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Sinister: MATTHEW SHEPARD ISSUE
by Nikolas Montaldi 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

HI LIST, this may have no obviuos connection with our beloved "Belle and Sebastian",but I just wanted to get a few thoughts across about Matthew Shepard,the 22 year old gay student who died last week as a result of a horrific gay bashing attack. This story got very little coverage over here in the U.K,but seems to have set of heated debating and an outpouring of grief in America. I first came across it in last Sundays Observer ,where a photograph of Shepard appeared next to one of anti-gay demonstraters declaring "God hates Fags".Seeing Shepards extremely sympathetic and kind face,I tried to find out more about the whole thing. Call me silly if you like,but the more I read the closser I felt to that guy.Somehow he is a very Belle and Sebastian-esque character,a boy who "thought there was love in everything and everyone",a little naive and ultimately tragic.The press described him as someone unable to find his place,"shy,gentle and mellow",with strong interests in theatre,literature and human rights. He just seems to have been such a lovely person I wish I'd known him.It just makes me sick to think that poeple dared to shout "No tears for Queers" outside his funeral service.What kind of world is this? Sorry to mention serious things,but I'm sure that there is some space for this on the list. Take care everyone, NIK ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: World of Sport.
by Adrian Evans 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

Kevan "Mick McManus" Cooke wrote : Did anyone else ever watch the wrestling on ITV? Not the WWF stuff, the old UK wrestling with Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks that they used to show until the mid-eighties. Great wasn't it. Oh, that wasn't what I meant to say at all. Do you remember the wrestler called Catweasel? You do? Well, that was Adrian Evans. No, really. Just ask him. Shame Manchester's off, I was looking forward to giving Evans another menacing. Get stuffed will you. Just get your facts right before you go blabbling your nonsense to 700+ people. I was Alan wotshisface. The deaf and dumb guy with the really bad fuck-off great red pants. I always used to take a real caning (blood, bones, that sort of thing) before coming good and whipping the bad guys butt. I'm a winner slug boy, and don't forget it. Naturally I'm a bit over-weight these days, but hey the y-fronts still fit a treat. The Boy Done again was wittering with someone about : The LAnt jackets i remember were kinda beigey "blouson" style jackets with cheesey tartan linings, zip-up pockets and elasticated wrists I had a black blouson style thing with said cheesey lining otherwise known as a Harrington I believe. I also had said Parka. Anyone who hasn't owned one of these top eighties eskimo fashionwear items has never experienced pain. Remember those cold winter mornings ? Mother passes you your packed lunch with your bag of Wotsits, looks at you and says..."You'll catch the death of cold like that". Grabs the zip (which at this point is probably ooh say collar height but has a good seven or eight inches leeway), and yanks it up to full eskimo setting, the zip catching the fleshy bit under the chin.....OUCH I SAY. Pierre de Mille : Am I alone in preferring Peter Withe to Stan Collymore? Nope. Bearded footballers are always going to rate more highly than those with no hair at all. But it has to be said that the West Ham side of the late seventies come out head and shoulders above Withey. Gary continued : I felt sorry for Big Daddy's tag team partner, cos they always had to have the crap beaten out of them for ten minutes, then somehow crawl over to the corner to tag BD before he kicked the shit out of the opponent. They do all the hard work, then he waltz's in a takes the glory. Doesn't seem fair to me. THAT WAS ME !!! And you're right it wasn't fair. I went to the wrestlers union about it, but all they said was "It's Big Daddy innit ? What can we do ? out hands are tied..The guys bigger than the sport itself innit ?" I considered changing tag partners to Paddy Roache, but he said he was leaving wrestling as he'd got a part in Auf Weidershen Pet as the bloke who never said much. Lovely Fluffy Sarah wrote : I can gurn well I supose. But not as well as people in Cornwall, like Adrian Evans who once shouted at me cos I called Cornwall posh in a moment of JEST, yes, I have a MEMORY for people who call me nasty names, watch out!!! Ohbloodybollocks I didn't shout at you, I don't come from Cornwall, you do have a bloody good memory, I didn't call you nasty names, and I only gurn well because my face is permanently screwed up because of the continuing stench of cow P!O!O! B&S content ? Hardyfuckingha !! Smut content ? Rim-cheese. (T!O!P!I!C!A!L!) Umberto Migraino. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Help!! Need Glasgow directions
by John Stuart 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

Could some helpful listee please give me directions to the "Old Fruit Market" in Glasgow, from Queen Street station? I'm going through twice in the next few weeks - Natalie Merchant (1/11) and Air (4/11). Nearby hotel recommendations would also be very welcome. Cheers. Nohj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Sebastien, you're in a mess...
by poetryplace2 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

Having been a committed Sinista (like a Sandinista, but with a cardigan) for over a year now, most B&S-related questions have been to my satisfaction; I feel a richer person for knowing exactly what an arab strap is, what manner of beast Elvis is, and the full story of the horse and the leopardskin catsuit. One question, however, continues to nag... Namely: what exactly do the original Belle et Sebastien make of our favourite madcap twangle-pop-tarts? To find out more, I commandeered the Jeepster private jet (it has a nice picture of piglet on the tailfin, on Katrinas expressed instructions) and flew off to the French Riviera where the boy and dog who enchanted a generation of viewers live out their twilight years in Mediterranean languor. I caught up with the couple on the balcony of their beachfront villa in Cannes. Sebastien reclined on an Alessi deckchair, Hefneresque in a silk monogramed dressing gown, sucking occasionally on one of those plastic cigarette substitutes between sips of chardonnay, while Belle lounged in the sun, enjoying the attentions of a couple of nubile labradors. I immediately put my foot in it by addressing the boy as Seb. Listen kid, thats Monsieur Sebastien, if you dont fucking mind! Show some goddamn respect. Apologising, I asked how he felt about a bunch of Glaswegian hipsters adopting his moniker. Well, its about fucking time, aint it? replied the ageing boychild. Back in the eighties every two-bit kids celebrity had their own shambling band: the Woodentops, The Clangers, Marine Boy... you name it. Those guys were making big bucks from dumbass college kids buying their old shows on video. The fucking Soup Dragon used to show up here every evening, coked up to her eyeballs, crowing about how her boys had done her good. We had the last laff with that one, of course... Im Free: what a crock of shit! I quickly ascertained that the passing years had tipped the scales from innocence to experience for Msr Sebastien. What, I asked, had he been up to since his early seventies heydey? I had heard that the show had ended amid creative differences. Listen, he said, draining the remnants of chardonnay and pouring himself a large tumbler of Scotch, that dumb bitch Aubrey wouldnt give me creative control. I was the star! Without me she woulda been some fucking frog peasant, picking potatoes in some field somewhere. I was sick of the whole poor boy searching for his mom shtick. I wanted to bring the show into the seventies, in a kinda Dukes of Hazzard direction. The kids were going crazy for that stuff... We coulda had a few car chases, some hot broads in cut-offs. But no, she wouldnt have it. What happened? Well I dragged the mangey mutt there, he said, gesturing towards Belle, out to LA. I figured we could strike up a deal with Disney or something. Turns out they were already working on Digby, the Biggest Dog in the World , compared to which some crummy Pyranean mountain dog is chump change. They didnt need anymore fucking fleabags. Next, we headed down to Hanna-Barbera.... Those assholes wouldnt even let us make a guest appearance on Captain fucking Caveman. The studio system is fucked, kid, the suits have got control and they just dont appreciate class anymore. After that, I... I lost a coupla years. I was hanging out in LA with Willis, yknow from Different Strokes, and that Gonch guy from Grange Hill. Wild, wild times, baby! It was just a blizzard of coke... In the end I got busted for selling a coupla rocks of crack to Velma from Scooby Doo. I was sent into rehab, and came out a stronger wiser kid. He moved onto his second Scotch, and lit a pungent Havana cigar. Then, of course, the royalties started coming in from all the re-runs on Nickelodeon. Belle there invested the cash in a couple of those Wallace and Grommit films Gad! I love those crazy Brits! and with the takings she bought this place and took me back in. A heartwarming story. But what did he think of the latest B&S meisterwerk, The Boy with the Arab Strap? The boy with the whaaaat? Listen, I had heard this band were a bunch of fucking queers, but this is too much! I gotta call my lawyers! And with this he stumbled from his chair, slipped in a puddle of scotch, and crawled off to look for the phone. I decided to let myself out. As I passed Belle, I asked her what she thought of the band. Mon cher, she replied huskily, in a voice not unlike that of Isabelle Huppert, I think they are ow you say? seemply deeeeeevine.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: To Bertrand Caron
by Andras Zalan Szolnoki 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

This message bounched back , so I thought IŽll send it through sinister.. Ciao >Well I think that you got two pieces of paper with the tape..... >noe of them has something in french written on it....I think , and >thatŽs the stamp ..eehh.. I mean that I payed for the tape to be sent to >you and the returned as well so that you did have to bother with with a >silly thing like that .. but I donŽt know how it works.. >The other piece of paper was the only thing I found at the post-office , >and I just thought I should write you a merci beaucoup note .. thatŽs >all >I hope this helped you clear up the problem.... >Cheerio!!!!!!!! >Szola > >>From bertrand.caron(a)ensisun.imag.fr Wed Oct 21 07:00:53 1998 >>Received: from ensisun.imag.fr (ensisun.imag.fr [195.221.228.2]) >> by imag.imag.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA15712 >> for <aszolnoki(a)hotmail.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:00:33 +0200 (MET DST) >>From: bertrand.caron(a)ensisun.imag.fr >>Received: from ensisun.imag.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) >> by ensisun.imag.fr (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA27515 >> for <aszolnoki(a)hotmail.com>; Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:57:50 +0200 (MET DST) >>Message-ID: <XFMail.981021155750.bertrand.caron(a)ensimag.imag.fr> >>X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on Solaris >>X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>In-Reply-To: <19981020114439.17732.qmail(a)hotmail.com> >>Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 15:57:50 +0200 (MET DST) >>Sender: bcaron(a)ensisun.imag.fr >>To: Andras Zalan Szolnoki <aszolnoki(a)hotmail.com> >>Subject: Re: I am interested + Thanks >> >> ok i received everything today, >>is the paper on which you wrote thank you important(there is something >on the >>back in norvegian(i suppose) but i don't anderstand... >>On 20-Oct-98 Andras Zalan Szolnoki wrote: >>> Bon jour! >>> I sent you a blank tape (90min) , on which you can put what ever nice >>> musique you want , in addition to the session , and of course if you >>> have the time/possibilities. I live In Norway , and in oslo to be >more >>> precise my address is : Hellerudgrenda 10 >>> 0672 oslo - Norway >>> thanks again !! >>> >>> p.s. I have already payed for the shipping/or flying I dunno which >back >>> as well , there is a piece of paper inside the envelope , but I dont >>> know how it works - I hope you do- >>> Ciao >>> >>>>From bcaron(a)enserg.fr Wed Oct 7 07:22:16 1998 >>>>Received: from enserg1.enserg.fr (enserg1.enserg.fr [192.93.176.90]) >>>> by enserg.enserg.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03830 >>>> for <aszolnoki(a)hotmail.com>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:16:01 +0200 >(DST) >>>>Received: from enserg.fr (6067@localhost [127.0.0.1]) >>>> by enserg1.enserg.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA20919 >>>> for <aszolnoki(a)hotmail.com>; Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:16:01 +0200 >>>>Sender: bcaron(a)enserg.fr >>>>Message-ID: <361B77A0.6C9B19D7(a)enserg.fr> >>>>Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1998 15:16:00 +0100 >>>>From: bertrand CARON <bcaron(a)enserg.fr> >>>>Organization: enserg >>>>X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.35 i686) >>>>MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>To: Andras Zalan Szolnoki <aszolnoki(a)hotmail.com> >>>>Subject: Re: I am interested >>>>References: <19981007101713.15416.qmail(a)hotmail.com> >>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>>>X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by >enserg.enserg.fr >>> id QAA03830 >>>> >>>>Andras Zalan Szolnoki wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi fellow listee!!! >>>>> >>>>> I AM interrested a copy , and I could send a tape as well (of >>> course!) >>>>> The thing is that I=B4m not quite sure where to send it too...... >>>>> >>>>> Ciao Szola >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________ >>>>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >>>> >>>>ok no problems >>>>where are you from? >>>>i can send it to you and you will rehembers me >>>>my address >>>>bertrand CARON 137, av de l'Eygala >>>>38700 CORENC >>>>FRANCE >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >>---------------------------------- >>E-Mail: bertrand.caron(a)ensimag.imag.fr >>Date: 21-Oct-98 >>Time: 15:55:58 >> >>This message was sent by XFMail >>---------------------------------- >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". 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Re: Sinister: DC & Ticketmaster/Arab Strap enquiry
by Jessica Wright 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

mick- i ordered tickets from ticketmaster too when they were taking a long time i called they said they aren't sent out until 10 days before the show no worries i'm sure you'll get them jess ------------------- "so come aboard, let's sing a lament- the world isn't round it's twisted and bent" TCS ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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RE: Sinister: review of the boston show
by John Johnston 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

I know where Joe's comming from (although I don't know where he's been) with some of his comments on the Boston show (although I don't want Stuart to ditch the others!!). I've seen B&S 4 times now and I love their concerts but when he says > Five minutes between each song talking amongst themselves so the show didn't build to any climax. I know how he feels. >It just ended completely abruptly. It just felt really >unsatisfying. I've been there as well mate. I'm not asking for millions of costume changes - laser shows - Stuart on some kind of trapeze flying outover the crowd but just a bit more rapport with the audience. I love the fact that the music is king but there is something more than the music at a concert else we could all just stay at home and listen to the records. But different strokes for different folks - look at Stein's reaction and absolutely fair enough. I thought the concert in Shepherds Bush was to use a technical term "Iffy Biffy" but I know others thought it was "magical". The great thing is we're ALL right. The band are going to make their music, do their performances and let us make our own minds up. I'd like to finish with some Smut to keep Peter amused and all you other dedicated followers of filth but apparently I'm far too pure. I did one of those purity tests which gauge how much crazy, sex/drug/booze fuelled shenanigans you have got up to. One guy scored 288. I scored 13 - the comment "You are too pure for the church". So I've got nothing that would titilate you. Keep on keepin' on John xx > -----Original Message----- > >But here it goes: > > > >The Geek Chic contingent was in full force. Security seemed to be > checking > >people's attire at the door. No one not dressed in Airwalks, corduroy > pants, > >t-shirts with cardigans and thick black-rimmed glasses and smoking > clove > >cigarettes was allowed into the auditorium. Truly a Smiths crowd if > I've > >ever seen one. The Alannis Morrissette concert was the same night as > well as > >game 4 of the Yankees game. Cool, artsy, effeminate guys (hey I'm one > so I > >can say that!) at B&S, Jocks/Frat boys at bars for the Yankees game > and just > >all-around lame-o's at the alannis show. Typically, the so-called > 'cool' > >station (WFNX)was in full force at the alannis show, playing alannis > all day > >on the radio while they still have NEVER played a B&S song. > > > >As for the show, it was good, not great. I love the band but they > really > >need to work on their stage presence. I don't think I've ever seen 9 > >musicians (yes 9!) be less dynamic in my life. > > > >Here's the point by point review with the playlist at the end: > > > >Morse auditorium is a lousy venue for concerts with poor acoustics, a > tiny > >stage and forced movie theater-like seating (which stops most people > from > >dancing or even standing up to enjoy the band). B&S should've played > a club > >instead but then I guess Alannis had Avalon covered now, didnt she? > > > >The band's song list wasn't the best. They skipped most of their > great > >material and played a lot of their weakest tunes along with two new > songs. > >(Do we really need to hear 'space boy dream' live?) > > > >The sound mix was a bit fucked up with the synth coming out twice as > loud as > >the rest of the instruments. > > > >The band seemed really disorganized, and spent more time talking to > each > >other between songs than they actually did playing songs. Also, half > the > >band members looked like they REALLY didnt want to be there (ie > Isabel who > >seemed to be having some sort of argument with the lead singer > between each > >song.) > > > >But the lead singer was AMAZING. He is truly great. He actually hit > those > >high notes he hits on the CD's (meaning his voice isnt doctored in > the > >studio like so many other artists.)If he got rid of the rest of the > band > >(and all the distractions they entailed)and just sang his songs by > himself > >with just his guitar, it would be perfect. He's that exceptional. And > seeing > >him live was worth all the letdowns from the other problems. > > > >Like the big sticking point. Virtually no talking to the audience. > (except > >during a great mock cover of 'more than a feeling' by Boston) Five > minutes > >between each song talking amongst themselves so the show didn't build > to any > >climax. They played for maybe an hour, maybe a little longer (though > again, > >half of that was spent talking amongst themselves) and then out of > the blue, > >they just walked off the stage. No warning. No "this is our last > song". And > >no encore. It just ended completely abruptly. It just felt really > unsatisfying. > > > >The opening act "Containe" was pretty weak. > > > >Doors were scheduled to open at 8pm but due to a long soundcheck by > B&S, > >doors didnt open til 8:45. When we got into the theater, Containe > were > >starting their soundcheck. The show started late which might explain > why B&S > >didnt play an encore? Maybe they had to end the show by a certain > time? > >Still, they should just get rid of the opening act and double the > length of > >their performance. > > > >Still, I do love them even if they suck live. (don't flame me) It's > just my > >expectations were so high. But seeing them live, I doubt they'll ever > be in > >the smiths or echo & bunnymen league. They just don't have the stage > >presence to make the leap to superstar status. (So I guess they'll > remain > >our little secret, which is fine by me anyway) > > > >Here's the playlist. 14 song set. They opened the show brilliantly. > (Which > >may have been cause for my letdown. They were so tight and excellent > for the > >first few songs that it was startling to see them just fall apart as > the > >show went on) > > > >This isn't the exact order but its reasonably close. > > > >They opened with "Simple things" from arab strap. Then "Beautiful" > from > >3.6.9. seconds. Then "is it wicked not to care?" from arab strap. > Then > >"Century of Fakers" from 3.6.9 seconds. Then some song I've never > heard > >before which sounded like it was about someone named Tony who sat in > the > >back of class and eventually became a transvestite. I think the lead > singer > >said it was a new song. Then the other guitarist who has the absolute > worst > >voice I've ever heard sang some new song he'd just written which was > >abysmal. Well, it would be okay if the lead singer with the gorgeous > voice > >sang it instead. Seriously, these people need to get a clue and let > the lead > >singer bask in the spotlight since he's the one we all came to see. > (Isabel > >lost all her appeal to me after the way she acted on stage). But > that new > >song by the guy with the lousy voice just took the wind out of the > >performance and the show derailed from there. My friends and I were > trying > >to guess what the lead singer and isabel were arguing about. or more > >precisely, what he seemed to be apologizing to her for while she > sulked. We > >decided maybe she was jealous that he sang backup too loud on 'is it > wicked > >not to care'. Or maybe that the crowd seemed to be applauding for him > and > >not her. > > > >ANYWAY.... > > > >Then they played Sleep the clock around, seeing other people, like > dylan in > >the movies, space boy dream, get me away from here I'm dying, boy > with the > >arab strap, judy and the dream of horses and then closed with 'the > boy done > >wrong again'. (great closer, huh?) > > > >So they didnt play most of my favorite songs, like stars of track and > field, > >if youre feeling sinister, mayfly, ease your feet in the sea, summer > >wasting, dirty dream #2, chickfactor, brilliant career, put the book > back on > >the shelf, etc, etc. > > > >thats it. I'm sure I pissed some people off by coming off too harsh. > Like I > >said, it was great to see them live, it just wasnt a great show. > > > >Joe > > > > > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To > unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list > rules, > > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" > +-+ > >+-------------------------------------------------------------------- > --+ > > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: Tigermilk mint cond. album 4 sale
by Kristian Drew 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

Hello everyone I am a new subscriber. I know you guys don't appreciate commercial selling stuff but I have a Tigermilk vinyl mint condition album which I'd like to sell and I was wondering if any of you have any suggestions as to where I should be going for offers. Funny, I thought this place may be as good as any to start. So if any of you are inerested, please contact me. Thanks. Kristian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: review of the boston show
by Joe 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

Hey all, You'll have to excuse me because even though I'm a huge B&S fan, I still don't know who is who in the band, like the lead singer's name, for example. But here it goes: The Geek Chic contingent was in full force. Security seemed to be checking people's attire at the door. No one not dressed in Airwalks, corduroy pants, t-shirts with cardigans and thick black-rimmed glasses and smoking clove cigarettes was allowed into the auditorium. Truly a Smiths crowd if I've ever seen one. The Alannis Morrissette concert was the same night as well as game 4 of the Yankees game. Cool, artsy, effeminate guys (hey I'm one so I can say that!) at B&S, Jocks/Frat boys at bars for the Yankees game and just all-around lame-o's at the alannis show. Typically, the so-called 'cool' station (WFNX)was in full force at the alannis show, playing alannis all day on the radio while they still have NEVER played a B&S song. As for the show, it was good, not great. I love the band but they really need to work on their stage presence. I don't think I've ever seen 9 musicians (yes 9!) be less dynamic in my life. Here's the point by point review with the playlist at the end: Morse auditorium is a lousy venue for concerts with poor acoustics, a tiny stage and forced movie theater-like seating (which stops most people from dancing or even standing up to enjoy the band). B&S should've played a club instead but then I guess Alannis had Avalon covered now, didnt she? The band's song list wasn't the best. They skipped most of their great material and played a lot of their weakest tunes along with two new songs. (Do we really need to hear 'space boy dream' live?) The sound mix was a bit fucked up with the synth coming out twice as loud as the rest of the instruments. The band seemed really disorganized, and spent more time talking to each other between songs than they actually did playing songs. Also, half the band members looked like they REALLY didnt want to be there (ie Isabel who seemed to be having some sort of argument with the lead singer between each song.) But the lead singer was AMAZING. He is truly great. He actually hit those high notes he hits on the CD's (meaning his voice isnt doctored in the studio like so many other artists.)If he got rid of the rest of the band (and all the distractions they entailed)and just sang his songs by himself with just his guitar, it would be perfect. He's that exceptional. And seeing him live was worth all the letdowns from the other problems. Like the big sticking point. Virtually no talking to the audience. (except during a great mock cover of 'more than a feeling' by Boston) Five minutes between each song talking amongst themselves so the show didn't build to any climax. They played for maybe an hour, maybe a little longer (though again, half of that was spent talking amongst themselves) and then out of the blue, they just walked off the stage. No warning. No "this is our last song". And no encore. It just ended completely abruptly. It just felt really unsatisfying. The opening act "Containe" was pretty weak. Doors were scheduled to open at 8pm but due to a long soundcheck by B&S, doors didnt open til 8:45. When we got into the theater, Containe were starting their soundcheck. The show started late which might explain why B&S didnt play an encore? Maybe they had to end the show by a certain time? Still, they should just get rid of the opening act and double the length of their performance. Still, I do love them even if they suck live. (don't flame me) It's just my expectations were so high. But seeing them live, I doubt they'll ever be in the smiths or echo & bunnymen league. They just don't have the stage presence to make the leap to superstar status. (So I guess they'll remain our little secret, which is fine by me anyway) Here's the playlist. 14 song set. They opened the show brilliantly. (Which may have been cause for my letdown. They were so tight and excellent for the first few songs that it was startling to see them just fall apart as the show went on) This isn't the exact order but its reasonably close. They opened with "Simple things" from arab strap. Then "Beautiful" from 3.6.9. seconds. Then "is it wicked not to care?" from arab strap. Then "Century of Fakers" from 3.6.9 seconds. Then some song I've never heard before which sounded like it was about someone named Tony who sat in the back of class and eventually became a transvestite. I think the lead singer said it was a new song. Then the other guitarist who has the absolute worst voice I've ever heard sang some new song he'd just written which was abysmal. Well, it would be okay if the lead singer with the gorgeous voice sang it instead. Seriously, these people need to get a clue and let the lead singer bask in the spotlight since he's the one we all came to see. (Isabel lost all her appeal to me after the way she acted on stage). But that new song by the guy with the lousy voice just took the wind out of the performance and the show derailed from there. My friends and I were trying to guess what the lead singer and isabel were arguing about. or more precisely, what he seemed to be apologizing to her for while she sulked. We decided maybe she was jealous that he sang backup too loud on 'is it wicked not to care'. Or maybe that the crowd seemed to be applauding for him and not her. ANYWAY.... Then they played Sleep the clock around, seeing other people, like dylan in the movies, space boy dream, get me away from here I'm dying, boy with the arab strap, judy and the dream of horses and then closed with 'the boy done wrong again'. (great closer, huh?) So they didnt play most of my favorite songs, like stars of track and field, if youre feeling sinister, mayfly, ease your feet in the sea, summer wasting, dirty dream #2, chickfactor, brilliant career, put the book back on the shelf, etc, etc. thats it. I'm sure I pissed some people off by coming off too harsh. Like I said, it was great to see them live, it just wasnt a great show. Joe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: Getting down to it - but not with a B&S soundtrack
by Neil Dewhurst 23 Oct '98

23 Oct '98

Kevan says >Someone, probably someone called Jessica, suggested getting down to some >low down dirty sweaty squelchy stuff to a soundtrack of Belle and Sebastian. >Surely the only music appropriate for such things is a smattering of Isaac >Hayes (for preliminary smoochiness) followed by the William Tell overture. > Then Michael wrote... No, no, no, no. THE lurve makin' soundtrack has to be Lets Get It On, by Marvin Gaye. The ladies dig it. The most. And rather than the WTO can I suggest the Ode to Joy part from Bette's 9th followed by the ending of the 1812 Overture (big thrust at every cannon). Ok, its a bit of nuisance getting up to change the CDs (especially between Ode and 1812), but the overall effect is definitely worth it. Possibly. After months of careful persuasion I finally persuaded my girlfiriend to listen to Moon Safari, by Air. After listening to it for ten minutes or so, in her usual sensitive vein she cried out - "it's a shag album. It's nothing but a shag album." At first I was offended that she took this outrageously promiscuous viewpoint, but as the album moved on she proved her theory to be a very good one, so I had a smoke and wondered if I had the energy to get up and press the repeat button. I have found in my past that the worst music to listen to whilst engaging in even mild jiggy-jiggy is anything you love. Maybe it's just me, or maybe it was my companion at the time, but it's just so distracting. The only upside is that you can maybe work out the chords while you're listening, or invent backing vocal harmonies. Ah, the romance. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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