September 1997 - Sinister

RE: Sinister: star wars
by Keith Watson 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

Hi, Seems B&S are fans of Star Wars - cos in 'Le Pastie...' Stuart sings something about 'draw your light sabre.' Or possibly not. [Keith Watson] Well last Christmas, Chris was wearing a Star Wars T-Shirt at a New Year party I was at in Edinburgh. And another cover version I'd quite like to hear them do would be 'Teenage Kicks.' Aren't Cast shit? [Keith Watson] Oh Aye... have fun, clv. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: More Barcelona info
by oc245d8aff＠colon.net 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

I don't know if this is of interest, but I'll plough on regardless; Belle and Sebastian just got their first(?) mention on Spanish radio. They are on the same stage as Superelvis(?!) and The Magnetic Fields. Fans of Primal Scream will then have to hurtle off to the "techno rubbish" converted railway station, where they can dance the night away until six in the morning. Today's the day when I find out if we've won two nights in a swanky hotel with Bobby Gillespie. Wish me luck. Needless to say I'd sooner win two nights in a nice quiet bed and breakfast with Belle and Sebastian. Sorry for my occasional off-topic ramblings. I do try to control myself, honestly...I just get a bit carried away at times. I'm sure the other "guilty parties" have the same problem. It's not intentional, just a bit thoughtless. As for cover versions, I'd like to hear our heroes performing the entire soundtrack of "Oliver!" But I'll wait sitting down. If I don't have cause for any more lunatic ramblings today, I wish you all a nice weekend. Half an hour until you know what programme on the world service... Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: MES
by paul 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

on 11th Sept MES wrote: >And when did half of you shysters start swooning to the B&S..[who I've got >>naught against]..try post Dog On Wheels.. >Peel is and will ever be a champion...sadsacks like some of you wouldn't >know >if a musical note bit you on the arse I saw B&S at The Assembly Rooms in Edinburgh back in April (or May - I Forget) and regard the experience as probably the best gig I've attended since around 1991. As with the NYC reviews they had frequent instrument changes, a great rapport with the audience, they muffed up the intro to at least one song (but remembered the words!) and had a 5 minute break(?) somewhere in the middle. You felt they actually cared - unlike most of our indie heroes - and above all the music was brilliant. As a direct contrast I'd say that the worst gig i've ever been at was when The Fall played on Calton Hill(Edinburgh) about three years ago, where there was a shit atmosphere, MES and friends played about 3 lacklustre songs and then stormed off in a huff, show over. What a shit night. What a ripoff. Can I have my 10 quid back please!. That was probably the last time IO bought a Fall record ('15 ways' as a matter of fact). I could'nt care less about the band anymore. B&S care. Paul. "and remember an egg is good for you!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: The mailing list formerly known as being about B&S
by JSERAF＠aol.com 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

I guess I would, if given only these three options, would fall into the one that is getting bored with all these postings. But I must to say that I just needed to hear Belle & Sebastian to get me back into listening to music again (pop or otherwise). It's been a long time (maybe since the Smiths split up or the opening of the Matador label in the states). It's about time I heard something by a band that atually seems to think about its songs. So they'll probably never play Chicago (my hometown), but I'm willing to live with that if they keep putting out the goods. But since B&S's label just shuttered their doors, that alone remains to be seen ... alas. -john In a message dated 9/11/97 12:05:02 PM, SKG(a)datcon.co.uk wrote: >We seem to be divided into two categories here (or three if you count >the people who just don't give a toss and are probably getting bored of >all this!); > >1. The 'hard-core' indie fan. Listens to John Peel. Thinks variety means >hearing as many different bands as possible, preferably ones no-one has >heard of. Thinks credibility is gained by having seen "Tonto's Exploding >Penis" playing down the Frog & Sprocket on a Monday night in January. > >2. The 'mainstream' indie fan. Listens to Mark Radcliffe. Thinks variety >means having Carter USM, Ben Folds Five, Divine Comedy, Space, Radiohead >and Abba in the same CD collection (all examples from my own as it >happens). Doesn't care about credibility. > >Now obviously it's not for me to say which is right, everyone's welcome >to their own taste. But every person on this list has one thing in >common, a love of B&S, so let's not turn this into a slanging match >between 'real music fans' and the rest, OK? > >Stuart G > >Oh, and Duke, I would rather listen to ANY guitar band than the Spice >Girls... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: The mailing list formerly known as being about B&S
by paul 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

On Thu, 11 Sept 1997, Alex Ward wrote: >I'd have to fall into the third catagory. Not only does this thread >exclude >subscribers from outside the UK (of which there are a few, I >assure you), but >it's also tangential at best. Talk about B&S is ideal. >Talk about other bands >or music is ok. Talk about the dj's who play >whatever kind of music is, >perhaps, a bit too far off the mark, IMO. Frankly I've found it a blessing to read the posts from our NYC friends still euphoric over witnessing B&S in the flesh - compared to the bollox debate over which radio DJ is shit or not. Its the music that counts. I don't mind Peely playing shit techno,'cause I know he'll get round to playing something good or even fantastic at some point in the show, its like panning for gold. The same would go for Radcliffe and Lard if I could be bothered listening to sanitised mainstream breakfast radio. As for MES: >And when did half of you shysters start swooning to the B&S..[who I've got >>naught against]..try post Dog On Wheels.. >Peel is and will ever be a champion...sadsacks like some of you wouldn't >know >if a musical note bit you on the arse post Dog On Wheels my arse. Show your age man! This "I was into(insert band name here) before you / since their first single" attitude sucks a big one. Immature indie kids normally come out with statements as wise as yours, since they usually believe most fans of a band must be recent bandwagon jumpers. The fact that we're here 'debating' at all indicates we can tell exactly which note is biting us on the arse. B&S are probably the best band I've heard in the last two years. Their songs of awkwardness, emotions and the ordinary sharply contrast with most of the one-dimensional popstar-wannabes which choke up the 'Indie'(and increasingly mainstream) chart. Phew! sorry, I got carried away there. What a way to introduce myself. "and remember an egg is good for you!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Last night's show....
by mlang＠inch.com 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

I had never seen Belle and Sebastian before, (as I would assume is true of many of us). First of all I just want to say that it was a total joy. They really treated making beautiful music as a collective project and that charm made the audience really respectful of their set, that is not an easy thing to get out of a New York Audience. Stuart Murdoch is a suprisingly good frontman, I figured his voice wouldn't be audible but I could hear every word. This made the fact that about 9 of the 11 songs they played last night were new and unfamiliar to me a good thing and not a bad thing. The new lyrics are wonderful and I am filled with excitement at the idea of this collective having a long and prolific career. The venue was an incredibly beautiful converted Temple and it was really suitable for their sound. All of the instruments sounded great except for the bass and I don't know whether that was because of bad playing, a bad bass amp or what... The songs that I know that they did were Dylan in the Movies, Stars of Track and Field, and Lady Line Painter Jane. They closed with Loneliness of the Middle Distance runner which is a real gem of a song. I just want to add that I have been to hundreds of shows in my life and never have I seen a better looking audience. I know that has something to do with the youthfulness of the band and the fact that it was the lower east side but it made me wonder if you are all beautys too. :) I can't wait to hear the new record... the new songs are a step up lyrically AND musically from If You're Feeling Sinister, I have not doubt it will be an awesome record. Anyone else go last night? steve matrick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: cheezy PBS intro
by MPRVixen＠aol.com 12 Sep '97

12 Sep '97

If he was a true fan, he would have come up with something more coherent than "their songs are like old friends you haven't met yet." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Tigermilk...again.
by Chris Stack 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

Did anyone see this months record collector? This guy was selling Tigermilk for £18, the idiot. I wrote to him and told him I'd pay more, but he just wrote back and said he already sold it for 18 pounds. Eighteen bastard pounds! The last one sold for 200 didn't it? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: re: the state that I am in. + stuff
by Chris Stack 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

I thought it meant everyone was giving him grief until his brother came out and became a focus of attention and stuff, but no doubt someone will post some thing about hidden meanings and reading stuff into the fact that he thought of himself first etc. Why can't it be like the good old days when everyone talked about stuff that was really thinly connected to B&S? Like cats and buses? By the way when do the results of voting for your favourite B&S song thing on that other B&S website come out? What did everyone vote for? Did Fox in the snow get any votes? P.S. I'm not saying that fox in the snow is shit or anything, It's just that you have to be in the right mood. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Feeling sinister about John Peel
by fall＠theclassical.net 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

Hey There !! Leave me outta ya crappy debates... Go back to feeling sinister and rabbiting on about bikes and cats... And when did half of you shysters start swooning to the B&S..[who I've got naught against]..try post Dog On Wheels.. Peel is and will ever be a champion...sadsacks like some of you wouldn't know if a musical note bit you on the arse I never felt better in my life.. Cha Cha MES ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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