October 1997 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: top10
by stinger 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

stinger wrote: 1. Dylan in the Movies (U.S. promo only edit) 2. Electronic Renaissance (Flood remix) 3. Stars of Track and Field (Jessie Owens Memorial Gold Medal Version) 4. Ink Polaroids (the musical) 5. Supersonic 6. She Came Through the Bathroom Window 7. Photo James (Rear Window Version) 8. The Thoughts of Mary Jane 9. Signed D.C. 10. As yet unnamed composition (something Stuart sang to me over the phone) Just kidding. Don't mean to be a jerk but I think it's sort of cheesy to name unrealesed songs in your top 10. It's certainly your decision but what's the point? Other than to let other people know that you have them and they don't. I have a tape with unreleased tracks too but that doesn't mean I'm a bigger fan it just makes me lucky. So here's my "all's fair in love and domesticity top 10 1. Me and the Major 2. The State I Am In 3. She's Losing It 4. Belle and Sebastain 5. Stars of Track and Field 6. The Fox in the Snow 7. Judy and the Dream of Horses 8. A Century of Fakers 9. Seeing Other People 10.She's Losing It ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: LET'S GET ONE THING STRAIGHT
by J.E.Higgott 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

Thanks for clarifying that one but has noone perhaps realised that 'Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie' could be a wry social comment. A Pastie is associated with Cornish miners. It is very much a working class snack. If the pastie in 'Le Pastie...' is such an object (and the French do make all words imported from English masculine which would explain the 'Le') then there could be a thinly veiled meaning to do with the Marxist belief that Communism is the inevitable future of society. Bourgeois ruling class eating working class food indicates an equality of the classes that, according to Marxism, cannot fail to happen one day. Hence, 'Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie' Or perhaps it's a spelling error for 'La Patsy de la Bourgeoisie' Or perhaps it's just a title. Oh well ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Seymour Stein
by Miche�l O'Dwyer 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

Seeing as 'Seymour Stein' is making a few appearances in people's top tens, I was wondering about the vocalist on this. I seem to remember reading that this was one of the songs recorded for the last radio session. Well, at the Barcelona gig, I am certain that Stevie took lead vocalist duties for this song (and a damn fine job he did of it too). I seem to remember a line that went something like "...said I reminded him of Johnny from the Smiths". So who sang on the radio session version? And are there any other recorded tracks featuring different lead vocalists (besides Century of Elvis)? And does anybody know the song that Isobel sang in Barcelona? And does anybody from Spain know if the cameras present meant that the gig was going to be broadcast on TV at a future date? Oooh... So many questions, and not a top ten in sight (I'm still waiting on my copy of 3,6,9..) Mick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Re: <no subject>
by mlang＠inch.com 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

> a vast crowd that includes the Beatles, the Tindersticks, Nick Drake, the >Smiths, Paul Simon, and the Lovin' Spoonful. > > Paul Simon? Where did that one come from? anyone got any thoughts? Paul Simon is a huge influence on Belle and Sebastian, and I credit this reviewer for pointing it out. Paul Simon is a storyteller, a narrator and Belle and Sebastian songs are full of narratives of a similar feel... I feel like this puts them very lyrically influenced by Paul Simon. Nick Drake's lyrics seem more full of self reflection and pictures being painted. I am sitting here listening to the new Paul Simon record, songs from his upcoming musical, "The Capeman" and some of these songs move me in exactly the same way that Belle and Sebastian does. I urge you all to drop any prejudices you may have, and give this record a listen when it comes out next month. One of my favorite moments on IYFS, is "the snow is falling" section at the end of Me and the Major which to me is more reminiscent of Paul Simon than anyone else. Of course, when you discuss artists that began recording in the mid sixties, like Bob Dylan, the Beatles, and Paul Simon, their influences are so ingrained in every thing we listen to that it does become a bit blurry. Sorry to go on and on but the timing of this post coinciding with what I was listening to spurred me on. matrix ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Le Pastie de la Bourgeousie
by Keith Watson 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

It appears that what Stuart means by this is not actually what it translates to. Oh well. Stand at the back of the class Murdoch! However, we all know from previous postings that what it's meant to mean is that Le Pastie de la Bourgeousie is roughly translated as "The Apathy of the Upper Class" (This phrase is turning out to be cliched in the same league as "The troubled mir space station") Which does rather tie in with the themes in the song. On a different note: Having a B+S meeting on 1st Nov at the Egg in Edinburgh, at least, Pam from Washington is coming across, so if Nathan, John, Paul or indeed anyone else wants to come along, we'll meet up... In fact... I'll probably be spewing up... Well, it's only a quid 50 a pint! So it's not my fault. Cheers, Keith. [However - Le Pastie de la Boulangerie provided me with many laughs!] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: B&S interview on Radio one.
by Andrew Dean 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

Sinister: B&S interview on Radio one. >ben ferneyhough (bferneyhough(a)brookes.ac.uk) >Wed, 22 Oct 1997 13:26:08 +0100 (BST) >My heart just skipped a beat then, when B&S, well Chris and >Sarah, were interviewed on 'The Net' radio 1 news programme >just about a minute ago. um, just to add that 'the net' is repeated two or three times during the day so there's still a chance to catch the repeat. i thought it was on the website in real audio format too but couldn't find it. and there's nothing worth reading under the news pages although that may not have been updated yet. a transcription appears on bbc teletext though, under the 560 music pages i think but again you may have to wait a while. i'll forward it if i see it. thinking about it, the first couple of eps were both reviewed extensively on teletext but the current one hasn't been. the first two were both mentioned in 'the face' too. could this all be down to the confusion over release dates? andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Promo ideas
by Charlotte.Hall＠smlawpub.co.uk 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

It needs to be something quirky and something which would be anathema to "the starmaker machinery behind the popular song". I bought a BMX bandits record once (shhh!) which had a little cartoon strip inside and someone had handwritten in pen on my copy "I love you very very much". I liked the personal element of this. I guess BMX Bandits sold a lot less records than B&S are going to be selling ... maybe it would be wholly impractical! Here are some other ideas. 1. Bring back seventies car stickers! ELO did it, why not B&S? There should be a B&S sticker in the back of every car in the kingdom. 2. Willy Wonka style "Golden CDs", 500 of which (e.g.) have a ticket inside entitling the holder to a trip to, er, the Grosvenor Cafe... 3. Free flowers with every purchase. 4. Free tickets for next B&S gig. 5. Lifetime membership of Rolf Harris fan club. 6. "Introduce a friend" discounts and bonus system. 7. That's all. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re[2]: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian on the television, singing l
by 95516123＠csunt2.napier.ac.uk 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

>Oh god, no! Can you imagine Jules Holland playing his bleedin' boogie >woogie piano along to Seymour Stein! Aaaaagh.... doesn't >even bear thinking about. I would say that it beats 1000 pre-pubescent girls screaming along with it, pretending to have heard of B&S before. The Archdeacon of Pop ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.1 Enterprise) id 00019DE8; Tue, 21 Oct 97 18:16:50 +0000 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA03854 for sinister-outgoing; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:37:35 +0100 Received: from brimstone.uk.uu.net (brimstone.sci-park.uunet.pipex.com [194.130.2.20]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA03850 for <sinister(a)majordomo.net>; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:37:33 +0100 Received: from tesco.unipalm.pipex.com by brimstone.uk.uu.net (8.6.12/PIPEX simple 1.22) id RAA22409; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:37:51 +0100 Received: by tesco.unipalm.pipex.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BCDE46.ACC993E0(a)tesco.unipalm.pipex.com>; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:27:58 +0100 Message-ID: <01BCDE46.ACC993E0(a)tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> From: Nigel Turner <nigelt(a)uk.uu.net> To: "sinister(a)majordomo.net" <sinister(a)majordomo.net> Subject: RE: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian on the television, singing la la la la.... Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:27:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Nigel Turner <nigelt(a)uk.uu.net>

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Re: Sinister: LET'S GET ONE THING STRAIGHT
by J M F 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

...then there could be a thinly veiled meaning to do with the Marxist belief that Communism is the inevitable future of society. Bourgeois ruling class eating working class food indicates an equality of the classes that, according to Marxism, cannot fail to happen one day The pivotal words being... Come on, it's not nice to suggest B&S are that dim. John

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RE: Re[2]: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian on the television, singing l
by Nigel Turner 22 Oct '97

22 Oct '97

>Oh god, no! Can you imagine Jules Holland playing his bleedin' boogie >woogie piano along to Seymour Stein! Aaaaagh.... doesn't >even bear thinking about. >I would say that it beats 1000 pre-pubescent girls screaming along with it, pretending to have heard of B&S before. I wouldn't... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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