September 1997 - Sinister

Re: Sinister: Feeling sinister about John Peel
by fall＠theclassical.net 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

Hey There !! Leave me outta ya crappy debates... Go back to feeling sinister and rabbiting on about bikes and cats... And when did half of you shysters start swooning to the B&S..[who I've got naught against]..try post Dog On Wheels.. Peel is and will ever be a champion...sadsacks like some of you wouldn't know if a musical note bit you on the arse I never felt better in my life.. Cha Cha MES ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Feeling sinister about djs
by Chris Wirth 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

<<simply complete the following statement: I only listen to Sleeper records because Louise Wiener look like a....>> ...Banger! Ha ha! Get it? Double meaning? hahaha...ha...er...uh ...shutting up, sir. ~cw~ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: cheese.
by Richard 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

I know the cheesiness debate has run it's course, but I can't let it lie without adding my halfpennyworth. This man (Chris Douridas) is the utter bane of Los Angeles radio, and his genuine love of B&S does not in anyway impede his outright crappiness. My hatred is born of having to listen to him on office radio every morning. None of his syrupy sincerity gives him the right to go anywhere near a microphone. Unlike John Peel. I don't know what he's like nowadays, and it's been a long time since I actually actively listened - but I was always glad he was there. Like the National Gallery. I may not visit, but I don't want it to go away. He played me the GoBetweens. And Felt. I owe him. You truly don't know how lucky you are in the UK, at least as far as radio goes. And TV for that matter. The only thing you're missing is 103.9 soul oldies. So I know it's too early to expect an answer, but does anyone expect anything to come of the West Coast tour hinted at earlier? Can I take the hint to mean that they like it over here and might actualy return? By the way, Chris' great insight into B&S was "they sound like Donovan." Richard PS One of Moose used to work in Record and Tape Exchange. I wonder if he's back there? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: apologies for that "blank" mail
by Eric Mason 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

hey - don't know what happened there - i honestly only sent the one message...the server hung up or something so i pressed send a number of times....i wasn't trying to make any dramatic point by sending numerous blank messages... servers me right i guess... eric ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: star wars
by ten seconds to midnight 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

Hi, Seems B&S are fans of Star Wars - cos in 'Le Pastie...' Stuart sings something about 'draw your light sabre.' Or possibly not. And another cover version I'd quite like to hear them do would be 'Teenage Kicks.' Aren't Cast shit? have fun, clv. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: the fall and b&s
by Eric Mason 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

ok - i realize that the belle and sebastian list is not an appropriate forum for a discussion of mark e. smith...and apologies beforehand to individuals who really don't give a shit...but i can't continue my usual lurking without answering some of the anti-fall comments this morning....(or afternoon for you uk listers)... hey - i still listen to the fall - and admire peel for still playing them - it's just a testament to his genius that he still sees their continued brilliance in the face of popular opinion...i'm not trying to argue that they're better or even as good as they were in their peak period....but, in the face of most of what gets played on the radio - they still tower above the vast majority.... let's not escalate this into some type of fallvsbelle discussion please...for the sake of a majority of belle fans. no matter how much they aurally differ - they share an intelligence and importance that few groups can ever hope to achieve. you can take my comments with a grain of salt however...shit...i actually don't mind the new edwyn collins album.. now THERE's someone who writes better stuff then he did pre 1983...(joke). also it features a guest vocal chore by the aforementioned fall main man..... favorite belle moment this weekend in NYC: the stuart/stevie piss-take on the Velvets live 1969: Stuart: should we do two sets or just one long one?etc.... they've got pop pedigree of the best kind oozing out of every syllable, every note.... back to lurking...and i'll just rant privately and talk to myself as usual instead of getting involved in future topics... eric ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: The mailing list formerly known as being about B&S
by Stuart Gardiner 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

We seem to be divided into two categories here (or three if you count the people who just don't give a toss and are probably getting bored of all this!); 1. The 'hard-core' indie fan. Listens to John Peel. Thinks variety means hearing as many different bands as possible, preferably ones no-one has heard of. Thinks credibility is gained by having seen "Tonto's Exploding Penis" playing down the Frog & Sprocket on a Monday night in January. 2. The 'mainstream' indie fan. Listens to Mark Radcliffe. Thinks variety means having Carter USM, Ben Folds Five, Divine Comedy, Space, Radiohead and Abba in the same CD collection (all examples from my own as it happens). Doesn't care about credibility. Now obviously it's not for me to say which is right, everyone's welcome to their own taste. But every person on this list has one thing in common, a love of B&S, so let's not turn this into a slanging match between 'real music fans' and the rest, OK? Stuart G Oh, and Duke, I would rather listen to ANY guitar band than the Spice Girls... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: DJ Debate (not really about b&s, sorry!)
by John Stuart 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

>Well, you really asked for it, didn't you? I'd agree that Peel does play >probably.....ooh, often as many as two crappy techno records in every show, >but come on..........where else (in the world?) are you going to hear such >great and diverse music as Peel plays ON ONE SHOW? The man's (virtually) >irreplaceable - forget Radcliffe (whom I like, but..), forget Lamacq or any >of your XFM dj's, they don't begin to cover the diversity of stuff that Peel >does. I've been listening to Peel for almost 20 years, and have heard all >the great bands (bar none!) FIRST on John Peel - ok, let's name drop a >little, shall we.......Joy Division, The Fall, Orange Juice, Fire Engines, >Gang of Four, Birthday Party, The Smiths, Sonic Youth, Public Enemy, My >Bloody Valentine, Pavement, Belle & Sebastian(!) - heard 'em all on Peel >first (and I'm talking their early stuff here, when no-one else wanted to >know ). And I don't buy that "Yeah, he used to be good, but nowadays....." >line either. Where else can you hear stuff like Neutral Milk Hotel, We, >Dymaxion (if you've not heard of these, you ain't been LISTENING). I'm not >saying that these bands wouldn't have made it without Peel, although I'm sure >there are many who wouldn't, but no other dj that I'm aware of can claim to >have championed so many great and deserving artistes. No one else comes >close. Can I have the cheque now please, John? > >Nigel I'm sorry but I don't care how diverse a DJ is. I think it is far more important what music they play. I used to fall asleep to the Radcliffe show. He played lots of beautiful music which I really liked. Belle & Sebby, The Sundays, Beth Orton. John Peel seems to play head hurting techno everytime I happen to listen. This of course is just my personal preference, hope I've not offended Nigel or anybody else with my comments. BTW, it was Radcliffe who first started playing Belle & Sebastian. John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Evening Session!!!!
by Nathan 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

Sorry, but I can't give a copy of the songs taped off the E. Session to anyone else. I've already got to send out loads, and I'm completely broke, and owe #40 to the uni library(stamps and tapes aren't cheap). Maybe some other people could offer ?? Nathan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Cheesy PBS Taping
by Skreddy56＠aol.com 11 Sep '97

11 Sep '97

I just wanted to take this opportunity to say that I am not a real fan. --Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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