September 1997 - Sinister

Re: Sinister: Matt H's thoughts on B&S
by David & Katrina 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

The problem with the bootleg argument seems solely set on one point, "Are Belle and Sebastian intending to re-release Tigermilk?". Sadly the only people that honestly know the answer are the band and they're not letting on. I think that this has more to do with the fact that they may not want old material to clash with new material. Especially as their new material is so good. It's hypocritical, but even though I desperately want Tigermilk re-issued, I don't want to slow down the recording or release schedule of new material. This would inevitably happen if Tigermilk were released again. And surely even in the states where Tigermilk was never released you'd still like to see the first major release on a new label to be new material, even in the form of the singles album plus additional tracks like 'modern rock song'. Ah, it's an impossible debate, we are all protective of them and we all want Tigermilk re-issued, and there'll never be such thing as a quiet re-issue of it. What are we to do, eh? David (my opinions do NOT reflect or come from Jeepster, please don't mingle them, the Jeepster opinion is from Mark Jones and my girlfriend's - and we bicker enough already!) -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/belleandsebastian.htm mailto:d.kitchen@virgin.net ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Domain membership of list
by Yummycats＠aol.com 24 Sep '97

24 Sep '97

In a message dated 97-09-23 14:32:10 EDT << >Someone tell me - can you *get* Belle and Sebastian material in all these >countries, and how did people hear about them? >> Rolling Stone on America OnLine had a standout review of Sinister, providing a few sound samples. A few weeks later, after searching in recordstore after recordstore, I finally found a copy. But it's terribly unfair that the new e.p.'s haven't been released here in the U.S. They're not even in the import shops. It's very frustrating to not be able to find your favorite music. I thought about ordering them directly from Jeepster, but I'm not even sure that's possible. I can't even find their address (not printed on the us edition of Sinister). (sigh). yummycats ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Re: Bootlegs
by MWaggner＠aol.com 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

I have to agree with what seems to be shaping up as the majority opinion on the "bootleg" issue. I have just heard a tape of Tigermilk and it is lovely -- I like the acoustic feel of some of the songs, and the simplicity I guess I'd call it, compared to ... Sinister. However, dub quality is usually less than wonderful, and it would be great to have a cleaner copy. I read the first mailing about putting Tigermilk on CD not as a bootlegging venture, but as a way to exchange copies (as is being done on tape) in a cleaner, more listener-friendly format. In any event, if the band does not intend to re-release the album then they would not be losing any money at all if people are exchanging (or even selling) CD copies. I would hazard a guess that most people who might purchase a "bootleg" copy would indeed buy any eventual re-release as well. Especially if it had an added track, as is suggested elsewhere. Look at all the people who buy both the vinyl and CD of releases by bands they like -- do bands release on vinyl expecting that it is going to other than a collectors item for most people? It's a marketing decision because people will buy the vinyl AND the CD. I would never buy a bootleg version of a regularly released album -- but there are bootlegs I will buy if that is the only way to get the material. I would much prefer that the artist get the money him/her self, but if the artist has made the choice to pass on making that money... I don't feel wonderful about it, but my curiousity usually gets the best of me. Let's all just beg B&S to re-release Tigermilk and end this whole debate. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Best Freudian Slip Ever? (was: Spiritualized)
by Clint Barnes 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

"Before a cyber-brawl breaks out, please let me explain myself... I did not, nor would I ever, call Jason Scumbag a Spaceman. I like his band..." I do this all the time during meetings. Once, I meant to tell my boss that she had a good idea, but for some reason I blurted out that she had great legs. B&S tie in... let me think... oh yeah, another time I was explaining how wonderful the band is to a coworker, and I told her my favorite song was 'Dog in Heels'. I almost corrected myself immediately but then I looked down and, yep, this lady was wearing high heels. Argh! -Clint ____________________________ clint barnes Electronic Publishing clbarnes(a)cisco.com (408) 526-8379 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: seconds of light
by superbob 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

could someone tell me please when the new release date of the new single e.p. or whatever it's called is. i know it got changed but i forgot. thanks. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Barcelona gig review
by Alan 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

erm, i think the actual reference might possibly be about the film "don't look back" filmed by DA pennebaker, a B. Dylan tour film... sorry for being pedantic, but i thought it was quite obvious... love, alan > It all went by so fast I can't really remember the set list, most of > which I didn't recognise anyway. They did "Dylan in the Movies", which > has always been one of my least favourite songs because it reminds me > of...well, Dylan in the movies, namely the terrible film....whoops, > can't find my Dylanology books...I think it's called "Streets of Fire" > or something equally ludicrous. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Compo
by Andrew O'Sullivan 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

This one is of a group of us in a little tavern behind New College. We don't look really *happy*, but that's just because we've only just met, at a record fair half an hour earlier, and we're all a little confused. Little Soozy is pointing at someone and looking very impressed but a little scared. She won't tell us who he is, but she probably fancies him anyway. The wasp under the glass on the table is not dead; the barman in the background with the blue hair and tie is the one who will soon enough lift up the glass and give the insect its freedom again. He nearly got stung while lifting up the glass, and walked off muttering something. The kitchen window in the top left is where the nice smells, which make us a little more relaxed, are coming from. The sign next to the window has writing too small to be made out here, but the general message was that the pub has never hosted funeral receptions of major rock 'n' roll legends. I don't think we were meant to understand - it's probably an in-joke. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Spiritualized
by Skreddy56＠aol.com 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

<< and is 12.99 overly expensive?? I paid 12.99 for my If You're Feeling Sinister CD. >> I do believe they were referring to the 12 cd box of the album which went for the equivalent of $120. As for the Tigermilk bootlegging problem, all that Jeepster needs to do is put on a demo or a live song or something and everyone will go buy it again even if they already had a good CD copy. That's my 2 cents. By the way, when does the Ink Poloroid contest end? Today I learned that international money orders cost upwards of $7.50, so I'm going to try my hand at winning a shirt before I plunk down over 25 dollars on one (that's about L17 or 125FF, for those of you not familiar with American currency). --Matt ps- Ben-- got your tape the other day and yours is winging it's way to you now. Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Spiritualized
by oc245d8aff＠colon.net 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

Before a cyber-brawl breaks out, please let me explain myself... I did not, nor would I ever, call Jason Scumbag a Spaceman. I like his band, I liked his old band, I do a really good impersonation of Sonic Boom. On the odd occasions that I pass through Rugby on the train I always look for their old house on Railway Terrace. i don't know why I picked on their inventive packaging to criticise. It might as well have been the special gold edition of "The Piano" soundtrack. I only wanted to make a typically dubious point about demand and supply. I don't usually abuse people, I think this little misunderstanding was the result of flying fingers annd brain on the blink. Can I get off the naughty chair now? Having said all that, I do favour traditional CD packaging, anything else just messes up your CD shelf and gets all scuffed and knackered anyway. The most ludicrous example I own, both musically and otherwise, is the super gatefold edition of "Space Ritual" by Hawkwind, complete with rubbish sci-fi stories and pictures of rude dancers. Should I get back on the naughty chair for admitting that? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: songs for today. (chords)
by .j 0n 23 Sep '97

23 Sep '97

hello nice people of the b+s list, 1) 'this is just a modern rock song' D A this is just a modern rock song this id just a sorry lament G D we're four boys in our corduroys were not perfect but were D-> competent.. D/A/G/D this progession runs through-out the whole song.. 2) 'we rule the school ' C G F C on a beech tree rudely carved, NC was here F C G Why did she do it was she scared, was she bored? ------------------------------------------------ lovely lovely song..*sigh* so um....anyone else got any ideas... ?? bye bye jon (of glasto poem..blah blah..) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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