December 1998 - Sinister

RE: Sinister: Hefnerlump Rock Report
by Sandra Duric 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

From: PJMiller [SMTP:pjmiller@arrakis.es] As for the other groups, Cuba were absolute total and utter guff, a kind of Jesus Jones for the 21st Century, only without the charm, subtelty and nuance that so typified that groundbreaking fusion of rock and dance sensibilities. Quite frankly, Cuba are a disgrace to their name, totally unlike the fantastic tropical island where people sniff their armpits and have a wank at the same time. Sorry, but this little comment made me laugh a good minute. I agree, but I've never been able to say anything about it because fellow Canadian Chris in Cuba I know, and the unspoken rule of friends being friends, you don't slam each other's music (do you realize if friends were a bit more ... honest, there'd be less shite bands?). And the Cuba story is typical who-knows-who - Chris is married to Mojave Rachel and he and a friend were just fooling with their keyboards at home when someone from the label popped by to see her, only to be into the entire Cuba thing, enough to sign them. And so the story goes... Saw Gus Van Sant's Pyscho this weekend. Erm, thumbs up to the original. Disappointing, very disappointing... Back to work and watching snow clouds build a grey-white mountain on the horizon... Alexandra PS - Second batch of Black Sessions tapes going out today.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: this is just a (post)modern rock song
by Archel 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

darling list, things which made this young girl sigh on receipt of TIJAMRS ce matin: 1/ stuart sings 'lucid when i'm writing songs' not ..'riding buses' :( 2/ no twiddly vocal on 'feeling strange' or 'rock and roll' :( so i prefer the session version definitely. BUT things which made me smile: 1/ "interminable 3 chord break" written in the sleeve notes 2/ isobel's vocal on "The Gate" proving her worthy once and for all of lesley jo's (and everyone else's) adoration (though the tune itself is not so hot) 3/ the whole of "slow graffiti" - oscar wilde reference, right? 4/ getting the Cd in the post in the first place. B&S over breakfast on a monday morning! what could be better? something that grabbed me the other day: heather's post about the earthquake. what if it actually WAS wild horses galloping both above and below your house? how cool would that be? much more exciting than a mere earth tremor i think. sorry, "i'll admit i'm feeling strange". for the record, i went fully clothed as cathy from wuthering heights to the fancy dress party - how dare you think i was being suggestive, any of you? (especially mark 'rude boy' casarotto). :) smileys, archel "Watching friends playing in the dirt Feeling hard but feeling hurt" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101(a)york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Interminable 3 sausage breakfast
by Robin Stout 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

Hooray! I've got This Is Just A Modern Rock Song and it is ace! I don't think The Gate is half bad either. Maybe that's just because I was expecting it to be awful. And, oooh, has it got a banjo in it? I love all 7 minutes of TIJAMRS, especially the lovely harmony at the end that makes me wish the song was even longer. It's nice to have your expectations satisfied. No story on the sleeve, mind, but the "interminable 3 chord break" is there instead. So I think the EP is lovely. But not as lovely as the delectable Arantxa who tastes of lollipops. Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Vive la Bagatelle! NBSC
by PJMiller 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

David Moore wrote: I do have three offspring, but when the eldest is 20 its hard to think of them as children. More often than not, I think of them as my mates. If I ever have children I shall think of them as slave labour, thrash them accordingly, and feed them to the local chimney sweeps. Gary, can we have the Ted Moult one next? Susannah said: Did you know that channel 4 are to screen a documentary on bestiality? Set your videos. It's funny you should mention that, because just look what I found! Perhaps this could be the inaugural waddling of the Pervy Pop Penguin, just like the Poetry Parrot only a bit pervy? A HORRIBLE CASE OF BESTIALITY There was a youth whose name was Stuart Murdoch...He was this year detected of buggery, and indicted for the same, with a mare, a cow, two goats, five sheep, two calves and a turkey. Horrible it is to mention, but the truth of the history requires it. He was first discovered by one Isobel Campbell, who accidentally saw his lewd practice towards the mare. (I forebear particulars.) Being upon it examined and committed, in the end he not only confessed the fact with that beast at that time, but sundry times before and at several times with all the forenamed in his indictment.....And whereas some of the sheep could not so well be known by his description of them, others with them were brought before him and he declared which were they and which were not. And accordingly he was cast by the jury and condemned, and after executed about the 8th of september, 1642. A very sad spectacle it was. by William Bradford, 1642 Shocking stuff, eh? Could it be that our own Stuart Murdoch is the pop reincarnation of this wicked fellow? I think so. Examine his genitals immediately, Doctor Baxter! Any sign of goat poo in his pubes? Hmmm. Is the new EP out today? Don't forget to ask your local stockist how many copies they've ordered! Of such stuff fine mailing lists are formed. I am about to attempt something breathtaking and daring, not unlike the collaboration between Russians and Americans on the troubled MIR space station. I am going to contribute to a thread that I noticed over on the fabled Shalala list. Our twee chums were discussing the demise of Creation Records, a topic that inspired Shalalalanians to impressively lengthy ponderings last month. Here is my own grain of sand, which may or may not have been covered without me noticing: About the time when Creation were bought by Sony, there wasa business programme on the telly that was devoted to the music industry for one week only. They investigated the M People phenomenon and some other stuff, including Creation. Alan McGee said fairly clearly that Creation was going to be a load of shite from then on, or at least he said the Sony influence would probably change their way of working. Also, after the success of Nirvana, there were seminars and stuff about marketing music after Nirvana, and I suspect that Creation people were jotting everything down in their notebooks to use it all on Oasis. None of the above of accounts for Slowdive and Ride and all that lot though, so it's probably all rubbish. I just wanted to get an idea of what it's like to be on Shalala. I look forward to the updating of the archives, a whole month of pop gumdrops in one sitting! Chuck D should wash his mouth out with soap and water. I thought that when he got mad he put it down on a pad and gave us something that we never had. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: SiniStereo: where is my UK dictionary when I need it?
by The boy done wrong again 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

-----O.K.--------------- this just in from a boy trying to forget about the paper that was due last friday and then maybe slated for completion today but probably being put aside to write email here in unseasonably warm Indiana-- after much of this debate about the "twee"ness of B&S I searched out a Scottish woman in my building for clarification on this Twee thing...and she was lost...that's what you get for being a woodwind player in music school in indiana but anyway.I really have been dying to know what this twee thing is...is it precious? precocious? precarious? ummmmmmmm... anyway....I suppose I should really get to that there paper now but also I guess I might join in with this top (insert # here) of 98 so without further ado.... 1. Will Oldham Black/Rich Music (A must) 2. Cat Power Moon Pix 3. B/S tbwtas 4. DJ Spooky Riddem Warfare 5. That creepy "Best of..." Morrissey album...O.K. they're all old songs but still, c'mon..... biggest dissapointment(S) 1. Pulp THis is Hardcore (next time lock him back up with the bottle and let him write the songs all in a weekend...worked for DC didn't it?) that's it. by the way, a wave to the person who had been boosting Niagra,Niagra...rented it tonight and was charmed... bye now. (47) P.S. for all you web types with a realAudio player try to find www.wfhb.com on yur browser...it is thi lokal radio station that is the only placeI have heard a full B/S song 'cept for on my own little headphones... boo-hoo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: ranting and raving and saying things.
by Jarkko Fr�ntil� 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

Ooh, another weekend wasted. When do I grow up? Probably never. Oh well... Oh man, this indie/pop/indiepop- conversation here too!! Can't I escape it ANYWHERE? Just had a discussion about that with my friends. Hated it. SSOOO stupid. They said I was poppy. Oh well, if I HAD to be something, well that then. But if I own three albums from Korn, some John Coltrane, some finnish tango-albums and HUGE loads of compilation vinyls from the 80's (Kylie, Belinda, Nik Kershaw, you know the lot) does that mean that I'm not poppy anymore? Or does that make me even more indie/schimdie??? AND ANOTHER THING (I'm on the roll now)!!!! Ok, My ex said that I live a "pop-lifestyle". What the hell is that? Ok, I go out about twice a week to see bands. And yes, those bands have guitars and drums and yes, you might dance to them. And YES, I do drink beer and YES I do indeed wear cardigans (wearing one right now) and black polo-shirts... But still. Isn't that just... well, normal? Hmm, sorry, I didn't mean to get so upset in front of you. Ok, quote of the day: "If you light the match quick enough, you can see the darkness flickering inside the flame." -ME, but I kinda borrowed that sentance from someone. Just altered it a bit. You know who said that? Competition is declared here. No prizes to be won, though. Listening to: this annoying humming sound that comes from the lamps here in the virtualroom in the Open University. I'm going bonkers. @--->--- A rose, love and other pretty things, jarkko. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Christine Nostlinger's books
by Arantxa Sanz 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

Hi! Vanessa has complained several times, as she is the only Ausrian apparently in the list, so this posting is especially addressed to her, as I guess not many UK/North American listees are into Christine Nostlinger . She is an Austrian writers whose books for kids are fantastic. I read lots of her stuff when I was a child and also during my teens, I used to exchange her books with my cousins and neighbours. 'Konrad' is my absolutely favourite.It is about a boy who is made in a factory , that's why he is perfect, he always tidies his bedroom in time, he loves to go to school every morning and never has lollipops or icecreams because it's unhealthy.In spite of all these big defects, he is a lovely person, but the other kids at school cannot share this point of view , and he has to change ...etc in order not to be resent to a proper family instead of the quite hectic but friendly lady who has become his adoptive mother mistakenly Try to read it some time , it's great! Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: st etienne in san francisco
by GaoBest＠aol.com 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

hey kids i'm just wondering if anyone's gonna see St Et in SF on thursday, or go to their mod lang autograph session. also, any idea as to when B&S are going to play in SF? just wondering. xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: Did Stu interview Lawrence Felt last March?
by Michael Korchia 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

Hi, some may think it's a bit late to ask this, but i remember that i read on this list, 10 months ago, that Stu would interview Lawrence. Did he? is the interview avalaible somewhere on the net? Thanks, __^o^__ Michael Korchia mkorchia(a)club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/aurore/emumbly.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+

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Sinister: beat patrol, thoughts on evolution of consciousness
by rebelstrange＠ldd.net 07 Dec '98

07 Dec '98

greetings, nothing witty to start out with..... iv'e just finished off my champagne and chinese food as my sickness seems to have disappeared, thank heaven. so i'm a bit out of it, but not that much. Firstly, the dapper and helpful weeJay has suggested to me RE the Isobel shrine, that such a structure would be lacking without the benefit of the isobel interview in the beat patrol recording. *sigh* would any sweet souls be willing to help me out, if not for charity and posterity, then for appropriate recompense?? just a thought. i've been probably too busy asking for things around here. but it's hard living in the Bible Belt. *whine, whine, whine* leave alone the nice fella who likes the gate, eh? let us enjoy our isobel in peace. we never bothered you all with your stinky "century of elvis" did we?? (Without intent to generalize!=) i just read the belle lettres the other day, and let me say i was touched beyond words. maybe it hit a little too close to home for me at this time. it was quite beautiful. like i said iw as touched beyond words, so not much to say. i'd like to thank MTV for showcasing a relentless pile of crap ska and industrial and joke-rock, and billing it as an alternative to mainstream crap. this provides me with endless amusement at other's expense. oh looky, another bunch of dork-wads with spiked hair and bug sunglasses and snowboards on their record covers, i can hardly wait for the wisdom this lot will surely spew. i think we should all go to 120 minutes page and deluge them with so many belle and sebastian requests that their server goes down. they had i noticed last week, a clip for is it wicked on the openeing page of 120 minutes section, i was quite shocked as i had never even been to that page before. i really need to put in my lousy 2 cents, that will surely make a difference against the million emails they get daily reading like so: "Hey Carson, you rock!! would you PLEEEEZE play the offspring's ""Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)" for me and my boyfriend Jaymes? he thinks those naked girls by the pool are SOOOO sexy!!!" well i supose it couldn't hurt to pretend to be a nice fuzzy sweater movement and request fuzzy music instead of, uh, well crap. as per youth movements i think someone said this in a way, but seems we have almost moved beyond the point of authentic singularity in groups as a trend--in the sense that everything has been recycled, we are only taking the basics planted before and moving them to the next level, as it were, amalgamating all prior knowledge and reforming it to suit the advancement of our consciousness. now we have fake movements like the current apparent revival of disco/electronic/sugary/single-phrase beyond-retro pop, like that music sounds better with you song. what is the deal with that anyway? dmitri from paris fits into there too, in my view. istn' belle and sebastian a bit of an appropriate denial of such, that masquerades as innovative, but is fundamentially empty. some things can't really be improved upon. sounds can be re-designed and mixed up, but without the emotion and substance behind it, it's only a stopping point on the road to someone who can utilize it within a larger context. fatboy slim maybe nice background noise, but who's gonna hear that and have a revelation of spirit??? enough of my silly opinions. (not!) i think we are a nice pseudo-movement. i dont know isn't that a bit of an indie 'trend' that of connecting more directly to the fans, grass roots so to speak? but that's a lot of DIY too from punk. punk was necessary to break out at that time, but punk is outdated now, the ethic has been interpolated into day-to-day so the extreme is obsolete. isn't it, really.... niceness is a kind of revolt now, away from the me me 80's, and away from the millenial furor and marilyn manson's supposed rebellion which is really as i stated, obsolete, we've had all that already, there is no more shocking thing to do than smile at your neighbor and ride buses quietly. it's a nice respite from those who claim we're gonna have to go MAD to move intothe next century, but we know don't we, there is going to be no paradigm shift a la PUNK extremes, 2001 comes and sad librarians will still be singing about their dogs on wheels, and i'll still be thinking of my photo jeny. all those who think it's going to explode are going to be crushed by their own predictions. we sit in our windows watching them go by, and turn back to drink some tea and toast the new era. there are better ways of evolving and i think we have got it all right. So who want's to blow up the Capitol building eh? eh? let's resurrect gg allin!!! cheers to all the luvverly kiddies who have got their placid boots on right. not docile, passively resistant. the best way to make a bully mad, is to ignore them and go on with your business. we'll show them ... jonathon richman, what the hell??? i have lost patience with the pseudo millenium. there is no such thing. well enough to have dirty dreams again, lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister(a)majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo(a)majordomo.net". 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