December 1998 - Sinister

Sinister: Music for Victoria Avalon
by Richard Lander 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

The clock has ticked round to 22.45 according to the BBC World Service. Firstly let me say a very heartfelt thank you for all the expressions of congratulations and best wishes that I have received. It has really restored my faith in this list after all the troubles over the last few weeks here. It has to be 'Fox in the snow' and on the whole you agree. Kirk we will play her 'Youre Just a Baby' too. The Field Mice idea I like as well especially we have just got their compilation from Parasol Records. SE. She is a winter baby you are quite right, although not wintry here. Strangely enough we live in Hong Kong, China as some long time subscribers know. I will mail you privately later. Damn. Its raining here so I will have to take an umbrella when I walk to the ferry. Thanks to all of you once again. Richard

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Sinister: happy fluffy bunnies scurrying in the field
by mkl206＠is8.nyu.edu 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

today has been somewhat busy, as have the days before it. tomorrow i get on the plane for moscow, flying to visit my family something like santa claus, as my relatives have laden me with gifts for others that displace my clothing a bit. but i'll get to see realminky tomorrow (please refer to the mummy page, off the picture page) and sleep for long amounts of time and read and be lazy and whatnot. which i haven't really had a chance to do properly in a little while. i've been out all morning and afternoon, shopping and looking at stores and picking up my visa and whatnot. i went to fao schwartz and saw the giant furby, rach and beth can both drool over that one for a bit. ;) uptown it's nice, people seem nicer and busy and bustling around and there are lovely decorations everywhere. downtown, we're too cool for that nonesense, or something liek that cause it's fairly bare, except for those horrible santas that wiggle their little animatronic butts. they disturb me, what sort of message is taht supposed to give to children? a bad one i can only assume. sigh. anyway, there is no particular point. this list is about discussing a band we love. everyone likes different songs best or whatnot, it's interesting but doesn't really mark some sort of international conspiracy or anything. it just means that the sort of person who uses the voting booth is more likely to be the sort of person who likes whatever song is #1 right now best. and it's been one of many things, so i shouldn't worry about it too much. and for a newcomer, mr. phil "philly" is pretty much right on. it's for talking about the band, and our lives when the two intertwine in some ways. most people who write write with humor, sometimes with naivite, sometimes with b.o. (though luckily we're unaware of those) and most often with their heart held out to us in some way shape or form, basically asking to be accepted. we used to do that unconditionally, before fly-by-nights began coming in and basically insulting the makeup of the list before running back to wherever they came from. so i guess what i'm saying is that there are some new people who are sweet and docile and lovely, please don't feel hurt if we don't adore you immediately, it takes time to fall in love. and older list people will begin to notice your wit and sweetness, but remember that we've had some disappointments in the past. and just because a lot of us have met in real life doesn't mean that we're a clique, or that we don't want to meet you. i'm sorry if i'm speaking for too many people, i should only be speaking for myself. i just want happy bunnies to hum happy bunny tunes. in fact, doesn't all the dissent stem from the loss of the beloved sig line? paul, make it come back, make it come back!!!! xoxoxoxoxo (shivery hugs and ice kisses) megan mkl206(a)is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: top words
by Declan McGurk 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

so has anyone got any top words. y'know just, like, ace words that you can impress people with. (this was instigated by someone saying they loved a word and i cant remember it so this request is in vain hope that they might use it again) (and because some words are actually sorted). and, right, i suggest we all go and do our votes again on the jeepster page for the best and worst songs. and do our voting a little less generous ie for songs we do intensely hate give a 1 or 2 not a six or somet eg spaceboy dream = 1. please. it might sort this debate for once and for all.EVERYBODY GO DO YOUR VOTES AGAIN OK?! love you all, Dec

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Sinister: set list nyc 11/1/98
by Babywitch7＠aol.com 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

does anyone have the set list from the nv 1 1998 show at the supper club in new york city? i have been looking for it and have had no luck. i was at the show, and a friend asked for the set list, but i couldnt remember it. thank you much. love kmg +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: chickfactor and elvis
by Patrick Osborne 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

This is my first posting to the list...I just thought I would join in the debate about the above two songs! Chickfactor: I think this is a great song, especially the lines "what's the worst job you've had?/what do you read?/what's driving you mad?", it's all those sort of questions that run through your mind when you're looking at the person you love and wanting to shake them to try and get inside their head somehow. Century of Elvis: This would have to be one of my least favourite B&S songs. I find it really precious, in particular the part about thinking his dad was Elvis and then saying "I haven't told my dad, either". That line always makes me cringe! Well, that was My Two Cents, for what it's worth! :-) Patrick +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Re: Sinister: Deception
by Snowinsumr＠aol.com 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

At 98-12-18 13:39:10 EST Peter Wrote... >>Does anyone else fear that B & S is so good that something must be wrong?<< i couldn't have put it better myself...when i found the smiths i thought that the world could end in the nighttime or the daytime and it wouldn't matter because of the passion and the poetry they filled every waking moment with...and then these little sweethearts called belle and sebastian come along and steal every minute of attention from their older siblings (the smiths) like a newborn child or a kitten...i can't get them out of my cd player...i am vainly trying to find a copy of TigerMilk so my collection will be complete...they are corrupting my thought process in the best way possible! all i want to do is stay home everyday and analyze the brilliantly clever lyrics and read the little stories they write... megan elise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Deception
by Peter Greenspan 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

I bought "Sinister" about four weeks ago on a tip from a friend...I had never heard a word about this band before. Now I own everything that B & S has put out (I think). I played these for my roommate and we have come to the conclusion that this band is too good to be true. It's almost deceptive. Every song seems to be radically creative and brilliant (even songs like "Get Me Away From Here" which relies exclusively on a chord progression which has been used a thousand times.) There seems to be something so right about the chemistry, voice, melody, lyrics... Does anyone else fear that B & S is so good that something must be wrong? I don't mean this message as a joke..I'm serious. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Oh Dear
by Gary Done 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

Hi all, Now I simply refuse to believe that I'm the only one to have spotted this. I can't believe I've not noticed before. Has anyone else noticed the startling similarity between the track The Boy With the Arab Strap and that pop classic, Son of my Father by Chickory Tip ?. I can't be the only one surely, Sister Disco you must have spotted it, weren't you a roadie for the Tip briefly ?. Byesy Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: The Gate - Cool Guitar Boy/Isobel - Amelia
by John 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

Anyone else noticed any similarities between "The Gate" and Heavenly's "Cool Guitar Boy" or i'm just being a hallucinating and too obsessed Heavenly fan? I didnt agree with this at first, when John Monroe(from Milwaukee, but of course..) brought it up(in the sinister chatroom) but after following his advise(i.e. playing the two songs back to back) the resemblance became clear to me. So, except their appearance which Lesley Jo mentioned, here's another similarity between Isobel and Amelia Fletcher, the way they sing(although Is it Wicked Not to Care? does not sound at all Amelia-esque) By the way, if anyone's interested, Marine Research are playing tonight on 10 pm, at the Dublin Castle, Camden Town(london apparently..) John +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The coolest site for free home pages, email, chat, e-cards, movie info.. | | http://www.goplay.com - it's time to Go Play! | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: I like my Belle and Sebastian just the way they are, thank you.
by Philly1013＠aol.com 18 Dec '98

18 Dec '98

Dear List, Hmmm...I'm not sure where to begin. I guess the requisite "I hate the whole indie/major debate" could do, but it doesn't seem sufficient. Well, what's wrong with Belle and Sebastian, really? I can't find much to gripe about. I can't find much fault with Jeepster either, but I can't say I spend much time thinking about proper marketing strategies, record sales, or how to have Belle and Sebastian take over the world, for I hardly think myself worthy of any such matters. Sure, if they toured more extensively I probably wouldn't have had to travel several hundred miles from Montreal to Toronto only to have the show canceled (with good reason of course) on me. But that didn't bother me, I still had a lovely weekend away from the petty annoyances of being a University student. Would Belle and Sebastian be a chart topper if things were different? Possibly, but I doubt we'd have a lovely song like "the Gate" available to us. Yes, the song is exactly the sort of thing that would be pruned out for an extra buck or two, and yet if such were the case I'd be robbed of the song that's just about made my week of utter boredom (Which isn't to say that any of the other songs one the new EP aren't in their own rights fabulous, but "the Gate" just happened to be what I needed. Ask me my opinion in a month, a week, or tomorrow, and I could tell you differently). I have to say all this fuss over what Belle and Sebastian could or should be seems silly. Perhaps my take on this list is premature, but I thought the function was to serve to discuss what Belle and Sebastian are and mean to us. While it's fun to speculate and play let's-dress-up-as-a-record-executive, I can't help but think there are better to things to do with your time, like listening to one your copy of If You're Feeling Sinister again and remembering why you started to care in the first place for example. Oh, and for whoever it was who thought that music IS objective, needs to remember that there's a great difference between insight and incite. While acting out our polemic fantasies where people actually care to take such things seriously gets some people going, why don't we just leave people be in their own subjective worlds. I'll listen to what I like, you listen to what you do, and we'll leave the "objective" criticism to the bizarre group of ladies and gentlemen known as rock critics. As a new member to the list, I may be out of place saying what I just have, but I just felt I should say something. Thanks for listening, Phil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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