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Sinister: They shoot Hipsters, don't they?
by funkyseb＠freeuk.com 21 May '99

21 May '99

Hi there Darlin's, This is a hard message for me to write, but please bear with me; I think it's important that anyone who cares about sinister should read it. To start with, I'll make it clear (as if I need to) how much sinister has meant to me for the past 18 months or so. I don't hate you all, I don't want you all to fuck off, and I don't think that everyone on the list is a fake,or a nazi, or both. But there is something deeply wrong with our list. Not many of you will know this, but Sinister is really two lists- the one you're reading, and a second, secret list, where friends of Honey discuss how the list is running, and decide what they should do to make it run the way in the way that they want it to. (i.e. in the way it ran for a few months in 1998, before most of us joined.) This second list is called SOS (save our sinister- clever eh?) and since it's founding 5/6 months ago, the main list has become more and more tired, more repetitive, and lacking the drunken, cheeky swagger that made it so compelling in the first place. Why? Well, because many of the people who used to contribute so much to the real list have joined SOS, and stopped posting to the real list. (I can think of only a couple of exceptions to this rule.) And I can only think that they spend so much time seeing if our posts are up to scratch that they don't have the time to contribute to the list themselves... New sinisterines have told me that they feel they're eavesdropping upon a private conversation, and loads of the great listees that I've loved have felt so ostracised by all this SOS business that they've left Sinister for good. This is how I feel. This is why I'm leaving. I won't stay on a list where a handful of unelected people (fuck it, let's call it what it is...a clique) decide who and what meets their standards, and ridicule and bully those whom they dislike. I've read things from the SOS list, and I've read bulling letters sent by its members, and I hate what I see. I don't like feeling as if I'm writing my posts for their benefit, playing to the gallery, and I don't like watching the list pretending to be what it was instead of accepting that growth and evolution are inevitable. I hate the thought that there are new members out there who are too afraid offend the list's Prefects to risk posting anything new or challenging. A list that looks at itself too closely, and tries too hard to maintain an percieved atmosphere can only end up as a forum for in jokes, and for mutual back slapping. And if this is going to happen, then I don't want to watch. There is a way out. If Honey wanted, he could hold proper elections for the Sinister Parish Council. The councillors could change regularly, and new ideas would percolate like flavour from a tea bag. But I get the feeling, seeing as SOS isn't even officially acknowleged, that our pot's just going to stew. I know that care is needed if we're going to survive. I know that rules are required to keep our very special community vital and enjoyable. But SOS doesn't seem to have done a very good job does it? Face it, when did you last cry with either laughter or gut ripping emotion after reading a post? I'm not saying for a moment that the SOS listees are evil- I know lots of them, and chances are you do too. They're lovely people, very friendly and talented, and that's why I'm not naming them now. But what they're doing, whether actively or passively, is wrong. I hope this letter does make you all ask questions, I hope there is a debate afterwards, and every mail box is flooded, from Glasgow to Thailand. Because this is OUR LIST. We're all indebted to honey for the huge amount of time, risk and work he's put into it, but if the sinisterines are feeling left out, what's the point? If the same old faces are going to say the same old things, and if the kids can't creep out of their loneliness into a warm, loving community, why bother with it all? I hope to keep in touch with you all, and please, if anyone wants a pint, or a picnic, a conversation, or a tape, then just write, you've got my address. But unless democracy rears it's beautiful head on this list once more, I won't be back. As a wise man once said,"Stay lucky". See ya popkids. seb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: England is mine and it owes me a living, so please let me get what I want
by Robert Foster 21 May '99

21 May '99

Crumbs, people replied to something I wrote. Right first off: CALLENDAR R wrote: >My treatment at school, especially Junior school age 7-11, was not particually >pleasant. I was never really beaten up or hit to any degree, but the verbal >abuse and general comments were quite regular, although subtle. I'd have to agree here too. I was never beaten up, but verbal abuse hurts the most. And worst of all after a while you start to believe what they say. Even the teachers weren't very nice (and I mean that). For me it was 7 - 10, when I reached 10 my parents moved and I went to a new school, I was so 'spaced out' and 'on my own (facing inwards)' the teachers thought I had some sort of mental problem, they even thought I was deaf. Anyway, six months later I went to secondary school and they (the teachers) just gave up on me, it wasn't 'till I got to 6th form (and I only got there 'cuz I done some smart talking) that they found out I was dyslexic. I too don't know why they did it, I'm not that ugly, don't talk in a funny way, I dunno! These three years of my life have affected me even to this day. I still see girls and boys as aggressive people. I had to adopt a different way of dealing with things at junior school. I would go to school, get abused and come home and beat my self up thinking it was down to me. when we moved away it was buried but just over a year ago re-surfaced, I still remember the look on my parents faces when I told them that when I was eight I tried to do myself in. Rollerg1rl(a)aol.com (mary) wrote: >the shy and nonshy do have one thing in common though-rejection. I liked this, the idea that the outgoing think the shy don't like them and the shy thinking that the outgoing are too 'in your face' and there fore don't mix with them. You totally right. Right, I'm off to cheer myself up, go down to the local shop, but some beer, come back, listen to the Smiths and think of her. Oh Shit +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Schools Out
by Martin Wilson 21 May '99

21 May '99

"Lets go back to your childhood...childhood...childhood..............................."* Callendar R wrote: "What is it about Belle and Sebastian that make me feel connected again to my school childhood? Do any other B&S fans feel that same connection? And is it in the same way?" I find it incredible that I can identify so easily with the school references in B&S especially as I've not been in one for 21 years. I can't say that they remind me of my own school days which were pretty boring and certainly didn't involve "kissing girls in English at the back of the stairs". It's more like they're an idealised version of what I would have liked school to be like if I could have ordered the world differently. I'd write about this some more but I'm so busy I've lost the plot. Time for another cup of rose pouchong. Martin *There's a Yorkshire Curd Tart prize for whoever correctly identifies the song which begins with this line. -------------------------------------------------------------- "Boo to the business world." -------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister:A bollock and His Ego
by BrnToEnd＠aol.com 21 May '99

21 May '99

Well Hello Kiddies, I have comeback. I unsubscribed awhile ago cos I got too much mail but Then I read the article in Select and then missed this dear old list and By Golly Its Good to be back If You all were here now I'd buy you a round of Milk,Apple Juice and Vodka but My break my heart for I most hold my tounge....Doing Homework at 5 a.m. here -Damon H. Pssst My E-mail adress was WeeChrisBS(a)aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: baby chris is back, friends
by M223CMellan 21 May '99

21 May '99

but hey, I was never really gone. thanks for your 'prayers' - only 1 person mailed me, an I recieved no heavenly visions. oh well.... I've done 4 of my 5 highers so far. they're not very hard. give me a challenge pleeeese!!!!! anyway, I came to my computer this morning only to find 432 mails. bitch. I deleted most of them - it makes you realise just how much crap is mailed here - no offence intended. look, I might be controvercial, but it's the only way to get talked about. for example - GOTHS ARE PRICKS - I honestly believe this - they thing that by waering black and loving the devil that they are being individuals - the hell they are (5 million others are doing exactly the same thing). do what I do -be a 16 year old list baby who listens to truly 'indie' music (none of your major music labels here) and wears kilts and jumpers and cardigans. oh yeah. also ,I was shocked bythe fact that no one had a list crush on me - I thought that everyone loved babies. I had to nominate myself - is this allowed? (the lack of nomination is probably due to my absence). VOTE BABY CHRIS CRYSTALBALLS - the youngest list membereeeee bye baba baby chris CRYSTALBALLS M223CMELLAN(a)holyrood.sch.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Goo to a boose
by Magpie Jay 21 May '99

21 May '99

(spoonerisms never seem to fail) Annie haps, i thought i would add the nose of my muse to the 'shyness' debate that seems to have peered it's curious orange (curse you god for making me this way) head above the edge of the fruit bowl again. >From personal experience, i know what it is to be shy, but i believe i found the reason, and solution to this (at least for me) about two years ago. Having begun life as the school bully, I ended up being the bullied in high school and sort of crawled into my 'please like me- i am nice really ' shell. I think the main cause of shyness is caring too much about what other people think of you, not wanting to offend, say something out of turn or be thought of as boring or weird. Naturally everyone wants people to 'like' them, or think them a worthy addition to their circle, in the company of strangers, or even friends, it can be all to terrryfying to say something that could jeapordise the arc of friendship. Yet in saying nothing it all it becomes difficult for people to get to know you at all. Being shy, lots of people may respect you or think highly of you, but you can lack the closeness or feelings of acceptance other people seem to spin in their sleep, whether actual or gloved empiness. I decided that I had had enough of caring what others thought. If caring so much made me unhappy, then it must surely be 'wrong' or at least not ideal. I have since said things i wanted to say as and when i choose, and vow not to be so pandering to those i want to like me, if they dont want me 'flunk them' . Live for myself, but try not to step on too many toes. While i have realised it has made me a little more arrogant, and maybe a less nice person than i used to be, i have become much more confident, happier, and wouldnt give a rolling fluffy shih-tzu about looking someone in the eye and telling them i dreamed they were a bicycle bell. Sure people may think your weird, but the sorts of people who you are most suited to find you a lot easier, and thats when the friendships fall into place, the second you stop worrying and have faith in yourself. Of course it doesnt help you think of things to say to people, especially strangers, and i can still struggle with that, but i feel less pressure to say anything than i used to, and i like to think that in doing this i rid the world of a few more strands of peppered small talk. i think people generally fancy or aspire to those who appear stronger than them, someone who can help grow them in certain ways (mind-gutter be gone) or attain a strengthening from the bond, someone who can make us 'better' or at least feel improved on as a result of the association. If this is the case though, we would all be looking for people with their sights set higher than us, its just a case of finding the aspects we aspire to in someone, and having something inside us to offer them they lack. I really admire people like Mr Rob Callendar, who can see exactly who they are and where they are from, put themselves in context and get on with enjoying their lives. It takes time for all of us to work out who we are, what we want and where we fit it, but I promise, you'll get there in the end.. I'm going to fly away now before you start throwing 'pretentious wanker' pebbles at me, but my wings dont bruise that much any more. Magpie Jay- up, up and away P.eaS: Dr Pepper tastes of marzipan and makes makes my tongue furry, but at least it doesnt go lime coloured like that icky Mountain dew used to induce. :OF- - http://www.members.tripod.com/john_kerswell/star.html If you really think it will make your life far richer you can..... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: when the boss is away
by Kimberly Rehak 21 May '99

21 May '99

my boss is not here today! i swear i didn't kill her! but this means: i write this email without feeling guilty. i was reprimanded for writing emails during "business hours". and this made me rather pissed because i know that everyone else does this during "business hours" and because i have nothing else to do because all i do is sit on my big arse ("check out he ass on that white girl"--there's a story, i won't expound) and drink diet coke (not dr. pepper) for 8.5 hours oh, and sneak out for a cigarette when i can. well, that was a long bit of nothing. and here's some more: last night was prom night in my town. i managed to avoid all of it, well, except for the limos that drove past my house when i was outside. what a big deal made of nothing. this one girl i knew became aneroxic so that she could fit into her [overly expensive] prom dress. the boy i went to the prom with owned a nusery (well, his parents did) so i got a pissload of flowers. that was the only good thing about that night...but anyway, last night my little brother went to the middle school smei-formal 8th grade dance. my family laughed at me when i suggested what he should wear. they said "like we're going to take fashion advice from YOU hahaha" so i decided to break away like the little dove i am and see if the boy-from-the-coffeehouse-across-town-who-i-have-been-in-love-with-since-last -friday was there. ok, would this be considered stalking? i don't think i've hit the mark yet. i guess i have to find out where he lives, call and hang up, etc. maybe not. either way, he wasn't there :( with all the new peopl loading onto the sinister bus, i have to ask "anyone from pittsburgh?" ****and now the actual posting begins! ian--i loved your little song. i said "hahaha" to it. thanks whoever asked about the skater lingo: make sure you also say "oi!", but definitely say "rad" like you're obsessive compulsive and that's your latest obsession whoever had the wierd dream because they fell aslepp to TWATTYBUS (sorry, i deleted all the posts i read from this morning): i know how it is, buddy. i always have th craziest dreams when i fall asleep to b&s. lsat night i had a pleasant sleep to the tindersticks' "curtains" so irecommend that for you. not that having weird dreams is a horrid night time hobby of mine. in fact, i rather enjoy it when it happens... if i had anything else to say, i've forgotten it. it's taken me so long to type this because i keep getting kicked off the system (computer tantrum--i loved that) so i'm going to go before it happens again. in dire need of a flogging, KIMberly xx ps. anyone bored today: im=rudyrehak icq=39199492 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: new romantics
by ian 21 May '99

21 May '99

oh...i did try and answer everything at once...honest..i'll shut up after this one. lesley: >NO you silly monkey. isobel does not give you stomach ache. i've never >taken st johns wort. all i know is it's sposedta make you fuzzy and happy. well, sort of. it made me manic too. and almost euphoric if i drank at the same time. perhaps that fits the metaphor better. i'll say nothing about isobel being covered in a thin coating of gelatin and put in a plastic container with a piece of cotton wool. oh..too late. >it probably doestn', but it's the thought that counts. and i CLEARLY said >"or whatever" which, in that gen-x hipster moronic fashion, grants automatic >er, flexibility to whatever it qualifies, leaving you free to withdraw >anything stupid you may have said or anything you have doubts about, or if >you're just too SOFT to make a flat statement boldly. right. a clever conversational device which i shall endeavour to remember :) anyway. isobel does >not make sick. it makes you feel fuzzy, like sitting out on a grassy hill >and making daisy chains and drawing pictures of horses. OR getting down >to kinky love in a mirrored chevy van. either one. can i get the cd cheaper on the internet anywhere? anybody know? and how much is the cassette? i ask because i bought TBWTAS cd for 13 quid from tower and then saw the tape for a fiver in hmv. not that i'm tight-fisted or anything :) >someone said Hesse should be read. oh, that would have been me again :) and we have a fellow fan called justin out there. anybody else? i've only read uh DEMIAN, on >recommendation of a pseudo-lady love of mine, but it was bloody amazing. >bollocks. it's totally fabulous. that should be on our sinister reading >club too. it will blow your mind. i want to be in the book club if it happens. i haven't read demian, but steppenwolf is one of the best books i've ever read. the man's writing style is amazing. > i hear Hesse is lumped with the beat(off) generation, but i found nothing in common >with bukowski orkerouac. very spiritual. or maybe he's supposed to have inspired >the beats? well fuck the beats. i'm sorry, but really. i see no similarity between hesse and kerouac. hesse definitely inspired timothy leary. which makes him quite a sound fellow in my book. Well i'm not saying belle and sebby are vapid. but >these days--so much emphasis on cmoputers, and having messages, and >conveying the brutality and nature of society. there's comment in their >music certainly, but overall it just throws aside any seeking to be "modern" >or avant-garde, or shocking. reactionary? i dont know. no, i don't think they're reactionary. the insistence on a melody shouldn't be labelled as reactionary. or if it is, only in the sense that writing books in a recognisable language is reactionary. although they don't widen the scope of what can be defined as "music", and they aren't pushing back generic barriers (which frankly is a load of bollocks anyway..i mean "trip hop" indeed..."a fusion of rap, dance, jazz, whatever label you like to throw at it"...well, what exactly did that achieve then?) they're doing what they do damn well, without following any prescribed musical fashion. to me, there's only so far the avant garde can go. we've had yoko screaming her way through "plastic ono band" (twenty years ago)....we've had trent reznor and his clicking noises and scrapey sounds that he says constitute music (and i'm not denying the man's ability) and they're probably right. in the same way that manzoni canning his own shit and selling it as "art" was right. but they've made the point. after that, to a large extent, you're just going to be treading the paths of people before you. although there's nothing wrong in that. bjork seems to manage it without sounding hackneyed, but she's not as ground breakingly original as people like to paint her. to quote chumbawamba in their pre-sell-out days "pour me another double cliche you can't write a song that's never been sung" maybe that's a bit defeatist. although its an excellent excuse for sampling. but eventually you have to go back to music for music's sake...not to say that its got to vanish up its own arse...the swaggering anthems of the manics spring to mind ("yeah...its about the spanish civil war...how noone cared" really? i can't imagine why) that would be reactionary. and its worrying that the likes of catatonia, stereophonics and the manics are being pushed as some sort of example of innovative music with their made-for-stadium rock with occasionally observant lyrics. wow...i'm beginning to sound like i've vanished up my own arse, what i was really trying to say is that belle and sebastian seem to be exploring their own way within an established framework. they're not posturing as musical revolutionaries, but so often it seems that the musical revolutionaries were only posturing all along (remember the sex pistols' reunion?). what they are doing is turning out songs that connect with people. they are one of the few bands that can engage my mind whilst making me feel smiley inside. and just by doing so they're making a statement. add to this the fact that they make music for people who wobble somewhere between non-conformity and extinction (speaking solely for myself, of course :) ) and they're serving far more of a social purpose than any new romantic ever did. i mean, could duran duran really have staked a claim to being anything other than a bunch of posturing tossers? but maybe you're all thinking the same thing about me. and i have rambled somewhat and gone WAY off my original intention for this email. so i'll just go and have that cup of tea now and shut my face :) ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: £
by Martin Wilson 21 May '99

21 May '99

JJ wrote "Perhaps. I agree with Dog on Wheels, but I paid 1.99 for the LLPJ eps (bought 3, for friends), 1.99 for 3,6,9 (bought 3, for friends), and MRS was a staggering 1.97 (bought 3, for friends) in Music Zone in the all-new singing and dancing Trafford Centre." I would dearly like to know how HMV can justify charging £5 for the B&S EPs in broken boxes when Track, our local indie shop in York charges only £4.50 for them in perfect condition. I suspect that the vast difference in prices has something to do with the fact that huge record companies can give discounts and take loss leaders whilst Jeepster's profits all go on feeding the office cat. Other industries have had their legs smacked for this kind of thing (undermining competition - not feeding the cat) but I suspect the chances of it happening in the music biz are inversely proportional to the number of pop stars at Tony Blair's cocktail parties. (Ooh bit of politics creeping in there). Anyway, what I really want to know is do they still sell edible dormouse in the butchers in the Trafford Centre? Yum! Martin -------------------------------------------------------------- "Boo to the business world." -------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Shyness is nice and shyness can stop you....
by Graham MacArthur 21 May '99

21 May '99

Hello dolls I was introduced to the mayor (not major) of Hertford last night, very formally, with my name announced by someone who looked like a beefeater minus the beef, and somewhere, with my nerves going crazy, I said "Hiya". I SAID HIYA TO THE MAJOR. oh dear. Why didn't i listen to everyone else when they said "good evening mr major". why? gah. My embarassment was consoled with ten tables of minatre food. I didn't eat all ten tables of it, obviously. Ten plates, maybe. Mind you, if i wasn't on the youth council, i wouldn't have an excuse to talk to random skateboys about my proposals to open a skatepark. I haven't said anything to them yet, i'm choosing my moment. I don't really know how best to talk to them, should i litter words like "rad" "old skool sick" "ollie" into the conversation? Rob Callendar said: >Unfortunately those that do approach me I do not fancy myself. The best >method for a shy boy to talk to a potential partner or friend is to get one >of your friends to go and get the person you like. It saves alot of time. >Happened to me last night. I'm not mocking you, but wasn't it great when you used to be able to just get one of your mates to say "my friend fancies you" and the rest was history? It was so easy. I regularly used to be asked out at primary school without evening talking to the person, they just used to stand five metres away squirming while their mate came up with a big grin on their face, ready to pop the question! and it was ace! and you'd always say yes, and then if you found out you didn't like them, you could always share your walkers with someone else until they got the message. Mind you, primary school wasn't all sweetness and light for me, i was always too tall to dance with the boys at the 6pm end of term discos. So i used to go solo, you know, shaking my bit, to the hit, so the teachers wouldn't look at me *that way* if I was standing on the sidelines, gazing longling at simon lawrence (school stud). >How do you get together with people you fancy? If i knew the answer to that question, i'd probably wouldn't be writing this. Or i'd be writing it telling you what to do. With the last person I *thought* I fancied, i simply engineered it so we would be in the same place at the same time and got talking to them. But then crushboy turned into normalboringboy and i'm left without anyone to swoon over. Which is getting v.boring.. Erica xxx (who is busing wearing mini-skirts, going ice-skating, watching horror movies and believing her horoscopes under Arantxa's instruction. Because you're only young once, and i'm not going to stay inside listening to wimpy pop records all day). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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