September 1997 - Sinister

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by emason＠aw.sgi.com 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

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by emason＠aw.sgi.com 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

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Sinister: Feeling sinister about djs
by John Stuart 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

>I think I'll stick to Radcliffe/Greening on Radio 1. That Greening bloke is really shit. I've ended up just listening to CD's in the morning. I'll tune in again when Mark and Lard return. Although they're morning show is a watered down, mainstreamed version of the old nightime slot. I look forward to the day they go back to doing to late show. Playing the music they want to play, and getting rid of that old git Peel and his crappy techno rubblish for good. At least you folks in London have a half decent alternative with XFM. The thing is, they need to get as many listeners as posible, which means playing the most mainstream indie. I'd still prefer that to the spice girls, elton john etc. John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by emason＠aw.sgi.com 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

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Sinister: Re: Princess Die
by leslie.chinea＠emimusic.com 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

Did you know what Princess Di's dress was made of on the night of her accident? Crushed Velvet. Oops did I say that? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Princess Die Author: Leslie Chinea at US_LA_EMD Date: 9/8/97 10:09 PM thought this was about your speed... ______________________________ Forward Header __________________________________ Subject: Princess Die Author: Hayley Tapp at US_LA_EMD Date: 9/8/97 5:03 PM Did you guys hear about Princess Di's accident? She's been all over the radio all week...as well as the dashboard and the windshield! Ok, don't kill me. I'm just the messenger. Hayley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: us shows...
by wtpmf＠bu.edu 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

Hi, I was wondering if anyone had any info on Belle and Sebastien shows in the US, there were a lot of rumours about the band playing in Boston, Philadelphia, etc... but the papers don't have any listings... rich. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: more on the NY taping...
by Ciflux＠aol.com 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

I know this has been discussed to death, but... << > I had the recent fortune of being able to attend the perhaps now fabled > Sessions on 54th taping of Belle and Sebastian. Me too. My girlfriend Callie and I were there, sitting right behind the drummer. (It was funny watching him take pictures in between songs.) Strangely, I've heard some *very* mixed reviews about this taping. How could anyone not have felt privileged and honored to be there? Sure, they played mostly new songs, but by Sunday night, they'd already become lodged in my head as new favorites. And certainly they were more awkward and fumbling than at Angel Orensanz, but that seemed entirely appropriate to both the situation and B&S themselves. I'm confident that even the most cynical attendees will be bragging to their grandchildren about having been there :). I found out later that Beck was scheduled to do a taping the very next afternoon. If only I'd known, I'd have been on the phone to Sony Studios in search of passes for that, too! mike appelstein ciflux(a)aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Feeling sinister about djs
by Nigel Turner 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

John Stuart wrote: >I look forward to the day they go back to doing to late show. Playing the music they want to play, and getting rid of that old git Peel and his crappy techno rubblish for good. Well, you really asked for it, didn't you? I'd agree that Peel does play probably.....ooh, often as many as two crappy techno records in every show, but come on..........where else (in the world?) are you going to hear such great and diverse music as Peel plays ON ONE SHOW? The man's (virtually) irreplaceable - forget Radcliffe (whom I like, but..), forget Lamacq or any of your XFM dj's, they don't begin to cover the diversity of stuff that Peel does. I've been listening to Peel for almost 20 years, and have heard all the great bands (bar none!) FIRST on John Peel - ok, let's name drop a little, shall we.......Joy Division, The Fall, Orange Juice, Fire Engines, Gang of Four, Birthday Party, The Smiths, Sonic Youth, Public Enemy, My Bloody Valentine, Pavement, Belle & Sebastian(!) - heard 'em all on Peel first (and I'm talking their early stuff here, when no-one else wanted to know ). And I don't buy that "Yeah, he used to be good, but nowadays....." line either. Where else can you hear stuff like Neutral Milk Hotel, We, Dymaxion (if you've not heard of these, you ain't been LISTENING). I'm not saying that these bands wouldn't have made it without Peel, although I'm sure there are many who wouldn't, but no other dj that I'm aware of can claim to have championed so many great and deserving artistes. No one else comes close. Can I have the cheque now please, John? Nigel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Feeling sinister about djs
by Nigel Turner 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

>So where does that leave all the excellent bands Peel never played (Pulp Erm.....just one cotton-picking minute there. He played Pulp back in 1985!!! And, yes, I do like Pulp. > He's NOT first off the block with new bands (only last night he was going on about playing a record for the first time which he'd heard on Mary-Anne Hobbs about a month ago, and Radcliffe was way ahead with B&S (who as far as I know have never done a Peel session)). I didn't say first with EVERY band (although nearly always with the ones that count), but the fact that you remember him talking about hearing a record played first on MAH suggests that this ain't too frequent an occurrence. Radcliffe was there early on B&S, admittedly, (couldn't say who was first for sure - couldn't really care) but Peel also played stuff from Tigermilk. >As for the only measure of a good radio show being variety, I'd have said any show that plays the Spice Girls and the Prodigy is pretty diverse, that doesn't make it good. No, I said GREAT and DIVERSE. > The problem with Peel is that because he's been around so long, and in that time he has admittedly played quite a few good groups Understatement of all time? >(he'd be doing pretty badly if he hadn't), he's been given God-like status by people who now think whatever he plays must be good. For heaven's sake, the man still plays Fall records... I'm with you on this one. Although I felt obliged to jump to his defence (not that he needs anyone to defend him), I'm totally against deification, be it dj's, princesses, whatever. And the Fall haven't made a decent record since 1983. Nigel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: Sinister: Feeling sinister about djs
by Stuart Gardiner 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

>Well, you really asked for it, didn't you? I'd agree that Peel does play >probably.....ooh, often as many as two crappy techno records in every show, >but come on..........where else (in the world?) are you going to hear such >great and diverse music as Peel plays ON ONE SHOW? The man's (virtually) >irreplaceable - forget Radcliffe (whom I like, but..), forget Lamacq or any >of your XFM dj's, they don't begin to cover the diversity of stuff that Peel >does. I've been listening to Peel for almost 20 years, and have heard all >the great bands (bar none!) FIRST on John Peel - ok, let's name drop a >little, shall we.......Joy Division, The Fall, Orange Juice, Fire Engines, >Gang of Four, Birthday Party, The Smiths, Sonic Youth, Public Enemy, My >Bloody Valentine, Pavement, Belle & Sebastian(!) - heard 'em all on Peel >first (and I'm talking their early stuff here, when no-one else wanted to >know ). And I don't buy that "Yeah, he used to be good, but nowadays....." >line either. Where else can you hear stuff like Neutral Milk Hotel, We, >Dymaxion (if you've not heard of these, you ain't been LISTENING). I'm not >saying that these bands wouldn't have made it without Peel, although I'm sure >there are many who wouldn't, but no other dj that I'm aware of can claim to >have championed so many great and deserving artistes. No one else comes >close. Can I have the cheque now please, John? > >Nigel So where does that leave all the excellent bands Peel never played (Pulp and Blur spring to mind. Or is that too 'mainstream' for you?). He's NOT first off the block with new bands (only last night he was going on about playing a record for the first time which he'd heard on Mary-Anne Hobbs about a month ago, and Radcliffe was way ahead with B&S (who as far as I know have never done a Peel session)). As for the only measure of a good radio show being variety, I'd have said any show that plays the Spice Girls and the Prodigy is pretty diverse, that doesn't make it good. The problem with Peel is that because he's been around so long, and in that time he has admittedly played quite a few good groups (he'd be doing pretty badly if he hadn't), he's been given God-like status by people who now think whatever he plays must be good. For heaven's sake, the man still plays Fall records... Stuart G > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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