November 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: solitary man
by aaron tieger 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

My friend Andrew had an insight a few years ago on this topic. He said: What does it mean if I hate people but I don't feel better when they're not around? Indeed. === atieger(a)rocketmail.com auger/anvil I go, you stay-- two autumns. _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: "She and me"
by M R McDonald 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

> >>Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. You can use them in the same sentence ("She gave me the book."), just not as the "she and me" combination together. > An easy way to work it out is to leave out one of the people you're > mentioning. You can't say something like "Stuart Murdoch gives she and > me > palpitations" because if you leave out the 'me' you get "Stuart > Murdoch > gives she palpitations" which is wrong. It should be 'her' and not > 'she'. > That's why I don't think you can have "she and me" in a sentence - > it's > grammatically incorrect because the two words are incompatible being > in > different declensions (if that's the right word). I think it might be > to do > with one being passive and the other active, but I'm not sure. "She" is the subject of the verb and "me" would be the object of the verb. > > > Incidentally, you can use the same trick to work out whether you > should be > saying "you and I" or "you and me". But for the same reason you can > only > say "he and I" or "him and me". You can't say "he and me". The best I can do to use "she and me" in the same sentence is, of course, still grammatically _wrong_. Here goes: "She and me, whom she despises, went to the park together." You get the "She" (subject) associated with "me, whom" (object,) so it might sound odd to say "She and I, whom she despises ....", since the association of "I" and "whom" could seem strange. It's still _wrong_, though. OK, next! mars(a)pe.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: yumm... grammar
by Bluvelour＠aol.com 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

okay, so because i have lots of stuff to do and i don't want to do it, i'm going to share the beauty of who and whom with everyone (everyone, that is, who doesn't balk at the subject of the e-mail). so this is how one does it: if, in a sentence, you can put in "him" in the place you mean to put in "who" or "whom", put in "whom". here's an example: she wondered ____ the cardigan belonged to. so switch the sentence around so the blank space is nearer to what it's modifying: the cardigan belonged to ____. you can fill in "him" where that blank spot is, so you can therefore use "whom". got it? it also helps to remember that "whom" always follows a prepositional phrase. yeah, yeah, yeah. off i go ...the grammar police... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Lady P and Fluffy S, sitting in a tree
by Mark Casarotto 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

The Fluffy one has, not for the first time, inspired me to write a wee note to you all, even though I did have a little lyrical nibble this morning... Firstly, important stuff - the Monday poem (all two verses of it) was by Walt Whitman, which I don't think I said yesterday, and it's a smasher. Check it out, groovers. Secondly...Sarah said: "this is pretty 'provincial' Preston, god knows what inner-city BIIIG cities are like. It's all the back streets half the casuals, kids who are so bored out oftheir minds you got fuck all to do." I've never been as frightened and uncomfortable in any town or city as I was wandering around downtown Newton Abbot, in the mixed blessing that is sunny Devon, at night. For exactly the reasons the girl wot 11 people fancy said. But London, bless its gemutlich little behind, has far less of this problem simply because there are so many more things to do and more places to go. Perhaps I don't really know what the inner cities are like, these mythically violent council estates like the Cockcroft in TV's "The Bill" not being places I have any reason to visit. But for the fear factor, "provincial" towns full of fucked off youths with no future take some beating. I'm finally going to Scotland! Me and Vicky'll be heading up for three days of celtic bliss in Glasgow and Edinburgh, so maybe I'll see some of you around... Big kisses, as I'm in a good mood - Lady P's making us dinner, and he's a smashing chef - you simply *must* taste his puttanesca... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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None
by r. h. 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

wow, 93 post later and here i am. i think i actually fully read about all of 5 posts. what's up sinister? is it just me or does everyone all of a sudden feel they have to post 10 times a day. i'll back my boy up in what he said and pjmiller. slow down people the list aint going nowhere. (but of course here i am posting about it so is that kinda a contradiction?) it's become a game with me to hit the delete key first then see how much of meaningless, or non amusing post i can read before the computer eats it up. sad. i know i don't have to be here, but i do enjoy reading what quite a few of you have to say. i have nothing more to say i guess(except i do like all of you and hope to get in yer pants one by one) robbie please send hate mail personaly, don't make honey hate me for bringing it up with 1000 replys. on my c.d. player: a wet sock named "loneliness" ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: not-so-secret satan exchange--xmas tape exchange
by Jim Schmidt 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

just a brief footnote as people have started to respond: 1) the tape can have whatever kind of music/sounds/recordings you wish to send...you may include b&s material...use your creativity... 2) remember to let me know if you are willing to send to other countries or if you'd rather remain domestic 3) in regards to what do you like, it doesn't just have to be musical tastes (because the person who's sending your gift tape will be providing that, so to speak), but something that you really dig--from dogs to dentists to sports deodorants to johnny depp...whatever. just something for the person making your tape to help them customize it just for you. remember, please get back to me by november 30th. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: mullet watch
by Candyfuzz＠aol.com 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

err.... why all of the mullet talk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: have some more stuffing
by Anastasia Signoretta 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

hullo kiddies, well i thought i'd post a little tidbit of nothingness before jaunting off for my (yippee!!) four-day thanksgiving holiday. to the brits and other non-americans on the list: i feel very sorry for you that your respective home countries do not celebrate a thanksgiving of any kind. or maybe they do and i'm just incredibly culturally unaware. in any case, american thanksgiving is a really lovely holiday, happy turkey day to all american sinisterines. so do i have anything of worth to say? no. er, the list has been up to weirdness lately (this jessica/ahren thing? mullets? wot's this?) and not much of it interests me unfortunately. but something i *did* notice...there is another 'anastasia' on this list! how can that be? we're not totally the same...the 'new' one spells our name differently. but still...i feel like less of an individual, i'm going to go weep into my hazelnut coffee now. anyhow...the poetry parrots sits on my shoulder, saying everything when i talk. cheers mark...i'm watching out for p!o!o!. come monday i will gift you all with something moving and splendifirous...say prayers over the weekend that i don't consult my copy of jewel's best-selling poetry collection 'a night without armor.' (by the way, i didn't appreciate all the corrs bashing in the irish bands thread. i work for them and they are really lovely people!) and i think i know who i'm passing the parrot to for the week following, so be on the lookout for exotic things flying overhead... nothing much else to report (no b&s content, shame on me!) except that the 'velvet goldmine' soundtrack is ACE. (my non-twee moment, i don't think many of you know i'm really a glitter glam rock queen...i like all different kinds of music too, funny that!) oh, and that i'm going to get to drink champagne now in the middle of the day at work, for some celebration of some sort. wa-hey. and new york city listees, come to tiswas this saturday! come see me dance drunkenly to 'the boy with the arab strap!' it's a sight to behold, really. all right, enough of that. cheerstabyenowluv. stasia ------------- Original Text >From "Heather Marie Propes" <asbuch(a)midway.uchicago.edu>, on 11/25/98 12:06 PM: unfortunately, both Frida and Agnetha from ABBA sport mullets on the back of ABBA Gold. :( http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch(a)midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". 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Sinister: The Unofficial Biography Part Three
by Kevan Cooke 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

I bet you thought I'd forgotten didn't you? No such luck. Sorry folks, but here it is, a quick summary of what happened in the third part of "Belle and Sebastian - The Unofficial Biography" on Channel Four last night. One of the high points was Aidan Moffat throwing a fit and walking out of Arab Strap's Japanese tour when his pre-show avocados failed to appear. Meanwhile Belle and Sebastian played a gig in Glasgow and a load of record company people descended on them. Amongst these was Seymour Stein who told Stuart that he wanted the songwriter and the two birds, but get rid of the rock'n'roll drummer and the one who smells of wee. This left Stuart with a bit of a moral dilemma, and we have to wait until next week to find out what happens, but I think that the diminutive Aussie lass in the background of the final shot had caught Stuart's eye, so maybe all is not lost. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Stats Poll Masochism
by GaoBest＠aol.com 25 Nov '98

25 Nov '98

Hey kids Here's a poll I wnat to conduct, but it is IMPERATIVE you respond to me directly, and NOT to the list - and I promise to report the results to Sinister as soon as possible. Deadline for Poll Response: Friday, December 4, 1998 (regardless of your time zone!) - anytime before the end of that day. Simple 'nuf. Respond to: GaoBest(a)aol.com and PLEASE use the words "poll" somewhere in yoru answer so that I'll know... I do delete a lot of mail that looks like it may be spam-related, even if it does mean that I'll miss out on some important messages from time to time. Note: if you reply to the list and not to me directly, then your poll response will go unnoted. I need to be fair about this because there have been a lot of posts about high-list-traffic, so I'd like to avoid contributing too much to that traffic. I'm not crazy about traffic jams either. Poll: 1. If you own an official non-bootleg version of Tigermilk album (I assume it's a vinyl-only release, but if it's on CD as well then please specify), then how much did you pay for it? Did you buy it within 3 months of its release (ie, probably at a fair-market price), or did you buy it much later (ie, probably at a higher premium price)? 3. If you do not own an official Tigermilk but would pay for it, how much would you pay? Seriously - how much? Don't worry, it's not like anyone is going to hold you to it. But I'd appreciate as close an answer as possible. This is my attempts of using my statistical skills developed in classes in 1991 and 1993, and don't worry, I don't plan to use the information to broker sales or transactions for Tigermilk. I am just curious to know what people on this list would pay for Tigermilk if they really wanted it. I'm also curious to know if people on this list would even do a poll as inane as this one is :-) Results to be posted would include the median, average, and range for money spent, money fantasizing to be spent, and timing. If I can think of other stats then I'll post them as well. If someone already did a poll like this last month then please let me know - I just joined the list about 2 weeks ago after spending 8 months speculating about whether or not to join :-) thanks again. xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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