, I was letting them download a few rare and unreleased tracks." Yeah, that makes me sooo mad! I'm just glad that I pretty much copied everything I wanted to cd before all this happened. If anyone is looking for copies of anything, I can check and see if I have what you're looking for. Jordi wrote: "I heard once that everything that is being done against mp3 would be like coming back to the 50�s and have some official governments trying to forbid radio." That is such a good analogy. How easily we forget the early struggles of social and technological revolution! *****DIDN'T CHU KNOW?***** "Buddists all exclusively listen to Drum 'n Bass, Jazz and Easy Listening and no other forms of music, because they are too at ease with the world and thus aren't miserable enough to care for the whiny lyrics of Morrisey despite the beautiful melodic tunes that often go with them." Oops, then Michael Vance stepped in, speaking of being BUDDHIST and a MORRISSEY FAN! Sorry Kenny! It was a good theory, though! *****WHAT'S IN A NAME?***** Mandee wrote of her band, Daniel Tiger's, demise: "What happens after the end of our fakery? The four of us decided on pursuing solo careers--myself recording under the assumed identity of Simone Turner. We kicked around the idea of forming another band called Swimbuddy. Then another one called The Corn Horns. But where's the real ambition? There only seems to be a real motivation to do something that will only amount to a load of more fakery." I had some fake bands with my friends... my stage name was Rain Bowie and Vicky's name was Sassy Chavelle. We were the fake superstars of bands like Larue, Mascaria, and Maidavale. And who could forget those fake one hit wonders, Mimosa? Errm, everybody! I am quite fond of The Corn Horns, Mandee! (well, I imagine I am, just because the name is swell!) I think that CookieLove is a grate name for a band, and that Astrid is very cute! I liked the name Brighten, too. To Rachel Grapenut, I'd like to say that at one point I had made a draft to post that had comments in it about her and Max's lovely lovely posts and it just sat there too long and got old and so I never posted it. But I took notice, I really did! :) Well, in closing, I'd just like to say that you're all wonderful. I hope to meet some of you when I'm in London next month visiting Ben (which will be March 14-24). THANK YOU to those of you who have written lately to tell me that you like my mega posts. It makes me feel a lot less self-indulgent when I send a 24k post to the list! And to those who I am annoying, sorry in advance! I feel that this one is particularly boastful and I don't mean to be that way with all of my talk about B&S and the meet up and Suede and it's only stuff... you know that, right? Thanks for giving me a good place to express myself. Shout outs to the Rachels (�VIVA RACHELS!) and love to you all! Have fun everyone! love, Rachel fruitloop *****FAVORITE QUOTES***** "why dont i have someone? i dont look like a toad and im not into recreational cannibalism?" - Stine "Don't try to disown yourself like a friend you're ashamed of being seen with by the cool kids." - Kate Keenan "i didn't see how i could be "stuck" anywhere except where i was, and i told her so." - Kirsten Kenyon "yeah......its good to reflect sometimes." - Caleb Ben Moore "I like to dress like I did when I was four years old." - David Stankin' Cooter __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: this one is about glasgow.
by Andrea Kittenmouse 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

Dear Sinister, Wow. I think I haven't posted for almost six months. Why? Because I've actually been so busy that I haven't had time to read it since then. And I felt kind of guilty, for some reason, like if I hadn't read it, I shouldn't post, so I didn't. So, I was in Glasgow last fall for three months studying at the art school. No, I'm not from there, I'm from Portland, Oregon, if you forgot. Maybe I should sum up my trip. Before I left, I saw Belle and Sebastian twice in Portland and Seattle, and it was amazing. They really rehearse their songs. At least, they sound like it. After they played, I was happy to get the hell out of the country, considering it was September and a tidal wave of creepy right wing patriotism was beginning to flood the U.S. Is liberalism dead? (This is a rhetorical question, of course, so please, don't start). By the way, I did NOT, for the record, go to Glasgow in hopes of seeing, meeting, or stalking any of Belle and Sebastian, despite them being my favorite band. It's a big city, and while I did catch a glimpse of a few members of Idlewild at an Ikari Colt show at Nice'n'Sleazy, saw some guy from Elbow at a bar in Manchester, and almost bumped into (literally) the football player Juan Veron on the street in downtown Manchester, I wouldn't have recognised any of these people if someone hadn't pointed them out to me. In the case of Idlewild it was a drunken 16 year old girl in her school blazer who was too drunk to stop screaming "Oh my god, it's ___ from Idlewild, I'm so f*cked (ed.-as in, drunk), he's so cute, should I go talk to him??!!" To which I replied, in proper order "Oh, how interesting, really, yes, you should go talk to him." Charming girl, really. Nah, Glasgow is too big to really expect to see famous people. And I've learned this lesson from working in radio: don't try to meet famous people whose work you admire, it only makes it weirder to listen to them sing if you have heard their voice in person. Anyway, I had a really good time, and met some nice people. I stayed in the art school dorms, which, while kind of ghetto, were lots of fun. We had our own rooms and didn't have to share bathrooms, which was nice. We were always running out of those weird little cards you buy and use for electricity. And we had a pay phone. That really sucked. That's really why I never called anyone from the list, because it was really expensive to call mobile phones from pay phones. The dorms are right near the art school in city center up the hill from Sauchiehall Street. Our closest subway station was called Cowcaddens. We liked the chip shop around the corner from the Variety Bar on Sauchiehall Street. I got to see Pulp and Hefner live. That was kind of neat. I got to learn lithography and silkscreen. I saw the Tate Modern and an end of term show at Central St. Martins school of fashion in London. Bought a lot of silly clothes at shops that I probably wouldn't buy from if I actually lived in Scotland, like Topshop and H&M. Actually, H&M is so cheap, I probably would shop there. Now I just shop at the Goodwill, because it's the only place where you can buy men's trousers and turn them into a skirt. top ten slang heard often while in glasgow (in no particular order): 1. get your skates on 2. couldn't be asked 3. stupid muppet 4. innit (from ali g., along with slag, punani, and boyakasha) 5. that's boss (from a person from liverpool) 6. posh 7. go on then 8. dodgy (I don't know how to spell this one) 9. ring (like to call someone on the phone) 10. and my fave: easy peazy lemon squeezy If any of these are actually really bad words and you are offended by them, I apologize. I am just an ignorant American, y'know. Anyway, I'm back in America, wondering how skeleton is an Olympic sport, and again, doing a weekly radio show on which I try to talk as little as possible. More info and bad html code can be found at http://web.pdx.edu/~andreay/. Thank you for your time, and I apologize for having ignored you all for so long. It wasn't cuz I don't like ya. Your friend, Andrea K. Mouse _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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Sinister: la la love you
by bus stoppers 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

wasn't it just lovely weather today? sigh. i am just happy right now. ever since that stupid boy broke my heart for the last time right before this past new year's eve, my new year has been wonderful. for once in so many years my life seems to be on track and i like it. before being content with all of the miserableness that was and was not self inflicted was okay. that was what content was. nope. this is content. and though i might not feel this happy all the time, knowing that it's possible to is now enough to keep me trucking through the bad days. sheesh. even know, it's weird to hear me type like this. strange. things keep moving and going forward. i guess that's what life is all about. hmm. first things first. i would like to publically thank my valentine for the treasures he has bestowed upon me. he must now revel in the glow that he has made a simple girl on the west coast very happy. +++ i have a real date on friday. this will be the second 'official' date of my 21 years of life. and i'm actually excited about it. which is weird because on my first date ever in my first 20 years of life, the poor guy. (we ended up being good friends and roomies later. anyway.) i couldn't even eat when he took me to dinner because i was so nervous. and then we missed the movie because i was late because i got lost. it was a mess. and remember the second boy from my other post? well, he was supposed to take me on my second date, but the whole time before he stood me up, i was trying to think of ways to get out of it. this time, i am looking forward to my date. let's call him J. he's 27. i've never dated a guy that much older before. and he's a college english professor too. he teaches english at a vocational school and a community college while working towards his masters in english. but in grad school he was a film minor, i believe, at ucla. undergrad at ucsb. i don't know how i ended up with such a smart boy. and he's funny and adorable too. anyway, it's just really weird. it's weird because usually i would be either having a panic attack or falling in love right away. the only conclusion i can think of at this moment is that now that i have stopped searching for 'the one' i can relax a bit and have some fun with nice boys without being a dramatic drama queen with the constant bleeding heart. but then again. who knows where the next week will take me. i'm basically trying to keep the mentality that J. is a nice boy (well, i guess he can't be a boy being 6 years older...) and i hope that we can spend time together and share fun times and warm memories. though most of you (who wouldn't be reading this paragraph anyway) probably either delete my posts or just read the first half and get bored...i'll keep you all posted! :) +++ i loved lindseylou's post about valentine's day. well, i always love her posts, but this one especially. i admit that i have read it a few times over and over. i'm sending you a *hug* for a just because. +++ kirsten kenyon posted: > i find my hand jamming a cigarette between my lips instead. > good > move, i think. > the cigarettes. after buying gumdrops at walgreens, i had a > cup of > coffee. i realized that the gumdrops just weren't cutting it. > being > too lazy to trudge three blocks back to walgreen's in the > rain, i > forked over $6.50 for gauloises at some snooty smokeshop with > shiny > floors and leather sofas. > taking into account my current financial state, i should not > be > spending $6.50 on cigarettes. and my lovey matthew posted: > I've looked everywhere. It is now official. This entire city > has run out > of my cigarettes. I'm a bit upset about that. I just don't > know what to > do. i need a cigarette right now actually. i would just like to bitch once about the price of cigarettes. i mean, give an addict a break! kirsten, i usually try to not think about my financial situation before or during the purchase. i find that it helps to contemplate the money spent while enjoying the first drag off the first cigarette AFTER the purchase. does anyone else who smokes suffer from the "i really should quit" thoughts...until you smoke another cigarette and you can't imagine life without the nicotine. it really is a disgusting habit and i don't know if i'm doing a good job trying to romanticise it. err, if i'm doing any job at all. actually, i think i'm discouraging future smokers to not smoke... well, i must go fold laundry now before getting ready for the job. i'm sorry that i didn't make too much sense. i'm not used to being awake this early. i promise the next one will make a bigger effort at it's articulate-ness. my lazy ass is off to work, sara __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Sinister: life is for living and staring at glass
by michelle ruiz 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

I'm tired. Really tired. But on to more important things. Like bakeries! If i knew how to bake really good things except the occasional tea cookie I'd open one up. Old European style bakeries are just about the nicest places. There's a couple I really like to go to. There's a Greek one that when you look at the display case where the food is, in the reflection behind you it seems like you are in Europe on a warm day with the little cars going past. As you can imagine you *do* get stares from the staff because you keep staring at the glass. But it's nice though. Well there's also a bunch of Polish bakeries that have amazing original lamps hanging in their stores that give off a nice orange-ish glow. And the tiles on the floor are quaint. Pay more attention to old tiles and lamps. They can be really interesting at times. Ah I can see it now. Once this B&S scavenger hunt gets going it's going to be the new bowling/picnics. OR there will be bowling with picnics and scavenger hunts afterwards. That actually sounds kinda nice. Spring is a good time for scavenger hunts, seeing as easter eggs are everywhere. And the air is fresher (or maybe not but because everything is green it feels that way). And when the wind blows you can hear the premature leaves rustling. And you can go out with only a sweater on. And of course-the ever elusive easter bunny, hippity hopping his way into our hearts. Yeah Mr. Neil does rock. He seems like the all knowing Belle and Sebastian PR guy. if you post some message talking shit about the band in some way...he'll find out. Oh yes-he will find out. One thing's for sure you don't see any of the Sini types complaining about tickets prices like that. I too am also curious as to who's opening. If they want, at the chicago or detroit gig I can open for the opening act- and entertain the crowd with my Muppet dance impression or maybe recite a poem by Octavio Paz in Spanish or possiblymaybe perform a rendition of 'Mein Herr.' Well it's just a suggestion. Though I am available for birthday parties and bar mitzvahs. (clothe yourself well for the wind) xx michelle xx __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Scooby Driver
by robin stout 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

The whole argument on the Matador site is really funny. And Neil is HARD! I liked this: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ B&S' Management Ticket Prices - Dry Your Eyes Mon Feb 18 12:09:06 2002 62.252.128.5 Anonymous, an apology. You don't like the band. Fair enough. You're still a prick. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Nice one Neil! Scooby said: >i love my car because i drive to and from work listening to b and s >all the time over and over So that makes you a Scooby Driver? Hmmm, where've I heard that before? R _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Always crashing in the same car
by Christina McDermott 21 Feb '02

21 Feb '02

I've been thinking recently about all the places that I've ever had attachments to in my life. There are a lot of them, scattered about here there and everywhere...not just in England, but also in Scotland (seen in my much documented love affair with Glasgow) and also in the USA with my grandmother's house in Florida that I remember going to with my family when I was a kid. I've not been there in years, not since I was 12 but I will forever remember the way it looked in the afternoon sunlight glimmering on the water in the swimming pool, the colour of the condominium complex; a hideous florescent mint green. Everytime I see it in my mind, all these memories come flooding back of the time when I lived in Florida when I was five...my mum teaching me how to tie my shoelaces although I was more interested in watching Teddy Ruxpin on TV, my dad taking me to the local swimming pool and my swimming lessons with my best friend Andrea with me having to be coaxed into the water because I was deadly scared...sitting on the windowsill of my front room and watching the most amazing Florida storm out of the window...the same storm later on the next morning blowing the electric in my house whilst me and my brother were watching "Scooby Doo." Silly things that remind me of being a kid and lead me to sometimes wonder if they really hapenned at all or were just the product of a rather overactive imagination. In Manchester, there always used to be places that I would go to so as to sit and think about things, drink coffee and laugh lots with friends who would look over my A-Level English Lit texts and add their own annotations so that in the exam I would look at that really important part in Richard 3rd and see where my friend Martin had wrote "Innit tho?" next to a speech by Elizabeth/Queen Anne/Add Shakesperean woman character here, they all bloody sound the same in that play. I miss Manchester at timess so much that it aches...and if you knew me, you would know how silly that is. The thing with me is that I don't get homesick. I miss things, people, places...but not so much that I want to grab a train ticket and run back to them asap which is the feeling I've been getting over the past few days. It's not just that I miss my family...I miss really silly feelings and emotions, like getting out of college on a Wednesday afternoon, meeting friends in Cafe Pop and going record shopping or catching a film at the Cornerhouse...or the Northern Quarter on a Sunny day, with everyone sat on the pavement drinking and chatting and LOUD music blaring from all the assorted shops. Maybe this is a feeling which has eminated from being a student, maybe just from being away from the familiar for so long that the novelty of the new place has started to wear off (I doubt that the novelty of London will ever completely wear off for me, its more that it's sheen has tarnished). At first, going back home to Manchester to visit felt like such a chore. I hated it when I went back there to visit during my first reading week. All these old faces I'd attempted to eradicate by moving hundreds of miles away from them all at my door bringing back the things I'd left behind so that I may forget them. Even at Christmas to some extent it still felt that way. Then, a few weeks ago I found out that my dad was seriously ill and I couldn't get home fast enough. It was such solace, so warm and welcoming...I was with the people who understood me and needed me and so Manchester was as comforting as warm arms wrapped around me. Coming back to my other home was such a wrench. I didn't want to leave those who needed me more than London did. London needs me too. My dad is still ill and he will be for a long time to come, but London shields me from the pain of homesickness. It makes me laugh, it makes me forget, it makes me sit in a cafe with friends and look out over rivers at the skyline and realise that I wouldn't be anywhere else in the world. My parents are coming to visit me soon and I want to show them that I'm doing the right thing being here and I'm still accessible to all the people who need me and who I need to be there for me too. It's my nomadic existence realising itself. Neither Manchester or London is truly home, but we all have an agreement, they're different things, like the different sides of me and they appeal to that. An old friend, a new lover...with each place bringing back waves of memories like the words of old love letters, and the smell of biscuits on rainy dawns. Anyway, another week, another Cay epic about her life...apart from the small fact that nothing really has hapenned this week, apart from a shedload of essays and the EndlessCityLights coming second in some Oxford Battle of the Bands thing (out of three bands...but at least we weren't last! Even if one of the judges was very publicly and VERY loudly bitching about us during our set which put me off no end). The band which came in first everyone knew were going to win anyway as they knew all the judges, the judges loved them and one of the guys in the band was something pretty major in the University society putting on the show...bias anyone? But, as the lovely Mr. Carsmile Steve told me afterwards, "It's not the winning that counts, it's the bitching about the band that did win!" (They were shoegazing, schizophrenic, monotone pap by the way..and we were much prettier!) Oh, and RIGHT ON NEIL!!!! for his wonderful post on the Matador list about the bands tour in America/Canada. Even in Britain it's a lot of money to pay to see B&S, but I really don't mind. After all, there's enough of them in the bloody band that my ticket wouldn't even give them enough for a square meal each. And now I've got a wonderful new job as an usher for sixth form History conferences (ok, not so wonderful when you think of all the rampaging hormonal discrepancies...but it's MONEY!) I can buy a ticket to see them in London too! *Woo-hoo!* Someone also mentioned Oxford Interviews-when I had mine, not only did the chair eat me (very hilarious for the people watching...not so for me being eaten...), but I was caught hanging out of the window of my room having a crafty fag by a tutor who was not amused at seeing some mad young eyeliner clad-and-not-much-else-woman hanging out the window of a historical building and sending it into disrepute:- HIM-"Young lady, what do you think you're doing?" ME:- "What does it look like? I'm having a cigarette!" Upon closer deliberation, maybe that combined with my rampant drunkeness and causing a riot being drunk and dragging another drunk person along with me and making lots of noise when letting myself into the college at 3am was the reason I didn't get in....hmmm.... Oh look, it's sunny outside...let's play hopscotch Love and Marlboro lights, Cay Cola-Cube xXx P.S. The ever lovely Archel talked of how perhaps she should have given up ellipses for Lent...you and me both my girl! There are a frankly disgusting amount of them in this post. Nice to see that A in A-Level English Lit going to use then. "If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your Revolution..." -Emma Goldman +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister(a)missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo(a)missprint.org. 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