January 1998 - Sinister - missprint.org

Sinister: pop stars love them!
by blink＠inexpress.net 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

>Date: 5 Jan 98 11:03:39 >From: Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB <Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO(a)notesgw.compuserve.com> >Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio > >Two Belle moments on local radio in London last weekend. First Mark Eitzel was >on Sean Hughes' GLR show picking his favourite records of the moment. I >somehow half-knew he was going to pick Belle & Sebastian and sure enough it >wasn't too long before "The Fox In The Snow" piped its pretty way through my >little clock radio speaker. Songs are often best heard that way. Mr Eitzel >said someone handed him IYFS at a concert in the US and told him he had to >listen to it. So he did, and he didn't like it, but then he listened again and >now he loves it. So: Mark Eitzel, Ian Broudie, some bloke from Travis, and >ermm...Ben Folds. They're taking rock aristocracy by storm. Travis too! (Well one of) Is it Fran (such a sweet thang)? I have another name for your list...Mat Osman from Suede.... >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:50:55 -0000 >From: ELIZABETH DAPLYN <EDAPLYNR3N00297(a)kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk> >Subject: [none] >Secondly: > Blimey! Heated debates a-go-go on t'list between those still >umbilically-attached to their computers over Christmas or what? I >didn't go to ANY of the gigs, you sods(my tiny hands are frozen, orphan >face pressed up against the glittery window of B&S gigdom), so I hope >you feel shamed into appreciating the marvels and incompetence which you >were fortunate enough to witness. Toujours gai, Archie, toujours gai... I didn't get to see the shows either, oh the dream of seeing a Belle and Sebastian show! None of the bands I like ever come here,and when they do come here I can't see them anyways because all the shows are usually 19+ and then (if i go to sneak in or just meet them) all these posh girls in fishnets carrying roses are evil to me cause they think I'm a groupie/teenybopper. Anyways,I'm gonna keep sitting here and "wishin' and praying' and hopin'" we'll get some North American tour dates (seems pretty unlikely,if they only play a couple of shows per year) they are very welcome to play the snowy fields in Quebec anytime....hint hint.. kiss kiss, Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: I sees what i see...
by Richard Banner 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

Belle and Sebastian Sunday Evening Gig -------------------------------------- I've just returned too Uni and suddenly i have my email powers back, so i would like to wish the list a Happy New Year. Having to read through nearly 900 pieces of mail has given me a bloody great headache and a must admit the delete button has proved a saviour. However... I went to the Sunday Evening gig in Manchester and i must admit that overall i had a great time. I thought that B+S played pretty good. From what i've read from the list it seems that many people were not overly impressed with the Saturday performance. This is indeed a shame. I felt that Sundays performance was pretty good. To be honest i didn't think B+S were superb but it was joy to see them and at times they bordered on brilliance. I do have one major query though... Who's idea was the room setup? As a fan it was bizarre to be part of it, it didn't matter where you were in the room your vision of the band at some point was always obstructed and difficult. Surely for a band so 'fresh' it would have been better and aided enjoyment if there was a more conventional layout. Maybe a more linear approach would have made the sound better too or at least easier to handle. It was as if at times the band were struggling with the whole setup. However... i felt the setup did give the gig a kind of 'unplugged' atmosphere and was easy to relax and 'just' listen. That was cool. I thought the set list was really good with some old favourites and some new songs. The two highlights for me was that 'hush hush' cover tune, haven't got a clue who that was by but it was performed superbly, and secondly about three songs from the end a new song with a catchy guitar riff, good stuff... I think overall the band performed well but i can't help but think that they made their task far more difficult by an obscure setup. Personally i felt that did well with what they had but maybe they should learn to walk before they run? Out of curiosity, where did people(the travellers)stay in the end, i arrived late in the city with my girlfriend and another couple and after getting lost and bothered around the dark streets we decided on the Portland Thistle Hotel. Now before you all start drilling me and labelling a me rich bastard my girlfriend paid for this on Visa(she was scared and cold), i was well impressed as you can imagine. I think they (the hotel folk)were even more impressed with our dress and particularly my Pavement T-shirt!!! Anyway enoughs enough so i better be going. If anyone has any comments go for it... Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: Us fun-loving Americans
by jkral＠webtv.net 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

So... Am I the only American Belle & Sebastian fan or what? Maybe they're not Oasis-ish enough for our grunge-loving music consumers...it's so very sad. Please tell me I am not alone. Jaysen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by Vicente Perez 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

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Sinister: CAN WE LET THIS LIE NOW PLEASE!!!!!
by Sarah 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

LISTEN!!!!! Some of us only went to the Sat gig and we are grateful for all we got! I spose that is not the way it should be but for me it was and if you don't shut up and i am going to cast a magic star spell on you TO SHUT THE F**K UP! And what about the people that didn't even get to them!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! what the hell is the point? to us who only get to a gig a couple og times a year if fucking lucky due to living in them darn sticks called Warton (even tho mansun and Ciornershop playing soon - wow. well if it works out i'll try and go.) any Belle and Sebastian thing to us desperate kids is marvellous. fuck it i've lost and won the arguement already. whingers! shut it!everyone complaing went on th Sunday anyway so......... fuck it again. i'm going to listen to um, the evening session. aint done for ages. why not? sarah calms down, breathes deeply and says the magic words : I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I saw the best meals of my generation Destroyed by the madness of my brother My soul carved in slices By spiky haired demons" --Lisa Simpson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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by ELIZABETH DAPLYN 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

Phew! Back to the old Foundation Course grindstone after Christmas Time (mistletoe and whining) and all the shenanigins that go with it, I return to find a groaning mailbox, although not as bad as it could be because of other impoverished studes wi'out computadoras for the festive period and therefore not sending tons o' mail to the list. Firstly: BIG NEWS! On Christmas Eve I got an unconditional offer from Oxford Uni for the Fine Art degree...Yipee! Hoorah! Assorted expressions of glee and merriment! I can now become a posh cow and justify my previous pretensions...not really, I'll just stay the middle-class cow I've always been and enjoy it so there. Secondly: Blimey! Heated debates a-go-go on t'list between those still umbilically-attached to their computers over Christmas or what? I didn't go to ANY of the gigs, you sods(my tiny hands are frozen, orphan face pressed up against the glittery window of B&S gigdom), so I hope you feel shamed into appreciating the marvels and incompetence which you were fortunate enough to witness. Toujours gai, Archie, toujours gai... Thirdly: Being a flautist of some renown(ie. people see me coming, say, "Bloody Hellfire, it's her again" and scarper) and having nothing to do/ For a minute or two, the other day I set myself to learning the flute/xylophone/whateveritis solo from We Rule The School. Christ! Emajor! That, children, is four(count 'em) sharps(hence somewhat of a bitch to play at first), ut did I let that daunt me? No! I can now grace any recital of your choice with this twiddling wee thingie, for all the use that's ever going to be. Suggestions of any other B&S (or anyone else for that matter) twiddly bits for me to while away the hours wrestling with would be appreciated. Fourthly: Well, that's about it for today, children, so I'll just sign off while simultaneously also swearing my eternal devotion to the great god that is Stuart Staples' boozy old voice(as this seems to be de rigeur on ye olde liste these days), second only to our own deliciously-weak reed, the Murdoch himself. Well, that was a rather long email for me. I need a cup of tea and a lie down(for which I will require to actually go home). Therefore: tata fer noo. Lots of something, Liz (edaplynr3n00297(a)kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ************************************************************************ **** O life is a glorious cycle of song: A medley of extemporanea; And love is a thing that can never go wrong; And I am Marie of Roumania. Dorothy Parker ************************************************************************ *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Blind love and devotion
by MWaggner 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

Just some commentary from a jealous B&S fan in the states: Imagine my surprise to come home from sunny climes and see a brawl here, when I thought there would be all sorts of exultation and that I would be turning green with envy. And I say, "Go Duke!" :) It sounds like the shows in Manchester were much like the 3 shows here in NY last fall. The first, the PBS taping, was very rough. The band was set up rather awkwardly in a sort of open circle and the sound was all over the place. I was sad that I couldn't hear the vocals, as I am a "lyrics" person pretty much, but I didn't get pissed off at the band for it. I thought they were pretty much shy and nervous and actually found it pretty endearing (being a mom and all). They knew it wasn't all that good, because someone wrote an apology for the show to my son with their autograph. I would have been livid if I thought the band weren't "trying" or were taking the audience for granted, but it was none of that. Just seemed to be awkwardness and that just happens. They seem to want to do things their own way and that is their right. Eventually something will click, and there were moments of that. By Sunday's show, they were superb! It met all my long-built-up expectations, and everyone seemed more confident. Again, as a mom-person, I was relieved for them. I didn't see the Saturday show, but the consensus was that Sunday was the best of the three, as in Manchester. I just felt kind of lucky to see the "progression" from awkward to beautiful. It's that way with bands you love: sometimes they give a crap performance, but you go with that knowing you'll hear something wonderful another time. There are some performers that I see over and over and I can't imagine a perfect performance each and every time -- you're dealing with people, not programmed robots. They don't owe me anything at all. The fact that they can make beautiful music is something I'm willing to wait to hear. If one isn't ready to accept that with this band, then it's just time to say they aren't your cup of tea and move on. Quietly. If your perspective is not only musical, but "technical" as well, then maybe you get pissed off that things weren't done "right." I've been at shows that were so badly run that the evening was a complete hell, but I rarely blame the band. More often the crowd for not adapting to it and making it bearable, or whatever. You can always sail right out the door if you don't like the experience and can't make it something you enjoy. Well, just had to put my 2 cents worth in. Much as I love a good brawl, I hope I didn't extend this one any farther than it needed to go.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian .. playing songs for children
by Keith Watson 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

>- Chris - >Young MC: Theme from Shaft (remix of Isaac Hayes original) > >[Chris's well known rap/groove persuasion coming out here - he says he >doesn't want Stuart M to rap on stage necessarily, but he does really] Incidentally, this is a track called "Know How" from the 1989 LP "Stone Cold Rhymin'" which is great and also features the brilliant single "Bust a Move". The Young MC was also well known for having written Tone Loc's hits of the time too. Pop Pickers. Cheers, Keith. (Sorry about this, just catching up on about the last months worth of mail) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: frankly
by Johnston, John CT 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

> who is Mr Shankley? I always thought it was Bill Shankly, legendary Liverpool footy supremo. I never thought to wonder why Moz should be so concerned with his opinion. Let's have a party! John xxx >---------- >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith@qss.co.uk] >Sent: 05 Jan 1998 15:04 >To: sinister(a)majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: tourniquet > >> who is Mr Shankley? > > >Frankly, I've no idea. > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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Sinister: I Could be dreaming
by John Stuart 05 Jan '98

05 Jan '98

>Does anyone know what exactly who I can only assume is Isobel goes on about at >the end of "I Could Be Dreaming"? Was it something written by the band? I >find it quite hilarious, especially the part about not being daunted by the >largest word in the dictionary. I've been wondering about this since I bought tigermilk. I think she is reading excepts from various books, although, I've still no idea what. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister(a)majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------

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