September 1997 - Sinister

Sinister: Enclave belly up...
by OLDSCHREC＠aol.com 20 Sep '97

20 Sep '97

It's no wonder Enclave went under... "If You're Feeling Sinister" has only sold 9,000 copies... Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Dog On Wheels
by Mike Longaphie 20 Sep '97

20 Sep '97

Did anyone else notice that the middle break in "Dog On Wheels" sounds sneakingly famillar to a Love song? I think it may be "A House Is Not A Motel", but I'm not quite sure. Of course it's still a great song, so who cares. mike ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Bootlegging Tigermilk
by Jeepster Recordings Ltd 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

> alright. here's the deal. > my dad is one of those computer guru types who has all this stuff that > i know nothing about. so he informs me that he has a "cd burner" > that can record onto a cd. fancy that.he said he could hook it up to > something or other and i could record vinyl or anything i want onto a > blank cd. > so here's my offer. blank cds cost about 10-12 us dollars a piece (so > he says)...if anyone wants to record me a very good quality copy of > tigermilk, from the original, not a dub of a dub, and mail it to me so > i can get me a copy on cd, then in return i will record you a copy > onto cd as well at no charge and then mail it back to you at my > expense. all you would pay is price of the blank tape and a stamp to > get it to me. > (maxell XL2). > if anyone would like to take me up on this, please let me know. > -brad superbob wrote: > hey. i think there's been sort of a misunderstanding. when i said i > was gonna make me and whoever sent it to me a cd of tigermilk, i > didn't mean i was available for more than those two copies. i don't > want to get into the whole bootlegging thing because a)it's illegal > and b)it wouldn't be very nice to b & s. i see nothing wrong with > making a couple. it's like making a dub, except on a flat disc instead > of tape. > and i did it on a first come basis, and the guy that responded first > is who i'm doing it with. so everyone can stop responding now. i've > already set it up. > on another note...if you really want a copy on cd, i know of at least > two guys in my town who put things on cd for a price. one owns a > record store and charges thirteen bucks. the other owns a studio and > charges thirty bucks. i'm not saying for everyone to write me and ask > me to take copies to these guys, i'm saying check around your own > town. believe me, my town is not big (south georgia), so if there are > two in my town, there's gotta be some everywhere. > just check around. > > -brad Or rather, if you'd prefer not to be taken to court, don't. Jeepster have absolutely no reservations about taking legal action against anyone who illegally copies any Belle and Sebastian recordings and makes them available for sale. Please be aware of this, it is not meant to threaten, but such laws were created for a reason - to protect the bands interests. We are already looking into a person selling bootlegged "Tigermilk" CD-R's from Europe, yes, we are serious. "Tigermilk" WILL be re-released at some stage. Even though it will not have the same artwork, the songs will be the same, and it will be made available on other formats as well as LP. This may not happen for some time, however, they play Barcelona this weekend, there is a new EP released next month, the possibility of another EP being released before the end of the year, a new LP next January/February, a live date in Paris in November, live dates in Manchester in December, Germany and the West Coast and maybe even the East Coast of the US next spring, and then even more new recordings after that. Why dwell on the past while this band are one of the most prolific acts of our time? Wait until "Tigermilk" is re-released, and spend your time (and hard-earned money) in the meantime on their new recordings and live extravaganzas. The risk really isn't worth it. Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: sorry
by superbob 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

hey. i think there's been sort of a misunderstanding. when i said i was gonna make me and whoever sent it to me a cd of tigermilk, i didn't mean i was available for more than those two copies. i don't want to get into the whole bootlegging thing because a)it's illegal and b)it wouldn't be very nice to b & s. i see nothing wrong with making a couple. it's like making a dub, except on a flat disc instead of tape. and i did it on a first come basis, and the guy that responded first is who i'm doing it with. so everyone can stop responding now. i've already set it up. on another note...if you really want a copy on cd, i know of at least two guys in my town who put things on cd for a price. one owns a record store and charges thirteen bucks. the other owns a studio and charges thirty bucks. i'm not saying for everyone to write me and ask me to take copies to these guys, i'm saying check around your own town. believe me, my town is not big (south georgia), so if there are two in my town, there's gotta be some everywhere. just check around. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: badges
by terry undewear 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

I have worn my enamel badge on my school uniform since school started and (no doubt the creator was aware of this) they have exactly the same shape and appearance as the badges that school prefects or monitors wear. On a daily basis people come up to me and say 'are you like head boy or something?' and then they actually look and go 'what the fuck does that mean?' It's very amusing. I tell them that I'm in the special division of the school council which deals with all matters regarding old tv shows and splendid pop bands. Maybe some of them believe me... Two people have actually at least feigned recognition of the band. Who said private skool wasn't cool? love will ps say hi to the nation of will at www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/7509 'i know what people say, im a heartbreaker, thats just my way.' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: thanks to all who responded...
by Amanda Bergman 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

to my inquiry about a _Tigermilk_ dupe. It was really quite refreshing to have so many people express their interest in helping me so quickly. But then, we're all B&S fans (a rather civilized group, I should think) so I suppose it all makes perfect sense. And now I can turn my attention to procuring my own copies of those EPs that have thus far eluded me (even though I've heard that they pale in comparison to _If You're Feeling Sinister_). Again, thank you. Take care, Amanda ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Compo
by Kelso 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

Okay, well here's my stab at the ink polaroids contest....I would love those posters...sigh: Polaroid I. Look, these are a year and a half old already! Ben and I are in a record shop. We?re flipping through the seven inches. He?s smiling; Ben is always smiling. That's part of his dashing character. He?s pointing out a new single from some Detroit space rock band. He looks fine and slim in his orange Spiny Anteaters t-shirt. He has never ever worn a collared shirt in my presence. I am wearing my brown corderoy jacket. I am not smiling, but I am not scowling either. I guess best put would be to say that I look somewhat melancholy, reflective, preoccupied. I remember that I was rather distracted and though I am holding it, I am not really aware of the Tullycraft single I?ve picked up. II. Here we are standing on the street in front of Ben?s car. It is a silly little white sports coupe. It is nitetime and St. Mark?s Place is a charming blur of activity and lights in the background. Speaking of lights, the streetlamp overhead is terribly bright and has all but washed out Ben?s face, but I know that he was still smiling. Ben is always smiling. He has a brown sack full of new records under one arm; my hand is in his left hand. As for me, my bleachy bangs are all in my face. I guess I will probably never see my hair?s natural colour again. If you look close, you can see tears coming up in my eyes. III. Oh dear, Ben and I are kissing! This is not a positive sign, though. We are in his car now. This is when we broke up for good. Just prior to the kiss I asked him why we were spending so many months pretending to be in love, when it was obvious that he would be happier to just be best friends. I remember exactly what he said, ?I?m ashamed because I should be in love with you, but being in love just isn?t important to me.? Then we broke up, but had one last kiss for the road, to prove we would stay on as best friends. If you look really close at this polaroid, you can see tears streaking my cheeks. there you go, sorry to have bored any of you--- Kelso Jacks NYC ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Compo
by Stuart Gardiner 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

Ink Polaroids Compo entry; (OK it's probably rubbish, but it's the best I could come up with...) "This one was taken in one of the local clubs. That's me standing on the stage, in the white shirt. Yeah, I know my haircut back then was pretty awful, but we all make mistakes. Anyway, there was a hypnotist performing in the club that night, and I'd had a few drinks, so I thought I'd volunteer for a laugh. And because I thought it would impress some girl I was interested in at the time. Like I said, I'd had a few drinks... The bloke doing it did say he couldn't have anyone onstage who'd been drinking, but there's no way anyone would go up there sober, is there? "The reason I'm dressed like that is because every time he stamped his foot, I had to run over to a bag and put another tie on. I think I had about ten on by the end. I wasn't really hypnotised or anything, but it was good fun so I played along. I guess everyone must be doing the same at these things. I know it doesn't look like it, but I was supposed to be dancing when this was taken. That's what the umbrella was for, he was playing "Singing In The Rain" and I got up and danced. It's a good job my mate didn't take this photo ten seconds later, because while I was doing it I fell off the stage. Next morning I had this huge bruise on my left arm. So much for impressing women. "That one sitting down behind me on the stage, in the red dress, was a really good laugh actually, I was chatting to her for a bit while the hypnotist was getting things sorted out. She seemed quite nervous, she'd never done anything like this before. I've no idea what she's doing there, I didn't notice that at the time. The bloke next to her seems to be enjoying it though!" Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: misc stuff
by Andrew Dean 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

century of elvis: i'm surprised they did '...elvis' instead of '...fakers' at the pbs taping. actually, i'm just jealous, i doubt they'd ever do it again. was elvis at the gigs?: elvis couldn't have been at the gigs - he'd've been in quarantine... old people at the gigs: and did anyone else noticed the young boy that was at sunday's gig? i think i saw him at one of the scottish gigs as well so i'm wondering if he's some relation of one of the band members. will have to ask him next time... pbs broadcast: the bloke asking about this seemed to be confused. the pbs taping was done specially for the tv in a studio(?) and was different from the two concerts. that said, there was a bloke with a video recorder upstairs at the sunday gig so i guess that got taped as well. oh, bloke in comic shop on monday after spotting my badge: "is that your dog?". what do you say? do you stand there for 10 minutes explaining belle and sebastian and dog on wheels or what? radcliffe: the thing i missed about radcliffe when he moved to mornings was the lack of guests and i think the guests helped fill the program up whereas mark and lard on their own struggle. add to that the playlist restrictions and the lack of swearing and stuff and the morning shows were, and i quote, 'a shed'. oh, peel played some delgados last night, said there was some sort of delgados sessions lp coming out. which is nice. i'll stop now. andy oh, and katrina, 'scotchtober fest' was a ploy by principal skinner to tempt bart simpson into committing an expellable offence. it seemed to entail groundskeeper willy dancing in a kilt on a barrel with a large glass in each hand. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Oxford Zodaic Review from ages ago !!!
by ben ferneyhough 19 Sep '97

19 Sep '97

Dear all, after a long wait, Nightshift (the local gig guide magazine here in Oxford) have reviewed the B&S gig. This review didn't appear in the hard copy (i.e. the paper copy), as B&S objected to them using a photo, and also the review was too long !! The actual website is, for those who want to see it in it's entirety (it's a good site): http://www.oxlink.co.uk/nightshift/sept97/live_5.html BELLE & SEBASTIAN The Zodiac Question: What's got sixteen legs, eight heads and the voice of an angel; rarely appears in public but when it does causes panic and desperation of biblical proportions? The answer, of course, is Belle & Sebastian, an unassuming, publicity-shy pop group from Glasgow who have, in the space of two short years and two discreetly classic albums, achieved legendary status among the ranks of the country's gentle-hearted romantics and fey, dysfunctional outcasts. The scenes outside the Zodiac beggared belief. Two hundred punters from out of town queuing for an hour to get in because they'd all booked their tickets by phone and had to endure the credit card processing rigmarole. Their's is the panic - will they get inside before the band come on? The desperation is on the faces of another two hundred people who, with no chance of getting in, still queue up, hoping for a miracle. And miracles can happen. How else do you explain the unheralded triumph of pop beauty over the ugly lad zeitgeist? The world needs Belle & Sebastian even if they don't seem to need the world. On the face of it it's all so unimposing. One pretty, late twenty-something boy with an acoustic guitar surrounded by a ramshackle troupe of musicians that include a cellist and a trumpeter as well as two keyboardists mounted on a platform in the middle of the hall because there's no more room on stage. The music is so gentle it could evaporate in a club setting like this (they're more accustomed to playing in libraries and cafes) but Stuart Murdoch's gentle, folky voice holds the audience in something approaching rapture. He sings tender songs for pale, skinny people who treat him with genuine reverence. It hardly matters that Belle & Sebastian refuse to play a `greatest hits' set. Aside from a couple of new songs, as yet unreleased, everyone knows all the obscure stuff anyway. So much so that when Stuart messes up the beginning of `State I Am In' the crowd are singing the words for him. And this is no `Wonderwall' anthem; instead it's a fragile lullaby with a convoluted story of confusion and angst in the mould of Nick Drake or Felt and perhaps the most beautiful song written since `Northern Sky'. Belle & Sebastian's influences are many and varied and crop up throughout their set, from Love to Simon & Garfunkel to The Smiths. Yes, it's folk-pop but it's much much more. New single, `Lazy Line Painter Jane' is the one great song that The Beautiful South never wrote, and if the comparison makes you balk, don't let it, it's more the way Stuart's voice contrasts with that of guest singer, Monica Queen, from Thrum, while its rising crescendo of 60s organ chime takes it closer to the more melodic side of the Velvet Underground. At the opposite end of the scale there is the jazzy instrumental of `Tigermilk' before cellist/tambourinist Isobelle takes over vocal duties for the country-tinged `It's Wicked Not To Care', perhaps the only song ever to feature a glockenspiel solo. The way that every softly played, carefully crafted song is greeted by rapturous applause that's twice the volume of the music is bizarre but they seem neither fazed by such adulation nor do they play up to it. They're happy to potter about, tuning up or swapping instruments as if in a bedroom rehearsal, before sheepishly announcing `Another new one'. There may well be many out there who will see Belle & Sebastian as the start of the rebirth of wimp-pop while others might dismiss them as an anomalous throw-back to 60s folk whimsy. These people have no souls. So blinded by a haze of ugliness (did anyone else feel physically sick at the sight of John Power on the front cover of Melody Maker last month?) that they fail to see real beauty when it blooms. What a rosebud is to a garden, so Belle & Sebastian are to pop music. Wake up and smell the blossom. Dale Kattack There is a Belle & Sebastian mailing list. To subscribe, send a message to: majordomo(a)majordomo.net with the text 'subscribe sinister' in the body of the message. So there you go, if you do get to this stage of this mail, I hope you enjoyed reading it. Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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